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Alien civilizations exist throughout the universe, but we just so happen to be in an isolated part of the universe where there is little to no contact between civilizations, no alien species, or atleast those who hold a significant amount of presence in the galaxy, knows about us, UFOs are either man-made objects mistaken as visitors, or simply random alien travelers who are lost in space and happen to stumble upon us in their voyages, none of them are of the reconnaissance or scientist type, they are just lone travelers who bump into us by pure coincidence.

What do you think? Spacefaring civilizations could be plentiful throughout the universe but we were unlucky to be born on a planet that isn't widely known about.
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>>16535678
no need to go through all that nonsensical rambling, i just think aliens don't exist, it's that simple
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>>16535687
I reserve the judgements. They may exist, but simply are plants.
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>>16535678
I think we need to stop using Star Wars as a basis for our understanding of intelligent life and be more concrete

>>16535687
Aliens absolutely exists, but they are too far away in space and time and too different to matter in any meaningful way.
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>>16536011
There is plasmid life living in our Sun.
They communicate with Earth via aurorae.
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>>16535678
Aliens have visited us and know we are here, but they are reasonable enough to not try uplifting a species that hasn't proven they are mature enough for interstellar travel, don't really have a reason to wipe us out since we might die off or devolve if we never escape Earth anyway, and additionally, we don't really have anything to offer them. Any resource you can find on Earth can be found elsewhere in the solar system (or any solar system) likely for cheaper. No point in enslaving us because whatever we can do, a robot can do a thousand times faster. They might want our culture, but you can just download that from a distance. Literally no point in actually coming down to greet us.
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this isn't even your retarded theory, you stole it from fermi paradox theories. what a fucking loser.
>What do you think?
that you are a retard for posting this shit
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>>16536203
retard
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>>16535678
most life and alien civilizations are born and live under protective sheath of brown dwarfs, radio signal or light from outside reach them and so they are isolated from the rest of the universe - they do not even known that something outside exist
Earth is effect of dual Solar system(Sun+Jupiter) catching brown star(Saturn) with planet companions - the effect of this event was Earth thrown into habitation zone and miraculously surviving it
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>>16536011
>Aliens absolutely exists
You’re proof?
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>>16536409
Your
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The conditions for life that can also escape a gravity well are extremely rare.

We've discovered a ton of planets.

But none of them have conditons for water.

You also need some kind of driver for single celled life to go multicellular.

Then you need some kind of driver for multicellular life to go onto land, which means a stable moon and tides.

You also need to not get wrecked by kinetic impacts, various cosmic ray bursts, etc etc

Then you need a species w the conditions to develop language, technology, and then not go extinct due to various reasons.

The planet also must not have so much gravity that escaping w chemical rockets isnt possible.

Earth is extremely unique in this regard.

Theories on life from other kinds of chemosynth can be dismissed. The laws of physics probably only permit carbon based organic life.
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>>16536412
Also consider that, due to inverse square law, and the speed of light, if theres life in other galaxies, even if they built dyson shells you wouldnt know. Its very likely earth is the only planet in the entire galaxy with intelligent life. Its very likely that you cannot breach FTL under any conditions of baryonic matter. Thus baryonic life can only spread at small fractions of c. Even if a species goes full borg and just sends self replicating mechanical probes out, relativistic starships are almost entirely out of the question and life only spreads at small fractions of c.

It would not be surprising if we are the only intelligent species in the local group.
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>>16536415
Note that...all these claims of ayy lmaos visiting earth, total BS.

You cannot sneak into our system and also travel at significant fractions of c. Anything approaching our solar sysyem at significant fractions of c would look like a very bizarre star.
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>>16536412
>>16536415
>>16536417
My theory is that interstellar travel is not ideal for traversing the universe, I think wormhole technology would be the key instead.
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>>16536417
>ayys visiting is total BS
sure thing bud.
>Inexplicable shit seen for centuries it’s fake because I said it is ok!
You have to be a mega retard to actually believe this.
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>>16536417
>Anything approaching our solar sysyem at significant fractions of c would look like a very bizarre star
You're assuming it would be a human-sized spaceship. I reckon an advanced civilization would send microscopic explorers to conserve energy and travel safer. Maybe even transform into massless particles to travel at c. Maybe their whole civilization would be microscopic; it might make more sense to become extremely efficient with energy usage, rather than building megalomaniac shit like dyson spheres.
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>>16536605
Im sure those aliens are in your head right now, but that doesn't mean they're in reality, learn to manage your psychosis
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>>16535678
Aliens don't exist, I know some people like to create imaginary friends in order to feel less lonely, after all, humanity has always been the only sapient species it has ever known so it has led us to invent all sorts of mythical beings in an attempt to alleviate our loneliness; spirits, angels, gods, demons, aliens, etc.

But let me tell you, no matter how painful it is, we are completely alone, it has always been like that and always will be, but it's understandable if you still wish to keep dreaming.
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>>16536686
You don't have anything to prove the contrary, kid.
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kinda sad but cool thread
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>>16535678
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Katechon Hypothesis yet.

https://akarlin.com/katechon/

>tldr everyone is hiding from predatory alien exterminators
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>>16535678
aliens exist and they just as boring as we are and we should not care about them let alone anything else in life we should probably just kill ourselves and wait for a better spawn with good rng
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>>16535678
I think that the most reasonable thing is to think that there are obviously other civilisations in the universe (we are living proof that highly intelligent life is capable of appearing in the universe) but that the distances are so great that we will never cross paths, unless by chance two different civilisations have developed relatively close to each other.
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>>16535678
or:
>we don't see any aliens
>because there aren't any aliens to see
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>>16536011
>Aliens absolutely exists
Believing in something without any empirical evidence for it is religion.
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>>16537747
good thing there is plenty of empirical evidence that life exists then
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We're approximately 3 generation of stars into the Stelliferous era. We're the first in our galactic neighborhood.
Go ahead and call me a retard now.
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>>16537972
retard
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>>16535678
better theory: God made us and aliens. He has ensured that natural selection drives any all intelligent life to create ever more successful and complex civilizations.
He made us all so far apart in the universe that by the time we encounter each other we will do on earth as it is in heaven.

As for encountering aliens before that time, who the hell wants competition from them? It's hard enough getting along with niggers and other races; humans are selected to be racist. Mixing genetically distant critters that inhabit the same niche is asking for low social cohesion, just look at democrat cities..
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>>16537959
Life on earth, yes. There's no empirical evidence for life anywhere else
>b-but it's only logical...
>in theory...
>it just makes sense ok...
Not empirical evidence.
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>>16538523
why would it be impossible
the universel is kinda big you know
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>>16537393
I'm with you anon
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>>16538550
I never said it's impossible. I said there's no empirical evidence for it.
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>>16538356
>natural selection drives any all intelligent life to create ever more successful and complex civilizations
>democrat cities
I want to believe, but anon has hoisted himself on his own petard
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>>16538864
>new thing bad old thing good!
>the answer to every problem is more guns!
no
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>>16535678
UFOs do not exist, they are just a US psyops with military applications. You never see Russia or China say shit about UFOs, all the UFO shit conveniently only happens in the US, because again it's a US psyop
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I'm not quite sure what I believe, in context to alien life that isn't merely conjecture and I'm not quite sure you'll believe me, however I've witnessed an odd UFO like phenomenon at close proximity with another verified witness that I've yet to come up with a reasonable explanation for. We were fishing at the lake, late at night when a giant ball, about 3m in discernable radius, golden in color and in the impression of light, appeared just a meter above the water. It stayed there for but a short moment before it shrank slightly and shot up into the sky, leaving a light trail glimmer as it disappaited. There was no sound, and it was very much unlike a firework. No drugs of any kind were involved. Take this story at anecdotal value.
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similar story from my parents aka the most teetotaller and unimaginative persons you can imagine
they just don't think about it lol
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>>16538974
Russians do have an Ufology scene and sightings.
You just don't hear much about them because they write their stuff in a language you don't know.
Same goes for china, plus the great firewall.



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