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For years i thought time didn’t exist, just change and change is what we called time, being movement just a change in the position of an object, for example. That’s in the end how we measure time, the earth doing a 360 rotation being a day, and an atom in an atomic clock going from one edge to the other n times. We call the past all the previous movements or changes a tall levels. I was sure that time had a ‘direction’, and that the universe was like a billard that got hit once and the subatomic balls got in all directions but with the primitive force having one that defined the rest, so somehow we could ‘rewind’ universe if applied the equivalent force in the opposite direction. Anyway, it occurred to me that.. change CAN’T actually happen without time. Change and movement can happen if there’s a space AND a time dimension. Can someone give me a book or something to look at to understand or explore more this? I’m not scientific at all but this matter really intrigues me so ideally it would have to be a book for physic or math retards.
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>>16546851
>change CAN’T actually happen without time.
Source? Studies? Evidence? Credentials?
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>>16546851
yes, change can happen without time, although you'll have to buy my book to find out how (I will never write it)
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Look at a clock nigga.
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>>16546851
I sort of get what you're saying. I think what you're referring to as change without time is what we know as superposition but I'm mostly talking out of my ass.
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>>16546851
Change without time means every event happens instantaneously.
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time can't happen without change because time is change. you can theoretically have time without change if everything is frozen but then you don't know you have time, it's the same as not having time.
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>>16546851
There's a huge difference between how equations need to be written and what reality actually is.
Time itself never shows up as an observable property. It's always derivative of the constrained choices we make in measurement strategies.
Even atomic clocks with all their precision only actually work by enforcing ridiculously specific conditions.
Your first thought was the more correct one in that the states of particles evolve stochastically and allow us to have a Newtonian notion of a linear universal clock.
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Change cannot happen even with time because all events are preordained
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>>16546851
>time
Time is a poetic imaginary thing created by people to simplify rat races they call life.
Neither life, as a phenomena of being alive, doesn't exist, because our lives are just a sequence of dead, abstract, electrochemical reactions in biomechanism called body. We cant call a rusty old truck being alive just because fuel burns inside of it and it's motor is running. Same with the body, it's "life" is over when you'll cut off fuel supply.
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Yes, but you need more expressive language that allows you to say it without saying "change happens all the time", which is not true, because things are always the same.



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