Post cool stuff about space.Pic related is the Andromeda Galaxy which, as you may know, is the largest galaxy in the Local Group (the Milky Way is the second largest).
>you will never travel to other galaxywhy live?
>>16480332Why say that? How hard is it to travel to another galaxy? What if we make retard light speed ships that can go faster than the speed of light? Is it possible?
>>16480474We'll just stumble over teleporter tech.It's a one way ticket to hell and skin-wearing deamons come back and report how nice it is.
>>16480474The speed of light is actually incredibly slow on a galactic scale. It would still take 2 million years to reach Andromeda
>>16480484Why can't we invent turbolight that just goes infinitely fast?
>>16480519Because special relativity is a thing and real life isn't a video game.
>>16480547Sounds like what a creatively bankrupt person would say when defending religious dogma
>>16480519someone need to invent warp machine or looking for wormhole
>>16480559Sure thing bud. Maybe >>>/x/ is more your board.
>>16480573>he said something i don't like so hes CRAZZZYYYyep typical /sci/tard
>>16480307all those galaxies, i refuse to believe we are the only living being in this universe
>>16480642Of course not, you're simply a very fortunate intelligent being made by our environment and will to survive whatever necessary. Earth is just a one of a kind planet, most planets are dead boring rocks. I know for a fact their are other planets like earth that can harbor smarter species.
>>16479797>Pic related is the Andromeda GalaxyBack to cool stuff...picrel is how large Andromeda would look if it had a similar magnitude to the Moon. The faintness of its light means you need a very dark night or binoculars to make it out.
I finally realized that star that kept appearing on the horizon outside the window of my house in the evening was not a star or an aircraft, but was in fact Venus. Earlier in the season I witnessed Saturn from the east during nightfall. I was extemely elated to know what seeing planets with a naked eye is like and that I can do so even with impaired vision and a polluted sky. It will never get old to me.Now I just wish I could get a telescope powerful enough to see the planets closer, before pointing it towards Vega, Arcturus, Polaris, and the other stars presently visible from this side of the northern hemisphere.
JWST found that we are insode a VOID brehs
>>16481608>Sagittarius Dwarfhuh, we are colliding soon?
>>16479797All of this stuff about space, our tiny planet, and the whole universe and I will never figure why we still cause pain and hatred to one or another. Maybe it's one of the universe expression of itself, or people have their own right and opinion to be disgusting, what is even disgusting? Some think disgusting is good and some don't even have an opinion about it. Feelings, Emotions and Empathy is becoming meaningless now, only the strong will win from now on.
>>16486583>TINY PLANEEET, WE ARE SO HECKIN SMALL >LIFE HAS NO MEANING MAKE IT URSELF FAGGOT>DID YOU KNOW HOW SMALL WE ARE SO INSIGNICANT LOWER UR EGO CHUD FAG
>>16486004because none of that actually matters in your day to day life. You still need to pay your taxes
>>16480657Correction most planets are chads that prevent the filth known as "life" from emerging.
>>16487191Npc answer just live life your own way without hurting others. Don't care about some made up "goverment" that proclaims that it owns the "land" that you live in.
The orion nebula looked absolutely brilliant yesterday. Really clear, never saw it so good. It was really cold so I guess that's why. Andromeda looked like shit though, but it was like 4am.
>>16487191I dont have a life, earth is fucking boring and im tired of my only reason being here is to reproduce work and die. I wanna explore, I wanna see new alien species, why is life boring, depressing and gay
>>16486004Most people don't have the capacity to simulate others' emotions accurately. They're just doing the patterns they learned which might come off as being a nice person but with different life circumstances they'd be a mean person.
>>16481624Part of our galaxy is actually called Sausage. It's the remains of a dwarf galaxy that merged with the Milky Way.
>>16480474 >>16480484It would literally not take even a second. You don't need FTL travel to explore galaxies. .99c is enough to take you anywhere you want, quick enough.
The photo in OPs image is a shop, there is no Andromeda Galaxy. There are 2.6 billion stars.
>>16487711What is this .99c? I smell bullshit, there's no way you can travel that fast without bypassing FTL
>>16481408That's pretty crazy considering it's a whole 2.5 million lightyears away
>>16486004>I will never figure why we still cause pain and hatred to one or anotherBecause living things have evolved to be highly competitive in order to survive. This means that today's living things are perfectly willing to inflict pain and use hatred if it increases the chances of their genes' survival.
>>16479797Can anyone explain to what subdwarf stars are? It's almost feels like some basedentist made them up to keep his job. Also will all the galaxies in the virgo cluster fuse eventually and create a bigger galaxy than the largest one we know of yet(ESO 383-76)? Also also what's the largest/most massive galaxy cluster(NOT supercluster) known?
>>16481530Wait until you can see nebulas and galaxies. Saturn and jupiter look great in a telescope too. Clusters are cool.
>>16479797And in just a few billion years is going to fucking crash into our own galaxy!How cool is that?
>>16487829Is that why racism, homophobia, transphobia and xenophobia will always exist? People hate others and make their lives hard so they can make theirs easier? Pretty lame imo
>>16481746How did they take this picture of the milky way though?
>>16480642Life is everywhere, we are just stuck in our perceptive mechanisms. Even our machines just enhance these mechanisms, but it won't necessarily reveal anything extraordinarily new, just a few hints.
>>16480519We are subdued by a will that keeps shit in check. Once we break past that limitation, anything is possible.
>>16488790Racism exists because people simply don’t like other races, who fucking cares not everyone thinks like that anyways, only insufferable boring people do. The homophobia and transphobia thing is the same, you’ll always will see assholes or bad people, people have the right to think or believe what they want no matter how retarded it is. The main issue is why people like you care or liberals in general? Just ignore and move on
>>16489539I see that you're one of those "it's turtles all the way down guys".
>>16488605Interesting graphic
>>16487711>.99c is enough to take you anywhere you want, quick enough.if you'd wanted to arrive to Andromeda today going with 1c you'd have to start 2,5mln years ago, aka the time there were Australopithecus were still around
>>16489539Just because one space photo turns out to be chorizo, it doesn't mean they're all chorizo
>>16490075Wrong
>>16489539>you've never studied optics at even an undergraduate levelStill waiting for you to debunk the previous one. Last time you ended up crying about the colormap, entirely grasping at straws because you know nothing about optics or these images.You are so full of shit.
>>16481723Nohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagittarius_Dwarf_Spheroidal_Galaxy
Our reality is so strange and wonderful. Great thread bros - I’ve enjoyed looking at these images.
Pic related is Polaris - the North Star
>>16489539>never studied optics at even an undergraduate levelYou're the faggot that thinks the photos of exoplanets are fake. You're fucking retarded.
>>16494650Can I go there? It looks cool, whats in it?
>>16479797space is an oval
All that space junk is a target!!!
>>16480642>all those galaxies How fake does it get?
>>16495395>fake>cant understand it so it must be fakeyour retard is showing, please go learn or something
>>16495591I don’t care? The evidence is clealy there, he can read and observe and not spout out “ITZZ FAKEZZ EVERYTHING FAKEZZ” like a tard and expect me to believe or respect him
Does anyone know where to find a full resolution panorama of the milk way from ESO?
Hope these pics are not AI generated
>>16496971I do astrophotography and it's pretty cool imaging this stuff from my backyard. It basically looks the same as Hubble, just without the insane resolution.
Nuclear in space:When I smashed numbers about Cobalt60 betavoltaic battery combined with xeon ion engine, I got out of solar system, getting pass Voyger and still accelerating, somebody competent , please, give it a try please.
>>16497246Dude science is fucked when it comes to space. There's a star out there with more Einsteinium than Iron and they've done ZERO follow ups on it since it's discovery in the 1970s.It's all about dark matter and dark energy. Dead ends
>>16497263They still didn't suspect high-energy mostly non-incteracting matter that stars emmmit in it's nuclear reaction, that basically holds physics together by the fact it has field that changes nuclear reactions elsewhere? Therefore physics is not exactly universal, an we got a little bit divergence across universe?For sure, their "dark" cause is suspicious.
>>16497269I was mostly pointing out that when they find a candidate for new Physics - mind you this is the only star we've seen do this - and a chance to explore a new method to achieve the next island of stability they put zero effort towards it.
>>16496971Don't worry they aren't. Here's a picture of Messier 51 that I took with my phone through my 8inch f/5 newtonian telescope. It's a 30 second exposure.It's the same galaxy as this Hubble image >>16496598
>>16497279Here's a screenshot of NCG 7331 I took with my 14" f/8 Meade ACF from my backyard.Are you photographing through an eyepiece or an actual camera?
>>16497284That picture was through the eyepiece with my phone. I did it just for fun but I do own a monochrome CCD camera (Atik 314L+).>NCG 7331I have a picture of it too that I took with the CCD. It's an old image from when I started doing astrophotography so it's not pretty. It's a little bit out of focus but it was fun.
>>16497301Yeah, when I started I wish I had someone who wasn't 80 year old boomers on the CloudyNight forums advising me.Luckily ChatGPT was a way better source for building my rig. Running ASIAIR Plus, ZWO autofocuser, and ZWO camera. I thought about doing the mono with filters but I really don't like the finished images I see. They seems oversaturated and not natural. You should shoot Stephan's Quintet. It's pretty close to NGC 7331
>>16497309>Yeah, when I started I wish I had someone who wasn't 80 year old boomers on the CloudyNight forums advising me.Most people on that site are insufferable but that probably goes for most places.>They seems oversaturated and not natural.My picture of Messier 51 is a perfect example of that. I fucked up the white balance and made the whole thing look purple and I'm too lazy too redo the post-processing.>You should shoot Stephan's Quintet. It's pretty close to NGC 7331Funny that you say that because I was considering imaging it that night but I went with NGC 7331 since it's a bigger target. I might image it one day but I haven't done much imaging in a long time so it probably won't happen. I find it to be a big hassle. Nowadays I only do visual observations which I find to be more enjoyable. I had a great observing session last night and I will type out a report in my next post.
>>16497333Honestly once I fully automated it with the ASI AIR PLUS and ZWO EAF it takes me about 10 min to setup each nice since I put away the scope between sessions in my garage. Before that it was a nightmare doing the manual polar align and everything.>Most people on that site are insufferable but that probably goes for most places.They're just old and elitist. Which is fine but I don't want to hear about the joys of dragging a PC out every night and I'm not old enough to be retired in a Bortle 2 zone with a private dome to image from.
>>16497263>>16497271That's not true. There have been several follow up studies.https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1961Natur.189..739P/citationshttps://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1966Natur.210...20P/citationsAlso isn't not even confirmed to have Einsteinium at all. It has many heavy elements but the heaviest were only claimed in 2008, without the detailed atomic data needed. Its also certainly got more iron than any of those. It's relatively iron poor, but in absolute terms there is lots.
>>16497381>articles from 1961 and 1966Yeah, no follow ups or anything since my friend. "Radioactive elements verifiably identified in this star include technetium and promethium.[16] While the longest-lived known isotopes of technetium have half-lives in the millions of years, the longest-lived known promethium isotope has a half-life of only 17.7 years; for it to be still present in measurable quantities, some process must be constantly replenishing it."We have the ability to analyze it and if it was "nothing" there hasn't been a follow up analysis to debunk it.
>>16497403>Yeah, no follow ups or anything since my friend. If you actually clicked the link you would see it lists work which cites those papers. Yes there are follow ups.>We have the ability to analyze it and if it was "nothing" there hasn't been a follow up analysis to debunk itI didn't say there was nothing. I said there are lots of heavy elements, but specifically those like Einsteinium were claimed in 2008 with a flimsy analysis. It might be present, but it's uncertain.
I have a thing for early space photos, please share them if you happen to find themThis is the first image of Earth from the distance of the Moon, August 23, 1966, from NASA's Lunar Orbiter 1
This is the dark (far) side of the moon first seen from Soviet Luna 3
The first photo ever taken from the surface of another celestial body, from Soviet Luna 9
a cute one of the moon from 1865
Imagine having a fucking triangle as a constellation lmao, what like they ran out of ideas?
>>16487720>What is this .99cI think he means 99 cent. He's probably talking about the power of crack cocaine taking him anywhere he wants to go. Say no to drugs anon.
>>16489539That was a real pic of a star, the idea that its sausage is just a meme that /pol/ started
>>16497279>Here's a picture of Messier 51 that I took with my phone through my 8inch f/5 newtonian telescope. It's a 30 second exposure.wow, is there a software to force the exposure time on a phone ?
E.Ts are watching all the time and they fill the position for a God from a parallel dimension. Space is overrated. They are here.
>>16498510>wow, is there a software to force the exposure time on a phone ?There probably is but the native camera app on my phone already has this feature. It's a Oneplus 7T.Here's a picture of the Orion Nebula from the same night.
>>16498576why don't you just use your phone to download a good picture of it instead of showing us that crap?
>>16498581I'll give you a drawing from 1875 instead.
the sun yesterday, ETX-125 with the phone on a 26mm eyepiece with an aliexpress but sturdy support, all metal, almost no play (screws have a specific thread, maybe from a CD player) and adjustable in 3 dimensions>>16498576that's amazing that this is from a phone, nice work, how do you manage the focus ?
>>16499097>that's amazing that this is from a phone, nice work, how do you manage the focus ?I just use a bright star and then switch target. I have a GOTO equatorial mount.
>>16480547>special relativitylol. Jesus, you people are easy to fool. Yes anon, that's real, for realsy. Don't bother looking up alternative theories. And ignore Einstein's own skepticismsThe NPC mem is 100% real
>>16494931The North Star is a star that is very close to the northern celestial pole in the northern skySo basically if you're in the northern hemisphere then the North Star should always be to the north. So you can see where north is. Because it's a bright star.>Can I go there?It's thought to be about 448 lightyears away. So even if you travelled at the speed of light (currently not possible), your journey there would take 448 years.
>>16499978thats crazy how people just say theres no life in any of them
>>16499992It's not even about life, something can exist that probably isn't a living being. could be incomprehensible shit, the way the galaxies are shaped and the positions can make a big difference compared to ours.
What's the most radiation biological life could adapt to
>>16500560About 2.42 radiations
>>16479797>the largest galaxy in the Local Group (the Milky Way is the second largest)This has been called into question recently. Recent surveys suggest the Milky Way may actually be more massive. Yet Andromeda contains more stars and at minimum at least appears to be physically larger. However the methods used to determine size favor a galaxy with more stars so this is uncertain. Recent mass estimates of the Milky Way have been all over the place also:>8.9×10^11 to 1.54×10^12>1.29×10^12>2.06×10^11
Due to length contractionIf you travel at 0.999C then you need only cover 0.045L.You have shortened your journey by 95.5%!
>>16501952>YOU CAN'T BREAK SPEED OF LIGHT>ackhualy due to time dilatation you will perceive traveling much much faster than lightphysicists are fraud
>>16501832Look at NGC 4627, looking like M110!