Flight 6 Splashdown EditionYay flap-chan!prev: >>16481946
Biggest happening of IFT-6: Elon Musk hired Usui Clear
Flap-chan is undefeatable!
>>16485135The front fell off
>>16485135https://x.com/JessicaTetreau/status/1859002910866370787Trump/Elon heading to Starbase just before the flight
>>16485142Hopefully as payload for next mission.>>16485153Good thing that it was out of the environment.
And people were saying he's too old for the job
>>16485135Steel was a great choice just for the tempering alone
>>16485163well thats cool
>>16485164was anyone else nervous about that big crease forward of the seam during reentry?
>>16485158I guess a tour is in order too
>So yeah, Ship's gonna bellyflop as it lands.
>>16485174fucking idiot
Glad I stayed up for Ship reentry, goodnight /sfg/
>>16485164It was a pretty great idea of doing a daytime re-entry, looks like the plasma wraps around a bit further than just the tiles.We might end up with the tiles on the rim of the shield jutting out a bit to separate the plasma flow from the body of the ship
>>16485174>mine don't come with the barbs
>>16485164I'll be honest though, I wouldn't board a second flight of that.
>>16485174He's pissed it didn't catch. Probably expected a photo op.
dont like to reference a scifi movie, but the speed it cam in at then BOOM flipped round for powered landing reminded of the scene from Interstellar when they land on the ocean planet>>16485182the flow is interesting. theres a gap between the forward heat effected zone and one on the back.
>>16485174is this ai or real? i cant tell anymore
Photo from today's super heavy booster catch! Congratulations SpaceX!
>>16485169why did the faggot who made this HAVE to use some other stream with a gay overlay?
>>16485159>he doesn't know
that was cool and all, but wen hop?
>>16485192
can't believe they left us hanging on the banana saga
>>16485187Same, the steel lost all it's properties, it's hardend an brittle now.
I wonder what's the streak on the raptor cam during reentry, maybe a test tile somewhere?
>>16485174>so yeah, it will come down like this on the FAA building
>>16485207Where the fuck did you learn material science?
>>16485211It was the piss-beam
>>16485174trump is going to hang musk nowit's over.....
>>16485211SPACELASERS
>>16485223they missed. ship was just keeping out of the beam. fuck you china.
>Launch>>>/wsg/5738210>Ship landing>>>/wsg/5738202>Superheavy landing>>>/wsg/5738213
>>16485211My guess is ablative heat shield.
so whats next? Flight 7 just a copy of Flight 5 testing the new hardware?or are they going to try to deploy a payload or something
what do you think of my predictions for spaceflight? I updated it after this flight2125 - mars base(spacex), population 100002126 - phobos base(spacex), populaton 70002127 - ceres base(spacex), population 90002128 - jupiter orbital base(spacex), popilation 7002129 - EVROPA base(spacex), population 120002130 - calisto base(spacex), population 80002131 - enceladus base(Spacex), population 150002132 - mars base(china), population ~1,6 billion2133 - venus cloud base(spacex), population 70002134 - saturn ring base(spacex), population 45002135 - titan cuck base(spacex), population less than a dozen2136 - uranus base(spacex), population 69002137 - neptune base(spacex), population 55002138 - first colony ship sent to proxima centauri b(spacex), population 1500002139 - Pluto (spacex), population 130002140 - colony ship sent to ross 128b(spacex), population 3700002141 - asteroid belt stations(china), population uncountable2142 - colony ships sent to GJ 1061(spacex), population 12500002143 - mercury solar death ray (spacex), population classified2144 - Eris cloning facility (spacex), population >1000000002145 - agartha base(spacex), population 7500002146 - Earth-X genocide wars2147 - earth colony(X empire), population 0.7 billion2148 - colony ships sent to andromeda galaxy via wormhole(X empire), population several billion2149 - Sagittarius A* colony(X empire), population ~13 trillion2150 - Mankind becomes a kardashev type 3 civilization(X empire), population ~70 quintillion2251 - Moon base(NASA), population 0-10
>>16485217I'm a mexican welder. Cabron!!
>>16485211nice try tory
>>16485235Now we're launching sats and perfecting catching of SH as we do real missions.
>>16485235Orbital BANANsat when?
>>16485174>that's very nice Elon, very nice... and smart too>So, how many Mexicans can you fit in it?
>no booster catch>burn through ONCE AGAIN on the flapsLmao, absolutely pathetic. Nice "reusable" rocket you got there
>>16485174lol, Trump looks like a tired parent indulging in their child's make-believe ramblings.
>>16485238Stay in Mexico.
>>16485235It has a payload door and is probably going to go orbital so if we're lucky we will see a starlink 2 being deployed with it as a test payload.
>>16485254texas is mexican clay.
>>16485257>we will see a starlink 2 being deployed with it as a test payload.not happening. At best that will be for flight 8
>>164852362252 - New Glenn finally launches
>>16485218Too early to fill the pisslock
>>16485174https://x.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1858989117692158125Video with sound
>>16485264Reason being?
https://x.com/DanScavino/status/1858995829014753522Here with Trump as they watch the Ship launch from launchpad
>>16485270
>>16485172yes
>>16485280
Interesting that they thanked the Australia Space Agency
>>16485271the reason is that I'm preparing my cope so I'm not disappointed in case they don't do it for flight 7
when flight 7
>>16485294about one extra fortnight
>>16485211Concentrated plasma. I wonder if we could redirect the plasma to more useful energy like that in the far future.
>>16485289
>>164852941209600s
>will now have to wait 90 days at least for an orbital launch license>will also have to make a report to the FAA as the booster didn't follow its flight plan
> set our sights on MarsBill Nelson is mars pilled https://x.com/senbillnelson/status/1859016550264811863?s=46&t=ySaWSLoZU6lwZ7u03-FcBQ
>>16485294exactly 1 two more weeks
>>16485307He's "oh shit Donald please don't fire me in January" pilled.
>>16485294Couple months at best
>>16485310Would he even be alive for 4 more years?
>>16485189It might be the aerodynamics of the ship causing a pocket of superheated drag as some of the flow adheres to the circular surface of the ship
>>16485306But the booster did seem to perform its abort plan perfectly, so hopefully the FAA will let it go without requiring the fish get therapy or some shit.
TOTAL SEA LIFE DEATH
>>16485174This shot is important in so many ways. It will be used as a damning reminder that Biden's predecessor and Trump's predecessor showed interest and promise in Elon and SpaceX, championing their success. While Biden himself, was the outlier who opted to try and destroy such a success story because corruption from auto unions demanded that he weaponize the law in an attempt to destroy SpaceX and Tesla.Biden's done, and history may have remembered him kindly had he not done this and Kamala won. But not only did she not win, you now have a president elect and his cabinet being deeply involved in all things aerospace in a way that will shape the future of the nation for generations to come. Something that only was replicated by very few presidents in the past, one of which was Kennedy.
>>16485310They always replace the head of NASA. Regardless of who is president. He knows he is on his way out. It always seemed such a bizarre thing to do though. Like... why? I understand if they were being incompetent the entire time, but the fact it happens basically every 4 years just seems like a "Well, of course, you have to replace the head of NASA. You just gotta!"
>clear spoke in english to someone from chatso cute
>>16485326>kennedy during moon landing>kennedy jr during moon landing and possibly mars landingThis will be lit
>>16485327I think because the last time they didn't was Wernher-kun and they don't want anyone else bullying Presidents like he did.
>>16485326Call me when Trump gives money to the Air Force to build the NGAD and fires the entire admiralty for their continued and endless fuckups in every domain for the last 30 years. They get more money than any branch of the Navy and are by far the most incompetent. It's startling.
>>16485327If it wasn't a political appointment, I'd agree. But you can't trust someone from the opposing side to do as he's told. They call it a party whip for a reason.
https://x.com/CSI_Starbase/status/1859017865376186719Payload bay slightly warped during re-entry. They need to reinforce that structure
>>16485264well nobody was expecting the payload this time either so who knows.
>>16485338oh shit, I thought that was just some crispynessthat's pretty bad
>>16485338>Put back one row of tiles from the several that were stripped on this flightIt is that easy in Stainless Steel.
>>16485174von Braun/ JFK vibes
KEEEEEEEEEK MUSKRATS WHATS THE COPE NOW HUH??
>>1648534925 flights next year lol, nothing to cope about
>>16485317yep i can imagine thats about right. an area of lower or circular flow keeping a bit of that heat around a moment longer. i noticed that there are several what look like locking clasps etc in the gap between heat affected bands and of course they've modeled all this.
>>16485336If they don't, you just replace them. It's really that simple. Besides, we both know that the Administrator is beholden to what Congress wants them to do, not the other way around. They just can't go rogue and start spending the budget on things that they don't authorize. If they could, we wouldn't have SLS.
>>16485326You really overestimate how much people give a fuck about space
>>16485338
>>16485359They can slow shit down to a crawl. Don't think a career politician doesn't have tricks in his bag.
>>16485327>>16485316>>16485310>>16485307Nelson was supposed to come in and deny SpaceX the HLS contract, which the acting admin with Lory Garver did a sole source award on. So he played politics and honored it when the acting admin resigned after deciding, in that once in a blue moon opportunity where NASA was able to decide its own fate and shot for the stars all in one. Despite that, he played things very by the book and tried to toe the line with the Biden admin. Then, one day, he was talking to a general at DoD with respect to SpaceX's benefits to the government for all their missions, Starlink gains and opportunities, etc. He learned something profound and that nugget of wisdom he carried with him to the congressional hearing on NASA's budget for 2022 and 2023 respectively. Nelson completely changed his tune on SpaceX after learning that bit of wisdom.Which was that over the course of SpaceX's life since it was awarded the first CRS contract for $1.2Bn and then all subsequent awards, including HLS, it has saved the US government $40Bn in launch costs. They have been receiving superior capability, launch cadence, and mission flexibility from SpaceX AND have saved over $40Bn in the process. So even if he'll be gone when Trump retakes office in January, I doubt he'd regret it.Bridenstine used to be climate change hoaxer. He then became the head of NASA, kept an open mind, and realized that no, climactic change is very much a real issue and needs a lot of time and money and research to be put towards it, because it has a material impact on National Security. Nelson follows a similar profile. The future NASA admin will undoubtedly do the same as his tenure will experience the boon of SpaceX via HLS for Moon and Mars and the profound opportunity it has on aerospace/orbital dominance for the US for generations to come.
>>16485360I was talking about the launch to someone and they asked if it was rescuing the astronauts
>>1648536074 Million Americans woke up today and decided to love space
>the president is watching>the future of the progrm hangs in the balance>and you have butterfingers!?
>>16485365>Nelson was supposed to come in and deny SpaceX the HLS contractYeah. Just like how they cancelled the Starlink contract. The fall out of the political disaster by the Biden admin is catrastrophic for them.
>>16485369Damn that might be true. Is Elon using Trump fanaticism to drive space fanaticism?
>>16485360That tune will change when a president makes it a national mandate that the country care. The top jobs that children and teenagers in China want to grow up to be is astronauts and physics and mathematicians. The top jobs that children and teenagers in the US want to grow up to be in twitch streamers and influencers. Culture dictates policy which dictates mandates. If the culture is compromised, then the population won't care. Sometimes it takes a proper leader to say "fuck your feelings, we're going to Mars and it's a national importance that we do."
>>16485362I think part of it may be due to change in color/reflectivity of the steel, but yeah, looks fishy
>>16485375yes
These EDS and TDS sufferers seething and coping is a delight.
>>16485375yes and for that he has gone from slimy grifter to unfathomably based in my mindhe's successfully scamming the government into doing something good for once
>>16485360Because it's closed off to anyone not rich or elite enough to join the astronaut corps. That's all about to change though.
It's 2035You have a job offer on mars, appartment and marsian lanket waifu included. You take the:>new starship, 1 million for a ticket>used starship, has a couple of flights but has always been recovered by the tower: 100k>starship that crashed in the ocean and was fixed by mexican welders: 1kAlso, the mexican starship offers taco's in flight.
>>16485375Yes, 100%Nasa budget will be tripled next year, and 80% will go to SpaceX
>>16485389All I want is a future where I can work in a shitbox to clean up old satellite trash.
>>16485390>the mexican starship offers taco's in flight.I'll take the third option. Worst case scenario the passengers can provide a bit of extra thrust for safe landing
>>16485346yeah i know what you mean
>>16485375You've caught on?
>>16485390Mexican Starship cements me into the history books.
>>16485135Why does it look like it was filmed from the air? The camera looks so high up
>>16485407chopper in area?
>>16485407>>16485409Probably drone footage. We scifi future these days.
>>16485410thought i read that they check out the ship with choppers once its in the water? they are clearly getting really good at aiming the thing.
>>16485294Early January.
https://x.com/OwenSparks_/status/1859017122116235413/photo/1Bretty gud there
>>16485288oh thats the top general of the space force
>>16485390Death by snu snu please.
So at this point a crew starship landing in the ocean has a pretty high chance of the crew surviving, enough time for them to bail out.
>>16485416I wonder if he got to touch a raptor engine
>>16485390They won't all be beefy
>>16485390I would let her sit on my face and drink her pee
>>16485421Sounds like starship was the real space plane all along
>>16485424I sign up for the expanse martian waifu's. Not the belter lankets.
>>16485374Starlink contract is FCC anon. That has fucking nothing to do with NASA. Try not to eat glue so that you braincells aren't made of cum.
>>16485416im so glad this guy is back. the biden/harris admin just have no life, no soul. dont think they ever went to a launch or even said 'good job'
>>16485421Put a Dragon capsule inside Starship. Draco abort thrusters into parachute landing. Simple.
>>16485429Biden was trying to insult SpaceX and throwing lawsuits about not hiring asylum bullshit.
>>16485288trump jr, ted cancun cruz, trump, ussf general
>>16485424oh she's lovely. ready to breed the next gen of tall willowy offworlder
>>16485430I really really really hope that when SpaceX unveils their space suit. It's what this mural depicts. It would so completely BTFO everything else on the planet. The seethe and cope would be impossible to quell.
>>16485407Zoom lens on a floating buoy.
>>16485432seriously....no soul, no imagination. what a bunch of anti-american, anti human progress party poopers
>>16485429democrat presidents seem to hate spaceflight outside of kennedy and to a lesser extent obama. its really weird since they're supposed to be the pro-STEM party.
>>16485430power rangers ass shit
So has superheavy gone to davy jones' locker yet?Or are they actually going to recover it?
>>16485135The absolute flex that is getting this shot, after launching from the other side of the world, godamn
>>16485442white power ranger
At this point, its safe to say that their plumbing for 33 Raptors are pretty much gold. It'll be nuts when they bring Raptor 3s into future ship designs. The significant reduction in mass, will undoubtedly lead to another reduction in potential plumbing designs. We'll likely see a Falcon 9 Block 1 to Block 5 with Starship and M1C to ML1D+++ with a potential TWR of 2.0+ over the next 10 years of this program.
>>16485439>to a lesser extent obama.i know the obama administration gave spaceX it's big break, but i dont actually believe anybody at the obama admin at that time believed spaceX would actualy pull it off.
>>16485242They won't catch starship for IFT7 because they failed to catch superheavy on IFT6. IFT7 December : StarlinksIFT8 February: Starship catch attemptIFT9 March: Refueling demoIFT10 April: Refueling IFT9 shipIFT11 June: First use of Gen 3 Starship and routine operations
>>16485430>>16485435what we fucking need already is for that one whore to stop sitting on her fucking patent so people can start making skintight physical pressure based suits again.way more flexible and you can put anything you want over it.or just leave it as is with just a helmet and backpack so you can see girls nips through their clothes in space.
>>16485447If the full stack has a TWR of 2.0 you're not making the ship big enough.
>>16485442iron man edition. remember, elon was in ironman 2
>>16485448An expendable human rated Falcon 9 would've been enough of a win.
>>16485443That would be one cool ass patch. A reused booster/ship that was once previously in davy jones' locker.
>>16485450patents only last 20 years
>>16485451this, the reason for future stretches is basically to take advantage of all that extra thrust so it doesn't get wasted on an overly high TWR that will give diminishing returns instead, 1.5 or a little higher TWR is ideal.
>>16485448>>16485439The really crazy bit is that Biden was integral in convincing Obama during their 2 term presidency for pushing more for commercial aerospace to take over instead of transitional NASA contracting. So, to then see Biden's own fall from grace from that to what he became as a cudgel of the UAW and other unions against SpaceX is pretty bleak to how destructive the unions in America have become. The purpose of an union is to protect the workers WITHOUT poisoning the innovation potential of the company. Instead, it's become exclusively the former and will go out of its way to poison the company and its contract. Where something as simple as vertical integration, which is fairly common in business and has been throughout human history, can lead to such radical disruption that the only way to combat a single company of barely 15,000 people, being able to overtake and shake up an industry of hundreds of thousands of others, was for these groups to weaponize a presidency into acting so maliciously.
>>16485172thats just the boob crease
>>16485382>>16485387>>16485399Why would you guys think otherwise? Trump supporters are pumping the SpaceX support numbers like crazy and Trump wants the ego boost of a moon landing during his term.
>>16485457>>16485451Obviously. I'm just saying that given their pace of innovation and the degree of changes occurring at the frequency they're occurring. I would expect to see a Falcon 9 Block 1.1 up to FT and Block 5 transformation with Starship too. With ship and booster lengths being modified to accommodate for each percent of efficiency clawed back through all the testing they do.
>>16485349we get 25 chances next year
https://x.com/planet4589/status/1859027291705405672>My fit to the data: 8 x 190 km orbit, changing after restart to 50 x 228 km. FT6 data in red, fits in magenta, FT4/5 data in blue and cyan
>>16485439They only pretend to like science for show. Spaceflight is the real shit hence they don't care about it.
>>16485450wait what, pressure based suit? those are patent trolled, is that why we haven't been seeing them?
>>16485464>25 starships launched in one yearI'll believe it when I see it
>>16485471You'll see it in 13 months bucko
>>16485439>its really weird since they're supposed to be the pro-STEM party.They're actually just Communists and use the veneer of "soi-ence" to push dialectical materialism. When the conclusive data on things like the efficacy of Classic Marxian Communism or race and IQ started rolling in they dropped interest in genuine scientific advancement, right as they took over the academy, which is why the West has been spinning its wheels for 30 years impotently in everything that isn't an applied technology like spaceflight or AI.
>>16485467So it still could've made it had they ok'd the catch?
>>16485473I hope you're right
>>16485174>>16485270>trump:controlled by a computer or by man?I bet the manned poster is cumming
>>16485478He might have thought "manual remote control" like an RC plane.
>>16485450Good gravy.
>>16485474>dialectical materialismYou mean historical materialism, which is in opposite to Great Man theory that states that economic conditions and class struggles don't alone move history but the leadership of Great Men(TM)Elon Musk kinda proving that one true desu
Nothing ever happens
>the space force reddit downvoted the pic of their general at the spacex launchas expected. they hate trump and elon so much on there.
>>16485482That too but "dialectical materialism" is a term commies use amongst themselves to paint their nonsense as objective and scientific.
>>16485451Which is why V3 will be ~7000 tons at liftoff compared to ~5000 tons for V1.
>>16485484How the fuck do you JOIN a military branch FOUNDED by a guy you hate? Were these all just enlisted chairforce lateral transfers?
>>16485482No he means dialectical materialism, the philosophy invented by Marx as a philosophical foundation for socialism, which became the precursor to critical theory.
>>16485484probably not even Space Force members but seething tourists
>>16485365CO2 is plant fertilizer and its a good thing to have more of
Engine relight in space
Trump started boasting about Musk’s accomplishments at campaign rallies, such as when Starship’s reusable rocket booster returned to the launch tower on a previous occasion and was caught by mechanical arms.“Those arms grab it like you grab your baby, just like you grab your little baby. And it hugged it and just put it down, and there it was,” Trump said.Musk was with Trump at his Mar-a-Lago resort on election night and has spent much of the two weeks since there. Trump’s granddaughter Kai Trump posted a photo of her with Musk at one of Trump’s golf resorts, writing that Musk was “achieving uncle status.”Last week, Musk appeared in a golden ballroom at Mar-a-Lago, seated in the center of the room as a guest of honor at an event. Trump, in his remarks at the black tie event, said Musk’s IQ is “about as high as they can get” and praised him as “a really good guy.”“He launched a rocket three weeks ago and then he went to Pennsylvania to campaign because he considered this more important than launching rockets that cost billions of dollars,” Trump said.He joked about Musk’s constant presence at Mar-a-Lago, saying: “He likes this place. I can’t get him out of here.”He added, “And you know what, I like having him here.”
elon and trump comprise a dramaturgical dyad
>>16485496AI post.
>>16485495The relight was the portion of the test that I was most confident in. Glad to see it worked out, though I'm sure we all would have liked to see a longer burn. I understand why they couldn't realistically include that in their flight profile, however.
>>16485499idiot
>>16485476basically the stack had plenty of energy and didn't underperform, it was just low and slow early on because the relight was prograde and pushed it further along to where it would've been otherwise
basically a complete success. the pseudo-SH landing looked fine, if there was a tower under it.
hmm
>>16485503They even learned of new possible failure case with tower timing and the ship deformation a bit. I know Ship v1 arc is over and we're now in v2 era, but this data is still useful to modify ship v2 and v3.
>>16485487alot of them seem to be furries/trannies in IT roles who are using the space force as a way to land a cushy job after their service. the real warriors are probably using facebook, but i never check the space force fb page.
>>16485505the big ? at the moment is the new license for flight 7. everything else seems fine for the SS program... maybe besides refueling in flight. worried for that
>>16485496all this effort on a post that most people glaze over because they think it's AIslop.in an hour nobody will even remember this post that you spent so much effort on.
https://x.com/SERobinsonJr/status/1859001297783189705Water landing and explosion after
25 launches next year. We are so fucking back and the future is so bright.
>>16485508actually AP spent the effort on it not me
so i managed to track super heavy all the way up and down with my $10 walmart binoculars (this required laying back on a sand dune in such a way that i'm still picking burrs out of my underwear somehow). i was astounded at how easy it was to do. does anyone know the maximum downrange distance for it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCem0E-0Q6YStarship PLLOOM at the 2hour 35min mark or so
>no catchHe won
>>16485503>>16485505Mostly we learned>the heat shield is much stronger than even SpaceX thought it is>you cannot take those bottom tiles off, the steel gets soft and wrinklesI wonder where they are going to catch the ship by now
>>16485518They will add the legs back just watch
>>16485518>you cannot take those bottom tiles off, the steel gets soft and wrinklesOh so that was because they took off some of the heatshield in the area huh. That makes sense.
another point, none of the 1000 other minor improvements/changes had catastrophic consequences. that's pretty impressive, for a complex vehicle.
>>16485517did he even stream this one?
>>16485135how is this autistic retard Musk the best humanity can do?
>>16485526
>>16485484>HOW COULD THESE MILITARY MEN AND WOMEN DISLIKE A SUPERIOR OFFICER?????Civilians, gotta love em!
>>16485529
>>16485521Yes, they removed 2,100 tiles iirc. The lady said it on the X stream
>>16485439The left wing sees it as a waste that should go for dem programs for poor people.
>>16485533Kinda looks like a proton
next they remove 2101
So when will tower two be completed?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icsnJdOVDng
>>16485448Obama saw the writing on the wall. It's pretty clear in Bergers book, especially when he starts icing Charlie Boldon out of NASA.
>>16485428He's talking about the admin dumbass. FCC is also federal
https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1859034989788360804New Mexico buying 90,000 residents Starlink
>>16485514answering my own question, it was probably at least 150 kilometers away at max. the sun was reflecting off it REALLY well and obviously the weather was clear as can be.
>>16485543A crucial first step towards making New Mexico habitable for humans.
>>16485542I was specifically talking about Nelson faggot. Don't change the subject, you or him.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1859036912348262787WE GAAN
>>16485360>You really overestimate how much people give a fuck about spacepeople care about starship, they just didn't know about it or it was a render at the time. But biden wasn't forward looking
>>16485546it's not too bad heret. NASA WSTF employee
>We will do one more ocean landing of the ship. If that goes well, then SpaceX will attempt to catch the ship with the tower.WTFF
>>16485548I was right>>16485449
>>16485546>>16485550yeah, loads of retirees go to new mexico. parts of it are really nice.
>>16485553las cruces is 1/3 medical infrastructure for old people
>>16485541Biden's missed opportunity
>>16485552I don't foresee them launching Starlinks as payload until AFTER the first ship catch success.
>>16485552yes? everyone knew that already lmao
>>16485450Pressure suits are a lot harder than you think. You basically have to micro control tension in every tiny part of the suit. Which isn't impossible, it would just require a suit made out of thousands of mini actuators... very expensive.
>>16485338that sucks I was hoping they'd get off scott free so they can just tower catch the ship without tiles being in the way
>>16485548NSF BTFO. They were claiming 2026 for Starship catch. LMAO
>>16485556Unironically why wouldn't they? Starship doesn't land with Starlinks on the tower, they are already in space when Starship comes back down empty. The only reason I think they didn't put Starlinks on this flight is because their double license wouldn't cover the mass of them being onboard (and I don't think Gen1 has the right power or storage space for them anyway)
Are they using a second tower for the ship, or can they catch the ship above the booster on the same tower?
>>16485560Non-zero chance of thisImagine if IFT 7 booster destroys the catch tower
>>16485541>>16485555
We are so back.
>>16485564Methane can't melt steel beams
>>16485564wow, now imagine if my COCK destroys your BUSSY
>>16485548what the fuck?! is that really how it's pronounced?what is wrong with Dutch people?https://translate.google.com/?sl=nl&tl=en&text=We%20gaan!&op=translate
>>16485429"good luck on your senior year"
>>16485567Ok, then what if it crashes into the tower, falls to the ground, and explodes?
>>16485554I eat an ungodly amount of food whenever I’m in El Paso or the adjacent NM region. I stopped in las cruces on my way up to white sands and had the best food I’ve ever had in my life
>>16485572That would be extremely painful
>>16485575It's a big ship.
>>16485574where'd you go?
>>16485566Wrong. We are going places we've never gone before.
>>16485576UUUU
Ummm confirmed?
>>16485563It will be the same tower they have always used
>>16485570Moo ham?
>>16485580>PAYLOAD WILL BE DEPLOYEDAMBATUBLOW
>>16485580>Book Your LaunchPlease please please let the payment be in crypto.
>>16485580this is a fake/scam site btw
Surprisingly the media has been pretty well-behaved about it
what happened to the barge idea
>>16485525I dont think a single sfg poster has gone to look lmao
>>16485562Gen3 full sized are about 1.2T per satellite. V2 Starships are capped to around 50T of payload. Which limits them to around 24 Gen3 Starlinks per launch or 12 groups of 2 as one launch block. That's basically the same output as a Falcon 9. But with a launch cadence of once a month. Makes the value proposition of launch not very economical. The other reason is that by launching after a successful catch, they can qualify that their ship is actually capable of putting that payload up. Right now, they have no way to recover the ship and really tear it down to see what needs reinforcing, what needs improvement in terms of allow composition, etc.Visual and sensor data will only take you so far vs being able to actually carve up the ship and put it under the microscope and see how it truly did.Lastly and most importantly, Tower 2 is not ready yet to fly Starships. Which means if they attempt the catch, it fails, and takes out tower 1, they're screwed and don't have a way to continue for a year. Which is a BIG problem under the Trump admin, because it will make HIM look bad with no progress in aerospace despite his likely national mandate that he probably will dictate once sworn in. Thus it would be foolish to launch Starlinks on Starships before any of this supporting infrastructure is ready to go.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1859036912348262787Flight 8 will have the first tower catch attempt of Starship
>>16485548if IFT-8 means ship catch, then IFT-7 is going to be an orbital ship?
>>16485594It could be orbital since they did a successful relight this time
>>16485595yeah thats what i was thinking
SpaceX getting accelerated. This is the best timeline
>>16485560>NSF BTFO. They were claiming 2026 for Starship catch. LMAOLook I'm just a retard spectator that doesn't know shit about shit, but that timeline would be retarded and I don't know how anyone would ballpark that. Starship flies like once a month, how could they possibly hold their dick in their hand for that long?
>>16485550It beats Phoenix. FUCK Phoenix.
>>16485592>>16485562You have to remember that the Democrats and other GOP people who don't like how Elon is being involved in their swampy activities, will be looking for any opportunity to drive a wedge between him and Trump, to poison their relationship and destroy it. So there's an added factor here where taking unnecessary risks is NOT advisable when Falcon 9 can continue to fly and put up V2 minis. There will be plenty of regulatory support and exemption provided by the admin that will allow SpaceX to increase their revenue streams with the V2 Minis and the 6,400+ satellites already in orbit. Going fast and failing forward doesn't mean you need to go fast and act retarded.
>>16485577Andele in las cruces, green enchiladas.L&J cafe in el paso, I ordered carne asada—whatever they served me, it was potatoes/green chile/stewed beef and it was insanely good despite looking like slop. Great food, really different from texas triangle tex mex (obviously)
>>16485592>makes the value proposition of launch not very economicalIt doesn't matter, this isn't about the money but testing capabilities. We still don't even know if Starship can launch Starlinks yet because it hasn't done so>Tower 2 is not ready yet to fly StarshipsNobody is waiting for tower 2 for anything. They don't have the time, nor do they care since like you saw today they can scrub into the ocean if something goes slightly suboptimally>Which means if they attempt the catch, it fails, and takes out tower 1, they're screwed and don't have a way to continue for a yearNothing is taking out anything
How did things become so good suddenly?
>>16485548>>16485594>erm... the Ship launched from Tower 1 but was caught by Tower 2... which is 48 feet to the west of Tower 1... therefore it did NOT do a full orbit and is still a suborbital make-believe rocket
>>16485605The pendulum swingeth forth and back
>>16485604Stop being a massive faggot in ignoring the political angle. The game just got way bigger and there's lots of players looking to fuck things up.
>>16485605Sometimes progress happens in years and other times in months
new mexico has alot of space stuff
>>16485603i'm partial to triangle texmex just because that's what i grew up on but the green chili out there's great.
>>16485605Turns out the only thing hard about spaceflight is making your engines not kill themselves when trying to land. Once you strap a fuckton of COPVs to your rocket almost all the problems suddenly go away
>>16485605musk bought twitter and it cooked
>>16485605
>>16485610Take your meds or go back to /pol/
>>16485615Isn’t the plan to eliminate COPVs though? Can’t just handwave the problem away
>>16485618Suck my raptor faggot.
>>16485603andele is good
>>16485135what's the point of a splashdown?
>>16485610I've read his post like 3 times and I don't see how there is anything political, positive or negative>>>/pol/
>>16485623To show you can land it without blowing up the launchsite.
>>16485620They can eliminate the COPVs later when people are on the moon, Starships are flying around the clock, and the FAA trusts them (or is abolished). Optimizing payload to orbit is something that Falcon 9 did after hundreds of flights, not right away. It has to be working first, then it can be upgraded
uncultured swine
>>16485616Twitter's objectively worse now, it was a sacrifice, not an upgrade
>>16485628reminded that there is no lower bound to how stupid journalists can be
>>16485623>splashdownThere are two kinds:>soft splashdownSimulate a rocket landing on the tower without the risk, or if you're NASA then it's the only way to return astronauts.>hard splashdownyou don't give a fuck about the landing, you just care about no paying someone to clean up the debris
>>16485625that only works on one (1) known body
fuck you
*zooms in*So if Ship 31 just flew..
>>16485632And?
>>16485252>put ship through stress test that's supposed to exceed what it's currently engineered to handle>it makes it home in one pieceBreddy gud in my book
>>1648563442 is just the meme number:> The number 42 from Douglas Adams' 'The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy' represents all meaning ('the meaning of life, the universe, and everything') as determined by the fictional supercomputer Deep Thought.
>>16485365>. Then, one day, he was talking to a general at DoD with respect to SpaceX's benefits to the government for all their missions, Starlink gains and opportunities, etc. He learned something profoundsomething of a pebblely nature
>>16485635it seems like the purpose of starship is to get people to other bodies than the moon (and earth). if the ship can't rely on having a pad where it lands (let alone water), then even if the point is to return safely to earth from another planet, it should have the capability to land without a pad or water on earth. i suppose it's ok for contingency stuff, but doesn't seem to be relevant to main mission objectives.
https://x.com/BrendanCarrFCC/status/1859044179852357867/Inside the control room
>>16485639I don't think it's just the funny meme number, the launch cadence is going to increase soon.
Watching some POS janky human landing system demo starship landing on the moon will be an awesome live stream
>>16485643unless the very next ship sent up is a tanker and all subsequent ships are full of prop for refilling, the first demo lander won't be ship 42
>>16485629Can you explain what objective metrics are worse other than its not as profitable?
>>16485643IFT7 still has to go through the license and investigation fuckery because it is a brand new booster design, which has never taken less than a monthEvery time SpaceX changes something about the design, a noticeable delay is added before they can launch. The closer SpaceX gets to the finalized design the faster they can be with re-launch cadences
>>16485617november to march was dark times
>>16485649No, the endless months preceding IFT1 was hell. Just watching the approval bar from the FAA refuse to move to the finish for practically a year.
>>16485628
NEW EAGERhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ynebk_71sxM
>>16485653This. I fought driving my car into a wall every time they announced some new bullshit delay or assessment.
>>16485655f9 has already launched like 1000 timesStarship is now doing almost orbital launchesthink the "who wins reuse" story is already over
>>16485656I was pretty sure /sfg/ might actually die. I had never been more depressed
>>16485642Ted Cruz really did a good job in pivoting to support Dahnahld.
>>16485648>which has never taken less than a month*under the Biden adminwhich is effectively over
>>16485658hmm yes valid point, however he's a rocketlab fanboy
>>16485416how did this stupid twerp get to hang out with the Prez?
>>16485655SpaceX already won the race and has gone home. The question is who wins reusabilty of those remaining that are still running.
>>16485655Rocket Lab shareholders really are a pathetic and desperate bunch
>>16485660He looks like a simpering henchman in the pic.Trump looks bored.
>>16485674yeah
>>16485570>what the fuck?! is that really how it's pronounced?>what is wrong with Dutch people?what the fuck is wrong with english speaking people?have you heard your langauge compared to the written? it's like they're 2 different languages
>>16485678he looks like he's almost 80 and tired.
https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/18590127904445565704 launch in 48 hours. 3 Falcons 1 Starship. 2 launch per day avg
>>16485677to be fair, Neutron would be really cool if it wasn't a paper rocket...
>>16485681Because he is, dude has 4 years of war ahead of him.
>>16485236This is the dumbest thing ever. We'll have AGI in a year or two and none of your (or anyone's) predictions will be accurate. We could have a million people on Mars in 10 years, or the total extinction of the human race.
>>16485682elon singlehandedly offsetting and then putting back all the carbon in the atmosphere. Tesla+SpaceX=Neutral
In case this was missed, NASA is planning to contract SpaceX to deliver JAXAs pressurized lunar rover to in support of Artemis VII, and will contract Blue Origin to deliver a surface habitat no earlier than 2033 https://www.nasa.gov/news-release/nasa-plans-to-assign-missions-for-two-future-artemis-cargo-landers/
>>16485691>2033Will this contract even matter by then?
>>16485680I speak two other languages and English sounds fine to me. I think you'll find that most people, regardless of their native language, feel the same way.
>>16485697Now compare it to the written
With data and flight learnings as our primary payload, Starship’s sixth flight test once again delivered
https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=starship-flight-6>During this phase, automated health checks of critical hardware on the launch and catch tower triggered an abort of the catch attemptSo it unironically could have been the comm tower being damaged that fucked this up?
>>16485655Thanks for the videos King!
>>16485700yeah
>>16485700You can see the dust cloud swamp the tower roof and comms in the new drone shot and maybe that knocked it off a bit, is this all because SpaceX refused to use more water than before for deluge?
One a scale of 0 to 10, how successful was today's launch?
>>164857069. Tower catch would've been a 10.
>>164857067/10Only real fuck up was the whatever nonsense that prevented the booster to be caught and the forward right flap having a small burn through.
Starship is real, you've seen it down at Boca, you've seen it down at the Indian Ocean
>>16485700That's insane
clear was so cute today!
>>164857068
>>16485548MADCUNTINGLAD
got mine
>thunderf00t didn't streamnoooooooooooooooooooo
>>164857063. Tower catch would've been a 10.
>>16485718he's a broken man
>>16485700Sounds like they need to build the equivalent of the QD arm and automated blast shielding at the top of the tower, so that during launch the shield covers it and after it's unshielded, and then during the landing burn it's semi-shielded so that the booster can communicate with the comms array without potentially damaging it. Or just replace the comms tower entirely with Starlink antenna that are shielded with the heat shield tiles.
They say what was up with the booster yet?
methane engines are justnot as kino as rp1
>>16485718he was too busy swinging in his closet.
>>16485717>CONSOOOOMSpaceX does not need your money.
>>16485700>no catch because of some dinky ass antenna leaning 5 degress too much
>>16485729is it supposed to do that
>>16485390Mexican food is garbage. Fuck off
>>16485729No way
>>16485731a little bending is normaltheres no expansion joints after all
>>16485416Absolutely amazing photo. The future is now.
>>16485732Sure, most of it is. but when all of it is fresh produce, it's okay. Problem is that most of the time it's not.
>>16485691>deliver JAXAs pressurized lunar rover to in support of Artemis VIIThat's pretty sweet>Blue Origin to deliver a surface habitat no earlier than 2033That won't happen
>>16485541>>16485448Obama took the credit from the Bush administration. COTS was the leap of faith, commercial crew was just an obvious pen swipe of a known conclusion. Fuck Obama.
>>16485723tower issue>>16485700
>>16485729are you telling me the stuff that looks like giant flames... is hot?!
>>16485729I wondered if I was just seeing things during the flight.
>6 months ago I jokingly told my neoliberal coworker that I'm a single issue voter (the issue being spaceflight) so they would stop talking about politics things have been rough around the office lately. what are the chances Trump would end up being the most pro space president, possibly ever?
>>16485726I'm American, I have everything I will ever need and more. When I see something I want, I buy it
>>16485618Off your tranny kosher self
>>16485338>>16485729I KNEW it fucking buckeled! "Naw thats just soot", FUCK YOU!
>>16485748he's not going to beat out lbj because lbj actually cared
>>16485729guess thats what happens when you remove all the heat tiles
>>16485749How much extra weight is all that ice on it?
>>16485700Weird, could have sworn I heard a "tower is go for catch" callout before the abort was announced. Guess they changed their minds.
>>16485757One entire Starship payload's worth (0 tons)
>>16485642Guy on bottom right looks mad.
>>16485642>>16485762Every SpaceX employee looks upset lol
>>16485717Flight b?
>>16485761This reentry looked a lot better despite being faster. No burning methane leaking out from the venting ports and much less glowing between the engines.
>>16485748Loudly celebrate the increased launch cadence of Starship every time there's a flight.You earned it anon, rub it in a little.
>>16485768for banana
>>16485767are those birds dropping after 00:18? can someone rip the frames?
>>16485775almost certainly debris but i'm too lazy to go frame-by-frame
>>16485174>>16485346these pre-scripted photoshoots with 60s-like filters are really good. I wonder what marketing agency they use.
>>16485776they seem far enough away from the ship and larger than a tile. could be a sea eagle
>>16485775frame 1
>>16485775>>16485780frame 2 only 2 frames
>>16485769is this fucker missing a whole strip of tiles what the fuck
Today was a good day
>>16485782They need to catch one to figure out what keeps breaking.
>>16485782I think all the glued tiles came off and it still made it
>>16485784Here's a better one
>>16485748Privatization of spaceflight is like a neoliberal wet dream, what do you mean by this?
>>16485785"I can fit so many fucking LRASMs in that bitch..."
anyone got more?
>>16485667The sun has gone down and the moon has gone up, and long ago somebody left with the cup.
>>16485271I think they need to change some launch license stuff, some anon here mentioned it after flight 5
>>16485797That shitty screen for POTUS?!!
>>16485236Massive datacenter nest placed in Titan by 2090s, hosting the biggest virtual reality server realm managed by AI, populated by living and dead humans
>>16485785>space force general can't wear a nice dress uniform when going to a public event with the president-elect or else it'll be a heckin' fascismOur society is so gay
Most uninformed people still don't understand how cheap these flights are, they think each flight cost billions
>>16485722I dunno if starlink alone can provide the accuracy required for a booster catch, I'm assuming they're using some fancy in-house GBAS hence the aerial on the tower. I'd assume its a similar system to what they've got going on the droneships
>starlink is running out of capacity because people and businesses are buying it as a backup to their existing internet accesswtf
>>16485797where is this at? one of the hotels?
>>16485807Starbase is costing 1.5 billions per year, and thats not counting the cost of operations outside starbase related to starship. And this year we had 4 flight, so we can say every starship is about 500 millions, for a rocket that can not even get to orbit by the way
>>16485812top of megabay/high bay
>>16485815i'm talking about each flight
So is SpaceX going to build a retractable heat shield for the antenna now?
>>16485811holy shit we are GOING
>>16485815>for a rocket that can not even get to orbit by the wayFuck out of here
>>16485811Is that a meme answer?
>>16485360They'll start caring about it when we actually do something besides test rockets. If someone is not interested by humans returning to set foot on the moon then they are soulless automatons.
>>1648582350%
>>16485809that makes no sense. If it's a backup they're not using it so it doesn't take any capacity
>>16485823both will work on Mars, unmodified
>>16485826it's literally 'sold out' in some cells around californian cities
>>16485829so the network isn't out of capacity, their manufacturing process to make ground dishes is you sensationalist retard
>>16485729>this is meant to support catch hardwarelol
Raptor 2 now at 194/195 on ascend (only single raptor 2 shutdown early in IFT-4)
>>16485823why do you think he wants self-driving electric cars and robots? you need them on mars
>>16485830read what i said again, it's sold out within CELLS of coverage. Obviously that doesn't mean they're sold out of ground dishes because they could just ship more into those cities
>>16485812Megabay 2, looking east
>>16485823yes and no. I don't think they are gonna develop a Mars-capable Cybertruck this soon, and Optimus is still in the early stages. They could be useful, sure, at least at being cannibalized for spare parts and materials. However, Elon knows that the most obvious answer for the initial cargo Starships, which have a decent chance of RUDing, is filling those ships with simple stuff: non-perishable food, water, tools, medical kits, solar panels, and more materials (e.g. for welding). After all, if they fail, losing all that is not a big deal, and if they land, it's always better to have more redundancy in case of an emergency later on. On the other hand, it's SpaceX we are talking about, they could just say 'fuck it', send some Cybertrucks, land successfullly, and then end up not even using those cars at all.
>>16485847>fist Starship to land on Mars is full of pallets of bottled water, cases of MREs, and some gas cylinders nice
Musk fans keep cheering failure.And thunderf00t has over 70k followers but gets less than 3k views. He is clearly being censored.
>>16485855WTF I HATE MUSK NOW!
>>16485855>spacex bad because, ahem, HYPERLOOPPPPhe is unironically senile, wouldn't be surprised if he ends up in a nursing home in a couple of years from now.
>>16485855I've never once gone to this guy's channel or twitter. I wouldn't even know he existed, if not for anon constantly posting his opinions here.But why? Why are the opinions of this faggot news? What makes them relevant? Who cares?
>>16485729>starship has wrinklesHAG ROCKET
>>16485869Rocketgirl artists, let's fucking see the pre/post launch Starship.
>>16485756>>16485831Now that they have determined the tiles are needed there, where are they going to put the new catch pins for Starship? Still on the sides? Are they going to make them out of pure tungsten?
>>16485593Today's one crashed into the water at 30 km/h. It is not ready yet.
>>16485873Dafuq are you talking about, Starship has had perfect landings in the water over and over again. It is more than ready. They just need to figure out the catch pin locations
>>16485873retard, it was literally a perfect water landing.
soon
>>16485871metallic heat shield
>>16485871Tiles aren't necessarily needed there, but some structural support is.
we need a collage of all the HLS concept changes over time
>>16485326New Frontier 2.0
>>16485873>it landed on water at 6km/h ~ 1.7m/sLying retard
>>16485876disgusting, what ended up happening to the kino solar wings?
SLS is dead guys
If Harris had been elected, SpaceX would have caught that booster today.
>>16485888*Elon would have been indicted and charged
>>16485887>Artemis 1 will be the only flight of SLSDoomed from inception.
>>16485887Super Lame System
so when flight 7?
>>16485887>>16485894what does the Burger mean by this?
>>16485887spacex: look at us, we're the space program now
>>164858981, maybe 2.
*ACK*
>>16485555Vice President Lady is the Chair of the President's Space Council. Why wasn't she there?
>>16485898No sunk cost phallacy allowed in this administration
Mike Griffin is gonna be PISSED
>>16485902
>>16485855>AUGH B-BUT HYPERLOOPthis guy is genuinely insane
What happened?
wen nuGlenn?
>To be clear we are *far* from anything being settled, but based on what I'm hearing it seems at least 50-50 that NASA's Space Launch System rocket will be canceled. Not Block 1B. Not Block 2. All of it. There are other ways to get Orion to the Moon.>My sense is that the solution would be launching Orion on one rocket (probably FH, from 39A) and then docking with a (separately launched) Centaur V and boosting it to the Moon.Repostan from Berger, a week ago
So erm isn't Orion still a broken pile of shit? Will it even fly in the next 2 years?
>>16485878>tiles aren't needed thereYou can't just reverse heat-treat and bend the hull back into shape every time you want to launch it again. The hull didn't warp last time and it's not normal. It's too hot
>>16485913Nahh we were just doomposting about the heatshield, it's probably fine. safe
>>16485869
>>16485902> Sept 2025So not happening:https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/10/artemis-ii-almost-certainly-will-miss-its-september-2025-launch-date/
>>16485897Realistically late December or early January. Ol' Musky wants to catch a ship by March so that would line up with IFT8 like he is talking about again
>>16485921>10 months out>"yeah we're not gonna make it"Cancel it and fine everyone involved to make up the lost costs.
>>16485616What's funny is they forced him to buy it thinking they were owning le billionaire.>>16485628Lmao, what site?
>>16485921>>16485923The rocket is already complete. How is 10 months not long enough to fix a heat shield? They already did it in the 60s and 70s. Are they retarded?
>>16485929The capsule got back just fine, and it isn't as if they weren't gonna replace the whole heat shield after each mission anyway. Fuckin' send 'er.
>>16485629Retard alert
>>16485174>Folds paper in half then pokes starship through it
>>16485929No, they are immensely smart at stealing money from the taxpayer while doing nothing it's just the scam is finally up.
>>16485934
https://x.com/AndyLapsa/status/1859089259749327068
https://x.com/Geiger_Capital/status/1859016594216939731
>>16485680>have you heard your langauge compared to the written?Those are french words that have been absorbed, every word you wrote is pronounced as written.
https://x.com/BehizyTweets/status/1858997669999636490
Oh well, Trump sort of got his photo op
>>16485940https://youtu.be/IICGZ7YOafs?si=CAX_up9hUp3MIHB1
https://x.com/DJSnM/status/1859110458130919663Tile breaking off
>>16485887That was before Elon's booster crashed, embarrassing Trump on the world stage
>>16485887It'd be hilarious if the administration is so buck broken that they announce this before Jan 20th
>>16485691Was it made by Honda?
>>16485946Oops I'm retardedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IICGZ7YOafs
>>16485855so what's going to happen when Starship eventually just becomes a functional spacecraft completing missions? Is he going to kill himself?
>>16485952He will move the goalposts."FELON HUSK promised to have 10 BILLION humans on Mars by 2030. EPIC FAIL"
uh oh thunderchads, the number is going down....
>>16485955>QUICK, TALK ABOUT HYPERLOOP AGAIN!
>>16485955I remember when he was against SJW shit back in 2015. It's really funny how he's flipped
>>16485847cyberptruck doesn't seem unreasonable. retrofit with assloads more solar, perhaps something deployable from the back and drive it around under the guise of "fastest rover ever" looking for good landing spots. optimus no chance for any practical application, but I could see it happening for some promotional meme. first step on mars is a Tesla TM Optimus TM.
>>16485958he hasnt flipped on that. he absolutely hates women
>>16485759You're right. Retards keep thinking it was the tower, but it wasn't. The booster was simply coming in too hot and they were worried it wouldn't slow down enough. But as it turns it out did relatively well and the catch would've been successful.
>>16485801>1 hour ping
>>16485961>Retards keep thinking it was the tower, but it wasn't. It just wasn't!!!Perhaps the real retards were the friends we met along the way?> Following a nominal ascent and stage separation, the booster successfully transitioned to its boostback burn to begin the return to launch site. During this phase, automated health checks of critical hardware on the launch and catch tower triggered an abort of the catch attempt. The booster then executed a pre-planned divert maneuver, performing a landing burn and soft splashdown in the Gulf of Mexico.https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=starship-flight-6
>>16485939Passive shield is safer than active shield for human rating.
>>16485833Yes, but on the first payloads?
>>16485974If your engines work then your heatshield will work. If your engines don't work then you die in a messy rocket accident, uh kind of like starship?
>>16485971I wonder what on the tower was fucked up. Antennae or chopsticks?
>>16485989probably both
>>16485729Looks like a failure in the autogen.
>>16485495Why didn't they relight the vacuum engines?
>>16485995that would have required lighting all three to not impart bad spin
>>16485944Yes he did
>>16485958he hasn't really changed at all, he just got stuck on musk while doing his debunking videos. whatever gets the most clicks. and now he's far too deep in the shtick to drop it and go back to less popular less insane videos
>>16485491CO2/any greenhouse gas increases sea level, droughts, torrential rain and intensifies natural disasters. Droughts and torrential rain both are terrible for agriculture.This outweighs any possible benefit of a general increase in plant growth without even looking at any of the other stuff.
>>16486018There has been no statistically significant increase in storms.
So all this flight achieved was inspace relight?
>>16485642>emergency defibrillator in the control roomlol
>>16486024thats was the only new thing the flight was planned to donot much ambition in terms of goals, yes, but they say they still need to gather data about the basic stuff to make it as reliable as it needs to be.hopefully the next flight isnt too far away. although with the V2 starship they might just do a repeat again to see how the new aerodynamics and weight distribution control on re-entry. expect a slightly longer inspace burn and thats it.
>>16486024They also saw an assload of improvement in flap integrity, got data for leaving unshielded spots for the catch nubs, etc.
>>16486024re-entry stress test
burn through wouldn't be a problem if they just reduced the total surface area and simply used the saved material to make the problem areas thicker
>>16485729too much surface area confirmed
>>16486034the flight has ended, please go back to your containment boards already
Is there a list of potential 1st landing sites on Mars that SpaceX is looking at?
>>16485961Guess the retards were right then as SpaceX confirmed it was a tower issue
>>16486036the more surface area subject to contact with stressors or a reation, the more intense the effectfinely ground salt dissolves faster than coarse saltit's harder to break a short stick than a long stickif you want to mitigate that problem, simply reduce the overall surface area of your craft
>>16486046>retard uses 7 year old logic as a desperate attempt to prove he isn't a retard
>>16486046OK but you are a street shitting Indian. Not what?
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1859105213841354767Trump Musk alliance
>>16486052yeah
>>16486037They have 7 sites across Arcadia Planitia, Erebus Montes and Phlegra Montes
https://x.com/ShanaDiez/status/1859087802991825352>Definitely an evening to celebrate before diving into data and upgrades for flight 7 starting tomorrow.
>>16486052b-but everyone told me they were turning on each other!
>Starship went into 50 x 228 km orbit this flightThundercopes....We can no longer claim it never reached orbit!
>>16486059it has been proven long long ago that>everyoneis not a valid source
>>16486054All else being equal they gotta go with somewhere a little hilly rather than a flat plain for aesthetics
Scott's video on the flight is up
>>16486073Skid Markley
Did anyone else find it a little weird that the SpaceX twitter account and stream never mentioned the President-elect being there for the launch?
>>16486078They probably knew half their viewers would ragequit.
>>16486078I don't think they mentioned him and VP attending Crew Dragon Demo-2 either. Neither do they ever mention when Musk is attending in person. So.
I remember when skeptics were saying that heat shield was never going to work.
>>16485445Based coffin enjoyer
>>16486093I mean it "works" in that's its worse than Orion tier with whole rows peeling off, backed by a whole extra ablative layer and gods own metal alloy chassis. There is a ridiculous amount of work left to make it viable for proper reusability.
>>16486105I doubt they will ever reach a point there they won't need to refurbish the heat shield inbetween launches. The question is just how fast can they make the refurbishment time be.
>>16485592>V2 starships 50t payloadwhere did you get that number from? Spaceguy5?
>>16486115There is no way anyone is getting on starship for re entry until the heat shield situation is massively improved. And this is just LEO drama. Lunar return is way more fucked and martian entry is mega fucked.
>>16486123I mean, if anything this has shown just how fucking resiliant the design is even with the fucked up heatshield. Can lose half a flap from burn through and an ass ton of tiles and still make a controlled landing.
>>16485188aren't we all?
Did the booster even sink?
According to new leak on L2:- Starship v1 negative payload (can't reach orbit- v2: 30t to LEO- v3: 50t to LEOIf this is true, we are fucked.
We are going to Mars before the Decade is out
>>16486146Starship v1 went orbital yesterday faggot
>>16486148I like how MAGA hat is becoming a piece of formal attire
>>16486105its going to be the next priority after ship catch, they are going to get there
>>16485613>triangle texmexwhich triangle is that?the only triangle in Texas that I'm familiar with is I-35/I-10/I-45, and there isn't much mex in there
>>16486148>Go from "spam in a can" to landing onto another heavenly body in eight yearsHow the FUCK did they pull it off?
>>16485625SN9 was a baka
>>16486146Starship V2: 1488t to LEO. Fuck you, fuck spaceguy5, fuck CSS, fuck pressure fed astronaut, and fuck thunderf00t
>>16485645they don't number them in launch order, there were two SN7 and they weren't even launched
>>16485724>mach diamonds don't make him diamondsok low-T
>>16486159total SLS cancellation
>>16485902and people say Elon can't keep to a schedule
Muskrats should throw themselves into volcanos
>>16485642>My feet hurt>Rocket was loud>Wish I was at home playing golf
>>16486192name a single volcano you philistine
expendable flaps
>>16486204Stromboli
>>16486204Olympus Mons
>>16485815>Starbase is costing 1.5 billions per yearSource?
hyperloop wasn't even a bad idea
>>16486229You can extrapolate this from salaries alone
>>16486204The Vesuvius.
>>16486054Isn't arcadia plantia a little far north to be viable for an initial mars colony? I would think a better place would be northern hellas crater.
>>16486230its going to happen too, just need to iterate a bit on the boring machine still and then start mass producing themthey are getting pretty close I think
>>16486232You could've just said you don't have a source.
>>16486239and I mean of course they need to actually develop the Hyperloop itself after they solve cheap tunnel boring, but as thunderfoot keeps saying, this is not a new ideaand handmer says it should work, the problem is the tunneling cost
Launch muskovites into the sun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCL27BkuRQY>Trump attends SpaceX launch with Elon Musk, vows to lead in space exploration
>>16486241>as thunderfoot keeps saying, this is not a new ideaIs there anyone else working on it?
>>16486154it's still good, regardless of however much of a snob you want to be about muh authentic mexican cuisine. i'd just note that actual mexicans claim that the food in northern mexico counts as authentically mexican either, so it seems like a silly thing to get hung up on.
>>16485815>1.5 billionsstay mad, you ESL retardspace is american
>>16486259there was but I think most or all of them are bankrupt nowbut he keeps bringing up vactrains from 1900 or something
>>16485815Now talk to us about the four billion per year Boeing is spending to send a one way capsule every four years on a SpaceX rocket.
>>16486263Right. I’ve never watched this thunder foot cunt, but he sounds like a bitchy woman.
how quickly is SLS going to get nuked after the 20th?
>>16486260>muh authentic mexican cuisineEthnic food is shit until it’s been Americanized.
So now they’ve kicked the can even further down the road for first pressurized cargo and first permanent manned structure.Waiting until Artemis VIII is crazy
>>16486229it was in a court document filed by spacex for some direct to cell lawsuit by AST telecom
>>16486271Do you have a link to this document?
>>16486270this is going to get overhauled
>>16486273It's a trivial internet lookup. Try multiplying 4M$ for each day in a year.
>>16486281In other words you don't have a source
>>16486285In other words you're a retard
>>16486286Why do people without a source always try to pull the "it's just a google search!" card? Who do you think you're fooling? If you actually had a link you'd just copypaste it, much easier than getting into this argument. The only reason anyone ever has for not providing a source link when asked is that they don't have one.
>>16485628lol. prime example of journos thinking they know everything about any subject they happen to write about.
>>16486288because it was literally a google search away"spacex 4 million a day starbase ats lawsuit"https://x.com/ZhanPoasts/status/1844845622496509969
>>16486295Now the retard will say he was merely pretending being one.
>>16486295See, was that so hard? Could've saved yourself some sweat by just linking that when asked instead of sperging out.
Do you guys pronounce it "We Gain" or "Moo Ham"?
>>16486249>maga base now pro spaceflight Elon you genius
Tower triggered abort
>>16485729The payload bad was bad but the tank only got lightly wrinkled. In that case it's easy, just put the tiles back on in the unpressurized section (it's shorter on v2) and mount the catch pins on the tank. Yes it'll be a retrofit but so will be removing the tiles from S33.
>>16486303its "veh khan" in dutch, theres no "moo"
>>16486295why the fuck didn't you post that in the first place?
>>16485898He thinks 1 total flights is as likely as 2 or more total flights.This is the same as 0 remaining flights being as likely as 1 or more remaining flights.This is the same as there being 50/50 odds of a next flight.
>>16486321either it flies or it doesn't
>>16486314If it was bad then it would shit itself during reentry, max q or landing burn.
>no door test since IFT-3Explain this, spacesexers
>>16485900So are they abandoning solar panels in favor of fuel cells a la Apollo and Shuttle?Makes sense I guess considering the limited lunar south pole sunlight
>>16486327First door test was a total success
>>16485135Would a launchpad on the falkland islands work?
>>16486333It wasn't, though.
>>16485686wow a smart person on /sci/???
>>16486327Next flight will do it
>>16486123>europe hours>retard opinionFixing the TPS tiles is about making the vehicle capable of rapid reuse. It's already capable of reentry.
>>16486327the priority is catching booster and shipmaybe they look at getting payload to orbit after that but musk said the priority is getting rapidly reusable and reliable heat shield tiles going, so not sure perhaps the heat shield dev can be done in parallell if they can catch both the ship and booster and then they can start doing payload deployments + heatshield dev at the same time
>>16486146>concern troll has concernsgo fuck yourself
Did you guys know that nasa did a study on something called HOPE which was a plan for a manned mission to the moons of jupiter?
>>16486348
>>16486349
>>16486350
>>16486353
mp4's can be posted on 4chan now
>>16486327Building doors isn't the hard partSomeone in SpaceX is confident they can build a door
>>16486356
>>16486353why are these fake groups making paper exploration plans so concerned with "radiation exposure"
>>16486311stupid towershould have used the elon/trump override
>>16486358proofs?
>>16486358There's probably some gay 2mb file size limit, though, right?
>>16486362Well cause most of the jovian moons have enough radiation exposure to kill an unshielded human instantly.
>>16486366They can die there then, wouldn't that be wonderful
>>16486366shield the humans thenor use it for free euthanasiaI'm not seeing a problem here
>>16486360Heres the full pdf
>>16486358just trieddoesn't work
>>16486364>>16486365>>16486377You have to disable 4chanx
>>164863656MB, max duration at least 340 seconds, sound included, in /wsg/>>16486380>You have to disable 4chanxNo? Works fine for me.
Can I sex the prop depot? Holy fuck that is hot.
>>16486261Your shithole is relevant in space because of a african LMAO
>>16486348why is it that NASA can always talk about settling callisto, titan, neptune, alpha centauri, etc etc, never deliver on absolutely anything, and nobody complains. yet, when spacex posts one single render of a mars landing, they call it a scam??? nasa BUSTED when?
>>16486381didn't work for a lot of people, are you using the extension or the tampermonkey script?
>>16486054this could have changed, we dont know. havent heard from Wooster in a long time, but if theyre serious about 2026 we should be getting details soon
>>16486385NASA doesn't "do" anything, they just hire contractorsOld space defense contractors who have to start from scratch each time because they don't do anything that isn't directly paid for
>>16486370Imagine compromising on usable payload just to let a femoid be a part of it.
>>16486321this is extremely prophetic
>>16486386>tampermonkey script4chanx on tampermonkey, but for me only playback works with 4chanx; upload gives unsupported file type.
where is that anon that lost $600 gambling? also wheres the drunkard?
>>16486382ships passing in the night
>>16486398its over
>>16486398im a drunkard, maybe not THE drunkard. been drinking since the launch yesterday. you called?
>>16486406You need to fucking quit the beer.
>>16486359Can the door handle rentry?
Fuck I wish it was one massive window but this is also cool as shit. The small windows give me passenger plane vibes.
>>16486386>>16486395 (me)>upload gives unsupported file typefix is to update QR in the script, see /wsg/ mp4 test thread
>>164864304chanx already updated on beta for MP4 but it has issues on firefox
>>16486280>EnoughMuskSpam>Spams Musk
>>16486424I haven’t done the math but I bet those windows are bigger than the full cross sectional area of the LM
>>16486280>not even a reddit screencap>a repost of a reddit screencap previously posted on reddithow many levels of reddit human centipede is this website on and how many more before the jannies wake up and enact the nuclear option on you newniggers
Has Trump talked about IFT-6 yet?
>>16486424since these will never have to enter the atmosphere, I wish they had put some leg covers like the ones on the ITS
>>16486442Mental illness
Next flight is not this year I assume?
>>16486455flight 5 to 6 was only 37 days so it’s possible, but clearly not happening.
>>16486455either january or february
>>16486455unlikely due to a new license being needed
>>16486461Pete Buttigieg likes Musk now so he’ll make sure the license process is streamlined.
>>16486418shan't.
>>16486463its still going to take time, the new political situation just means they aren't going to slow it down on purpose anymoredoesn't mean that the FAA isn't slow or incompetent independently of politically induced feet draggingSpaceX can't really apply for the license before they actually know what modifications they are going to make and when they do that starts the process (which could take like a month? not really sure what the FAA is capable of if they actually try)
https://x.com/AndrewParsonson/status/1859218568522403928https://europeanspaceflight.com/esa-publishes-call-for-reusable-rocket-with-60-tonne-payload-capacity/
>>16486472>doesn't mean that the FAA isn't slow or incompetent independently of politically induced feet draggingI see, then we must remove the FAA entirely.Yes, from the Earth.
>>16486478it’s at the top of DOGE’s list of agencies to gut.
>>16486474i'm a euro and i'm so fucking sick of this shitthe time for studies was back when falcon was attempting to perfect their ability to re-use back in 2018, the time to act and fund a goddamn rocket is now.
Astronaut > CosmonautBUT…Cosmodrome > Space Port
>>16486330>So are they abandoning solar panels in favor of fuel cells a la Apollo and Shuttle?no the consensus is that the solar panels are still there, but they are stowed away in the new renders. in same renders you can see that there are panels that closed where the solar panels would be. sometime during the mission the panels would open up and the solar panels would come out. that said i think they could still have fuel cells too but its too early to say.
>>16486487>there are panels that closedthere are panels that ARE* closed
you don't need solar panels until you are landed on the moon and staying for a while
>>16486474>Commission a studyThey do that all the time, it leads to nothing but paper rockets.
https://x.com/FAANews/status/1859255191595274434https://www.faa.gov/space/stakeholder_engagement/spacex_starship
>>16486474>commission a studyhow about just fucking do it?
>>16486474>60 tonsPafuckingthetic. Yuros should be ashamed.
>>16486497https://www.faa.gov/media/87646the pdf is too big to post as a file
>>16486484I really like the image that “gateway to mars” invokes.
>>16486481FAA is necessary for on earth flight, theyve been doing a shit job of it with that recent Boeing fuckery where they basically delegated their jobs to them to self regulat but still necessary. It definelty shouldnt be handling spaceflight though.
>>16486499>>16486500>>16486493it'll be the same conclusion tooyou can't reduce costs by paying contractors to somehow reduce their own incomeyou need lots of launches they don't intend to doHell the whole guyana launch site shit probably makes absolutely no sense either
>>16486497they bent the knee?
>>16486503I guess this means they are getting the number of launches increased?
>>1648650060 tons is a good size, you can get a lot done with that.
>>16486497Will we top this meme?>>>/wsg/5738850
>>16486511
>>16486514this bitch needs to be shipped back to mexico
>>16486512Thats fucking gay and the most advanced CONTINENT in the world doesnt even aspire to match a single company in America that just showed you can do much higher loads fine.
>>16486518>most advanced CONTINENT in the worldWhen your presuppositions are false I can see why you would be disappointed. Consider also that only a half dozen different rockets have ever been built that surpassed that number.
>>16486515>only 3 night time launches>only 3 night time landings and must be in waterNOOOOOOOO WHAT THE FUCK MAN
Why didn't thunderf00t stream the launch? I wanted to hear someone blasting yesterday's nonsense.
>>16486503Are you ready for Starships landing next to South America?
>>16486497>public meetingsOh God, I'm getting flashbacks
>>16486507ESA is hamstrung by being 2-3 weapons manufacturers per member country having to put in their parts.And that will never change. Entire thing was always a "let's keep rocket know-how alive" program like the ISS was to ex-Soviet.
>>16486503>Starship landing with 101 Megaton residual propellantIt's over.
>>16486522I get it, no sonic booms at 3am.if the launch window absolutely requires it you can launch at night but don’t make it a habit for starlink or refueling flights.
>>16486530I said that banana was too heavy and they didn't have enough fuel for catch.
>>16485770It hit the water at at least 12~15mphCatch abort was the right choice.
>>16486530>basically just confirmed that spacex's payload is over 100 tonspayload schizo's BTFO.
>>16486515>90 seconds of Starship static fire tests per yearThat sounds extremely low, unless they're just done having to static fire each Starship prior to launch.
>upgraded super heavy>35 enginesDid we know that
>>16486539100 tons is just the start
we cant even imagine what 2040 starships will look like. v3 is coming in probably 2026, sure there will be less updates but i imagine with the increasing radius size we will see more updates than falcon 9 got, which had 6 blocks. id say we could get a V10 starship so that elon can call it VX.
>>16486550no “block” of starship will increase the diameter because that would mean replacing all of the infrastructure for building and launching them.the fatter rocket will be its own thing.
>>16486545>>16486539>>16486530alright so confirmed it has 100 tons of payload to orbit, no more bitching and whining.
>>16486552>yeah this new rocket that looks identical to starship but is slightly wider is actually a brand new rocketyou do know that they literally confirmed they will be increasing the diameter right? fucking dolt
>>16486544Yeah Elon waffles on constantly though so I don't blame you for missing it
>18m galaxy ship
>>16486555>yeah so this scaled up falcon 1 with 9 additional merlins and no kestrel is actually a brand new rocketdo spacex actually expect us to believe this?
>>16486556>wafflesbr*tsh
>>16486561so youre gonna call v3 and below starships something like starship 35? are you braindead? theyre just going to call them both starship you fucking idiot.
>>16486562>>wafflesD*tch
>>16486334Corridor wise maybe but you're not hitting a good inclination without a hard dogleg. Just keep sailing up the coast to Alcantara if your rocket is already on a boat.
>>16486564>d*tchoh its the retarded schizo. take your fucking meds.
>>16486399That's daylight
>>16486497>please let us know what you think>oh no, we can't let spacex launch, we are too busy reading what people think!the yandere-dev gambit
>>16486420I don't think they're going to put the door in the middle of the heat shield, mate
>>16486463>Pete Buttigieg likes Musk nowI don't want to know how that happenedYuck!
>>16486568not for long>>16486567nah, you dont know me.
>>16486570You could if you wanted to. Just trying to correct the record here because seemingly half of /sfg/ doesn’t realize the shuttle had landing gear doors ON THE TPS and big gemini planned on having a docking door in the middle of its heat shield ass. And energia II was going to have an entire hinged nose cone with half the door thermally tiled.SS could have clamshell doors with parts of it going into the black TPS
>>16486576>the shuttle had landing gear doors ON THE TPSDidn't that almost doom Discovery that one time?
>>16486484Astrodrome
>>164865502040 is only 15 years away. its a long time but i dont expect radical changes to the core starship design at this point. though i think we will see a wide diversity of starship types just like you see with aircraft. like a 737 aircraft doesnt only have a passenger version, but also cargo, scientific, and military versions.
>>16485680blame Belgian printers in the time of Gutenberg
>people think IFT-6 was a letdown compared to IFT-5yeah super heavy getting caught was a huge milestone but orbital re-light and starship landing intact are very important, just not as flashy. IFT-6 basically completed what IFT-5 couldnt. and now IFT-7 will follow in both of their footsteps.
https://spacenews.com/exolaunch-to-deploy-satellites-with-new-universal-adapter-in-2026/
>>16486585orbital relight is trivial.... they did fucking landings before
>>16486587it's really not trivial at all
>>16486586What happens to all these orbital tugs once they've jettisoned all the cubesats and picosats and microsats and whatever else?
It's not that easy in rocketry.
>>16486590it was just a box they had to check. It would have succeeded on flight 4 or 5 had they decided to try it.
>>16486500Why bother? It'd be like being embarrassed that the clown has faceplanted into a pie, it's just expected behaviour.
>>16486523It was midnight, he's old and was probably sleeping
>>16485944Orange man want home
>>16486596dealing with fuel in 0 gravity is one of the hardest problems in rocketry
>>16486587>>16486596You're a board tourist who thinks lighting an engine in free fall is the same as lighting it in an inertial frame
>>16486554Nothing was confirmed
>>16486603Elon is one of the board tourists.https://youtu.be/InJOlT6WdHc?t=177329:33
>>16486564is this guy still obsessing over the dutch?
>>16486585IFT-6 is to IFT-5 what IFT-4 was to IFT-3.
>>16486603?A little kick from RCS would settle enough fuel to start engines
>>16486613More like you confirmed yourself a retard twice by hearing "Raptor relight works" and inserting your own view over that. You don't need to waste your time deliberately misinterpreting an interview when you could simply inquire the physics of what's different and why SpaceX chose to specifically test orbital relight.
>>16486629Correct take.
>post IFT /sfg/imagine discovering something yesterday and immediately arguing about it with seasoned hobbyists
>>16486633Its a tick box that needs to be ticked off, since this was the first time a raptor engine was in orbit. Obviously it's a trivial thing, which is why it was only tested once
>>16486621no idea. i just saw 'waffle' and thought they would be better associated with Holland.
>>16486573Did you just forget? It was like a month ago that Musk called Buttjudge up in regards to deploying Starlink to hurricane victims in NC, then cleverly used that phone call to bitch about the FAA stalling Starship. It was only a day or so after that call that the FAA issued licenses for flights 5 and 6 simultaneously.Seriously it's been like 30 days, how did you already forget what JUST HAPPENED?
>>16486576>we designed it wrong as a jokeshuttle is the Wimp Lo of spacecraft
>IFT>IFT>IFTThey’ve been called “flight” since what, flight 3?
>>16486633What are you bitching about? This is the site that is basically dedicated only to seasoned hobbyists. If you want to learn from us then you better be prepared for this.
>>16486649It will always be IFT in my mind>>16486655>>16486633I think you both misread the post lol
>>16486649Well then you should start forcing the naming convention on us. Be the change you want to see. Guess why we dont use OFT anymore, when it was still IFT? Thats right one autistic anon kept calling out anyone who said OFT to break the habit. I specifically remember him sperging out about it.
>>16486628One of the failures showed that the autogenous pressurization shitting where it eats is another major complication which I'm not sure they've even fully worked out yet, but also what even is the ullage motor setup on Starship? Last I knew, which is very outdated, they were using a halfway solution of borrowed cold gas thrusters with low capacity
>>16486587>>16486585Booster catch is not a payable milestone for HLS anon. Raptor relight in orbit is. With it successful in IFT-6, NASA will now cut them a double digit million dollar check. Which would easily offset the build costs of the last 5 IFTs.
>>16486657that’s what I’m doing.
>>16486666Youre not doing it aggresively enough.
>>16486382BLACKED
>>16486669BLUED
>>16486668ok I’m sorry>>16486664They’re called flights jackass
>>16486382NO
>>16486676>>16486669You are both bad and you should feel bad.
>>16486678Forcing Koharu to watch in-flight fuel transfer in class while she tries to suppress her animalistic urges
>>16486685You need to kys
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1859297019891781652lol, ceramic shielding might be overthey really don't give a shit about sunk costs at spacex do they
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1859296375113961850
>>16486497https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1859296740978946348https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/11/spacex-just-got-exactly-what-it-wanted-from-the-faa-for-texas-starship-launches/
>>16486692>>16486515>In a draft version of what is known as an "Environmental Assessment," the FAA indicated that it will grant SpaceX permission to increase the number of Starship launches in South Texas to 25 per year from the current limit of five. Additionally, the company will likely be allowed to continue increasing the size and power of the Super Heavy booster stage and Starship upper stage.
>>16486645No, I recall that. Do you know what changed Petey's attitude?
NASA&ESA&JAXA&ROSCOSMOS should all be about doing exploration and science, they should outsource the rocket part to companies like spaceX and other competitors.
>>16486692still just a draft thoughopen to comment until January and multiple meetings planned
https://x.com/TheOldManPar/status/1859272021953180163as expected, no investigation necessary for Flight 6
>>16486649I’m pretty certain every flight has had a different naming convention so far lol
>>16486699yeah, though I doubt that is going to affect anythingits just going to be more autistic screeching like >>16486514
>>16486700Flight 7 needs a modification for new version of Starship and flight profile??
>>16486700https://x.com/BCCarCounters/status/1859299913718231300another source for the same thing
it's going to be 4 months before the next flight and the FAA will have nothing to do with it
>>16486704probably, I think it would be unprecedented if it didn't with the current regulatory framework
when's SpaceX gonna build their own LOX generation facility? With increased cadence they're gonna need it
>>16486686Hmm don't feel like it, maybe you're projecting those thoughts
>>16486696No clue, it's a mystery to me too. Maybe he just wasn't in the room when the current admin decided to fuck over SpaceX, and so when he became aware of the FAA fuckery he decided to do something about it?Probably not, but that's all I can guess.
>3/6 reentry attempts survived>1/2 catch attempts succeeded"50/50 it happens or it doesn't" bros.... we won
>>16486700Booster catching is extra at this point, it was like this with F9 at first too, but now booster landing is part of the mission profile.
>>16486713Kek
>>16486709I could have sworn they already keep a shitton of LOX on hand. It's not like it's hard, methane is easy too for that matter but they could do their own test run for ISRU
>>16486706March isn’t so bad but I hope we get February.
>>16486713>no matter what it will be 1/3 and 2/3s odds after next flight50/50 bros, it's completely over
>>16486718Yeah, but trucking it is going to be bottleneck at some point
>>16486718they do but they're a huge buyer of LOXsupposedly the now canceled land swap was gonna be to build a LOX plant near starbase
>>16486724they should switch to homemade lox asap. cheaper to feed growing rockets that way
>>16486692>>16486700>>16486705great follow up news from yesterday then
GUYS! PFA is making a video ABOUT the last TWO staraship test FLIGHTS!
>>16486730See >>16486704, tard
so did they ever get everyone that wasn't SpaceX forced out of starbase/Boca chica village?
>>16486731Quite literally, who? (don’t answer none of us care)
>>16486731who?
>new hls & artemis info>new mexico getting starlink access for 95k peopleim still surprised that these items didnt get much discussion amongst the spaceflight community. feels like most people popped in for the starship launch then dipped out.
>>16485642This is the best timeline
>>16486738No shit. And thats a good thing I dont want fuckheads ruining /sfg/. Nobody even posted about these things anyways.
>>16485642trump looked very tired and clocked out the whole timenot his usual energy
>>16486736>>16486737PFA GUYS
>>16486737>>16486736pressure fed astronaut, a dude working for Lockheed (I think) with EDS that has made starship post flight analysis videos, basically "debunking" starshipthe seething has been getting gradually worse with each video, it was pretty explicit in the IFT/FLIGHT 4 video
>>16486687ITERATION BABY ITERATION
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1859305986760245641>Lost comms to the launch tower computer. Catch would probably still have worked, but we weren't sure, so erred on the side of caution.
>>16486692https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1859309357638484475
how many ships and boosters are there already on the bottom of the ocean? 2 boosters and 3 ships? lmao, eco fags were right, thats lots of trash for nature
>>164867506,000,000 rare beetles were harmed by this post
>>16486677Cry me a river of methalOx you hydromeme retard.
>>16486751Literally free real estate, in fact probably the only or one of very few rockets that isn't horribly toxic to live on after splashdown
>>16486746Picking wax out of my ear is a better use of my time than watching that kind of crap.
>>16486757Why are you picking wax out of your ear? Use a specialized water syringe.
>>16486742If being a rich guy is part of his personal identity, then I bet the trip to Starbase was jarring. This guy is 100x richer than you, he's doing things way more important than building hotels, and his work will live on thousands of times longer than your own legacy. Trump wasn't the biggest guy in the room yesterday.
>>16486687if it don't work it don't workThats a big chunk of why old space wastes so much money, they design their vehicles before they even start constructionhow's that going to work if you don't know what you are doing?
>>16486738It's because we've exhausted that topic to death already, I doubt you'd find any /sfg/ regular that doesn't know about the domestic internet connectivity grant from the FCC that Starlink didn't win and has turned out to be a massive waste of govt. money. That NM comment during the broadcast was a subtle jab at that, in the same vein that Starlink connectivity during the hurricane was.
>>16486750you can't see underwater beetles on the camera..
>>16486769He certainly wouldve felt out of place, but he was definetly the biggest man in the room. He has the power to accelerate their development. Kennedy is famous for his patronage of space development, people know him more than Von Braun when it comes to normie space knowledge. Trump could also be the one to shut it all down if he pleases (he wouldnt). I think he knows if he wants a legacy though that the tried and true method of doing so is supporting spaceflight efforts.
>>16486783GLUCK GLUCK GLUCK GLUCK GLUCK
>>16485642>>16486742>>16486783Trump understood things on a basic level, but what was likely illustrated to him and his administration is the value in unlocking the path. He will largely be remembered for all the bad shit he's done over the decades, but that's only if he doesn't unlock the path. If he tears down all the potential barriers for SpaceX and Tesla to really become intrasolar juggernauts, all the bad shit he's done over the decades will be completely eclipsed as him going down in the history that helped humanity become multiplanetary and made large scale autonomy possible. That's grasping onto a torch of legacy bigger than just about any other president for generations to come. Which I think he may have internalized from his time at Starbase.
>>16486769>his work will live on thousands of times longer than your own legacyone of them is the president of the US and it isn’t elon. I don’t think trump felt like the smaller man there.
>NOOOOO TRUMP WAS THE BIGGEST GUY THERE! ILL FIGHT YOU OVER THISThis is a new low /sfg/. Have some dignity
>>16486788>youre sucking off drumpft because you correctly point out he has the power to start a global nuclear holocaust
>>16486792presidents come and go, nobody is going to remember biden
>>16486794you think so?
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1859312617803948418
>>16486794Dunderf00t brainlet detected
>>16486783>>16486792Elon will carry life itself to another planet. He'll be remembered in some form as we spread through the stars. Trump won't make it past Alpha Centauri
>>16486800What? It's just pathetic to get in an internet argument about which guy felt like a bigger man at an event. They don't know you, you weren't there, it's just incredibly cringey roleplay
what happened to banana decal??
>>16486801>MUH INTERSTELLAR!!!! >MUH THOUSAND YEAR LEGACY!!!!Holy shit kek
>>16486803Too many people are glazing this unfortunately shitty mock-up
>>16486807Where do you think you are?
>>16486685
>>16486806I ated it
>>16486808>glazingReddit speak
>>16486808What don’t you like about it?
>>16486711Buttchug has been catastrophically incompetent at every other aspect of his job.
>>16486748glad we got confirmation and that they found a new mode of failure
>>16486748so black rocket man was correct
>>16486748The ship the booster and the tower are all outdated. Fuck caution—SEND THAT SHIT NEXT TIME
>>16486828but that would increase the whining from the public
Do you think we will see a V3 ship or booster in 2025?
>>16486828>just bomb brownsville brogreat plan.
>>16486782its not the beetles we lost....its the beetles we made along the way
>>16486748Why did they say the tower was GO before the abort then? Did they not immediately notice?
>>16486830Yes 100%, it’s unironically going to he order(s) of magnitude of growth now. We shifted into the good timeline. You may even get tired of winning etc.
>>16486830No.
>>16486833maybe the hosts got confused or misheard, I don't think this would be the first time
>>16486834aren't they just switching to v2 now? v3 2026 is a little more realistic
>>16486834Dont listen to this anon hes delusional
>>16486830>seeyes>see flyno, probably not
>>16486834>You may even get tired of winningNot until I'm standing on Mars watching Starships launch towards Saturn will I even CONSIDER becoming tired.
Hopefully it never blows up before liftoff. That'd fucking suck
>>16486837>>16486838Alright fine I’ll amend my projected probability. Its now 50/50
25 launch per year approvedMetallic heatshied with thin liquid cooling back on the tableDiablo 4 pit finished under 2 min (record?)Tower antenna damage caused team to abort the catch out of caution Cybertruck and optimum robot for first Mars landing.What else?
Wish he would've got obsessed with a game that wasn't shit desu
>>16486844>Tower antenna damageWhat caused that? It didn't look like anything clipped the town.
>>16486846vibrations probably
>>16486842its inevitable
>>16486846The booster's haki was too strong
>>16486844I wonder if they have looked into Stokes design
>>16485939
>>16486692>the vehicle presence will grow from an estimated 6,000 trucks a year to 23,771 trucks annually65 trucks each day
>>16486846the engines
>>16486855Got a fucking problem??
>>16486855one about every 20 minutes
>>16486713there have only been 3 reentry attempts, you're retarded.
>>16486855Doable. Especially easy if you run like 10-15 trucks and they refuel ~1 to 1.5 hrs away from the site. And alleviated by doing on-site production of oxidizer
>>16486855Make TrainX, build a railway, and have trains do it instead.
>>16486855Sounds like they need some pipelines
>>16486858no, but the logistics for this are probably going to be "fun"
>>16486864They will have to do that eventually because I don't see how it's going to be sustainable.
>>16486863you just need a pipeline from whatever ports are in brownsville
>>16486807yeah what the other guy said, where the fuck do you think you are?elon and trump's arrangement is quite mutually beneficial, but there's no doubt as to who the more important man is. builders of things tend to get remembered more than the politicians that were around when those things were built, even if they removed roadblocks.
>>16486864>>16486863
>>16486748that's an interesting failure mode desu, and one completely unique to the starship architecture.
>>16486864They're already thinking of running a water pipe for the deluge system, might as well add some gas pipes for NG and O2 for onsite condensation
>>16486846they just got scared. who wouldn't with the that booster coming towards you at mach 3? They'll get used to it.
> 'Presidents are ephemeral' the catamite smirked
>>16486874>who wouldn't with the that booster coming towards you at mach 3?Me, I fear no rogget.
>>16486691Does that make Elon the Wormtongue to Trump's Denethor?
>>16486879it means elon is the morty to trump’s rick
>>16486879Use capeshit or Harry Potter for the analogies please
>>16486879Theoden, rather
>>16486877Those old SF and test flight streams kept me sane during lockdown, glad to see similar shots again
>>16486879more like the Boy Wonder to the Caped Crusader
>>16486863combining train autism with starship autism would be dangerously based.
>>16486873onsite 02 is already in the plans (air separation unit)
>>16486876how many people know the first man who walked on the moon? how many know who was the president when that happened? exactly
>>16486890They are really putting every piece of important infrastructure inside this tiny space.
How long until they build one of these?
>>16486718They use a LOT of lox. Like, an insane amount
>>16486897Begone gaming loser
>>16486896getting permits for a cryogenic pipe from starfactory would probably be more difficult than building the air separation unit right there
New updates on Haven-1>https://x.com/vast/status/1859325802703355940>The team is making progress on the final welding stages of the Haven-1 qualification primary structure at Vast HQ.
>>16486896It's a good idea. Just got to make sure they don't accidentally destroy it later.
>>16486901they could fit a bigger one at starfactory thoughever
>>16486902Looks like the rear part of the station that will feature the airlock and docking system.
>>16486902What's the use case for their station?
>>16486889Reminder that Mars won't be constrained by Earth rail standards, or an atmosphere, or full gravity, or existing structures/zoning. What Mars will have, is a surplus of 9m wide steel tubes. We will see 9m wide high speed trains going in perfectly straight lines longer than most countries are wide.
>>16486810God the 2021 hls downselection is still so crazy to me.It could have so easily been the shitty v1 National Team lander. Or ALPACA. This was a huge decision and thought it’s the one I wanted, it wasn’t the one any of us expected. Watching the decision on livestream felt surreal
>>16486907Orbital yoga studio
>>16486876What the fuck. I'm obsessed with this shit, why didn't I know it was Nixon
>>16486910>or Alpaca>Seerocketprinciples.jpglol no
>>16486810>elevator jams
@BlueOrigin>Here we go—and our fully integrated launch vehicle is rolling out for its upcoming hotfire! #NewGlenn
>>16486917Seriously, what the fuck do they then?
>>16486918Why are these dudes slower than ULA?
>>16486914To be honest no one knew how incompetent other choices were before starship was chosen.
>>16486917>>16486920Kick it once or twice, it'll work.
>>16486918inb4 it EXPLODEEZ NUTSXD
>>16486920I'm sure they'll have an extendable ladder stored inside for emergency use.
>>16486920use elevator nr2
>>16486922Is their first proper rocket and it's quite ambitious one for old space standards.
>>16486918>hotfire
https://x.com/blueorigin/status/1859327479548125432>Here we go—and our fully integrated launch vehicle is rolling out for its upcoming hotfire! #NewGlennNew Glenn hotfire coming up
>>16486908i was imagining something like the razortrains from HL2 but scaled up 5x
>>16486920it's 1/6th gravity, you just need a pulley
>>16486927It'll probably be something stores in parts ready for in ship assembly, the idea of it just being some kind of rope ladder would give the astronaut office nightmares
>>16486518Most advanced nanny state conglomerate in the world. Professional bureaucrats, welfare distribution, third world importation. Good at imprisoning your own citizens for daring to question any of it. You guys should really be killing politicians, they don't fear you
>>16486931I hope New Glenn’s hotfire goes well!So that it may explode later
>>16486514>latina>in the usa
>>16486892His name will be on the Apollos 11 & 17 landing stage for millennia, where will yours be then?
>>16486932>ywn drive a train with an internal volume larger than most Earth cities through the nuked out remains of geological features moved to lay down track
>>16486931America can't stop winning.
>>16486892...Everyone?
>>16486907>What's the use case for their station?people generally want a destination when they go to space and that includes space stations. so that's their use case...create something that will lure in potential customers.
>>16486960lol please
>>16486907They are now the only company with a realistic chance of replacing the ISS
>>16486879He is the Theophobe to Trump's Theophile
>>16486907Hotel rentalScientific lab rentalTool deploymentExperimental lab
>>16486965>pleaseNo.
>>16486609its more evidence of favor 100 tonnes to LEO then whatever spaceguy5 has for 30 tonnes to LEO for V2 (none)
>>16486931America could potentially have the first four reusable launch vehicles.
>>16486931They're just gonna hotfire it in that hanger? Those people around it seem a bit too close too.
https://x.com/whoisheartbreak/status/1859341925402411092
https://x.com/FriendEden100/status/1859203673110307261You worship a con
>>16486982The tree of freedom is watered with the blood of patriots
>>16486985he doesnt understand that sorta low iq question
>>16485748>I'm a single issue voter (the issue being spaceflight)literally me
https://x.com/StevenCheung/status/1859010438308192698
>>16486985Elon was probably stuck between the autistic but correct answer of yes it’s controlled by a human because it ultimately relies on human inputs vs the understood answer of no it’s computer controlled because there’s no human on board and didn’t know what to say
>>16486985>>16486988>>16486995the quote is just made up. He answered "entirely by computer"
>>16485740I'm just sick of the manufactured hype for it like it isnt bean and rice slop. Its all to push multiculturalism and I've had enough.
>>16486750What about the seals, elon? What about the psychological trauma they suffered???>there are no seals in the gulf of mexicoHE KILLED THEM ALL :((((
>>16486933Anybody can lift themselves using a simple chain hoist even in Earth gravity. Mechanical advantage is a hell of a drug.
>>16486931Very cool
>>16486902>>16486907This Manned LEO is a meme
>>16486990Elon has really troubled some of my relationships. I've been saying I'm a spaceflight single issue voter for like 15 years, mostly as a joke, although it is true. Now being a vocal space guy is the same as being a vocal trump guy, which is very different from being a closeted trump guy
>>16486912>>16486963>>16486967>>16486970>>16486970All can be done cheaper and better with a StarShip. Pop up complete mission land.
>>16487011When people start whining about any political stuff that isn't spaceflight related, just tell them that you don't care. Then if they persist, give them the "are you actually stupid?" look.
>>16487011Grow up.
>>16487012Vast makes sense in the case where NASA deliberately spreads money around to create a healthy and varied space economy. SpaceX may be able to handle a bunch of the contracts they aren't given, and that's fine. >>16487019I'm here so obviously I have Asperger's, and you're telling me to contort my face on purpose? Best I can do is anime reactions>>16487021What's your problem faggot
SLS for Artemis II has activated its solid rocket booster expiration timer by beginning stacking segments.https://x.com/NASAKennedy/status/1859339638181085485
>>16487023Isn't it like 12 months they can sit before they have to be recycled?
>>16487023will it launch before SLS is scrapped?
>>16487027it is 12 months but i think it's just a big inspection, the timer starts when the first two SRB segments are joined
>>16487022>>I'm here so obviously I have Asperger's, and you're telling me to contort my face on purpose?Practice in the mirror, it's not too hard if you try
>>16487030they should add these mascots to each test flight so they are more memorable
>>16486853They should build a factory down by the coast then
>>16486890They seriously need to buy a couple of mini reactors to make fuel on site.
/sarcastic facialization general/
https://x.com/thejackbeyer/status/1859350085735448743ship 26 beheaded
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1859356661997060345
>>16487059>fine, you?>youFUCK I always forget that part because I don't care how their day went
>>16487059I'd like to unsubscribe from elon's twitter subscription.
>>16487012>All can be done cheaper and better with a StarShip. Pop up complete mission land.vast's permanent station has a starship diameter core module
comfy
>>16486550Forget starship after V5~6 by 2040 Elon will be making orbit-built colonial transports
>>16487075kind of cramped
>>16487075Live in the pod, eat the bugs, own nothing & reach the stars
>>16487075hmmmm maybe, maybe I LIKE to live in a pod
>>16487079For just storing your sleeping body it's fine, especially in 0g, but yeah it's a little cramped for most people. I'd be fine to hang out in there reading a book or whatever, but I'm not a very large human and don't get claustrophobic.
>>16487075where are my windows elon mustardd sirr
>>16487075Imagine the cramped sex, like in my school-setting doujins
>>16487075Is that the hls bunk mockup?
>>16486731literally who?
>>16487075>6 ft people can't go to the moonMidget bros, we won
>>16486746Who?
>>16487094The average human is 2 meters tall
>>16487075Disney Star Wars hotel looks rougher than I thought.
>>16487089No its just a pod hotel. Chances of some random anon getting to go in HLS, let alone fucking lay down in it, are zero.
>>16487098M*rtian fingers typed this post.
I told you retarded niggers they would go back to active cooling and was laughed at.
>>16487113nah the tiles are fineJust need more fussing around
>>16486970This anon is the only one that read my Vast update summaries I posted here from all that replied.
>>16487113They aren't going back to it though.
>>16487113>>16487115They need something to stop the warping
>>16487113Bold of you to assume I will not laugh at you even if you are correct.
Reminder that the banan and blumpft cursed flight 6 to failure
>Musk will begin 2025 by bombing Mexico with Starships
>>16487113>>16487115>>16487119My prediction is they will do active cooling on the most troublesome areas and tiles on most of the heatshield, and that will be good enough for rapid reuse
>>16485642Is that Trump's granddaughter Kai?
>>16487113how the fuck is active cooling going to work around the flaps
The reason they are considering going back to active cooling is because of the rapid part of the reuse. Those tiles are fantastic insulators, which also mean they get retard fucking hot and hold the heat for a long ass time. They can't be filling up the vehicle with cryo juice while it's jacketed by several hundred degree tiles.
>>16486742He's tired because he's old. You can see it in the golfing vid from the other month.Imagine the feat of willpower is takes to summon up High Energy day after day for rallying when you're 78 years old and just want to sleep.
Elon Musk is your absolute FAVORITE rockethero of all time.
>>16487128Yeah. Should have been baron instead
>>16487123based
>>16487131Is this bait or are you ‘tarded?I suspect both.
>>16487118Yeah and none of them explained why permeate Leo stations are cost effective.
>>16487136could have used barron as the launch tower
>>16487141Because NASA is paying for them. There's no other reason. Well, there's one other reason. If Jeff Bezos is paying for them.
>>16487131You could hold those tiles with your hands after reentry dumbass.
>>16487123tag:xray
>>16487075what a gyp
>starship more robust than towerWhat a weird timeline
>>16487094Manlet bros, we literally cannot stop winning!
Bleed off the heat via heatshield + light liquid cooling from underneath
>>16487162Reminder that future spacefaring civilizations will select for their population being as small as possible while still being technically human
>>16487162>>16487165>spacefaring future civilization will be made up of lolis and shotas
>>16487156I like how it will only enter US airspace for like the last 10 seconds of its entire reentry lol
>>16487155>ywn hold 2000 degree pottery with your bare hands
>>16487136Barron prefers to work from the shadows
>>16486633imagine coming to /sfg/ and frogposting lmao couldn't be me
>>16486846Not sure if it's the damage in question, but the antenna/lighting rod at the top of the tower was clearly bent after liftoff. Not sure why this only happened not and not on Flight 5, possibly cumulative structural weakening?
>>16486260I didn't ask about the food, I asked what the fuck "triangle" means, since it's apparently not well known outside of wherever the fuck it is.
>>16487181I have a very hard time believing any important instruments not connected by wire.
>>1648710499% chance he downloaded it from twitter or some discord server.
>>16486985Someone should do a study where the experimenter fabricates an obvious lie about the content of a video, volunteers immediately watch the video, and they measure how many spot the lie. I bet the results would be blackpilling.
>>16487075only a fucking autist could design something so absolutely barren and uninspiredthat's not a bed chamber, it's a storage unit
>>16487183To clear up any confusion I am this anon >>16485603.I was saying “El Paso and NM cuisine are different than Texas triangle tex mex”Texas triangle is a region that encompasses Houston, San Antonio, and DFW
>plasma magnetoshell aerocapturejust generate an artifcial EMF to use as a heat shieldthere, I fixed your tile/active cooling problem by simply implementing more advanced technologygive me a job now
>>16487190Bachelor pads be like
>>16486985>EDS sufferer knows lefties won't actually watch the video
>>16487023The expiration timer starts when the second segment is stacked on the first, not when the first segment is placed.
>>16486751Flight 1: Booster and Ship blew up into tiny piecesFlight 2: booster blew up into tiny pieces over the gulf during boostback, ship blew up into tiny pieces over the atlantic at the end of first burnflight 3: booster blew up during landing burn over the gulf, ship broke up over the indian oceanflight 4: booster soft landed in gulf and was recovered from the sea floor, ship soft landed in indian ocean, not recoveredflight 5: booster caught and recovered, ship soft landed in indian ocean again, not recoveredflight 6: booster soft landed in gulf, still there, ship blah blah blah you knowso there's only one intact booster in the ocean right now and three intact shipsif you count starship confetti there's four boosters and six ships
Flight 7 when?I can't wait
>>16486920it's only a few dozen meters above the ground, you can just jump down and climb up
>>16487146kek
>EMF for radiation shielding in transit>EMF for entry heat shielding>EMF for propulsionabloo bloo bloo fund it RIGHT NOW
I've been trying to find this info somewhere, but I can't, does anyone know how much bandwidth a full-sized Starlink V2 has? The one they'll be launching from Starship, not the V2 minis
HOP WHN???
>>16487165so exactly 6 feet
>>16487242Before the holidays.
>>16487242After the holidays.
>>16487242>>16487246>>16487249During the holidays. Starship countdown set to new years eve countdown.
>>16487242someone please send that image to that CNBC journo, god it would be so funny, imagine the headlines
>>16487225>EMF for radiation shielding in transitWhy has this never been attempted before, even as an experiment? Literally solves radiation. Let me guess, you need a nuclear reactor to generate the electricity for it>>16486748Does anyone know why the antenna got bent this time but didn't last time? Did Superheavy point its raptors toward the tower later than it did last time?
>>16487252Or a starship with santa on his sled painted on it, send up on christmas eve.And with the joke "santa asked for some help this year to reach all the children on earth"
>>16486530>101 Megaton residual propellanthow many cubic kilometers is that?
>>16487255They will 100% leave out the part where it was the government which mandated the seal torture. In fact this might be why they've been ignoring the story so far.
>>16486497Roll the bones, bros, are we back?
>>16486913
>>16486399exchanging glances
>>16487075My body is ready to gaan.
>>16487075>no windowsIt's so fucking over. We will all live in ze pod
>>16487298Live in your pod hotels then thats not what Starship or Martian life will be since thats not HLS
>>16487301HLS renders have even MORE windows than Starship does wtf are you talking about kek
>>16487165hobbits (and lolis) will be the future of space
>>16487303starship will never have windows
>>16487165>>16487305sfg - short faggots general
>>16487193So I guess you meant the corners of the triangle, because the middle is kinda boring.I was thinking there might be some triangle down in RGV somewhere.
>>16487307>starship will never have windowsThen it will never have SOVL
vast
>>16487309Come down here and say that motherfucker
>Starlink Starship. Area = 294 m2 Mass = 2000 kgHolySheet
>>16487317Newspaces just keeps mogging oldspace at every aspect. Once private companies are allowed to play with nuclear engines, oldspace will literally dissolve
>>16487324Fuck off
>>16487319I won't because I can't kneel, bad knee.
>>16487323>Once private companies are allowed to play with nuclearI mean, lockheed and northrop can, even boeing was allowed to do so. you just have to be a "heritage" contractor, bro
>>16487321okay but that bandwidth figures please
>>16487324Don't fuck off
I'm going to try to get the original resolution of these images by trying different jpeg viewers
excuse me I meant pdf viewer because of my small brain
>>16487256Well, people have done it here on earth. At least that's what I'm assuming, considering we have proof of concept.As for implementation in space, IDK why this is so neglected. Yeah a reactor would probably be necessary to achieve sufficient coverage, though I can't rule out other methods. Don't know enough about it bth.
>>16487155The heat is absorbed internally, yes, so the outside remains just sort of warm to the touch and it radiates away super slowly. That's what you see in those NASA videos where they hand the tourists the red hot glowing brick to play with. It took hours and hours for the space shuttle tiles to cool down and they were thin wafers, not spacex bricks. What do you suppose happens to a fragile ceramic tile that is hot as hell inside when the pins holding it onto the ship are suddenly chilled to cryo temp? They will shatter off the ship in an absolute rain of fragments as you fill it up. This is why they are reconsidering metallic tiles and active cooling, because this whole ten thousand dinner plates pinned to your rocket business fucking sucks and they need something massively durable. Also these types of tile are not up to the task of mars entry so they have to ditch them anyway sooner or later.
>>16487337orbital strike against the cringe cards against humanity (decelerationists) plot of land
>>16487341what are you talking about
>>16487344Let him cook
>>16487344>he doesnt knowhello mr newfag. when did you arrive here?
>>16487339>these types of tile are not up to the task of mars entryI don't understand.Isn't Mars entry easier because it's "atmosphere" is less than 1% of Earth's?
>>16485867Fags baiting for (you) I don't get it either.
>>16486907It's like a New Shepard but you get to stay up longer.
>>16487339Shuttle tiles were even more bricklike, anon
>>16485902They need to cancel Artemis 2 the hell is the point other than a gay Apollo rehash.
>>16486931None of the 7 BE-4s can gimbal. Which means that for its landing profile, it will control itself entirely based on its strakes and fins. This will either work really well for something as massive as this or it's going to go up in a fireball.
>>16487352aerobraking always happens at the same atmospheric density, the only difference for different atmospheres is how far away from the surface that isMars braking is harder because it's faster and you need to shed speed faster due to the smaller radius of Mars
>>16487364you mean they need to cancel sls. artemis 2 is just a mission and can use different vehicles.
>>16486986and tyrants
>>16487075You can make a bed basically like a hammock, tie it from the top of the pod to the adjacent corner. Giving you an extra 1-2 feet of room. That would be very comfy, as instead of being limited by a horizontal axis, you will instead have flexibility across the Z and Y axis.
>>16487067/sfg/ is not subscription based>>16487075it's a bit small for a holodeckI wonder what you could do in a holodeck entirely while lying down
>>16486844>Cybertruck and optimum robot for first Mars landing.so when does the "live" dashcam feed of a robot in a hardhat (cowboy hat?) driving a cybertruck on Mars begin?
>>16487113transpiration is interesting, but I'm unclear how metal tiles would workwouldn't they just conduct the heat into the ship?obviously I'm missing something
>>16487162the grim reaper has trouble swinging that low
>>16487216are you riding on a boat shaped like a girl?
>>16486920Magnetic boots, walk down the side
>>16487256>Why has this never been attempted before, even as an experiment?It's been done in vacuum chambers on Earth. It's easier than you'd think, because the solar wind plasma becomes charge separated and greatly enhances the shielding.>Let me guess, you need a nuclear reactor to generate the electricity for itNot really, we just haven't gotten around to trying it in space because we're lazy.
>>16487190woman post
>>16487397>defending a soulless boxThe divine soul is the most sacred cargo a rocket can carry. We deserve better, and are capable of better. I've said it here before, no one has acknowledged the importance of human centric design when every second spent off Earth will exclusively be spent in a machine.
Really though, how long would it even take to refurbish the current heatshield? Literally just replace the missing and damaged heat tiles. Shouldn't take long.
I was thinking of making an animated series called 'gape canaveral'. It's a rocket themed trans hentai, I think it'd be pretty cool.
>>16487402Make it futa instead.
>>16487378MAGA hat... no wait, a MMGA hat
>>16487190you dress it up however you like, spazz, tapestries, flags, centerfolds, blacklight posters, pictures of the kids, whatever YOU want not what some industrial designer thinks everybody wants to see
starshipthegame.spacex.com is down
>>16487367Oh right, you need to slow down.And that's harder because the atmosphere of Mars is thinner.What I still don't get is why that's going to affect the tiles more than it would on Earth.Maybe I just don't need to get it.
>>16487409three dead Thinkpads,
>>16487402>>16487405basedfund it
nice
>>16487412it's not harder because the atmosphere of Mars is thinner because you can get any density you want out of the atmosphere by choosing a different height
>>16487428>you can get any density you want out of the atmosphere by choosing a different heightbut it definitely is harder to slow down enough for safe entry because the atmosphere is less than 1% of Earth's, that's why you need to do all that other gay shit you know about
>>16487414a bedroll, six and a half piss bottles, a stiff sock, and an HP laptop
>>16487429wrong, the Starship has shed more than 99% of its energy by the time it's into atmosphere that dense
are they doing any upgrades to the boca chica highway besides the electrical lines?
>I love the hustle and the bustle of the sleeping quarters deck! I call my pod the "Barcade" after my favorite place to unwind with a hoppy IPA back on Earth.
>>16487438This seems very inefficient
>>16487438why not stack them vertically like dominoes
>>16487256>>16487225I'm going to bring a plasma physicist on my team because we're going to try and use this tech for sure.
>>16487438this has to be the worst arrangement for protection against radiation toowtf?you want them in the middle with shit on the outer walls
>>16487438
https://x.com/raz_liu/status/1859435027706327084Chinese moon lander prototype
>>16487449I can't believe the fucking chinese copied my Mun lander design
>>16487449apollo is that you?
>>16487449looks a bit small
In theory if starship can deliver 100 tons to orbit then you could build something in orbit with the mass of the ISS in 5 launches. What would you build with that mass budget if money is not a problem? How about double that? Realistically I think huge space busses that go to and from mars or the moon. Starship should only be used for landing
>>16487453with 5 starship launches I would build 5 starships
>>16487454you can do that with zero launches
>>16487453
>>16487456yeah but I can't put them in orbit full of Starlinks with zero launches
>>16487453fuck building shit in orbitgive me 500 tons of building materials on the moon and i'll build a hotel
>>16487453I'll take 500 starship launches and build laser sail drivers around the earth and moon, later mars, rendering interplanetary chemical propulsion obsolete.>hurr just wait 26 months for your 6 month hohhman transfer broNo fuck you, we are going whenever we want so long as the sun isn't in the way and arriving in a week or two.
>>16487458I think you would need more launches.>>16487460we need a way to get there and something to do
>>16487452It's only got room for 2 crew. It's a bigger than Apollo but not by all that much
>>16487461This will never happen because something on that scale is a weapon of mass destruction
>>16487400Unfurnished houses are basically white walls and a white ceiling
>>16487464Sad and spiritually crippled e*rther mindset
>>16487462>I think you would need more launches.oh, a 5 launch limit then? a bunch of space probes. if you meant for humans then either a cycler or cruise ship equivalent that travels between earth and the moon.
>>16487466it's just politics. Nothing to do with spirituality
>>16487470Plenty of nations have weapons of mass destruction pointed at each other and it works fine.
>>16487331>>16487333>>16487336>>16487337>>16487340Telling you now people are gonna quickly tire of the constant sonic booms once Starship is operational and flying and landing regularly even just 25 times a year from Boca
>>16487474issue of national securitysorry Nimbys
>>16487474the issue is the 4 psf from Super Heavy over all of South Padre Island, that's going to be badStarship reentry is barely going to be noticeable
>>16487474Then they can move somewhere else
Banan Status:splashed
>>16487444checked
If property values on SPI tank because of starship then I might scoop a property or two. I see there is a whole ass trailer park at the bottom, buy a couple of those and build a badass super sound proofed bunker cabin.
>>16487476https://youtu.be/Ep0ltrs-qN4?t=50Still its just like what once or twice a month, no diff from average thunder frequency there
>>16487482>They say "oh it's just like a thunderclap" and it's like yeah, if the thunderclap is right above your head. >Indeed, and it took 25 seconds for the sonic boom to reach this beach, so a distance of over 8 km. This sonic boom is much, much louder than a thunder clap at that distance!
>>16487482>>16487483watch the video, if it was as loud as a close thunderclap you'd have people flinching
>>16487484>you'd have people flinchingOne literally did, did you watch the video?
>>16487482Bro if that's what you think thunder sounds like, you need your ears checked. Once or twice a month might be fine and they would just have to cope and seethe, but what about rapid reuse? 10 times a months still ok? Every day? Multiple times a day? Every hour?
>>16487218You're a retard.
>>16487488calculate the velocity from falling 30 m on the moon, do it, I dare you
>>16487487Every second, maximum boomworks, they won't even hear the sonic boom over the sound of the next Starship launching right after
>>16487491>that one indian firework launcher video but Starship
>>16487491Now that's a proper space program.
>>16487474sorry sweaty it's a matter of national security, now fuck off
>>16487490Now do the opposite. The problem isn't going down, it's going back up. If the elevator works perfectly fine on the way down, and then doesn't ascend or only ascends a few meters; they're pretty fucked unless someone can throw down a rope.
>>16487496just always have a rope ladder down?doesn't seem like a huge issue
>>16487496>Throw rope out the hatch and tie it to something I just solved the problem. Man, space is hard.
>>16487446Vertical doesn't work if you're sleeping in the ship while it's landed on Mars, though.
>>16487496just add a manual winch to the elevator then? Or get this: a rope ladder
>>16486876Did Nixon fucking sign the plaque that already had his signature on it?
>>16487505ye
>>16487324>>16487325>>16487330her name is off btw
>>16487505Is that really so shocking?
>>16487509Stay away from my wife
>>16487324cute
Elon, when are you breaking ground of the "Starfleet Academy" up in the Bay area? Need to get some top-tier college kids in the pipeline to be eventual Mars workers/colonists. Talk about PR, the trekies would go nuts for this and be your biggest evangelicals.
>>16487452their goal is to use LM10 to do a couple flags and footprints missions and then switch to larger scale ones once LM9 is online
>>16487246>>16487249>>16487252>the holidaysits all so tiresomeJust say Christmas, the rest are made up/celebrated by like <1% of the pop
>>16487331>pounds per square footthey did it, they finally came up with a unit more retarded than psihow many psi is a psf? 144. madness
>>16487532anon... look at this pdf >>16487418
>>16487418>if you build a vacuum chamber every square foot of the outside will have over 2100 pounds pushing in on it
>>16487479just trust the plan anonwe're a long way off from starting operations (2031-2033 timeline)but you'll know when we start up
NOAA astronaut corpsNOAA space station around the sun
>>16487516I don't want starfleet, I want the Legiones Astartes and the Imperial Army
>>16487545>Imperial ArmyWe say "Astra Militarum" nowCan't copyright Imperial Guard
I'm doing my part!
>>16487543You're way too fucking slow boomer
https://x.com/jinsprucker/status/1859460984861229335
>>16487534apparently 2.0 psf is the same as a concord flying overhead, so thats pretty bad.
>>16487558God damn BBC 'journalists' are so fucking stupid. All it takes is a google to clarify. These are the people controlling societies world view. I hope they all get cancer.
>>16487559concord wasn't banned because it was bad, it was banned because it was French and would have made America look bad
>>16487558I still think nominal is a retarded word in this context and normal would be much betterThough of course journalists should know what it means or look it up
>>16486931The Solar System is American territory
>>16487449China is definitely beating us now
>>16487537>he didn't learn about the ancient experiment that demonstrates this in school
>>16487449It will fall apart
>>16487516The bay area is toast for at least 15 years man. The urban centers in Cali literally need to descend into chaos and riots and fires in order for that state to recover.
>>16487579(as I recall, Star Trek even predicted this)
Lori Garver, NASA Administrator
>>16487562it was a French-British condominium. thus the name which means "working together" or "harmony" in both languages.
>>16487596yes but I hate the French and am merely apathetic about the British
>>16487590>lifetime democrat voter and campaign employee>dedicated an entire chapter of her book about her career to george floyd>being picked by trumpnah
Bezos might be a bigger snake than Tory
>>16487602crazier things have happened
https://youtu.be/_igVSf6tyJsBye bye SLS
>>16487605>BO execs met up with Trump days before the election which Jeff couldn't possibly be unaware of >Gutted WaPo for trying to endorse Kamala>Trick people to short on Tesla and SpaceX knowing very well Trump and by extension Elon would win the raceDEVILISH
>>16487605>BO execs meet Trump when polls become clear, last attempt to curry favor, Bezos feigns ignorance>Trump victory assured, pretend to care about objectivity, pledge to hire republican journos (?), attempt to save face publically>Continue seething about Elon as he has done for decades nowThis is his M.O. He'll be sueing Elon again very soon.
>>16487622why is he like this?
>>16487615Fucking kek at some of the comments on that video.
Mengzhou flight model
>>16487631did it get deleted? Don't see it
>>16487631On god he is spirally
>>16487500Maybe they can suspend people from the head in Mars gravity. Very efficient space use.
>>16487633It's a reply to one of the top comments
This is pretty neat; Sen's camera on the ISS caught the Flight 6 launch plumehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yP06FiJogt8
>>16487546I am talking about the Great Crusade era Imperial Army which was an entirely separate and very differently organized institution then the Imperial Guard, considering it was divided into expeditionary fleets of combined naval and ground elements under Legiones Astartes supervision with total ground-air-space integration and use of combined arms warfare across all regiments. The post-scouring Imperial Guard is a mere shadow of the Imperial Army.
>>16487556We're actually already working on stuff, we're just not going to publicly create the company until SpaceX lands men on Mars, and we have very specific reasons for that related to what our goals are.
>>16487565Normal already has the angle connotation in emgineering contexts
>>16487641I was basedpogging hard when the streamed this live and we could see the Plume.
>>16487638thankshad to give him the downboat
So what is Zubrin gonna say about those ICBMs?
>>16487650What was there before the Imperium?>Age of Strife No before thatWas it like a galactic republic? Before the Eldar had so much ass sex that they caused a galactic collapse (as I understand it)
>>16487680There was a very powerful human federation that was allied with various smaller xenos empires, and then the aeldari empire that controlled a portion of the galaxy centered around what became the eye of terror. The two entities fought each other occasionally and the human federation had extremely advanced tech, especially AGI. That is basically all we know.
>>16487682We also don't know exactly when this federation formed, only that it was what existed right before the Age of Strife. Its possible it was only formed within a few thousand years of the Age of Strife beginning. But yeah we basically know nothing about the Dark Age of Technology
does anybody here know about the CSM space resources department
>>16487561Reminder that the B.B.C spells out N.A.S.A as "Nasa" because if you pronounce an acronym you dont capitalise it
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-11-14/spacex-scraps-texas-land-swap-deal-for-starship-rocket-hubmissed this entirely for some reason, perhaps it was postedbut its a week old articlemaybe it was swamped due to post-election related news
>>16487699>In a Sept. 26 letter seen by Bloomberg News, SpaceX Vice President Sheila McCorkle told the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department that the company “is no longer interested in pursuing the specific arrangement.”
>>16487699Smells like eminent domain somewhere.
>>16487702yeahdon't need to do a swap if you get the land some other way anyway
