Starship V2 maiden flight - editionprevious >>16550696
>We improved Starship!>results almost as bad as IFT-2it's so joever
well fugg :DDD
more juicy videos
F ;_;
thunderf00t never misses
https://x.com/DJSnM/status/1880025107948794244
hot staging volume 2
bros I'm going into depressionit's all so tiresome(we) won't get to mars, will we?
Lynch moved on?
>>16552129>fire in spaceOh shit, it was both propellant AND oxidizer leaking
>>16552131we're gonna go through a little dark age
>>16552111Fucking whales doing all these multi-pulls
>>16552132This one is my favorite so far, extremely kino
https://x.com/adavenport354/status/1880026262254809115https://x.com/deankolson87/status/1880026759133032662https://x.com/realcamtem/status/1880026604472266800three clips, are there more?
Shades of what happened to Ship 25 on IFT-2. Wouldn't be surprised if it was some dumb little thing they overlooked that caused Ship 33 to go boom on this flight.
STARSHIP EXPLOSION FTS
HOLY FUCK it just exploded out of nowheresomeone post the video>>16552145there's the one where it's filmed explodingclear showed it just now
>>16552151holy shit kino
>>16552151WOW, but with >>16552139 it isn't all that surprising
>>16552151isn't that just stage separation?
My fucking amazon packages this was Elon's goal to get back at Bezos
>>16552151Is it just me or does that look a little brighter than it should? Is it on fire?
>>16552132>>16552151Far out!
>>16552111you guys dont get it, he sacrificed the ship to fix his repudation that got damaged reccently
>>16552151That video cuts off way too early
>>16552126This is the coolest think Elon's ever done
This video is fucking crazy man
https://x.com/Space_Time3/status/1880029076192391209>Here's a thread with all the different videos coming in of Ship 33 break-up and re-entry:
>>16552151Is this how FTS look like?
Friendship ended with SpaceX/sfg/ is Blorgin Country now
https://x.com/brakeyourcycle/status/1880028197208686869
Is there Starship breakup audio?
>>16552168it's evening on earth, so sunlight is weaker, but since Starship is very high up, it's getting more sunlight, which makes it brighter
>>16552187No. Telemetry just went dead mid flight
>>16552189Makes sense
ULA sniper working in the upper atmosphere now?
https://x.com/jessepck/status/1880026596381454776clip
>>16552187WOOSHSHSHSHSHS BOOOM kskaks
>>16552183He's the new president now I guess
>>16552151this is what space warfare will look like once we have spacecraft involved
Ships was leaking fuel, if not, how do you explain the fire in the flap ?
>>16552184SHOOT THE DRONES DOWN!!!!
>>16552091
>>16552178sourcehttps://x.com/timmaayd/status/1880027549667061832
>>16552126>>16552132>>16552151>>16552178wow, this made me realise how fucking terrifying MIRVs are
>>16552193what do you think they flew up in BONG? that's why it had a twr of 1.00001it was filled with snipers and ammo
>>16552151It's kind of beautiful how it went.
spacex is going to jail
>>16552182From that distance an FTS activation would look pretty much the same as any other onboard explosion, but the degree that the ship turned into confetti makes me think the flight computer decided to trigger the bomb
>>16552170
>>16552212
https://x.com/FlyerXT/status/1880027458642350095
>>16552206...This was what did that, and not the videos of Russia firing dummy MIRVs at random Ukranian cities out of spite?
>>16552184>wife in Turks and Caicosthis guy is getting cheated on
Planes changing trajectory to avoid debris
RUD confirmed
>>16552210oh shit all the air traffic kek
>>16552206Russia launched inert MIRVs at Ukraine a while backhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEzDkQb75QEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49H34oUm8eQ
>>16552210>>165522212nd flight wasn't this bad, right
>>16552223There's no way to sugarcoat this...
venting methane
>>16552221>be commercial airliner>literally anything happens>I'M GONNA, IM GUNNA, IM GONNA HOOOLLLLDDD>enters a racetrack pattern
>>16552209WHAT ??? HOW
>>16552210IMAGINE all the CINEKINO videos we'll get once they land and passengers upload them to the internet
>>16552231>COCKBURN TOWN>cock rocket burns updamn
>>16552210Holy shit.
>>16552210>>16552224>>16552229NOTAM, motherfuckers, did you read it?
>>16552227damn starship is pretty good at making exoatmospheric explosions
>>16552218>>16552226These ones put it way more in perspective, and are in way better quality, honestly the russian ones looked like normal strikes to me (not saying that they weren't ICBMs just saying that if wasn't impressive looking)
they should just reuse this booster to cope with the financial damage of losing the ship
>>16552233
>>16552232please someone post the meme with elon saying this , i need t laugh
>>16552239a lot of those planes are cargo fedex, prime air and frontier
>>16552221>>16552210>This the captain. We are turning around to avoid reentering space debrisPretty futuristic.
>>16552243Who reads that shit?
>>16552232t-the data
>>16552207>there are now multiple trained professional assassins in LEO
>>16552221>>16552210imagine being a pilot and seeing this shit falling from space
>>16552245>not saying that they weren't ICBMsakshully the Russian strikes were MIRVed IRBMs, basically the first two stages of a three stage ICBM
>>16552145https://x.com/FlyerXT/status/1880027458642350095https://x.com/nickpags45/status/1880028951885816056https://x.com/xrae/status/1880026296211894652>>16552205
what is he thinking right now?
>>16552246The ship was gonna be lost either way, there was no financial damage unless they get fined, and even then, they have enough money to write blank cheques for anything.
>>16552248I'm crying, anonI'm fucking cryig here and you want a laugh?!?!
>>16552246the ship would be lost either way, the problem lies with not completing the test and now having the FAA on their neck
https://x.com/thunderf00t/status/1880026117157040445he's a blue origin fan now kek
>>16552200Probably leaking with the actively cooled test tiles
Thunderf00t livestreamed all the successes of starship, and now, the one time it failed, he wasn't streaming.Coincidence? I think not.
>>16552132>god gives David Lynch his final sendoffKINO
>>16552259>gotta argue with ecelebs on twitter
>>16552166Case closed. Bezos airbus fitted with lasers to shoot down starship.
>>16552243Not an autopilot button - not my problem.
>>16552259>we're gonna get so much free advertisement... gotta plug Starlink in there somehow...
>>16552263So it is just Elon he hates, did Musk fuck his mom or something?
>thunderfag is the lucky charm for spacexwhat a twist!
>>16552259>how can there be fires in space if there are no forests in space?
>>16552266he didn't stream flight 6 either
>>16552243There isn't a wide no fly corridor going around the earth. That would be silly.
>>16552263blue origin didn't catch their launcher
>>16552210Wew, FAA will keep them grounded until next year for this
>>16552223>not even IFTWhat the fuck are we even doing here?
>>16552263>reusable rockets >:(>reusable amazon rockets :o
>>16552259>Grrrr I can't believe these filthy gamer peasants realized I'm a fake gamer
>>16552259>his long time rival bezos finally made it to orbit with a real competitor of a rocket>bent the knee to the rat king asmongold>lost his prized spaceship>FAA investigation pendinghe's fumbling for his drugs right now while screaming in an incoherent rage
>>16552284skill issue
I'm starting to realise this was never possible. How the fuck are you ever going to land a giant ass metal tin with up to 50 people inside on a barren, toxic wasteland millions of kilometres away all controlled by a computer. Mars is never happening. I said it. It's never happening. I'm crying right now.
>>16552223>RUD>Not FTS activation>>16552210>dozens of planes in the immediate areaMan this is really bad
>>16552257haven't seen that nickpags one
>>16552197We rocketocracy now
Better have the paperwork ready, it isn't that easy in rocketry.
There are some retards on Bluesky saying Elon came on to interrupt the stream to talk about crypto. They clicked on one of the impersonation channels, kek
V1ndicated
>>16552259>fucking asmongold
What do you think will happen in Flight 8, anon?> Repeat of Flight 7, trying to make Spaceship not blow upor> Straight to the original plan, trying to catch Starship with the chop sticks
>>16552287>How the fuck are you ever going to land a giant ass metal tin with up to 50 people inside on a barren, toxic wasteland millions of kilometres away all controlled by a computervery carefully :^)
>ship lost>lost comms >all telemetry lost>nobody has any ideas what went wrong>"eeerrr FAA yeah we understand the issue ... ehhhh uhhhh it here uhhh "
reminder that raptor 314 got reused and has been tower-caught twice
>>16552257
>>16552263https://x.com/thunderf00t/status/1879873143055282684Bezos-bros, thunderf00t is one of us now!
>>16552296lmao
will elon stop posting on x and fighting asmongold and go nuclear on spacex now?
>>16552166Bout 20 planes redirected, goin back, or in holding pattern kek. https://www.flightradar24.com/TSC498/38c0ae11
>>16552287Yes. We will all die on this comfortable blue rock. Mankind gave it a half-assed shot and is gonna collapse and degrade into irrelevancy.
Good thing Musk bought the FAA & won't have to worry about this shit.
>>16552287Gonna go play some No Man's Sky tonight to drown my tears
>>16552304lucky engine
>>16552301I think they'll double down
>>16552296>use fake retard twitter>click fake retard streamschecks out
>>16552311Yeah right
>>16552294Thank you very much
>>16552259>I'm a REAL gamer
>>16552305
>>16552301depends on if they lock down what went wrong and fix it 100% for next flightthey could go straight for catch if they do that I think. The "stresspoint" testing is just an excuse to do another flight to test for problemsYes I am coping
>>16552301>Flight 8Anon, I don't know how to tell you this... Starship is done
>>16552304super based
>>16552306Nooglin's payload doesn't count when it doesn't detach from the stage.
>>16552308>Elon already on the edge over PoE account boosting suspicions>Starship blows upI wouldn't want to work in SpaceX management right now, kek.
>fights rat king>loses>the Lord smites your rocketTime to put down the ketamine elon
>>16552320
>>16552289FTS is not scheduled it's RUD. That's why it's a pretty shit term.
>>16552259>Another fucking Diluc pull
>>16552325disagree, integrated payloads are based and atlas pilled
>>16552329
>>16552288
>>16552316Why wouldn't he make it easier for himself?
time to invest in $ROPEsee you guys
>>16552338kek
>debree hits Venezuelayup, it's kino time
I say "PFA", you say "sorry"PFA
>>16552318fake news fake vaccines fake gamersI hate the 2020s
>clear stream endedalright time to kill myself
>>16552346faggot
>>16552346what a disgusting, fat pig
>>16552132>>16552203>2045>loss of the USSF Washington during an engagement with Chinese forces in LEO
Elon is so paranoid at this point that he'll probably suspect sabotage.
>>16552301they aren't going to try to catch it before they have a one or two successful precise water landings with a specific configurationthis flight showed why, making big changes could have big consequences
When they finally try to catch Starship, will it go into an orbit around earth to return to the tower? Or will just to up, have the regular stage separation and go straight down?
>>16552346nigger
>>16552346PressureFedSigma wonKyplanet wonEager lost
>>16552111At least the booster looks fine, do you think they will attempt a static fire with the booster?
>>16552287dog we started out throwing rocks at deer and wearing leaves, one prototype rocket failure is way too early to call it never
>>16552322They could determine the failure point on CRS-7 because of the travel time of the initial shock to different sensors. There have so much instrumentation they should have no trouble eventually figuring out the root cause.
Yeah , i got it , its bad , its really bad. But look at the bright side, they discovered a critical failure point
my grandmother's reaction to the tower catch was "well yeah isn't that what rockets are supposed to do"
>>16552259I used to rule the world. Rockets would rise when I gave the word Now in the mornin', I sleep aloneSweep the launch pads I used to own
>>16552343So, how many fake debris stories and suing SpaceX shit will we get in the coming few days
>>16552333it was an empty fucking satellite launcher ring, with zero satellites on it, it goes back down with the second stage
>>16552353
>>16552346who is this man?
>>16552338KEK OH LORD A SPOKESMAN SAID THIS IS THE ONE THING WE DID NOT WANT TO HAPPENhttps://youtu.be/SRRw1ERj2Gchttps://youtu.be/SRRw1ERj2Gc
>>16552355Ask again in couple years
Scott Manley : Given that this is disrupting aircraft downrange, I would be wanting an investigation before I let starship fly again. I'd want to know what kind of debris risk we're dealing with, starship is big and designed to handle reentry. Is the explosion the result of a tank failure or the FTS? We might reasonably ask whether trying to destroy such a large object is the best option in an emergency or whether it's safer to let it come down in as few pieces as possible>its over
>>16552363Based obaba-san
>>16552367You forgot about the digital postcards :^)
>>16552355it will have to do a number of orbits
so was this the full stack equivalent of sn 11 ?
>>16552366All of it
>>16552362Failure point that didn't exist in previous ship, they should be upgrading and not downgrading
>>16552363boomers should just die, mainstream media successfully brainwashed all of them
rock a bye booster
>>16552290>>16552145some of these might be new too, not sure, didn't really check if duplicateshttps://x.com/brakeyourcycle/status/1880028197208686869https://x.com/Fernando91RO/status/1880029801270096129https://x.com/ActualSpaceX/status/1880032399784047000https://x.com/JsLampe/status/1880031530048991266https://x.com/Fernando_AF14/status/1880026005865394686just searched spacex and starship hashtags until I got throttledalso saw these going aroundhttps://x.com/Sitting_Analyst/status/1880033972748709995https://x.com/jp_ouellette/status/1880029255813459973https://x.com/johnsferra_/status/1880035699023573221https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-S8CK6LgnD4
>>16552362good thing SpaceX has basically unlimited money now with Starlink (and investor interest) and a friendly government stepping in in less than a week
>>16552183at least BONG can get to orbit
It always amazes me how quickly people can turn on someone
>>16552299Roach king sama… I- I- I kneel!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHyaVvekWekI TOLD YOU GUYS IT WAS JUST LIKE TRANSFORMERS
>>16552374To me it looks like it blew up once it hit the atmosphere, considering all the debris immediately started glowing. IFT didn't even work. They lost all contact and telemetry?
>>16552383you can see that was right when starship started failing, while our jaws were still on the floor from catching a fucking skyscraper on two steel knuckles
>>16552379I guess
Starship only has to one way land a mars slave colony.
>>16552374FTS should obviously be used if Starship goes into an uncontrolled flight path, a partially melted ship crashing into an apartment block in some 3rd world country wouldn't be great for the program. Maybe if America becomes based enough to not care.
>>16552306This guy is such a fuckin caricature lol. What the fuck is his problem, he's so tilted and emotionally invested
Imagine you're on vacation, flying to your cool carribean island and then you have to fly to fucking Miami because some lazy pajeet didnt superglue the tile on a rocket Butterfly effect
>>16552392The camera cut to the starship a few seconds after another cut from that, and almost instantly lost signal, so ye
>>16552287At least we solved the Fermi paradox and found the great filter.
>>16552397>blue checkhe's doing it for the engagement, he's ironically making muskbucks off his gimmick posting
>>16552392>>16552400notice how one of the three center engines goes out at the end
>>16552387what the fuck
>>16552363shes right
Imagine the heat tiles bombarding earth
>>165523845 of them I haven't seen (Fernando91RO, JsLampe, Fernando_AF14, sitting_analyst and johnsferra)and I guess the youtube vid too
>>16552403>engagementTurning himself into a lolcow for engagement? He actually used to be reasonable way back when I was young and skinny
>>16552267okay that's kino
>>16552411they probably float down rather lightly once at sea level tho
there are multiple flights over the Turks and Caicos Islands that are diverting back to north americaclick on random airplanes in the areahttps://www.flightradar24.com/N110QS/38bff5f3i dont think we yet understand how bad this is
>>16552399Very nice
>>16552346dickcheese
>>16552420Elon is getting arrested
Post your honest reaction to flight 7
so what now? we go into a coma again? How likely is it that we get a new flight next month? please lie to me and say it will happen
>>16552420SpaceX is getting sued for sure
Chris Hadfield@Cmdr_HadfieldLots to learn for @SpaceX from these Starship disintegration videos, unfortunately. Hopefully no one hurt. Glad the first stage was successfully caught. Onwards to improvements for Flight 8.
>>16552420I think I do. It's actually over. Was fun while it lasted bros.
>>16552426Extremely unlikely
>>16552131Even if we had a mars base right now you wouldn't be able to go in your lifetime
Now imagine if this shit had blown up over some major city, e.g. LA or NY... absolute kino
>no FTS but RUD>massive debris field of the caribbean>flights having to literally dodge the debrisYeah, this unironically really fucking bad. We're not getting flight 8 until at least May.
>>16552420>>16552428>>16552432this may be the start of the end for m*sk and starsh*t
>>16552388dont fuck with gamers
>>16552395>partially melted starship demolishes one orphanage/children's hospitalvs>debris rains down on the capital of Niggerland, thousands dead
>blue origin rocket blew up>nobody cares>spacex rocket blew up>INVESTIGATE THEM NOWi see right through yall
Hey Elon, about that flight 8 license, we need to talk
>>16552426i mean, its serious shit, FAA will trigger an investiGAYshion that will take minimum 1 month + 1 month turnaround = 2 to 2,5 months from now
>>16552425The HLS demo is going to be delayed and I fucking hate it
Okay, from the videos and people going on with their lives, the life looks chill on these Turks and Caicos islands. Redpill me on them. I need to look to some nice place to comfy retire in due time.
>the moment FAA gets intimidated into giving spacex licenses left and right this happensyeah, no. It's fucking over. no more launches until Q3
>>16552420I think I do. Turn on multi-select and check each plane in the area.https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=4241b7,346045,346310,3465c5,a9b755,a00b2d,a84d62,a075a3,0c217c
>>16552439Small debris burn up, except for the tiles
>>16552440How many flights were diverted because of Blue Origin's failure?
>>16552420Uhh... This isn't good, is it?
>>16552378You can do once around, it just has to launch to a specific inclination.
>>16552434that's why I said (we) bakaI'm not even american, I know I ain't going there.
>>16552436>MayAnon...
>>16552425
>>16552436I unironically think this is game over for Starship.
>>16552145>>16552384possibly more, still didn't check if they were duplicateshttps://x.com/UlgenSpace/status/1880035190053171508https://x.com/goLoko77/status/1880031499346670028https://x.com/newselfdestruct/status/1880031731019051244https://x.com/Grantjemima_16/status/1880027402954514513
>>16552445Something tells me the FAA is cucked and brought to heel.
SpaceX should stop fooling around and focus on getting an expendable variant of Starship into orbit.
>>16552453May of 2026, checks out
>>16552420KEK, the mars dream is overmight as well kill myself now
>>16552428>lots to learn
he's so lucky that Trump won
>>16552457This is something that they won't be able to ignore even with trump as president
even if the FAA doesn't issue a new license for flight 8 isn't there still time today to put another Starship on Superheavy, load it up and go again today under the Flight 7 license
>>16552365As soon as I saw that I told my wife no way it's coming back down in 1 piece. I was guessing that it would blow up on re-entry, but imagine that floppy bit of metal breaking off and hitting the hull when the Starship was hauling ass while still in relatively thick layer of atmosphere.
>>16552465kek
>>16552463They ignored Boeing using scrap parts and dish soap as door seal lubricant.
>>16552462CAN YOU IMAGINE this failure with Kamala as president HAHAHA
>>16552426a month or two longer compared to what it would have been with a successful flightI wonder if someone is getting fired, I doubt they were going for a test this destructivesomething got fucked with the fuel system
Surely nothing else can go wrong for Elon after all those disasters, luck has to eventually turn around, right?
As always, doomposters are retarded
Behold! the only viable american super heavy lift rocket
>>16552458They should just make a flat top second stage with a massive fairing. They can crank out a launch a month and keep the heavy lift needs satisfied that has not existed since buran
If I understand this right, what we had until now wasn't actually the Starship, but rather a toy just to make hype, akin to "fake it till you make it". Now, this was something closer to the real starship, and it failed miserably.I think this is indeed a clue that this shit has no future.
>>16552455all according to plan and right on schedule
ELON TWEET Success is uncertain, but entertainment is guaranteed!
>>16552475we need dedicated cameras in puerto rico
>>16552472Fire from the flap hinge in total vacuum indicates both oxygen and methane leaking, not good.
SpaceX is fucked. It's actually over. Holy fuck.
>tfw you'll never see something as beautiful as this in your lifetimeFor fucks sake, even the sunlight was in the golden hours. I don't think anybody truly understand the absolute KINO some people got to see.
Lmao
>>16552481CRINGE
>>16552481i hope the debris kills someone so this tweet looks bad
Elon is drunk
>>16552474kek
>>16552485Uh oh.
>inb4 media and normie outrage like NEVER beforeAre we forgetting that china literally drops boosters with carcinogenic plumes ONTO their people and nobody gives a shit??? Only fucking hypocrites would complain about SpaceX now
>>16552495It's on their own people and not on everyone in the world.
>>16552481Good to know he thinks putting people at risk is 'entertainment'.
>>16552490he's high on ketamine
>>16552486yeah i think this was as close to seeing c-beams glittering in the dark near the tannhauser gate as anyone will ever get
>I AM OFFICIALLY ACCEPTING APOLOGY SUBMISSIONS
>>16552484I have a weird feeling they used some cleaning agent that caught on fire and I will not elaborate
https://www.liveatc.net/hlisten.php?mount=tjsj4_app_ctr&icao=tjsj
>>16552485>debris falls from the sky kilometers from the plane>UHHH PAN PAN PAN HELP ME ATC I'M SCARED>enters a holding pattern>stays there for an hour after the debris fell>MAYDAY MAYDAY BINGO FUELtruly musk's fault
>>16552475so no investigation necessary? I would imagine the FTS activating would mean an investigation in any case even if there wasn't danger to flights due to the NOTAM
>>16552485How is this possible without the planes violating NOTAM at the first place? Isn't NOTAM designed to prevent this from happening?
>>16552436It's genuinely so fucking OVER. Should have just manually activated the FTS the moment the saw the fucking flames.
>>16552495>>16552477you are a retard shill
>>16552495normies are mostly maga now, and don't care
>>16552500NO
>>16552505see >>16552252
>>16552504>so no investigation necessary?Not now that Musk owns the FAA.
>>16552505there's two stages to the NOTAM, a "don't fly here" zone near Boca and the further out "if you fly here watch for falling rocket parts" zone farther out, it fell in the second zone
No ift 8 until july right bros?
>>16552487these pilots are retarded
>>16552500Fuck you, more launches. Clear the way for the mars empire.
Another tweet from Elon : https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1880041663546249251Improved versions of the ship & booster already waiting for launch
>>16552495This, we need to import more H1B geniuses so we can drop rockets onto them to beat china.
trannies mad
Boomers got a great fireworks show on their vacationshttps://x.com/KingDomRedux/status/1880027949862384107
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1880041663546249251huh I thought S34 just got cryotestedstill need to get modified for the failure case that happened during this flight + static fire it (in the very least)
>>16552506Are the pilots and passengers okay ?!
Bonjur gentlemen, operation Blue Ring has succeeded as expected beyond our expectations
>>16552487>Amazon Air>Prime Airlel
>>16552519uh oh big stinky
What is he thinking?
>>16552504It will be necessary, however >>16552165
https://x.com/mcrs987/status/1880042280163373515
We now have Jet Blue and Iberia crossing the debris trail.>oh no
>>16552516I doubt it
>>16552516Oh Elon, you're not getting clearance any time soon. Starship is done. SpaceX is done. The Mars vision is done. Enjoy spending the rest of your pathetic life in prison for causing dozens of planes to crash and killing innocent third worlders with rogue heat tiles!
>>16552524he launched?
>>16552528Musk says the next ones are already waiting, not months long test campaign necessary >>16552522 >>16552516
>>16552522Stupid african american youve been saying this since 2023 and its just getting worse
>>16552530based Spanish conquistadors not afraid of anything
>>16552516>already waiting for launchWE GAAAAAN, only launch license remains then
>>16552534As if Elon is trustworthy
>>16552524was 5 seconds away from posting that exact imagekek
>>16552529okay so did it or did it not go outside the NOTAM?this seems to suggest it did
>>16552478Totally. At SpaceX rate of production, they can maintain orbital depot with expendable tankers. Cut the tiles, header tanks, etc and make the SHSS architecture functional first before pursuing reusability.
>>16552502oh they are actually talking about debris
>>16552534>>16552538>believing what that retard says
Nobody cares about the booster catch anymore ... something that was deemed impossible just a few months ago
>>16552259Where's the quaaludes
>>16552532>raining burning ceramic projectiles down on browns while pushing towards the Mars empireholy fucking based
>>16552546We were promised Mars years ago...
>>16552546>something that was deemed impossible just a few months agoit's the easiest thing to do
>>16552534And in reality:Booster 15>cryo test on 28th December 2024>no SF fire yethttps://starship-spacex.fandom.com/wiki/Booster_15_(B15)Ship 34>no cryo yet>no SF tethttps://starship-spacex.fandom.com/wiki/Ship_34_(S34)No idea if they even have engines installed
EDS faggots losing their fucking minds againFlight 8 will happen in a number of months
>>16552506Wtf I see multiple people flying
>>16552542Makes sense if only one side of the ship was thrusting for a few seconds
when we load humans into starship?
>>16552554Of course they're flying, they're in a plane.
>>16552552I thought S34 went to do cryo?SF aren't going to take that long, they are almost routine nowengine installation isn't some months long process either, they can probably do it in a day
>>16552481w-were they right?
>>16552546Meanwhile reaching the orbit is supposedly the easy part and yet, 7 flights and still not there
Do you think there is some spy infiltrated working for SpX that sabotaged Ship 33 ?
>>16552552what's wrong with booster 14 it's right there just load it up again
dubs and plane gets hit by debris
>>16552562Some woman drilled the fuel lines.
>BRAP
>>16552546Nobody ever doubted the catch would work
>>16552555>this is exactly what happened according to the telemetry Uh oh
>>16552554>Finally some free space for my legs, fuck them cramped flights
>>16552546Everyone would be talking about it if the ship didn't blow the fuck up. That's more significant.Elon needs to get away from his yes men and get someone who keeps him on track. Why the fuck would you prioritize being a lolcow over managing a rocket company flying most of the mass to orbit that exists
>>16552566I remember that
Memes aside how fucked are they because of this lightshow?Will FAA ground them for a while?
>AIRSPACE OPENS UP IN 5 MINSAIRSPACE OPENS UP IN 5 MINS>AIRSPACE OPENS UP IN 5 MINSAIRSPACE OPENS UP IN 5 MINS
>its up
>>16552573They will
>>16552544Now someone talked about declaring an emergency again, it's over.
Another aircraft soon to declare emergency
DEBRIS SEEN FROM PLANE COCKPIT
>>16552562It’s more likely than you’d think.Mexico is right there and is the largest concentration of russian spooks and chinese spooks outside of russia and china themselves.That said i’d still find it unlikely.
>>16552579Holy shit SpaceX is done lmfao
>>16552579Sauce on this one, I want the audio
>>16552126Has anything like this ever happened and been filmed? I've never seen this kind of thing outside of Columbia, and that was much smaller.
>>16552579KINO
>>16552573Since it was a very not routine failure ie the flight path was fucked per >>16552529 a delay for a full investigation would not even be unfair desu.
>>16552579fuuuuuck imagine being on that plane and seeing it live
>>16552579Is it legal to do this???
Live reaction of SpaceX's chief lawyer
>>16552582no audio https://x.com/_thatonedolphin/status/1880043659099533342
booster re-use when?
It was bezos
>>16552346I have always valued PFA's opinion, muskfags hated him because he had a good point.
>>16552561yes because they aren't trying to reach orbit, they are trying to develop a second stage that is able to return from orbital velocities in a controlled manner and land precisely in a specific spot (which they have done twice already)developing rapidly reusable heat shields etc is the difficult part, not going to orbit
>>16552575NONONONONOOOO
>>16552594exploding before you experience reentry prevents meaningful reentry data from being collected
>>16552579
>>16552579we at warsaddam hussein is bombing us
>>16552588He looks like a nice guy.
FAA Tomorrow:>I will SMITE StarshipFAA on Jan 20:>Starships are meant to fly!
https://x.com/StephenClark1/status/1880028387516813527from the other Arstechnica space reporter if you happened to forget the name
>>16552575Following spaceflight and the Starship program has taught me more about vtubers than I ever thought I'd learn
>>16552596What a disingenuous post
>bo succeds>spacex failsDid you expect that
Someone explain to me this video, because i dont understand it
it went outside the notam zoneits actually over
>>16552603>setbacknot really no
>>16552605this was a bad flight even by starship standards
>>16552583We got some similar footage when a Long March 5B core reentry roulette'd over the Philippines back in 2022
>>16552596yes but that wasn't what you were whining about
Surely the investigation won't take that long, surely they will fly again before summer, right?
>>16552579the feel must have been surreal
>>16552616my sides
>>16552611That has nothing to do with the post you were replying to
>>16552617yeah, investigations arent that long
>>16552599armageddon
>>16552617It'll take longer than we'd like but no where near as long as the doomers think it will.
The debris reentry is gonna be spiraled into something significantly worse than it actually is by normies and the media, the overreaction of ATC and all those aircraft certainly doesn't help.
>>16552617>Surely they will fly again Anon...
OK, I understand the "go fast and break things" mentality, testings things and letting them blow up instead of endless simulations, but after so many years of development and 7 test flights, shouldn't we be seeing more progress? Is it time to start thinking that starship is a bad design?
>>16552617The FAA was publicly spanked just months ago for being too stringent, they're going to have a field day.
Has he been redeemed?
>>16552606BO reached orbit, which is pretty run of the mill for even smallsat launchers, failed to land a booster which has been done only by one other company (SpaceX)SpaceX landed a booster (again), but failed to test the actual systems they were mostly trying to testbut yeah I guess this is more right than wrong, very unexpected for Starship to blow up at this stage
>Towards the end of the second stage burn the Ship vented excess liquid oxygen, resulting in a fire in its aft section and loss of the vehicle.
>>16552557Now listen here you little shit
>>16552631Dejavu
>>16552624The normies will forget by the end of the news cycle and the media is going to be losing all of their shit over the inauguration on Monday. SpaceX isn't going to be anywhere near their radar
>it's been a rough day today - ATCElon is going to be GRILLED
>>16552616its easy in deorbitery
>>16552626a second successful catch is important progresseveryone's overreacting for the memes but this was a good flight for booster and a bad flight for ship, it'll probably require an investigation but it's not the end of the program
>>16552631No way they made the same mistake twice
>>16552614https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmffYcGl5uA&ab_channel=IanTheSpaceNerdStarship's debris cloud was way bigger, but this is the only thing that comes close.
nsf: faa just confirmed mishap investigation is likely
>NSF SAYS FAA IS AWARE ITS ACTUALLY OVER
>>16552626this was testing a new fuel piping system, the tanks were different etc a completely new version of shipbasically flight 1 of this new series, not flight 7
>>16552617the investigation will finish on january 20th for no reason in particular. yes, I am aware that it is a federal holiday.
all these pilots have to find tiny Caribbean airports at night kek
>>16552626There are no simulations to run when what you are trying to simulate has never been done. You will only get an approximation which is not enough
>>16552637so just stack a booster on top of a booster next time? it's that simple
>>16552626>Is it time to start thinking that starship is a bad design?Nyo. Timidity like this is exactly how you end up in a BO situation taking 10 extra years to copy the other guy's homework. It's a reason to change some processes not to shelve the thing
>>16552631why the fuck do they keep doing thatfor fucks sake
>>16552607i guess it broke apart in space and since it's space there was no explosion
>>16552644if they hadn't been panicky retards and entered hours long holds for a five minute debris event they'd be fine on fuel
>>16552575NOOOOOOOO MY OSHI NOOOOOOOOO
he has to delay it for 4 more days so trump gets into office and vetos this
Bezos : Kudos to you and the whole SpaceX team on the flawless booster catch! Very impressive.
ATC is chaos
>>16552631No way this was at the end of second stage burn.
>>16552637>a second successful catch is important progressit's not you retarded shill
>>16552657repeated success is key in proving it was not a fluke
>>16552641>NSF SAYS FAA IS AWAREWhy wouldn't they be, we all watched the same thing.
>>16552641how wouldn't they be retard
>>16552606>>bo succeds>>spacex fails>Did you expect thatI expected both to (mostly) succeed, as such I wasn't surpised that BO managed to get into orbit but fail to catch the booster. I was however surprised to find out that Starship disintegrated, I thought it would make it back partially melted at worst.
>>16552579I legit want a plane to crash and lives to be lost just to fuck over Elonending digits, do it.
>>16552637It's completely overshadowed by the dozens of angles of the apocalyptic debris shower
FAA : "The FAA is aware an anomaly occurred during the SpaceX Starship Flight 7 mission that launched from Boca Chica, Texas, on Jan. 16. The FAA is assessing the operation and will issue an updated statement."
>>16552655which one you listenng to?
>>16552659it's the most pointless part about it, shit can't even fly into space
>>16552626shit happens anon, in flight 1 the whole rocket spiraled a few times before exploding.final versions of Starship will look nothing like the current one, v3 is way taller, will have new engines etc.
>>16552657of course it is retardthis needs to be routine and the fact that they had to divert on the previous one showed that things can still go wrong
>>16552631I thought the whole "go fast and break things" was to speed up the learning process but they don't appear to be learning Assuming it's the reason for break up
>>16552668this is bait
>>16552663your case is as terminal as flight 7
>>16552503thats modern flight in a nutshellanother plane within 2 miles HELP ME FAA
>>16552656>>16552631Burning inside the flaps suggests the inside was burning and they should have footage of that
UH OH WHY IS THERE A SEARCH AND RESCUE HELI UP
"We don't have much gas to play with. We're not gonna be able to hold that" - pilot on ATC just now
>>16552664normies love fireworks it's fine
>>16552673I was 3 off, dammit satan
How am i gonna recover from this ?
>>16552667https://www.liveatc.net/hlisten.php?mount=tjsj4_app_ctr&icao=tjsj
>>16552670>>16552672it's completely pointless you retard if it can't fly into space
>>16552677Then land you fucking fool.
>>16552639Starship also weighs about 100 tons dry compared to the LM-5's ~20 ton core stage, and the LM-5 doesn't have nearly as many reentry-resistant components
>>16552677Why are they still holding
>elon becomes progressively mentally retarded after buying twitter>starship program flounders and keeps RUDing due to random easily preventable errors (flights 2, 3, 7), making near zero progressIt can't be a coincidence right
What would happen if a plane crashed because of Starship
>>16552680> starlink deploy simulator damn, I completely forgot about these. Would be kino to watch
>>16552590kek
>>16552680the starlink deploy demo was kinda important, they're gonna want to try it suborbitally before deploying actual 'links with itthis failure probably adds an extra suborbital test flight to the program
>>16552677then stop fucking holding
Engines warped as hell yet again. How long until they realize they need a reentry burn?
>>16552682
yfw you are in a Caribbean airplane now
So, in the end, where did the debris ended up falling?
>>16552682this is like saying the only important part of Falcon is the second stage, but that's fucking stupid and everyone knows that's stupid and the first stage reusability is what made it take over the launch marketStarship is nothing without fully and rapidly reusable Superheavy, booster cadence is actually more important than ship cadence
>>16552687pilot incompetence, no one would care
>>16552610yeah actually this is a good thing right?
>>16552669Why even fly this one then?What's the point of iterative development if you don't ever make any progress and just keep failing at doing the same thing over and over?Falcon 9 wasn't like this.
>>16552687Starship will become the next spruce goose.
>>16552694>heat doesn't cause mirageskys
Flight 2 >Nov 18, 2023FAA finishes investigation>February 29, 2024Flight 3>March 14, 20244 month long gapMight be the same this timeor quickeror longer
>>16552641i would be more concerned if they weren't aware....
>>16552697beyond the environmentthere's nothing out there but birds, and fish, and lost pilots, and the parts of the ship that the debris fell off
>>16552661>>16552660>>16552707they shouldn't be aware tho
>>16552677Stupid No Nut November faggots
>>16552690it adds an identical flight, they need to basically re-do this thing again because the ship exploded before any of the new things got tested (or most, I guess the flap aerodynamics and avionics did get tested somewhat, and of course the new fuel system lmao)but they didn't test the payload system, relight the engine (which would have maybe tested the fuel system again?), didn't get to test the re-entry with new flaps and all the metallic heat shield tiles
>>16552674You do realize planes can travel at like 500 mph, right?That’s less than 15mins from death if you’re within 2 miles of another plane.
>>16552642oooh damn, thats actually a good new cope. everytime there is a failure, and something has been changed, just call it technically flight 1
>>16552694and yet they're in reflyable condition. curious
>>16552709anon if you try to hide a superheavy lift vehicle from the FAA you're in way more trouble than if they know you're flying one
>>16552682>sees car crash>OOHH YOU THINK CARS ARE USEFUL HUH?? LOOK AT THAT THEY CAN'T DO SHIT LOL THEY JUST EXPLODE This is just beyond retarded, obviously the ship exploding isn't good, but pretending like a failure proves it can't work after it worked multiple times before is goldfish memory logic
>>16552694do we know if this is actually bent engines or just atmospheric/heat distortion?
>>16552703>Falcon 9 wasn't like this.yes it was
>>16552696>pic titlewhat the fuck. I'm scared to go watch it.
>>16552703it's just like software development, as you introduce new features, you sometimes get new bugs.It's all about fixing the bugs quickly
>>16552716they still shouldn't be aware tho
>>16552711the new fuel system did get tested, the problem is the result was catastrophic failure, methane oxygen leak in the skirt into KB
This essentially pushes the HLS timeline (which was already ambitious) out of spring into late summer.
ITS OPEN
>Elon Musk MIRVs hundreds of airlinersYeah, this is going to congress floor. See you in a couple of years.
>>16552715>ONE engine having to go through considerable amount of refurbishment classifies as reflyable conditionLmao
>AIRSPACE IS OPEN>DEBRIS IS GONE
I don't care about gay shit like landing on hecking mars, this was more soulful than anything going to space could provide.
>>16552713>somethinglol
>>16552724the FAA shouldn't be aware because the FAA shouldn't exist, US airspace should be a free for all PvP zone
>>16552730aye but at what cost
This isn't the first time a Starship RUD on ascent (IFT-2), all doomtards need shut up lmao.
>>16552725thats what I said
>>16552645uhh that doesn't sound right
>>16552734hopefully a dozen dead cowardly pilots
>>16552706i think it'll be faster this time because they already have experience with handling a starship investigation
I still don't know why they don't just build this
>>16552736>This isn't the first time a Starship RUD on ascent (IFT-2)The fact that starship is having a problem like this nearly two years is not a good sign, it implies that they didn't resolve the issue.
>>16552490What an unserious person. Why is he acting like Slater and not like the Screech?
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1880048050858783097
>>16552740Or it's going to be much longer because it veered off course and endangered the public.
Airplanes that have been diverted are now landing we are about to get window seat views soon
>>16552720Every falcon 9 failure during development were during landing, it wasn't randomly exploding on its way to orbit.
>>16552733It won't exist in a few days.
>>16552742no it doesn't, this is a new version of shipwhy do you assume the issue is the same?
>>16552742That anon's post and your's are both fucking retarded for the same reason, there are no similarities beyond both involving the starship program and both going up. It's like comparing a grasshopper failure to a f9 failure
>>16552736yeah that's exactly the problem
>>16552690No, suborbital test flight is exactly the thing SpaceX need to stop doing. Make Starship expendable but orbital first.
why should the FAA care about what happens over other countries?
What if... SpaceX is moving too fast?
>>16552741There's no market for 550 tons to LEO, even with a low idealized $/kg and being extra thick.
>>16552686If you’re a bluesky midwit im just going to remind you if he ever sells twitter it’ll be to some other rightwinger. The old employee clique of twitter is gone, scattered to the fucking wind like Ift 7.If you’re genuinely concerned for his health then, yes your right, he needs to majorly recalibrate himself probably starting by putting the X addiction down.
>>16552754faa is the premier government agency managing aircraft for most of the planet
Elon is in absolute damage control right now lmaoFlooding internet with cool landing and cool explosion but not a single word about the dozens of flights and thousands of people not reaching their destination because of his rocket lmao
>>16552756
>>16552753If the Starlink dispenser chucks out a bunch of mass simulators in LEO how are they going to deorbit? Sure they'll be too low to be a long term issue but it's about principle
>>16552631Just fucking keep it heavy you dumbfucksWHO CARES ABOUT EXCESS SLOP IN THE FUELBAY
>>16552756just build it a little smaller, 100 tons or something(thanks for the pic didn't have this one yet)
>>16552732yea?
>>16552759who the fuck cares about these nigger cattleprobably the coolest thing they've ever seen in their lives and all at the cost of a few hours of delay
My feed is packed with the breakup videos. Everyone is using them
At least we got nice photoshttps://x.com/johnkrausphotos/status/1880051591514136859
>>16552767of course they are they're fucking gorgeous
>>16552746there already is one in this thread
>>16552762Either release them before orbital insertion, or put a small solid motor on each of them.Or just use real Starlink sats.
>>16552766People who don't have autism would rather get home to their loved ones than see a failed basedence experiment.
>>16552758sounds gay
>>16552757I've been on this general since 2019
>RUD was actually RSD and an advertisement campaign>whole world will be talking about spacex and elon nowNEVER BET AGAINST MUSK
>>16552759Elon's fragile ego is his critical failing. That said in this case he probably also is legally advised to not start talking fault
>>16552770The cockpit one?
>>16552288ZEN ZEN ZEN
>>16552772fuck emthey can go cry in the corner away from people with SOUL
>>16552770would be very funny if it was uploaded over starlink
>>16552776Who would be at fault here expect him? The laws of physics?
>>16552759Those were cargo flights
>>16552761This dumb bitch keeps failing that simple task
>>16552777yea
An hour ago :"IBE0379 declared an emergency due to fuel and was told by atc to cross the debris field at their own risk."
If a mediocre subtard had their own rocket company, what would they do differently than SpaceX?
>>16552111>>16552126>>16552132>>16552151felon husk has finally lost the mandate of heaven从而开启了中土王国统治天体的 1000 年辉煌岁月
>American burning rocket parts fall on foreign seas and disrupt foreign air trafficI don't see why the FAA should be involved at all 2bh
>>16552750>this is a new version of shipWasn't Startship v2 supposed to be developed off what SpaceX learned with v1?It's the same iteration plan ain't it?>>16552751SpaceX prioritized getting Falcon 9 to orbit first and then worked out booster recovery later.
>>16552779Sauce?
>>16552209sheesh
>>16552787I can already see the headlines in media, kek
>>16552759I would pay significant money for tickets on any of those flights, if they're going to get an up close view of a destructive reentry of a Starship they should appreciate the show and not bitch
the chance of debris hitting a plane is basically zero either way. not sure why the pilots are freaking out about it
>>16552788embezzle a lot of money, for one
>>16552764So something in the vein of Percheron? If so I agree.
>>16552798because they're stupiud and don't know any better
>>16552798>not sure why the pilots are freaking out about itair travel is incredibly safe and routine and it's made that way by pilots who are intensively drilled on flying exactly by the bookthere is no checklist for "a starship fell out of the sky vaguely near my flight path"
>>16552788I would develop starship as disposable first to get 100 tonnes to orbit. Then develop recovery of the booster and possibly a dreadnought triple booster version
>>16552792Boku no Namae Wa Pico
Good thing I didn't invite my friends to watch the launch
im going to sleep. What a fucking day
>>16552788ARCAspace exists (on paper anyways)
>>16552787S33 exploded about 5:45pm eastern, would there really still be debris falling an hour later? Are the tiles that floaty?
>>16552791>SpaceX prioritized blah blahCompletely irrelevant, all you needed to do was understand that the failures are at completely different stages of development and happening to what for most purposes are completely different craft with very few components if any in common and on completely different trajectories and flight plans
500 hours in paint
>>16552809yeah same, can't wait to wake up to a media meltdown...gnight
>>16552768There's larger size images on his site, but they're a pain to pull.https://www.johnkrausphotos.com/Galleries/Launches/Starship-Flight-Test-7
>>16552801yeah, just bigger, and launched from the ocean or a big pool
>>16552798You probably have a higher proportion of foreign pilots operating in the Caribbean that are not trained up to American standards. You'll also have a lot of American pilots who are trained up to our standards who manage to be even worse
>>16552787>due to fuelmethane and oxygen?afaik nothing in starship should be a hazardous material, they don't even use monoprop for their reaction controll thrusters, no?overall starship is pretty "green" and non-toxic, even when exploded and spread over a few square-miles.
>>16552820anon you're retarded
>>16552768this is some anime shit
>>16552814the successful flight of the booster exactly cancels out with the failure of the starship to equal nothing happening, they'll need an extra suborbital flight, it'll be like flight 7 never happened and spacex just did nothing for six monthsnothingbros undefeated
>>16552804Not necessarily the pilots but SOMEONE in the chain probably should have realized that gravity exists so a field of debris falling is transient
>>16552111
>>16552820they have been on a on-hold pattern for a while , they are running out of fuel
>>16552731I can honestly see a view that the starship program's real purpose/objective is as a kino/sovl-maxximizer.. like, we'll get to mars, sure, but only when the kino reserves are mined and it's time for new ones.
>>16552826put the booster on the right with nuglin
>>16552820lack of kerosene (in the jet [jet fuel {for the jet engines <on the jet declaring a fuel emergency>}])
>>16552151I didn’t even know she was sick
Hurray for Blue Origin! I hope we never hear from SpaceX or Elon Musk ever again. Also, I am very sad that Kamala Harris lost the election. VERY sad.
Wasn't V2 supposed to be an improved version?Did Pedro and Diego forget to tighten screws?
>>16552814Normally I don't care for jakslop, but I like this
>>16552834V2 is ugly as hell and it deserves the treatment N-1 got. On to (hopefully pretty) V3 Starship
>>16552830>>16552827oh, okay.uhh, just fcking stop the holding pattern and go land on an airport then?its been over a fcking hour, I doubt there's any starship debree still in the air.
>>16552837wojack is older than AI slop memes
>>16552503this was supposed to be a joke how are they STILL holding
>>16552806uuuhhhh, yeah... no.. not getting into that. Akira is after what I draw the line
>>16552580it flew right over Cuba, think about it
>>16552753That is retarded, they have a working eorkhorse alreadyStarship is about cost of mass to orbit
>>16552842I know, that's why I'm sick of it.
>>16552250It seems, in your anger at asmon, you killed her.
>>16552816Well let me introduce you to 2 plugins
Never mess with gamers
>>16552816>>16552852AndIf it's on my screen, I'm fucking getting it
>>16552847>cost of mass to orbitAnd "to orbit" is exactly the part SpaceX should focus on first.
>>16552855Wrong
"The FAA briefly slowed and diverted aircraft around the area where space vehicle debris was falling. Normal operations have resumed.A Debris Response Area is activated only if the space vehicle experiences an anomaly with debris falling outside of the identified closed aircraft hazard areas. It allows the FAA to direct aircraft to exit the area and prevent others from entering."The FAA confirming that there was debris was outside of the hazard areas.
>>16552855There is a world outside of shitposts where SpaceX is getting plenty to orbit, retard. The cost part is absolutely the important bit
This thread is called /sfg/. Why are people allowed to discuss sub-orbital rockets like Starship?
https://x.com/BCCarCounters/status/1880056482508484631>"The FAA briefly slowed and diverted aircraft around the area where space vehicle debris was falling. Normal operations have resumed.>A Debris Response Area is activated only if the space vehicle experiences an anomaly with debris falling outside of the identified closed aircraft hazard areas. It allows the FAA to direct aircraft to exit the area and prevent others from entering.">The FAA confirming that there was debris was outside of the hazard areas.
>>16552353he's going to blame it on asmongold
>>16552859>>The FAA confirming that there was debris was outside of the hazard areas.>debris was outside of the hazard areas.ITS ACTUALLY OVERINVESTAGTION IS REQUIREDITS OVER
>>16552859>The FAA confirming that there was debris was outside of the hazard areas.ITS FUCKING OVER
>>16552861It's space flight general, not orbital flight general
>>16552861this doesn't even work as a le clever gotcha because space is a region of.. space. and starship has been there.
/sfg/ - Suborbital Flight General
>>16552861suborbital space is space>nuh uh*asats you*heh, nothing personel
we need a second space age art wave
>>16552873starship is an art deco cathedral to humanity and the ego
What about Palekh miniature?
>>16552694Ignition rounds them out, so there's no point.
>Preliminary indication is that we had an oxygen/fuel leak in the cavity above the ship engine firewall that was large enough to build pressure in excess of the vent capacity. Apart from obviously double-checking for leaks, we will add fire suppression to that volume and probably increase vent area. Nothing so far suggests pushing next launch past next month.https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1880060983734858130
>>16552876what a lazy ass ms paint tier edit, you can see straight lines where he's cut the dust cloudsnsf are hacks
>>16552879Still probably need to have a conversation with the FAA about exclusion zone size, but this doesn't sound that bad
>>16552879Doomerbros....
>>16552879>Nothing so far suggests pushing next launch past next month.Uh-uh. It's not over until the FAAt lady sings.
>>16552879>>16552881reentry debris was outside the hazard zone per the FAA: >>16552863. Elon clearly doesn't give a shit. But regardless of what he thinks, the FAA will not grant SpaceX another license until after an investigation. Only way around that is if Trump intervenes via EO, declares national security importance, and grants SpaceX legal immunity to launch. But pulling that card, so early into his presidency, is basically asking for a revolt from all his constituencies.
>>16552879So basically there was a big boom between the engines and the ship which probably severed engine connections and in turn triggered FTS. I don't think Elon is taking FAA into consideration here lol.
>>16552126This is what hundreds of Starships arriving on Mars will look like
>>16552879Imagine losing your ship to the same design flaw twice, embarrassing
>>16552879>Nothing so far suggests pushing next launch past next month.Is he retarded or is it the drugs speaking?
>>16552126This looks amazing they should do it more often
>>16552886They investigated, isolated the problem, and will have an engineering solution mapped out by Monday. The only significant unanswered quesions are if the exclusion zones are sized appropriately. The rest of your speculation is completely fucking retarded
>>16552879>Nothing so far suggests pushing next launch past next month.WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK
>>16552880yeah they're beta males what did you expect? anyways they're selling it on their website if you want it.
>>16552879yeah, I'm hearing that we're back
Original patent-pending idea (DO NOT STEAL): Rockets that don't leak
>>16552484that's okay, it was outside the environment
>>16552879Fucking hell, I knew it would be something like this; IFT-2 all over again. >>16552150Hopefully the FAA investigation doesn't hold them up too much, and hopefully from now on planes planning to fly under the planned Starship flight path will just delay takeoff a little bit to account for the ~8-9mins the ship would take to get to its planned final velocity, just in case something like this happens again.Starship launches out of the Cape hopefully won't have this problem, at least not to this degree.
>>16552900in another environment?
>>16552893Screencap me faggot, prove me wrong. I'll be around.
jeffrey must be feeling ecstatic today
>>16552879>next monthMusk time lmao
not really a critique, but is starship the rocket with the greatest number of test flights BEFORE putting a useful payload into orbit? most others do it on #3 at the latest
>>16552906>Screencap me faggot, prove me wrong. I'll be around.
Good morning
>>16552910kek
>>16552908
>>16552917>>16552908Vanguard got a satellite up on the 3rd launch attempt.
>>16552287>leave living planet for dead planet>even if it worked, mars support would be a massive financial burden on earthIt's a retarded idea anyway
That booster catch is fucking unreal. I keep replaying it. I know it's a massive fucking feat of engineering, an incredible step forward in this space race, something I can tell my grandkids about how I was there, watching the live feeds (like people harping on about Apollo) but I can't feel it... it overwhelms me to the point of apathy & disbelief.
>>16552908It showed me even the most amazing things get boring fast when repeated
>25 LAUNCHES IN 2025 BROS......
>>16552924you had nothing to do with it
>>16552879Still doesn't explain the fire we saw in the forward flap hinge
>>16552927will be 2 launches lol
>>16552931It wasn't in the forward flap hinge
>>16552928oh look at mr grinch here
>>16552931The hinge location where the fire was visible is where that cavity above the engine firewall is.
>>16552931No, that was the aft flap lower hinge which pretty much lines up perfectly with propellants burning in the upper skirt
>>16552906prolly hit some sick PRs and then went ferociter mode on his boglina
>>16552870new glenn went to orbit
Why do people really think he'll have any trouble with the FAA after Monday? Don't you know how buying the government works?
>>16552886The investigation is performed by SpaceX, all the FAA does is sign off on it.
>>16552111Ironically, every single launch of Elon's Folly has been very successful in demonstrating the intellectual and cultural deficiencies that hobble the U.S. technology industry. From the beginning of the ridiculous strategy of welding together something vaguely rocket-like in a tent, every serious aerospace engineer (REAL, LICENSED engineers, not hobbyists, amateurs, or the uneducated with YouTube as a soapbox) knew it was utterly ridiculous and would never work. Other serious launch vehicles (including Falcon) are manufactured in clean, climate-controlled settings with precise methodologies arising from a combination of expert engineering talent and a legacy stretching back to the very origins of rocketry at Pernemünde. With the "Starship", musk decided to sidestep this and reinvent the wheel in a tent (After all, isn't he smarter than everybody else? He certainly believes so.) It was essentially a glorified hobbyist project no different in character than other inane diversions that billionares quench their boredom with. Raptor, arguably the only successful component, dates from an aforegoing R&D effort funded by the USAF for a high-energy upper stage, so its development followed rigorous practices and produced a functional result. (unlike "starship," which has failed in some way on each flight.)This sort of surreal incompetence is emblematic of the present technology and engineering sectors. I would intuitively imagine that its causes are multivariate, but almost certainly one among these is the inability of people today to think critically. The attrition of intelligence itself truly began in the 1990s, when we began offloading cognitive tasks to computers and mass networking inflated the value of communication.
>>16552943Why think critically about writing a letter when you can send an instant email instead? Over time, these abuses of technology proliferated into just "tech", which we might use to denote all the contraptions to offload mental effort and discourage/ divert from serious intellectual inquiry. It became even worse with smartphones inescapably short-circuiting the hedonic structures supporting cognition, apocalyptic with "TikTok", and the advent of AI has enabled us to avoid thinking even for trivial tasks. Why learn mental math when you have a calculator? Why practice your writing if a spell checker, "Grammarly" or "ChatGPT" can write for you?Education is also among the preeminently culpable structures for the erosion of intellect. Present-day mass education is more about establishing fixed patterns of reaction to authority. (Gatto, 2003) It is more rewarded to mindlessly memorize the narrow use-cases of some relation than to cultivate the deep understanding that gives rise to engineering insight. I teach an SI class, and the practice of such in no way involved arming students with analytical tools and turning them free to engage on the delightful (and truly rewarding) task of insight. Such inference, planning, or even desire is alien to them. They want to go back home and play computer games, or stare at their phone, which reduces teaching to "This is the law in question. Here are the types of problems that will be on the test. Here is the equation to be used for each type of problem," followed by rote reinforcement.
>Musk uses his newfound power as the US president by cutting the FAAs heel so SpaceX can launch quicker>immediately gets a huge disaster launch that endangers several flightscomical.karmical.proof that god exists and he wants shit to be fucking funny.
>The President says next flight still expect this monthWE ARE BACK BROS
>>16552944Another obstacle is cultural. Back in the 1950s when the U.S. aerospace industry was strongly expanding, almost all the engineering staff had some form of military experience, which taught them not to work as self-absorbed hooligans but as a team. People today, especially young people, are self-centered and have no idea how to put aside such a view of the world. The military VERY quickly extirpates that from people, and it stays with you for the rest of your life.Corporate culture is another problem entirely, but it compounds on the prior shortcomings. Most of those in executive positions are beset and blinded with a sense of personal superiority that they become detached from reality. This may only evoke inefficiency in other areas, but in engineering, it's fatal. Musk illustrates this excellently: the strategy of welding together 304 stainless rings to make a pressure vessel was obviously some drug-induced flight of fancy (Musk has admitted to being a drug user, smoking cannabis on a recording). Musk was so confident in his personal ability to solve problems that evidence indicating the insufficiency of such a method was ignored. For certainty's sake, BUILDING LAUNCH VEHICLES IN A TENT IS NOT A VIABLE MANUFACTURING METHOD. Intuitively, we could very reasonably expect the same mismanagement pattern to be present in a preponderant share of other companies.Hiring engineers is another problem. DEI efforts, which exclude the most qualified candidates, are a form of expensive signaling by corporate leadership that their company is strong, appealing to investors.
>>16552946
>>16552947Preponderant hiring of women is a different matter, which arises out of a desire by corporate leadership (which is almost exclusively male, in line with feminist critical theory) to exclude sexual competition and surround themselves with females. The complicated U.S. system of Title IX, "sexual harassment" laws, HR, etc. is not meant to actually protect women in line with emancipatory feminist objectives. Instead, it serves the purpose of a series of sexual laws that assert soft ownership of women and restrict female access to an exclusive cadre of elite men. It is actually strikingly similar to islamic sexual jurisprudence. A professional arena that is a transparent legitimating rationale for a personal sexual harem is not a fertile ground for engineering tasks. The spectacular engineering failures by groups like SpaceX and Boeing seem to indicate that technology is regressing into a form of mysticism, where even its practitioners hold a limited understanding of their trade. Innovation and technological development require a commitment to scientific truth that present educational, social, and technological factors all militate against. (Actual science, as in the rich empirical tradition that grew out of the Enlightenment instead of the statistical cargo cult McScience that frequently replaces it today.) Without dramatic social changes to support engineering, we face an ominous risk of being stuck on earth forever.
something something happy for you or sorry that happened
>>16552943>>16552944>>16552947>>16552951stfu chatgpt
>>16552346I KNEEL
>>16552949They didn't double check for leaks this time? I would have thought the hardworking geniuses from India would have thought about that.
>>16552959they only do singhle check
>>16552959sadly ITAR means only white people are hired. Indians could have saved starship
>>16552964wtf I love ITAR now?
>>16552879why don't they just install some fans in that area to blow the methane out?problem solved
>>16552965President Musk will make quick work of the pesky ITAR on January 20th.
God is testing us, bros. Keep the faith
>>16552259https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMCx7RmOb0w
>>16552132
>>16552288looks magical
>>16552976It is pretty in a melancholic way
>>16552443HLS is shit anyway
>>16552346kill, as they say, yourself
>>16552770be commercial passenger in window seatsee one of many Starship explode while in a commercial flighthave shit video skills and be a jobberoh well
>>16552373one of the most amazing things I've ever seen>>16552374good thing scott manley isn't in charge of the FAA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zC0K0YZEzg
>>16552988trash ass phone camera
You know this is something I never appreciated until I watched 7 of these IFTs. NASA designed a rocket that goes all the way to orbit in a single burn, with 4 engines.
https://x.com/DJSnM/status/1880080330797031695>Using common features I put a few of the debris videos together to extend the timeline
>>16552949>liked>retweeted>condemned hamas>good goy
Next time they should just fill Starship's hold with fireworks to put on a real show. 6 million ground bloom flowers would be awesome.
>>16552994modern post-processing makes everything look like fucking star citizen
>>16552943Well done anon your incredible intellect and unrivaled observation skills you have identified the entire point of the starship program and it's reason for existence.
uhoh debris doomers whats this???https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=starship-flight-7
I can't believe Ballast Bill is more based than /sfg/sure are a lot of fucking retards here today
>>16552964Database says 13% of SpaceX employees are H1B.
>>16552996
>>16553009what database? don't they all have to be US nationals?
>>16553005>please contact your local authoritieslol noI'm on my boat searching for souvenirs
>>16552954You are proving my point. Intellectual inquiry (even the non-serious form done as a pastime) is so foreign to young people these dats that they label it "AI". This is why rockets are exploding and planes are falling from the sky.The seventh Saturn V launch was Apollo 15. The seventh "starship" launch not only fails to make orbit but fails dramatically, goes off-course, and disrupts commercial air traffic. What if a fragment had hit an aircraft and we were instead discussing a 200+ casualty SAR operation at present? The answer is that SpaceX would never fly anything again. Musk continues to bring shame to the U.S. aerospace industry.
>>16553011good webm
today was a good day for spaceflight. its been so boring lately that we needed it.
>>16552579try to convince me this isn't magic (you will lose)
>>16553019it's a good time to be a space enthusiast, can't wait to reminisce on it a decade from now
>>16552998*three burns*seven enginesyou forgot the SRBs and the core doesn't put ICPS fully in orbit
>>16552603I have always hated this guyHis articles are shitHe is the Jim Cramer of spaceflight
>>16552603where's the lie
>>16552626>three generations ahead of the rest of the world>this is too slowyou are retarded
>>16552629no
>>16552998>with 4 engineswould you believe they did it with three?
>>16552653good thing we're set for a three day weekend
>>16553002you fucks made my wife cry???
>>16552607Best shot I've seen yet since it shows the whole thing from start.
>>16552759>thousands of people on delayed flightsnigger, air canada does that every 30 minutes
>NASA is paying Firefly $101 million for its payloads to ride with Firefly to the Moon, plus another $44 million for developing the instruments themselves.yeah thats way too much. cut it $40 million total. and not cost plus.
>>16552938There's probably like 200 people on Earth that could translate this entire comment >>16553016If you can't say it concisely then you can't say it
>>16553044I feel like I'm one of them
>>16553044>If you can't say it concisely then you can't say itreason being?
>>16552954niceI wish there was a second signSINEKASUSHIH-NEH-CUH-SUE
>>16553016>The seventh "starship" launch not only fails to make orbit but fails dramaticallyIt's supposed to fail. It's very amusing to me that you "intellectuals" simply can't comprehend the fact that the flight is a test. They have stated they're developing the vehicle like software. Meaning a lot of constant testing of the state the vehicle as it is and learning from failure. Hence why there's so many cameras on it. It is only a "failure" to you because you're forcing your own framework on the rockett development and you simply won't accept the reality that they're not developing it the way you want to.
>>16553016>This is why rockets are exploding and planes are falling from the sky.Is it also why Apollo 6 failed to get to the correct orbit, the SM for Apollo 13 suffered a catastrophic oxygen tank explosion, and 3 astronauts were cooked alive in the Apollo 1 incident? Not to mention the huge number of failed launches and other anomalies and mishaps involving non-Apollo rockets and space hardware in the 50s and 60s.
MAKESTARSHIPSMALLERFFSHOW MANY TIMES DO STRUCTURAL FAILURES NEED TO HAPPEN BEFORE YOU START REDUCING THE TOTAL SURFACE AREADO ITJUST DO IT
>>16553056they should put like holes in the engine skirt or something so the fire has a place to go instead of just being stuck in the engine bay like that.
>>16553051pretty sure it's a chatGPT response you're replying to bro
Interesting that one of the engines failed to relight during the initial burn back but successfully relit during the final landing burn. I actually thought this was going to prevent them from trying the catch again but nope. Losing the ship is going to be such a massive setback though. I know musk wants to pretend he will just launch again next month but the fts doesn't seem to have even activated and debris went all over the fucking place. Worst of all they did not get any heat tile data, which is arguably the primary goal of this launch. They may well not even get more tile data for half a year after this failure. Big sad.
So let me get this right>no new data, saarship didn't even make it to orbit>failed because of the exact same reason that another ship failed, just keep the excess prop load you fucking dipshits>RUD, FTS did not activate>Giant fucking debris swath falling outside NOTAM zone caught by over 9000 cellphones looking like gods judgement>Dozens of planes shitting themselves, calling emergencies, diverting (granted the pilots are subtard pajeets for this but still)What a fucking DISASTER, maybe Elon will cease his ketamine binge now
>>16553061LLM begone
>>16552210dont they send potential debris field to everyone before flight
>>16553065>didn't even make it to orbitwasn't supposed to
>>16553070Whatever gaynigger you know what I mean
>>16553071>you know what I meanyeah you're seething. You people are really quiet when starship makes a world first. As long as nobody is on it then Elen can blow up infinite rockets
>>16552542It's still within the zone, it's pretty thick
>>16553074I've been here longer than you. Having a second ship fail because of the same already stupid reason that caused a previous vehicle to fail is embarrassing.
FAA has spoken. It's over.
>>16553028Shuttle used 7 engines to get into orbit, actually.
>>16553079BO toasted
>>16553079The SpaceX investigation will be cleared by Monday, Blue Origin will stretch on for months now.
>starship couldn't fart properly it exploded yet againsigh
>>16553079rip, bye bye blue urine. no coming back from this
"we will perform reentry testings with test articles at orbital velocity""good to know you can reliably launch test articles to orbital velocity""...""you can reliably launch test articles to orbital velocity, right?"
>>16553079Incoming environmental study requirements>>16553087This is the piece of art I was waiting for.>Local rocket not so smug after slamming into the sea.
>>16553085>The SpaceX investigation will be cleared by MondayNot with this level of fuckup it won't. FTS failing to activate can't be swept under the rug. Even with cheeto hitler paid off, it's going to be a while.
>>16553078You wouldn't know
>>16553085Not to the defend the FAA, but if the year-long investigation after NS-23 blew up is any indication Blue was already going to take months and months to complete its own internal review
>>16553079KEK, they might as well do a 2x1 promo.
Calling it now Musk will totally fail because he grinds down and burns out all his engineers with insane work hours. Its like with H1B, Musk was too retarded to realize that the facism is deal is "We will be forced to buy your shitty cars, you will be forced to hire us" but just wants to take everything.He thinks engineers are just a consumable resource that he can just abuse because they are hyped by spaceflight but also that they will somehow deliver a top product.SpaceX engineers are not improving or learning, they are continuously replaced.
>>16553097Finally, accuracy
>>16553097lmao
>>16553096how many hours per week does the average spacex engineer work? Do we know? Is it that much worse compared to other companies?
>>16553101>Nooo don't you understand the FTS actually failed to activate you can't just sweep this under the rug like this it's not fairToday was a very good day. Not a completely successful day, but still a very good day
>>16553097Yup
>>16552363my boomer parents are completely impervious to all sorts of attempts at talking about world changing technologies or trends. it would be comical if it wasn't so infuriating
>>16553110if they're boomers they already saw the space race go down and how it never did more
>>16553110be glad they didn't resort to the ol' and classic "fix earth problems first"
>>16552568Tons of people doubted the catch would work.
https://x.com/ispace_inc/status/1880070960814145768>Mission 2 Milestone Success 4 >The RESILIENCE lunar lander successfully completed its first orbital maneuver at 19:40:18 UTC, Thursday, Jan. 16, 2025, at 250,000 kilometers from Earth, setting the lander on a course towards the Moon and verifying operation of the main propulsion system, as well as the related guidance, control, and navigation system! The orbital maneuver required a main thruster burn that lasted approximately 16 seconds. RESILIENCE is currently in Earth orbit ( in the image). Next it will complete a lunar flyby, known as Success 5, and then enter a low energy transfer orbit ( in the image). Stay tuned for updates! https://ispace-inc.com/news-en/?p=6818
>>16552388they never were for someone in the first place, its just entertainment to them, or programming for the NPCs.
maybe sending an overly heavy welded together piece of scrap metal into space isn't a smart play after all
puzzle cuz boredhttps://jiggie.fun/PErUFN
>>16553103Private company, so no way to know exactly, but every info available states that SpaceX has insanely high staff turn over.
>>16553116he's using that old revisionist bullshit tactic that's quite popular these days around musk's companies. if musk does something successful, then nobody ever doubted that it was possible. plebbit uses this argument all the time, as they can't admit they were wrong in the first place. thankfully there are internet archives showing you the real general opinion towards all the things spacex said they would do, and ended up doing.
>>16553118Call me when it's getting close to the landing
>>16553125the writing was on the wall over 5 years agoonly now spacex cultists are starting to finally wake up
The booster might be big and heavy but I still can't believe it's easily maneuverable and very durable too
too bad wat happened
>>16553125Its the Hyperloop of spaceflight. Nothing about Starship makes sense. To go anywhere, it needs a retarded amount of refuelings...and since it has cryogenic fuel, you can't even store the fuel in it for any appreciable amount of time. It guarantee you will never see it put people on another body. At best its contribution to lunar projects will be launching some of the hardware into space. It will never go to mars.
>>16552346Has this fat fuck ever done anything productive with his live other than contribute to the obesity statistic?
>listening to asmongold video about the elon spat>said elon started to argue with asmon in a DM at like 2am last nightyou know what happened around that time? blue origin reached orbit. looks like elon may have been absolutely malding last night.
>>16553130And you are using the tactic where you ignore all of his obvious scams (hyperloop, cyberpunk buses, robots that were controlled by humans lol) to focus on meaningless successes. Who gives a shit if you can catch a booster if that booster isn't capable of delivering anything?
>>16553111Nah boomers were born near the end of the space race, consequently when they became adults space became stagnantAdd it to the list of things boomers ruined
what is elon's substance use like these days?
>>16553090Elon is head of DOGE. He will disband the FAA before he bows to them.
at this point rocketry is just an expensive copewe shouldn't bother at all with spaceflight anymore until we get some new breakthrough in propulsion.
>>16553070>Call a ship Starship>It can't even get to orbitLol. Lmao.
>>16553153Maybe we could have Starship 2.0: orion boogaloo if the gubinment let Elon Musk play with nuclear material. But noooo, only Lockheed and friends can do that.>inb4 elon is the governmentit's not that easy in redtape-ry
>>16553056SAAAR PLS DELETE MR. MUSK WILL FIRE ME IF HE SEES THE FIRE SAAR
https://x.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1880113889167438271>And after all those excitements over the Karman Line, the one rocket that launched operational sats to orbit in the last 24h is this LM-2D @ 04:07 UTC today. Surprisingly main passenger is for a foreign customer, the PRSC-EO1 Earth observation sat for China’s pal PakistanOne completely successful flight from the 2nd oldest operational rocket in the world
>>16553152It's an advisory agency bro. He has 0 official powers.
>>16553049>Its supposed to failElon wanted the ship to suddenly explode into a million pieces scattered well outside their exclusion zone in what seems to be an identical repeat of an earlier failure?
>>16553162His office is next to Trump's. He will tell Trump that if he wants lunar landing on his 2nd term resume, the FAA has to fuck off.
Grok TUAH!
>>16553153>we shouldn't bother at all with spaceflight anymore until we get some new breakthrough in propulsion.
If someone told me 5 years ago on /sfg/ that Starship would still be blowing up after 7 launches I would have called you Phil Mason
>>16553157 If Elon had nuclear material on-board, today would have been the biggest environmental catastrophe in the history of the planet.
>>16553161And unlike a lot of Chinese launches, this time we actually have a lot of info on the payloadhttps://x.com/The_SharkSlayer/status/1879937886348583141>This launch is significant because it will the launch of the first Pakistani Earth Observation Satellite named the PAK-EO1. According to reports Pak-EO1 will be carrying cutting edge multi-spectral electro optical payload that would provide very high resolution images of the Earth in near real time. This is a major upgrade from the PRSS-1 which was able to provide images with a modest sub meter resolution. This is a multi purpose satellite; the data from which will provide tremendous insights to multiple sectors Such as agriculture, disaster management, urban planning, conservation, military. This satellite will join the two other Pakistani optical/remote sensing (PakTES-1A, PRSS-1) satellites in orbit. Like its predecessor it will be Low Earth Orbiting Satellite with a Sun Synchronous Orbit.
Elon is a Nuclearchad now
>>16553179nuclear powered starship warships
>>16552608a million puerto ricans are showing up at emergency rooms right now with bandage wrapped heads claiming a piece bonked them on the cabeza
The whole point of Elon partnering with Trump is so he can get fta issus rubber stamped through, see you all next month
LM-2D Y101 seems to have been fitted with grid fins to more accurately control which rural village the first stage is returned to
>>16553188Sorry you have to update your meme now. China space program is coming along fine, haven't annihilated a village in ages. Meanwhile Elon almost blasted a dozen commercial airliners out of existence.
>>16553179should've wished for nuclear to be financially viable and seen the genie sweatThere are things that even magic can't fix anymore
>>16553191Those were Boeing plans with Indian pilots. They always fly like that.
>I was in Port Mansfield when it launched. The rumble was crazy powerful. I had never experienced something g like that. Port Mansfield is over 20 miles from Boca Chica beach btwJust imagine when Starship starts flying in Florida lmao
>>16553191USA #1
>>16553194no one lives there
>>16552999
>>16553194About 20 miles from the pads to the edges of Orlando. The whole city is going to be subject to starship noise. Shits not gonna last, all the richnigs and countless karens will sue NASA to oblivion if it launches more than monthly.
>>16552651adult hispanic males tend to get histrionic and unpredictable when put under stress, that's why they don't make the best first-responders to school shootings or pilots facing an unusual event like this
>>16553205this us true
How we hanging, xSisters?
Wild how mundane the tower catch felt the second time, blew my mind the first time but now it was like alright cool, good that they got it working reliably
Ordering one as we speak.
looks like we missed something in the hubbub
>>16553216basado
>>16553215true, i think landings legs are cooler. I'm still not completely tired of falcon 9 landings desu
25 launch bros.... It's over... I'm a blue original now.
WORST FAILURE EVER
sponge anon... y-you still alive?
>>16553128ty and gn puzzlebros>Closeup of LDEF experiment trays documented during STS-32 photo survey >Closeup of Long Duration Exposure Facility (LDEF) experiment trays is documented during STS-32 retrieval activity and photo survey conducted by crewmembers onboard Columbia, Orbiter Vehicle (OV) 102. Partially visible is the Polymer Matrix Composite Materials Experiment. In the background is the surface of the Earth. https://images.nasa.gov/details/s32-77-058
>>16553222>2 steps back, 1 step forward
oh, very rigorous... aerospace engineering standards
If sp*cex had perfect precision it wouldn't have mattered, it would have still reached orbit. Why can't they do perfect precision?
https://old.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/1i34dki/starship_blew_up_in_front_of_us_had_to_divert/bros...
>>16552746(Video truncated for file size reasons)https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/1i34dki/starship_blew_up_in_front_of_us_had_to_divert/
my penis fucking exploded and died
>>16553236I just think it's cool we're able to see stuff like this. Go back 30 years, it would take a day for the news to reach around. Now we hear about it in real time, and then some guy posts a video he filmed from an airplane. Just on an abstract level it's neat
>>16553236Ok that's fuckin cool
>>16553090See >>16553101FTS fired
>>16552438PoE zoomers are not gamers and PoE is not a game
>>16553239astronauts post on reddit from the iss
>uhhh we forgot to double check for leaks OOPS>uhhh add some fire suppression to it next time (that we didn't have before for some reason)>uhhh we shoulda made the vents bigger than that…Why is Elon and the SpaceX team such retards sometimes? I hope to fucking god the FAA doesn't fuck them too hard this time or that Trump is able to pull some sneaky shit on them>>16553179Elon musk making a modular nuclear power plant company is the only way he can be redeemed imho
>>16552210this is what elon gets for bein a xitter addicted cheat in poe2 while shilling for zigger simps in europe. now everybody hostile to him will be out for the hunt for this>>16552288K-I-N-O>>16552495musk bought it onto his head himself. should have stayed out of politics
>>16552561orbit was in reach of extra +2 sec burn retard. It was never the purpose of the tests. Reentry and landing is the money shot
>>16552888
>>16553236>brilliant pebbleskek
>>16552580you are confusing mexico and canada
new hullo>SpaceX's New Starship Upgrade Puts On Amazing Show As Space Debrishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfVm4DTv6lM
>>16553227>it's not retreating it's advancing to the rear!
>>16553256>while shilling for zigger simps in europesettle down Zubrin
>>16553227The kino EVA character!
Super Heavy exudes menace. It's like a giant steel god. They should have saved the name Dragon for this thing, honestly, because watching it come down to land on the tower is what I imagine it would feel like to be a peasant in some fantasy setting watching a dragon swoop down and perch on a nearby mountain to survey the valley I live in before it turns everything there into ashes. There's a certain dread and awe.
EDS sufferers really hoped it was over for SpaceX and are now dealing with being blueballed
>>16553278just shut up
>>16553221>>16553097
>>16552111>>16552122>>16552125>>16552127Ahem:Thanks H1B's you're the best.
>>16552164YesFrom one to a million in a millisecond.H1B's worth every penny.
There's no way to sugarcoat this. This should not happen on your seventh flight!
>>16552111What lack of Indian programmers does to a muthafucka
>>16553296This but unironically
>>16553293>>16553295>>16553298samefag
>>16553296yeah
>>16553300How did you figure that out detective
>>16553296Agreed. Even if it's a new model or whatever.They plan to launch people in this in 2026!
Did the explosion send any of the pieces into orbit?
>>16553300No really, how did you figure that out
>>16553308that manhole cover story is so funny. people think gravity turns off when you go high enough and reach space. that shit never went anywhwere close to orbital velocity, and even if it did it wouldnt have been in orbit. at best it went on a long ballistic arc
Pour one out for your buddy stuck/bored/tired in Rooland
>>16553308Don't think it could given that starship wasn't going fast enough at SECO
>>16553262
>>16553192What about the solar and wind companies who threaten to cease operations if subsidies are lowered.
>>16553320>that piece of steel that's folding over like a rubber gym matThis irritates me on a visceral level, part of me just wants to go up there and press it down my hands
>>16553314it vapourized
Blue Origin won?
>>16553329Musk has fallen, billions must RUD
>>16553247or he could be a big boy and apologize publically for not playing nice like just own it, and say he needs to do some personal work on himself and will do better in the futuredude seriously needs to demonstrate a higher level of maturity, being sorry and trying to make up is part of thatpeople in his kind of position truly do not understand very often that they are not gods, and showing a little vulnerability isn't necessarily a weakness but an exercise in humility (a virtue and strength of character seldom recognized in this hellhole culture, to the detriment of all)everyone is so wrapped up in trying to be gigachad they forgot who they really are, and that is the real failure
you can see just how risk averse cuckmuricans have become from reading this basedthread, you can even tell tell how new to the /sfg/ thread the faggots replying are
>>16553333Being capable of humility precludes being the kind of person who will change the world.
>>16553333>dude seriously needs to demonstrate a higher level of maturityhe's an autist a literal retard
>>16553335Bullshit. You can definitely be ballsy, rich, and not a petty obnoxious piece of shit at the same time
>>16553300do not redeem the indian programmers
>>16553338sure you can, that's why you're so rich isn't it
>>16553340Gates seems like a well-adjusted dude
lying about being a gamer was worse than nuking 15 passenger jets anyway
>>16553335nahmen who are capable of humility build coalitions and recognize they are making mistakes when others point it out because they aren't delusionalthose who aren't burn bridges and alienate themselves from potential allies, or put themselves in situations they cannot win from because of hubrisa great example of humility and self-awareness in leadership is George Washington, Rules of Civility and Decent Behavior is a good read
>>16553343ask him if he ever apologized for the recent server shutdown, people that powerful understand the weaknesses of apologizing to nobodies vs the time spent doing something more productive, you could apologize to 10 or twenty people, or people in an isolated case, any more invites serious litigation because you are essentially admitting guilt to a universe of potential butthurt from everyone who hates you
>>16553343He's nice about wanting humanity to go extinct.
would it make sense for spacex to have a mars analog base like nasa does? except you know, more focused on being a spaceport instead of a science outpost.
>>16553343go to bed Bill
>>16553346>any more invites serious litigation>the weaknesses of apologizing so you're insecure about your self image and feel the need to project nothing but the *image* of strength but that's the definition of being an overcompensating little bitch and it makes you look small minded
>>16553349Yes, if you were actually serious about mars colonization, it makes far more sense to have mock-up mars base than to ramble on about "spreading the light of consciousness" >>16553343I'm not going using your shitty pajeetware OS Bill, I've already switched to Linux
>>16553349They can, but there are already private astronaut training centers that arrange that stuff
>>16553351yea i'm sure elon, of all people is worried of lookinhg small minded with all the shitposting and trolling he does
>>16553320lero lero lero lero lero lero lero
>>16553213
Thank you vacuum tubing, very cool!
>>16553353you are a fucking retard, shill
>>16553354this obsession with the image of false machismo as a zero-sum game is actually a deeply sublimated feminine impulse, mere performative display; it comes from a place of primary concern for social approval (a well known trait in humans generally, but an instinct usually stronger in women than in men) rather than an interest in genuine personal development and mutually uplifting dialogue or other such meaningful intercourse with others
Elon's proposed solution sounds like a bandaid and wont acrually work>ummm errr aarruuuggg fire suppression?>uhhhhhhare you retarded musk??
>>16553334cope retarded shill
fix the rocket you stupid nigger and stop doing this gay internet ego bullshit
>>16553361They did the same thing after IFT2 blew up for the same reason and it worked well enough for the next 4 flights. Only question is why they didn't do it on Ship 2 to begin with.
>>16553361literally just make the ship a mite smaller, and launch a few more of themsuddenly all these problems are resolvedbut then you might not have muh biggest di- I mean rocket
>>16553359https://www.sierraspace.com/press-releases/sierra-space-to-open-human-spaceflight-center-train-the-future-astronaut-corps-for-the-new-commercial-space-economy/https://starharbor.us/And those are just the two I know about
>>16553361The twitter explanation did nothing to clarify why this thing leaked methane out of its ass. This shit has only happened like once on the ship, with LOX, and has never been an issue for at least the last two or three times. Why is leaking suddenly a problem again?For fucks sake, it's been 7 flights already I just want to see Starship land and not explode with them sneakily cutting away the cameras ONCE
>>16553367Tourists say the dumbest shit and think they're incredible engineers >HUR YOU HAD A FAILURE BETTER REDESIGN THE WHOLE VEHICLE It's incredible the kind of retards that crawl out of the woodwork every time SpaceX has a setback. You will be back on reddit in your hugbox in a few years
>>16553360You're the one interpreting it as "false machismo"It simply doesn't occur to him to apologise. He doesn't care what people think.
>>16553367They will make Gigaheavy 18m in diameter and there is nothing the FAA can do about it. Ships will max out there because anyone who thinks we will be able to set up logistics for space-proonting or space-welding structure greater than 18m within our lifetimes is basically just coping
oh my god...elon is low T
>>16553376Has been since SNL/Twitter buyout when he had a mental breakdown and became a schizo Q-tard republican
>>16553377(Probably Grimes broke him beyond repair)
>>16553377>>16553378does no one remember the thai cave rescue? yall were born yesterday it seems. the howard hughes arc has been long and gradual
>>16553370Less surface area exposed to reaction means less chance of failure at any given point in the structure, and overall less resonance due to launch and reentry forces.This is incredibly basic shit. The longer a stick is, the easier it is to break; per given thickness of material, a larger shell will be always easier to break than a smaller one because it has more exposed surface area.>>16553374Why though?>>16553372>He doesn't care what people think.That's so hilariously untrue in such an obvious way that I am forced to conclude he literally pays you to shill here for him.
>>16553382Well, maybe I am wrong, but I think the thai incident was just a minor bump in the road. I think most people honestly didn't care at all and he didn't say anything noteworthy or controversial for a while after that iirc (other than just sharing a few cringe memes nobody has cared about since 2010)
>>16553367it's past your bed time zubrin, get a goin
>>16553349Yes, but wtf is that shit
>>16553386>why though?Telescopes and not to mention reactors are limited pretty hard by payload diameters and trying to pull origami shit again adds a ludicrous amount of cost and complexity. 18m of breathing room is super helpful and becomes exponentially so with the more volume you are able to create via diameter. Even 9m starship is spacious as fuck when you compare it to the capsules men were stuffed inside during apollo era when you are trapped with a bunch of life support and there is basically no point to unbuckling your seatbelt
>>16553392>Telescopes and not to mention reactors are limited pretty hard by payload diametersYeah, that's the main reason you would want a bigger vehicle. But it's also a problem because making something that large only increases the amplitude of vibrations because saturation increases with mass, and putting something that valuable and important on something with an increased risk of structural failure is not ideal.I am personally more in favor of furthering capabilities for assembly in space and multiple launches than putting all your eggs in one basket as it were.Something that large (if not much larger) should be constructed in space and remain there rather than being launched from the surface.
>>16553333>apologize publically for not playing niceHow would that advance the Starship program?
>>16553400>constructed in spaceThis is a meme
>>16553320>PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP
>>16553414It's not.Particularly sensitive components may literally require manufacturing in low-g.Earth needs an orbital dockyard within a generation if Mars colony is to be anything more than a glorified research outpost in our lifetimes.Maybe you can just use the internal space gains that scale with increase in outer surface area to simply incorporate more vibration isolators or inertial dampeners to deal with that problem, but I don't know of any tests being done currently to examine that particular interaction.https://technology.nasa.gov/patent/LAR-TOPS-290>NASA Langley Research Center has developed a compact self-tuning damper to reduce vibration occurring at a fixed frequency. Tuned dampers reduce vibration of the base structure by the dissipation of energy. The magnitude of the dissipated energy is proportional to the range of motion. The NASA damper design allows the slider mass to achieve 2x-3x greater range of motion than that found in conventional devices. This enables 4x-9x more effectiveness for the same size and weight; or the same effectiveness for a 4x-9x decrease in weight. The damper is self-tunable and can be adjusted in effectiveness. The damper can be made small enough for use in wind tunnel tests or scaled up to large sizes, like those used in helicopters, wind turbines, or skyscrapers. Structural vibrations frequently need to be damped to prevent damage to a structure or payload. To accomplish this, a standard linear damper or elastomeric-suspended masses are used. The problem associated with a linear damper is the space required for its construction. For example, if the damper's piston is capable of three inches of movement in either direction, the connecting shaft and cylinder each need to be six inches long. >The NASA invention is a compact and self-tunable structural vibration damper.
>>16553179Safe doesn't mean cost effective.
>>16553400>constructed in spaceI just told you that will probably never happen within our lifetimes. It is "better", yes, but the demand to set up space-welding stations is practically nonexistent. It is 1000x easier even if it doesn't seem like it to simply scale Starship up and put the big structure inside it than make a fucking space proonter that can make things in 0g environments. It's the space elevator problem all over again. It's the best way to ferry stuff to and from the surface, yes. But you ignore that you would have to build the fucking thing first to reap the monetary benefits and exactly 0 people will say yeah I will do that right away upfront because they aren't fucking insane. They will just opt to send ore to and from Earth on Starships, because that system is already in place and works well enoughSame with space welding. And probably space mining to a degree as well.
>>16553418It's only not cost effective because it is >designed so that it needs to be operated by many people with a gajillion degrees and paid gazillions of dollars to function instead of by the bottom of society, which nowadays is most of your society >still has to compete with the dying fossil fuel industry that still gets gorillions of dollars pumped into it from politicians to desperately keep it relevant and filling their pockets >anti-nuke propaganda
sugarcoat status?
>>16553425>IFT8 will launch early n-n-next month t-trust the p-plan!>fails reentry because another stupid fucking retarded oversight Elon never considered>IFT9 is j-just a-around the c-corner guyz, excitement g-guaranteed!!
>>16553418Nothing is cost effective when you regulate the shit out of it.
>>16553320FLAP FLAP FLAP FLAP FLAP FLAP FLAP FLAP FLAP FLAPGO ORBITAL GO ORBITAL GO ORBITAL GO ORBITAL GO ORBITAL
>>16553428>go orbita-ck!
>>16553425SALTED
>>16553422>demand to set up space-welding stations is practically nonexistentmost people are stupid and do not understand what kind of cracked technology shit of all different kinds it's possible to make in space that would be too difficult on Earth for reasons relating to imperceptable vibrations we wouldn't know existed if we didn't already have equipment sensitive enough to detect themkind of like an earthquake, but it's always happening and this interferes with things on nanoscalesthere is "demand" for a LOT of really dumb and counter-productive things, we shouldn't be basing space policy on the whims of popular libido>1000x easier even if it doesn't seem like it to simply scale Starship up and put the big structure inside it than make a fucking space proonter that can make things in 0g environmentshow hard is it to put a 3D printer into space thoughyou might be able to get away with using rivets in any space-built craft because it isn't designed to sustain the shearing force from launch and reentry, seeing as it's main purpose is to remain in space for it's entire operational lifetime>you would have to build the fucking thing first to reap the monetary benefits and exactly 0 people will say yeah I will do that right away upfront because they aren't fucking insanedude why would you ever make a long term investment in a colony when it's going to result in short term financial lossesare you crazy or what
>>16553432>dude why would you ever make a long term investment in a colony when it's going to result in short term financial lossesThat's the whole point
I'm gonna be honest i would have never expected New Glenn to triumph over Starship, but here we are.I apologise to Blue Origin and Jeff Bezos.
>>16553422>It's the space elevator problem all over againNo it's not, the space elevator problem is that it's literally impossible with our current level of technology.>It is "better", yes, but the demand to set up space-welding stations is practically nonexistent.>But you ignore that you would have to build the fucking thing first to reap the monetary benefits and exactly 0 people will say yeah I will do that right away upfront because they aren't fucking insane.You are describing almost to a T the arguments people had against reusable high-frequency rocketry, in which launch technology stalled for 40 years because of upfront costs and 'not enough demand to warrant it' until spacex obviously showed up and made their own demand.
>>16553436Karma for having a meltdown at everyone on X>>16553437Even if we had the materials to make a space elevator we still would just launch ships to orbit. Nobody is going to pay for that elevator
>>16553435anyone interested in the full potential of a Mars colony should be investing in space manufacturing endeavors designed to expedite and scale up regular interplanetary deliveries, I cannot see why Musk shouldn't lead the charge personally on that one considering the kind of infrastructure he is developingnot only would these kind of new products and facilities help the Mars mission, they would be an important asset to relevant organizations on Earth too, driving broad multi-national interest
>https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1880159432308408468>"higher thrust engines... were tested."Does this confirm Raptor 2.5?
https://youtu.be/1dm03yxr3sI
>>16553435>colonyWhat the fuck are you talking about? We were talking about space welders why do you keep bringing up colonies? Building a colony is easy as fuck compared to building an orbital station that can create ships
>>16553449Meant for>>16553441
>>16553247>uhhh we forgot to double check for leaks OOPSPresumably only happened after experiencing the actual forces/vibrations/etc associated with a real launch>uhhh add some fire suppression to it next time (that we didn't have before for some reason)Fire suppression has a mass penalty, which is especially bad on a second stage.
>>16553442
>>16553449>Building a colony is easy as fuck compared to building an orbital station that can create shipslol are you retarded
>>16553442there has been some speculation about raptor 2.5?probably means just going closer to the limit or changing some parameters how the engine operates so they get more thrust perhaps losing something else
>>16552406No one notices that this time the engine bells are not deformed, SpaceX fixes his problems. That damn unified bulkhead tho, I hope their telemetry and image data was good enough to identify root causes.
>>16553443cats are useless in space
why is elon beefing with e-celebs?
Will they use this opportunity to make the nose rounder?I never liked the pointy nose.
>>16553455>>16553442I guess they got enough data about the forward flapsand the launch is more violent with respect to tile fastening than re-entry I guess?so the fastening got tested, but not the actual tiles
>>16553455>9m starship will only fly about 10,000 times before being retired for a WIDER starshipoh shit
>>16553462no
I noticed that the staging was like 800 km/hr slower and the max altitude of the booster was ~5km lower. Presumably this is just due to ship weighing more?
>>16553456No, and I will be proven right since we will build a colony long before we even build our first 3d welding/printing station
>>1655345510 000?Ten thousands?
>>16553465he has talked about a few times, just like few weeks ago there was a tweet about the ship getting 10m longer before it gets wider10k means 10 years with this form factor or something?
>>16553449>Building a colony is easy as fuck compared to building an orbital station that can create shipsnoa station is much closer to Earth which means the launch windows aren't measured in years, we already have experience with them the kind of ships you could make in proximity of one would be more efficient because they are bigger, since they don't have to launch or landan idea would be to eventually reproduce a similar station for Mars by using these large space-bound vessels to transport it in parts
So all the debris fell into hazard zone of the atlantic ocean right?
>>16553468the ship has 25% more propellant so could take more of the workbut the booster is still v1 so maybe v2 booster is going to keep a more similar boosting velocity/altitude
>>16553471yeah i was thinking 10 years
>>16553382>guy calls Musk to shove his sub up Musk's ass>Musk calls him a pedophile for being a expat looking for young ins in thailandThis is a Howard Hughes arc?
>>16553469space welding has already been testedby colony you mean boots on mars with starship or a self-sustaining colony? that encompasses a pretty wide range of thingsalso "a 3d printing station" also encompasses a very wide thing, not really sure what you have in mind
>tranny manley thinks the FAA-mandated FTS caused an unnecessary debris field when starship could've fallen safely into the ocean intactso the faa is in the wrong again?
https://x.com/TechTonicAK/status/1880183592497869227We only got two videos from planes in flight?
>>16553473that is what it sounds like from spacex and the optimism from musk
>>16553016>Intellectual inquiryYou mean midwit inquiry, chatgpt just imitates self-absorbed midwits on the left edge of the dunning-kruger curve.
>>16553058go home zubrin you're drunk
>>16553472Nobody even knows what a welding station will look like yet. A cylindrical mesh with extenders that go forward and back welding metal? What if you want to weld something that isn't a tube of specified diameters? Well, I guess we will make it a giant cube instead and do it in coordinate space kinda like a CNC machine. Let's get to building that. Oh wait, we have to put the parts in starships and send them up. Oh, and all the steel gold and silicon we need for the ships being built. And then put it together, in space, using our totally real team of professional space engineers. There is a reason you only see this shit in powerpoint presentations
>we have to put the parts in starships and send them up. Oh, and all the steel gold and silicon we need for the ships being built. And then put it together, in space, using our totally real team of professional space engineersspace is hard
>>16553478We are talking about a station, in orbit, that can robotically mass-produce space ships and structures like Starship like a sort of floating assembly line.
>>16553455>next month's launchIf my understanding is correct, that's 2 weeks times 2.
>>16553487He says "next month" every time, and every time it ends up being two months. He basically confirmed that it will be roughly March 17th
>>16553486well then a rudimentary colony will probably happen firstbut just doing 3d printing or any type of space welding, then not surehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=eVzUmQ6Oi5c&the dude in the video is the CTO of thinkorbitaland funnily enough they got selected for NASA NIAC with a proposal for a space dry dock on the 14thhttps://x.com/ThinkOrbital/status/1879226877425955282
>>16553490
https://x.com/ThinkOrbital/status/1866549560727707787the company seems to be very much active still, just needs an operational heavy lift rocket to test their shit I guess
https://x.com/ThinkOrbital/status/1816900093011689569seems to basically be on the "research group" level still
>>16553495
https://x.com/johnkrausphotos/status/1880051591514136859
>>16552996I don't know who bob is, but he looks like a massive insufferable faggot
>>16553486That's not what I'm talking about.You don't strictly need to make things like Starship, because we can already make those on Earth, and you shouldn't rely on robotic workers to do everything without the ability for a human to directly intervene in operations in case of communications failure or some other coding error.What you *need* one for is to build things it's impossible to do on Earth. For example, something too big to ever get off the ground conventionally.Starship-like craft could be the main form of transportation from planet to station, since withstanding the forces of launch and landing is what they are designed to do.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1880064687330717984Detailed Mars colony buildout plan soon?
>>16553002WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT HAIR HAAHAHAHAHAAmerica are you ok?
>>16553506She's cute tho
https://x.com/SaintDiscoRosso/status/1880084462735880445someone speculating on the feasibility of getting ready for the 2026 mars window (2026 Nov/Dec, so over 20 months)Musk replied with "accurate"https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1880114570167218580
>>16553508>5 more test flights for integrity and heat shield testing, orbital refueling late 2025
>>16553508why the fuck do so many people rely on AI for everything. you have a brain, literally use it.
I can't get over all the break up footage. It's so fucking beautiful bros. I'm actually crying. Is this what cavemen felt when they stared up at the heavens and saw shooting stars?
>>16553511because its much quicker than googling
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1880124955024863529already kind of feels like it lol
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1880133490118906125
>>16553486>We are talking about a station, in orbit, that can robotically mass-produce space ships and structures like Starship like a sort of floating assembly line.oh yeah I rember that part in Star Wars, the best part was when the kid in a space ship blows it up while going WAAAHOOO
https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/01/heres-what-nasa-would-like-to-see-spacex-accomplish-with-starship-this-year/re-filling demonstration will be done on Block3 3/v3 of Starship
So many double standards imagine Russian or Chinese rocket falling from space in thousands of pieces causing planes to declare emergency dodging debris. But that was American rocket. So we can type >wow so beautiful
>>16553523SpaceX has shipped some of their docking systems to Johnson Space Center for testing and they use the NASA Dockign system
At this point can we say Starship's Block 1 & 2 have design flaws built into them?
>>16553525the life support system is progressing well, they had a mockup of some of the systems 8 months back alreadyStarship might or might not use a touchscreen like DragonWatson sees the ship-to-ship propellant demonstration ocurring in 2025
>>16553526what do you even mean? of course there are flaws/improvements, that is why they are doing these test in the first placeif you are talking about some unfixable design flaw, then no
>>16553523>V3So refueling doesn't begin until like 10 flight from now? It's so over
>>16553527SpaceX doesn't necessarily need the second tower to be built for the refilling demonstration, just two rapid launchesthe more important thing for them is thermal characterization and a "long duration flight" which means more than 45min or something so I guess just staying in orbit for a whilerefusing to answer question about how much propellant is transferred during the demonstration and how much NASA wants to see demonstrated
>>16553531probably 5 if this is accurate >>16553508which would be 6 flights for Block 1 and 6 Flights for Block 2, so it kind of makes sensethough I'm not sure SpaceX would want to test re-filling on the maiden flight of Starship Block 3/V3, as it would again have a bunch of new things, be much longer than the current ship for one and have Raptor V3s
>>16552485Pilots these days are massive drama queens.
>>16552879https://x.com/CSI_Starbase/status/1880068797589254460>This is the area above the firewall or false ceiling where the flames were seen escaping through the opening for the aft flap hinge
How are the engine bells looking today? Were those lopsided views just a refracted mirage caused by hot air?
>>16553455>he thinks the next launch is gonna be this yearwhat's the FAA gonna say?
>>16553552what indeed
>>16553546Just put a bigger hole on the leeward side so if their is a buildup gas can easily escapeLmao
ship is busted, bottom is fucked with engine section and top is fucked with flaps elon ketamine riddled game cheater:>Makie it more pointy! >Change the flaps to shitty ones!>never stop thrusting!
>>16553513>just guess the result bro, no need to make any calculations, I'm sure nothing wrong can happen
>>16553559The only thing wrong with starship is that it still has an obsession with leaking methane and LOX into its ass section 7 flights into testing. Fix the leaky pipes once and for all and slap a docking port on there for refueling and Starship is 99% finished
>>16553455>launch next monthNigga you caused a dozen passenger liners to divert and land. The FAA is gonna tear out your asshole. I could see the next launch pushed back to the summer now.
>>16553560grok at least gives sources when you ask
>>16553563there was a NOTAM there retard
>>16553565I'm guessing all the planes that diverted and did racetrack holding patterns didn't get the memo?
It's over. China will own the moon because boomers vacationing in the Caribbean got their flights diverted.
>>16553412I guess more than paying someone to play video games for him
just wait for v2 booster and how it will have fire and engines too
>>16553566not SpaceXs problem
was this the first time flatter methan top cover was used? lmao
>>16553594yes I think sobut I haven't seen any indication that the problem was thereit was a leak in the engine area which is on the other side of the ship from the methane tanks top
>>16553563https://x.com/Space_Time3/status/1880174005698678981
>>16553455This suggests that they'll switch to 18m girthmax Starship before the first full Martian fleet of 1000 Starships per synod or before the second at latest
>>16553602doomers btfo
>>16553455>Probably solved in next month's launch.>next month's launch.LAUNCH NEXT MONTH CONFIRMED
>>16553455>doesn't change the likely date at which mars becomes self sufficientThat's actually true.Even if not for the reasons he's thinking.
>>16553610retard
Cryptoniggers and pajeets spamming it's a success to defend musk makes me hate him even though i don't give a fuck hurr durr legacy media, hurr durr it's acfually a success. Shut the fuck up, only half of it made it, the primary test was about the heat tiles, which never made it to that point. The whole tower catching is about cattles being impressed. God i fucking hate Xtards. I want starship to become a reality, but the fans are just annoying
>>16553620fuck off retard
>>16553391That's a martian colony simulation.Just don't think too much about the free breathable air, water and in case food runs out a visit at walmart.It's Mars. Sort of.
>>16553552He has an office next to the President and Trump wants to see men on the moon. No one at the FAA will open their mouth if they don't want to be fired.
>>16553620why do we suddenly have so many ESL retards in this thread?stay in your shithole countries and leave the rest of the world alone
Another beautiful morning at Starbase
I hope Bezos leaves a spot on Mars for Musk to claim. It will be heartbreaking if Blue Origin colonizes the whole planet before Starship gets there.
>>16553635lolBlue Origin will never go to marsNew Glenn is built for today's payloads not tomorrows
>>16553639Are tomorrow's payloads suborbital debris scattered across the entire carribean?
>>16552178fuck, this stuff could have landed on these islands couldn't it....not feeling good about another launch anytime soon
>>16553644shhh listen to the muskrats hereStarship superpower by 2030
>>16553644that's not how trajectory works but sure
Imagine there was no atmospheric burn and all our orbital shit could just randomly fall on your head
the EDS crowd really thought they had something finally?lmao
>>16553628>>16553633you are a retard pajeet shitskin
>>16553643yesEarth 2 Earth
>>16553649With DOGE overseeing the FAA, that's about to be commonplace.
>>16553649This would bother me if I lived on a lunar colony. So many retard countries are going to do drop stages as they go more and more to the Moon. Hell, chinas lander requires drop stages. And more and more satellites are going to be placed in extremely unstable low lunar orbits
>>16553649That's why we don't remove Earth's atmosphere, even if it would be a bit easier to launch, landing our shit would be much more complicated
I know everyone wants to talk about Starship but do we have any idea what happened to new glen's first stage? Did it crash into the sea? Did it blow up the landing barge? Did it disappear into thin air?I've not heard anything about it apart from that it didn't land and someone might have mixed up imperial and metric units so it's return burn was too early.
just woke up. over status? flight 8 in feb?
>>16553667it's totally over, but there's also another test flight in 2 weeks
>>16552579this is really bad. i am sad
>>16553649why a moon base is pretty retarded
>>16553667WE ARE SO BACk
>>16552579why so many pretty colors?
>>16553667it's in two weeks
>>16553666Sorry Satan, we're never gonna find out.
I swear to god this guy posted here before with his plans to become an EDS troll to get famous.He's definitely trolling. Guy even quotes Shelby as a good guy.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGZ5fg2Vja4&t
>>16552579Desu they should start intentionally doing this like fireworks. Imagine the 4th of July, or the Super Bowl
>>16553666FAA confirmed it was out of the exclusion zone. So missed hilariously. Being so far off probably means it also had an engine failure.
>>16553686does it even have the thrust to weight to take off
are they going to release vibeos from Starship before it went bang?
>>16553490over the last 4 years or so, this guy went from "ideas guy" on youtubewrote and self-published a paperwent to a handful of conferencesnow has a company with sever million funding and already sent the first prototype to spacewhat is your excuse?
>>16553692Doubt it since even New Glenn launch 1 was barely crawling off the pad. I have birds faster than that rocket.
>>16552579whoa aliens are here
>>16553688Outside the exlusion zone, not outside the notice zoneAs nothing bad happened to the airplanes, the notice zone worked exactly as planned
>>16553686kek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bwu8IYQIG9E
>>16553686you get the woooorst of both worlds
We're so back!
>>16553705
>>16553714>our build quality is shit, we don't test it and the pajeets can't fix it
https://x.com/s2a_systems/status/1880232144443961852>And here a short animation of the New Glenn upper stage from 08:05:43 - 08:14:59 UTC this morning. Unfortunately, dawn was already beginning.https://x.com/mickeywzx/status/1880223240104317062>New Glenn flight 1: Blue Ring tech demo: 16 January 2025 (07:03 UTC). And here a short animation of the New Glenn upper stage from 08:05:43 - 08:14:59 UTC this morning. New Glenn upper stage 'cloud' is likely ice.. 1/17/2025Hmm
>>16553714>fix the issue?>no>just add a fire extinguisher>but there's still leaks>add a fire extinguisher!!!!!
>>16552288Gravity's Rainbow
>>16552111From now on PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE only post images if they are IMPORTANT! Just 7 more pictures and we will reach the image limit!
>>16553722they added those in the boosters too as a temporary measure so other systems can be tested meanwhile while a more permanent solution is developed, it makes sensewith v3 raptors they might not a CO2 system
Approaching image limit stage. Push engines to max on imagespam
>>16553731>ERM YOURE NOT ALLOWED TO POST IMAGES BECAUSE I SAID SO
We know Musk browses /pol/, but does he ever visit /sfg/?
>>16553737Grok tuah!
https://x.com/spacesudoer/status/1880259350939533638no official source but the dude said its not speculation
>>16553735>>16553736>>16553737>>16553739>>16553741[math]\unicode{x1F62D}[/math][math]\unicode{x1F62D}[/math][math]\unicode{x1F62D}[/math] Please stop!!math]\unicode{x1F62D}[/math][math]\unicode{x1F62D}[/math][math]\unicode{x1F62D}[/math]
>>16553737with all the pajeet shills here straight up from pol probably yes>>16553740>zero testing>it's more likely to explodenice
>>16553561Ass fires, aka bonus thrust
>>16553740ah yes a meme account on twitter said its not speculation so it must be true
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>>16553746Glad you understand how it works
>>16553746they are tesla bots so they should know
>>16552111Some one make a new /sfg/ ULA edition please.
>>16553750We're still on page 7 and the next launch isn't until Saturday. We're fine
Staging>>16553752>>16553752>>16553752>>16553752
>>16553737He's the autist who loses his shit about the way OPs are formatted or staging done before page 10.
>>16553222Was engine out on boost back burn even an issue? It relit just fine on catch burn.
>>16553740shouldn't they just launch it without starship, and if everything goes well, try to catch it again and again until it fall apart?
>>16553666>and someone might have mixed up imperial and metric units so it's return burn was too early.Plz be true, not that it didn't happen before, to boot. That would be well deserved for using retarded relics.
>>16553807If they never tell us what happened I'm just gonna assume it's true and they didn't want everyone to know how retarded they are.
>>16553746one particular X memer is the single best source of information about the future of human spaceflight
>>16553508I despise when people use AI for highly speculated retard questions
>>16553526It's funny how the goalposts continue to move
>>16553732>as a temporary measure so other systems can be testedYou just made that up
>booster successfully caught in mid air for the second time>overshadowed by loss of Starshipsad
>>16553927It wasn't there to begin with, they added and are going to remove it when Raptor 3 comes onlinethat is by definition temporary
>>16553300>>16553305>I don't know what samefagging isGood morning Saar!>>16553312Generally Patel thinks anyone making fun of H1Bs for literally blowing up in Elons face is the must be the same person.Also, samefagging is replying to the same post twice while pretending to be a different person... so they're also an idiot.
>16553941>booster successfully caught in mid air for the second timecompletely pointless
>>16554060>continues making up bullshityou dont know shit, stop pretending
>>16554157you just replied to me twice. so you're a samefag
>>16553511>Here's what ChatGPT told meIt's a calling card for midwits.
>>16554174nopehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oedjbrmk3Xwhttps://x.com/elonmusk/status/1819597689283121225
https://x.com/_jaykeegan_/status/1880428737747120517>In response to a FOIA request from NSF, Customs & Border Protection has released the footage from the aerostat stationed at South Padre Island of launch and booster catch from *Starship Flight 5*.
