Is it possible for an average person to grow a homemade monocrystalline silicon ingot big and pure enough to make at least 1 functioning microchip?
sure but you are not going to make a chip out of it
I still don't understand how chip fabrication works.
>>16547115https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu52CE55BN0
>>16547089just buy a blank waffer
>>16547115Probably be one of the first technologies to fall out of use. We'll run out of enough people smart enough to do it.
>>16547122That's kinda helpful but I'd like to see what individual logic gates look like on the wafer. Also, is it all just a single layer?
>>16547089Probably? But that’s like the least important part. You can just buy em online.The hard part is having a working photolithography setup and the means to apply stuff to your wafer. Producing integrated circuits at home been done before though, and it’s one of my personal long term goals.
>>16547089Yes. But can you even grow a single block of salt first?
>>16547190
>>16547089Your electric and/or gas bill will be horrendous.
>>16547089People have been doing DIY semiconductors in their garages for decades anon.
>>16547089Well, with what passes for average today, I am not so sure. Still, an average IQ dude with patience and willingness to learn, fail, try again (and probably a dash of autism) can do it, yes.Silicon is a relatiovely forgiving material, and you can get quite a bit with plain shadow masks and avoid big mask aligners. The 6502 was made at a 3 um node.http://sam.zeloof.xyz/maskless-photolithography/Of course, if you do this, and it is possible, I will be happy to shake your hand and congratulate you on this monumental task.
>>16547089>average personWhat do you mean by this?>average incomeYes, such a person could grow the crystal.>average intelligenceNot a chance.
>>16547115some rich girl on youtube shows how to make at least one transistor with equipment she has in her house. Some people make chips with thousands of transistors which... can do some calculations.Its said it get hard when the transistors get very small because then you need ultra cleanliness, any dust, grease gets in the circuit and breaks it.
>>16547089silicon really likes oxygen, so no.
>>16547190Just get chatgpt to do it :)
>>16547574From wafers?
>>16547089An _average_ person? No.
>>16547574OP asked if an average person could grow a mono-crystalline silicon ingot of sufficient size and quality to make a functioning microchip. The answer is no. The average person does not possess the requisite equipment nor the expertise to use it, nor the motivation to acquire those skills and equipment.
>>16547196https://www.righto.com/2024/01/intel-386-standard-cells.htmlhttps://dl.acm.org/doi/fullHtml/10.1145/3508375https://classes.engineering.wustl.edu/permanant/cse260m/images/9/95/Tsmc18_component.pdf
>>16547936Thanks
>>16547989You're welcome anon :)
>>16547190I'm actually rooting for the Chinese to figure out fabs because literally all of modern civilization hinges upon the production happening inside one giant building in Taiwan.
>>16550777Taiwan are Chinese too.
>>16547897It's a process mastered in 1915, it's well within reach of enthusiasts willing to spend some bucks. Pure enough to do some lithography and chemical etching to make working field effect transistors. Not fucking 5 nanometer microchips for your gayming console.
>>16551275>it's well within reach of enthusiasts willing to spend some bucksSure. But not average persons.
>>16547190Not true. Some groups never rise. Look at abbos
>>16547190That's a really wordy way of saying>weak men create hard times
>>16547897>The average person does not possess the requisite equipment nor the expertise to use itPatents exist and are readily available for free, online. All the techniques have tutorials on youtube.>nor the motivation to acquire those skills and equipment.Irrelevant
>>16551275https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS5ycm7VfXg>not using photoshop and a microscope for home lithography
