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What’s your excuse, /sci/? What’s your fucking excuse?
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>>16503248
I'm not 13.
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>>16503248
>What’s your fucking excuse?
Well, for starters, I’m not Asian
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>>16503248
Skill issue (which is why I'm here and not in the lab)
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stop making me want to kill myself dude, i only graduated at 28
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fags
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>>16503248
Cool clock, daniel
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I actually had loving parents growing up and not some type of psychopathic indoctrination prone people that push their children to do things they don't want to so that they can leech off of their success and sit around doing fuck all for the rest of their lives.
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>>16503248
I lost my virginity at that age kek fucking nerd
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Don't women start havibg sex at that age? What's his excuse?
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It's just some tryharding autist
>At age 13, Daniel co-published a paper about developing pharmaceutical drugs and pesticides in a faster, cheaper, and more eco-friendly way.
any retard can do tests and publish the results
>co-published
so retard watched adults do it
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>>16503248
I'M GONNA POOOOBLISH
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>>16503248
of course, hes asian, that's the average starting age for them actually
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>>16503334
cope, asian kids find stem naturally
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>>16503425
That depends on the type of Asian. Some Asians can't even find a toilet.
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>>16503425
>asian kids find stem naturally
Yes, all asian people are naturally just way more likely to also pursue classical music literacy from an early age as well, and are just way more in tune with classical instruments because they are just differently built in their minds, it has nothing to do with the fact that their parents are actively brainwashing their children from age 4 to do these things. Hence why there are so many classical musicians that shaped classical music that are asian, there are many of them, they aren't just piggy backing off of European prodigies but doing so in such an unnatural and forced way that they might as well be considered humanoid robots or life forms similar to that of insects completely devoid of any type of traits required to actually make good classical music and just play the instruments without having any type of originality or ability to make any great works. They're just different that way. Better, even.
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Asians are just automatically way more likely to do these things. No, these values aren't instilled in any way, it is just an innate desire to do these things that come from within. If you put an asian person on an island alone, he will automatically start to build instruments out of wood and play Chopin. It's just what asian people do. I believe it.
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>>16503442
lol all this cope because you never had asian natural talent. understand there are differences in race and iq and asians reign supreme.
>another asian teaching themselves robotics, calculus, programming, nuclear fusion, etc all before college
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJtl-fRrP3k
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>>16503446
seething
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>>16503446
just take a look at what happens when you raise both an asian and a white kid in the suburbs. watch as the white teen will gravitate towards partying and drinking on their own while an Asian is more likely to naturally gravitate towards stem. it's just genetics
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>>16503448
I'm agreeing with you, asians are really just extremely talented at everything they do. Behavioral psychology doesn't exist, the idea that someone's environment may or may not influence how a person acts, is just a massive lie. Clearly, asians of all kind are just extremely intelligent and aren't being forced in any way to do anything at all, at any time. It only applies to people that aren't asian, asians are just better and gifted. That's what you're saying, and that is what I believe as well. The amount of asians that are gifted in classical music is disproportionate to the amount of other races that aren't, which is one of the main reasons why there are so many of them that play instruments and create impressive works. Not only are they smart, but they are also original.
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>>16503450
>it's just genetics
Yes, the genetics of having parents that will literally disown you unless you do well in school.
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>>16503248
Poor kid
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>>16503248
I don't want to publish
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>>16503248
I had parents who were jealous, stymied any opportunity for growth, and sabotaged potential mentors who spoke highly of me. I’ve been doing lab monkey shit since 14 and coauthored a paper at 16, only because then I could drive through my suburban hellscape locale to my lab on a regular basis.
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>>16503358
Losing your virginity isn't the accomplishment society wants you to think it is. Just saying.
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>>16503248
>What’s your fucking excuse?
I grew up deep in the countryside to a poor working class family. I had no access to a library, let alone lab equipment, before I started commuting to my middle school at that age.
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>>16503735
>lol cope virgin
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>>16503248
My country has child labor laws.
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>>16503452
>Behavioral psychology doesn't exist, the idea that someone's environment may or may not influence how a person acts, is just a massivhomes.
Yeah
>Clearly, asians of all kind are just extremely intelligent and aren't being forced in any way to do anything at all, at any time.
>of all kind
Eh, slow your role. Chinese, Japanese, Korean, and Vietnamese and that's it.
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>>16503358
kek at the coomer who is happy to give free sex to w randam skank who no longer gives a shit about it
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>>16503767
>muh cope
You need to be 18 to post here
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>What’s your fucking excuse?
Reviewer #2
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>>16503727
Shit, hopefully you’re doing better now
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>>16503448
i'm part of a demographic that has higher average IQ than any asian ethnicity
there's a non-trivial IQ floor for what this kid is doing but it isn't actually that high, lots of low 120s could do it
plenty of white kids in that range. what they don't have (as often) are boxchecking parents who will actively create opportunities like this for their kids to build line items for a future resume. arguably this is a flaw in contemporary white culture, i'm open to that line of thought, but it's not the result of an IQ difference
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>>16506441
>i'm part of a demographic that has higher average IQ than any asian ethnicity
What is it?
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>>16506442
stating it would derail the thread. there are two obvious guesses if you're really familiar with HBD, not going to confirm which one it is.
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>>16506442
unless he's an ashkenazi he's full of shit
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>>16503248
Born in third world shithole. Parents were 1st generation out of poverty, they wanted me to get a stable job and fuck off to some other country. Country is a crab bucket full of shitheads and ruled by mafias. Couldn't give a shit about research growing in a place like this, for my own sanity.
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>>16506441
he is definitely not 120 lmao, what he is doing at 16 is equivalent to being in college, why are scitards so bad at iq estimation
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>>16503248
Whenever you read about this you just know it's parents railroading him into doing stuff like this for the sake of their own bragging rights, regardless of his intelligence.
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>>16506479
How do you get good at iq estimation.
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>>16503248
All child prodigies are frauds.
Every last one of them is. None of them amount to anything, since even if they are aa good as they are they will get crushed by the cruelty of the real world.
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>>16506611
can you elaborate on what you mean by they will get crushed by the cruelty of the real world? Will they be held back by corporate bosses or investors or what do you mean?
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>>16503248
In my case I was raised by idiots (still love my mom, she tried her best) and not introduced to the world of science early in life. Things would have been much easier if my interest for chemistry was sparked as a kid but instead it took me into my 20s.
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>>16506611
LMAO, they only need a good mentor to monetize their skills and get free from demonic and parasitic trash.
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>>16506985
What I mean is that their path has been carefully engineered for them by others, but this won't always happen.
How to sort your things out yourself a skill you don't get if you don't do it. And often it's too late.

Also there is a profit incentive in having a genius child.
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>>16506444
The evidence for having absurdly high IQs like some claim is quite scant. It's just from a couple studies done with very poor sampling techniques, with poorly g loaded tests. And sometimes they don't even test them, it's just guessing based on academic performance. Sure, they're smart, but there's little evidence they're any smarted than Japanese or any other high IQ race. Given the average IQ of Israel (95-97), which is actually well studied, the average non Ashkenazi Israeli IQ would have to be borderline retarded to allow the Ashkenazi IQ to be as high as some claim.
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>>16503248
I don't need an excuse, I have already published
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>>16503248
I have 5 high impact journal papers within two years of starting work as a researcher.
It's all about luck. So-called child prodigies also got lucky.
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>>16507083
>t. synthetic inorganic chemist who can dream up a crystal structure and publish it in JACS
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>>16503248
This shit is so fake. Nobody is going to let a 13 year old kid into their lab, no matter how smart he is. Maybe they'll give him a tour if he REALLY REALLY wants to see it.

Nepotism is at play. Either his parents work there, or are friends with someone who does, or paid a shitton of money for them to let him play around.

According to the article, he was in college at 11. WTF did he have to do to get in? Did he have a highschool transcript to send in? He would have had to have staed when he was 7. Even if he got straight A's before then, nobody actually gets thrown ahead 10 years because they get a 4.0gpa.
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Umm babe I graduated from a bachelors in philosophy at 30~
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>>16507202
>According to the article, he was in college at 11. WTF did he have to do to get in? Did he have a highschool transcript to send in? He would have had to have staed when he was 7. Even if he got straight A's before then, nobody actually gets thrown ahead 10 years because they get a 4.0gpa.
Homeschooling + invested parents + nepotism
There are homeachooling programs out there that let you stack up on credits and take two years of primary/secondary school at once. Especially if he had a stay at home mom and was an only/first child? So many parents (in academia, especially) way overinvest in their first kid as a way to live through them vicariously or to tote them around as a trophy.
University of Toledo's acceptance rate is >90%. Toledo's not the most competitive area, and it's a public uni, so you can assume the vast majority of students are locals. It's not a stretch to think they have dual enrollment, are not particularly rigorous, and would accept a kid whose parents are willing to meet with some dean to make their kid's case.
Looks like he was successful at UMich (won the Goldwater too, which ranges way out of the nepo range) so he's probably the real deal, just also incredibly fortunate, too.
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>>16507202
>>16507284
I met a guy kind of like this when I was at university, he was 16 or 17 when he graduated
He was the smartest student I met there but he also had a stereotypical Jewish mom who was completely obsessed with him
Kids at the very top end of the scale are hugely gimped by the school system, they can go at mach speed if the parents are willing to work hard enough
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>>16507026
Thank you for elaborating, yeah that makes sense. But is it always the case?
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>>16506611
I think a good chunk go on to be adults productive in their chosen fields alongside normies who all end up out of range for most media coverage. Ultimately, nobody really cares about a 21 year old PhD holder studying some esoteric math alongside established profs and other students in their (later) 20s, but an 11-year-old in orgo is accessibly impressive to your "some college"-educated audience.
See: Ewin Tang
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>>16503248
He's definitely gifted, but more often then not with these child wonders, the parents are the ones that push the child into studying (either by positive reinforcement, or probably less likely, abuse) and create many opportunities for their child. Most parents aren't out there to make their teenager an academic they're more likely to push for lower ambition goals like being a doctor or lawyer.
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>>16507213
>bachelors in philosophy
So what, did you just circlejerk about Karl Marx all semester or some shit?
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>>16503248
Asians and indians do this shit all the time and then whites wonder why they can't get jobs.

White boomers think it's character building to do everything yourself. Meanwhile Gupta Sanjay fakes ten research credentials for his 12 year old so he looks like a prodigy despite being a retard.

At school I knew a jeet who was a CEO of a research start up. Did he do anything at all? No. But when he applied for unis he looked like a fucking wander kid.
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>>16508486
>White boomers think it's character building to do everything yourself
because it is. Cheating your way through life is for browns and women. It’s against the Faustian spirit.
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>>16506442
Any race which isn't black is the answer, since Asian test scores are inflated by cheating.
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>>16506988
I relate to this on a spiritual level
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>What’s your excuse
I’m probably retarded
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>>16508819
only in China
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>>16503248
>2019

Kid is 19 now and he works at Google.
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>>16503248
My excuse is that science hasn't done anything good in centuries.
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>>16507318
Feel bad for kids like that, they aren't able to enjoy normal emotional milestones or have permanent friends because of how fast they go. Send him a Christmas (hanukah?) card so he doesn't rope
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>>16503248
I went to public school



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