>>16489325
people that play sports tend to be physically fit and appearance is the first thing everybody judges on. you actually have to think about science a bit to get to the beauty of it, whereas sports are immediately fun to participate in and watch. also schools do a great job of killing any joy there is in science.

there's nothing wrong with having a balanced social life and being in to nerdy stuff as well anon. writing off partying and sports just comes off as sour grapes. for us sperglords, in life, it helps a lot to have at least one normie-tier interest.

>>16489325
I dont know

>>16489325
Because the life of the mind is no life at all. The thinker is living in a computer model of reality rather than reality it's self. The thinker is so disconnected from reality that his head is cut off from his body. He can't dance because he can't feel the rhythm of life, No woman likes a thinker because the thinker is devoid of vitality, of the testosterone that a man needs to act against entropy. By neglecting the body, the physicality of life, the thinker is receives no outside stimulation so he must stimulate himself with his mind and create a false value system in which his non-physical talent, his ability to analyze like a journalist on the side lines of a sports game, is the superior way to be. Alas he will die with regret never having been a player.

>>16489325
Human nature, its also more "obvious", idk how to express it but its like any culture can tell apart a good soccer/football player (runs fast, is fit) from a bad one (is slow, is fat) but you can't say the same for a chess or go player, I think its for a similar reason that music is more emotional and moving than paintings, its more physical, more palpable, immediate.

>>16489325
Stop being a decadent life-hating weakling and read Nietzsche first, then reevaluate your core assumptions.

>>16489325
People are allowed to have fun

>>16489387
btfo

I used to be this type of person, but now I know how wrong I was. Rationalism and overanalyzing everything isn't always good. The beauty of life is frequently found in the irrational.

>>16489325
Easily accessible to people with shallow minds

>>16489387
kino response. Being locked in your head forever doing nothing but computing numbers is no life at all

>>16489325
Clownworld x idiocracy

>>16489325
appeal to the greatest common denominator. Everyone has a capability for tribalism, while only the higher iq people have a liking for being smart

any excuse to drink beer and watch tv
even better if it tricks your brain into thinking you're exercising yourself

did you ever play football?
>"oh yeah I used to play football back in high school"
>gazes downwards sadly, longingly
every time
sad sack of shit thing for sad sack of shit people wishing they were big and manly while eating shit feeling sorry for themselves
then they want kids and pray to jesus that their kids grow up to play professional football because that's all they wanted to do. Millions for football and your kids can't read

I won't talk shit about mma or rugby, but american football and peruvian football are the worst sports to watch. In peru football they maybe score twice but I guess they're trying to zone the whole time. In american football they have to reset like they're bowling pins every five seconds, most of the time is just seen milling around or advertisements. Even basketball is cooler.

>/SP/SP/SP/SP/SP/SP/SP/SP/SP/SP/SP/SP/SP/SP/SP/SP/SP/SP/SP/SP/SP/

>>16489387

>No woman likes a thinker because the thinker is devoid of vitality, of the testosterone that a man needs to act against entropy.

Speak for yourself. Have you considered you're not attractive and thats why women dont care about your "thinking" ?

>>16489325
You can not articulate why intellectualism or scientific advancement should have a higher status than sportsball.
Your reasons boil down to promises to base creatures instincts -- e.g. scientific advancement leading to one living longer, or inventing objects so one doesn't have to work as hard.
I cannot stress this hard enough, but again, promises. These are promises, not assured outcomes.
>but science at least does have a practical use!
I see plenty of practical use in the pic. A society that glorifies sportsball is interested in building stadiums. This is one of the factors that advances or keeps the understanding of engineering at a high level. You also cannot separate human nature from its carnal side. I.e., that we are an embodied creature that likes to move.

In brief:
>you, scientists/intellectual
Your only argument is promising creature comforts.
>sportsball and other trivialities
Providing creature comforts. [perhaps in total less utility gain, but not subject to probability]

>>16489325
I think it's most accurate to think of it as a type of social contagion.
I realized this when I noticed the majority of people watching football have no actual connection to the game. They have never played it and don't know anyone playing. It's very odd and they are only into it because everyone else is into it and that is the entire extent of it.

>>16489440
>>16489404
>>16489387
The mere fact that atheists still talks about a simpleton like Nietzche in 2024 shows that there's no ''progress'' or ''evolution'' in the atheist society, beyond the material realm, precisely because atheism is devoid of any intellectualism, which produces a great stability in their societies and lack of any subversion. Atheism in 2024 is the atheism 200 years ago, and in front their own creation that is nihilism, atheists use the same farcical copes and delusion of grandeur à la Nietzche.

Normies are going to normie. I have always found sport slop cringe and boring. And i have never understood why "people" like it so much.

>>16490237
Meanwhile you believe that a trad con christian society worked so well the first time around that returning to such a society is progress. Never mind that people were so fed up with such a society that they rather became whores than housewives. You christ cucks lack self-reflection.

>>16490162
It's 2024. Everyone knows about black pill and lookism. You're not waking up anyone, you're not trolling anyone, you're not even insulting anyone by calling them ugly or virgins or incels or whatever you want. Grow up, get over it and and contribute rather than regurgitate.

>>16489325
I dont know, we never watched sports in my house so i never got into it. I once tried to have a favorite sportsball team and to follow it and i just could not force myself.

>>16489325
>intellectualism or scientific advancement
>bread & circuses
which do normies prefer...
it's an elite value and also heavily gate kept by them

>>16489639
i demand you quote where i said i belong to a superior tribe, or where anything about me comes into play in my comment

>>16489325
Instant gratification
By being "part" of a team, you can celebrate other people's victories as if they were your own, and without putting in any effort.
By following "sports personalities" and the media circus around them, you can easily live vicariously, at practically zero effort.

In the 1800s scientists wpuld expose their findings in things lie the faraday cage and draw crowds. Now they keep far away in their ivory towers . Their fault.

shut up you fucking nerds /sp/ rules go do some algebra and die virgins while us chads fuck the women of your dreams LOL

>>16489325
Tribalism is primal. Science and moreso, truth seeking mechanisms, are often a threat to tribalism.

>>16496542
all i read was
>im a gay fucking nerd that never got laid and seethed constantly at the football jocks fucking my crush

fucking dorks lmao

Get fucked nerds,go do a volcano project lmoa

is this /bundes/?

>>16489325
why do you think sport is more highly valued than 'advancement'? what is this 'intellectualism' that you speak of? people watch sport to relax from work and shit. it's entertainment. most people don't relax by doing hard shit that requires deep concentration. watching sport is for after the deep concentration.

it's a big industry because people will pay for entertainment. people also pay for smartphones, computers and cars, all of which require 'advancement' and qualified people thinking about shit. those are all big industries as well.

honestly your shit is all confused and it sounds like you spend too much time listening to barely qualified liberal teachers who pontificate about bullshit.

>>16489325
>NFL makes $20billion in gross profit with a budget of $10billion
>NASA has a budget of $25billion a year
hur dur you can do both.

>>16489594
being ugly and short is so brutal i had so many friends before puberty and was good at sports. Being ugly is honestly worse i can cope with being a 5'5'' manlet desu if i was GL.

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>>16489325
I CONQUERED ALL THE CHIPPIES

>>16489325
I am going to ignore the partying part.
People value both sportsmen and intellectual, almost equally if anything.
But sports are all about the spectacle and excellent physical feats, it leans more towards the abilities of specific individuals, even in team games, and the people participating in these competitions are al up for this generally or at least go along with it because it's expected.
Scientific advancements generally don't feel like any one person's work, it's the culmination of several successive steps and teams of people working under wraps. To the average person, it's basically a black box and it's not easy to quantify the skill at hand, making it less individually prestigious. People ARE impressed by the intellect behind advancements all the time, but it's hard to get more invested when it's something you don't quite understand, and not I'm not saying it because "people are stupid" or something like that, it's just that most people don't know the ins and outs of every field, they may be familiar or proficient with 1, maybe 2, but not all of them. This applies even to people in advanced fields, most only specialize in a few things. On the other hand, everyone can immediately tell when a physical feat is impressive or, if not, it's easy to explain why it is, since it's a universal experience everyone is familiar with from the moment they are born.
So it's less that people don't favour intellectualism, and more that physical feats are easier to get invested in and impressed by.

>>16489325
Marketing. They made it so supporting your local for-profit enterprise is a symbol of patriotism. If you aren't in support of taxpayer-funded billion-dollar arenas for teams that lose all the time, then apparently you must hate your community.

is an horse a athlete

>>16489325
Shut the fuck up, dork

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>>16489325
Is that a Super Bowl final?
How big is that crowd?
Is it more than the 100,000+ we get for the AFL Grand Final?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuuwUd0bSyE

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>>16489325
Intellectualism is vital for long-term progress.
Sports and social activities provide immediate, enjoyable, and emotionally rewarding experiences.

>>16497175
is a racecar?

>>16497338
Gillette Stadium seat just under 66K for American sportsball matches.
The record attendence ever was 69K+ for Taylor Swift, followed by U2, The Rolling Stones, Bruce Springsteen, and Keny Chesney.
I got a bj there during a weekend music festival back in 2000.

>>16489325
Most people hate thinking, it's actually difficult for them. Talk to about any NPC about any even mildly complex topic and their mind stops working, I'm not kidding. Most people are lemmings and just do what the crowd does because they don't have the intellectual horsepower to actually reason or form conjectures to reach some kind of revelation or conclusion. Most of society is targeted to the average or even lowest common denominator. It's true in marketing, entertainment, fashion, etc.

>>16496721
Taxes on sports pay for NASA, yet nerds still chimp out at sports like a bunch of ungrateful little bitches. Its also tires hmmmm

>>16497386
>i'm soooo super special, i'm a genius, everyone else is npcs
common grandiose delusion amongst people with narcissistic personalities. if you were truly as insightful and uniquely intelligent as you give yourself credit for being then you'd be able to leverage that not only to benefit yourself, but also to positively alter the society that you are so deeply dissatisfied with. however the truth more likely is that you're so deeply unhappy with the way the world works because of your own failure to achieve the success you feel entitled to, but are incapable of figuring out how to obtain

>>16489325
When I was a kid, I cheered for my national teams, and I was happy when they won. I think it's similar to when your friends compete, and you cheer for them, and are happy when they win. Nowadays the national teams are of course full of Africans, and I couldn't give less of a shit about them anymore.

Cool tough strong man FUCKS
if you can't be cool tough strong man, associate with cool tough strong man and maybe you too can FUCK
Simple AS

>why does a species that are traditionally hunters on the african plains prefer to breed with strong, athletic types
jesus fucking christ some of you need to study evolution a bit more

>>16489336
>sports are immediately fun to participate in and watch.
Except most people who watch sports don't play the sports. Literally touch grass and you'll see.
They just consooooom so they can shout for their teams and talk about it with their friends while drinking beer and maybe doing some sports betting. All of which are dumb activities.

>>16489387
You are literally a thinker who is thinking right now about what a "thinker" is. And yet you're foolishly ranting against thinking. But in your little diatribe you forgot to consider that thinking doesn't preclude doing. That's a hard concept for you to grasp because you're a stupid thinker.

>>16500198
Yeah but I am stupid so I will forget that soon. I am immune to obsessing over things

You spent the first 4 billion years of your evolution surviving in an environment where physical fitness was key. Your brain evolved to find physical playing fun as a way to encourage you to develop and hone your motor skills. People find playing sports ball fun for the same reason cats find stalking each other as kittens fun. Its honing survival skills, and the people that found practicing survival skills fun were people that survived.

>>16498400
>Taxes on sports
>If Sports didn't exist, that money simply would go away
Retard. Direct resource allocation is far more efficient than taxation for resource allocation.

>>16489426
i think the question is more about WHY the average person is born to find those activities fun over something more intellectually stimulating.
>>16489325
these things are easy to understand and they get your adrenaline pumping for some people. partying serves the same purpose as tribal people dancing around fires. i don't know any other time when young people are so relaxed and celebratory around each other
it's an essential part of brain development for many developing minds. that's why the alcohol trade off is most likely worth it.

>>16489325
Because trump won and science is seen as gay now.

>>16500239
Experience seems to match we have empirical people

>>16500235
sports is intellectually stimulating, you just hate the topic because you're not athletic and are too lazy to exercise.

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>>16500239
Better than tranny woke lefty Democrat faggots.

>>16501680
Its a shame that the nerds of /sci/ don't exercise because having a healthy and robust circulatory system means that your brain works better even when you are at rest.

i got more excited over videogame sports between different 4chan boards than actual sports. i think if i actually gave a shit about the country or state i live in id like sports.

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>>16489325
Most Aussie blokes grow up playing Aussie-Rules for the local team during Primary & High-School.
Once you play this sport, you're addicted.
We genuinely believe this is the best sports game in the world.
I kid you not.

The BIG DAY!!
Packed stadium...
The atmosphere!!
Definitely a Bucket-List experience.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJGjahEYRuk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHt0ROim9U8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_FQ9n7eLXs

>>16504543
Bullfighting is another spectator sport worth checking out. The euro version has been sissified, but the Mexican stuff is still top grade. Pretty much the only reason to ever bother visiting Mexico

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>>16500239
>science is seen as gay now.
must feel nice to try and cast blame elsewhere, but the perception of science as being homosexual is a self inflicted wound

>>16501680
the difference in the intellectual requirements are clear. it's obvious if you look at any professional athlete compared to any mathematician/physicist. you're just trying to deny reality

>>16505551
it depends i think. basketball and futbol might require more thinking than football where the players just do what the quarterback tells them to. Boxing also requires thinking on your feet. Really football is probably the most braindead sport.

>>16489325
Sports are fun and entertaining and science is boring. That’s how they see it generally. I enjoy both very much.

>>16489325
Sport is fun, and it provides something to strive for for people when they've been domesticated to not stab each other with swords all day as a pastime anymore. Not all people have the cognitive virtues to appreciate the mental and the abstract, nor should they.

>>16506077
>the cognitive virtues
being too lazy to exercise isn't a virtue, what you're doing is like a fatso claiming that skinny people are too lazy to eat.

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>>16489325
Just watch sportsball, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

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>>16489325
>>16507187

>>16500198
well you're an even dumber and bigger thinker since you're thinking about a thinker thinking about thinkers thinking things and not living life.
btw rn I am thinking pretty hard about it and it describes me as well, living is antithetical to thinking and vice versa, but maybe there is a middle way, no need to be an edgelord

>>16507191
>I'm sooooo much better than regular people!!!!
>I'm a super special unique snowflake an sheeeiiiittt
>hey everyone look at me bragging about being sooo much better than everyone else!!!!
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20366662

>>16489325
>I have never understood the appeal of things like sports or partying
dopamine

>>16497175
horse racing is a bunch of shit.
Its not the best horse on the day but introduces a handicap weight.
Its all about gambling and corrupt stewards.

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The entire graduating class of MIT combined will never earn this kind of scratch

>>16509343
"earn" is the keyword in your post. athletes actually earn their salaries because they produce something of value, entertainment. the fags who devote their lives to publishing replication crisis articles in the academic vanity press (which fortunately nobody ever reads) produce nothing of any value and they don't even earn as much as the mid five figure salaries they're paid, they're just leeches, toxic, self centered, government funded financial drains on society. we'd be better off without them.

>>16497377
>nerds have to fantasize about getting what sports chads posses
what a cope, sports chads never fantasize about wanting to be nerds

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>>16511297

I am currently watching sportsball, how many of you find this upsetting?

>>16507323
It is possible to think about our society beyond bread and circus without being mentally ill.

>>16513122
The only annoying thing about your post is using a faggot term like "sportsball"

>>16513723
attempting to haughtily dismiss the central part of the culture as mere 'bread and circus' only proves what a snob you are. you're only dismissive because that part of the culture does not include yourself as an important character.

>>16489325
It takes relatively little effort to understand what you're watching, simple as.

>>16489325
fitness
if you were a crab you'd like to pull small shrimp apart with your claws

>>16489325
Feels good. But really it's all about mating potential. It's very feminine.

Sports is more intellectual than science is. If science fags were really as smart as they're always bragging about being then they would be the ones making $50 million a year, not the athletes.
Nerds need to face up the fact that they're society's losers - low paid and disrespected - if they're ever going to learn how to lead their lives properly and make decent people of themselves. Too bad they seem mentally incapable of that, instead the hide away from reality inside their grandiose delusions of superior intellect even though all the evidence proves that their intellects are inferior. Smart people don't end up as nerds, nobody in their right mind would want to end up like that.

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bad news guys, it looks like science nerds aren't the only group that hates exercising

>>16489325
I mean American football is pretty faggy and the most watered-down shitty "sport" there is, but as >>16504543 and >>16505236 said, there are other cool sports around the world, a lot of which require some thinking and athleticism to be good at it (a moron doing bullfighting will just fucking die ASAP and a football (real football not the yank one) player that doesn't know how to coordinate with his teammates on a dime is only going to be a liability).

I think a lot of fags here go in the opposite direction just to be contrarians (namely sports good science bad) or maybe because they are retards (which is typical of the average person lacking a sense of self, so the average person), but sports and science are both pretty fun. It's just American football that's the odd man out.Just like psychology isn't a science, American football is a mockery of true sport.

>>16517558
Bullfighting is a wonderful sport, but Spain has kind of fagged their's up, Mexican bullfighting is a lot better.

>>16489325
Partying is for fags but sports glorify the prowes and potential of the human body (except american sports)

>>16505555
>least retarded /sci/ssie
Learn before you talk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VgE3EyWUic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPdJwu5q3JU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv4CXySXxCk

I both played and watched sports today. How many of the people in this thread are upset at me over that?

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>>16489325
here is another similar disparity i've been noooticing recently

>>16489325
"Science" is just a bunch of professional grifters hyping up worthless "experiments" in an endless quest to consume taxpayer money.

Football at least is entertaining.

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>>16516618
>If science fags were really as smart as they're always bragging about being then they would be the ones making $50 million a year, not the athletes.
Oh burn... at least I'm going to waste away from Alzheimer's in my 80's instead of dying at 60 from CTE though.

>>16521360
horribly weak cope, enjoy ur sour grapes

>>16518621
How did Spain fag it up? I'll go see Mexican bullfighting when I get the chance.

>>16489325
I make more money gambling on sports than any STEM grad will ever earn with their degree. All it takes is solid knowledge of arithmetic and the willingness to watch sports on TV. The vast majority of sports bettors don't know what they're doing &/or just play for fun, people who approach gambling intelligently can make a lot of money. Theres a guy who has been posting his picks in the NBA general on /sp/ this season and he is hitting like 2/3 of his bets because he knows the game better than most gamblers do.

>>16523319
People make more money gambling on STEM than gambling on sports.

>>16489325
Sensor Vs intuitive divide

>>16489325
>intellectualism or scientific advancement
Intellectuals are fools that spend all day working their mind into increasingly complex knots and then masturbate next to each other over their latest nonsense and there hasn't been an advancement worth celebrating in decades.

>>16523735
wtf are you babbling about!!

>>16517540
lol are faggots really the only other group that hates sports as much as nerds do?

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>>16517540 >>16524121
>science nerds hate exercising
>nerds hate sports