previous >>16771270
/sfg/ is kill
"Manganese Diboride has what rockets crave! It's got electrolytes!">MnB2 releases about 20% more energy per unit weight and is roughly 2.5 times as energy-dense as aluminum powder, the standard metal fuel in today’s solid rocket boosters.
edition name?
>>16775172>>16775164
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1963353918945333678
Declares having the ULA launched Gateway should be the real win. He actually said that.
>>16775176I know his day job is lobbying for ULA but damn, that level of shilling is unbelievably blatant and sets its sights appallingly low.
>>16775170>solids
https://x.com/panos_panay/status/1963336040120553811
>>16775185
>>16775185>>16775190Good. This will force Starlink to offer gigabit speeds, as well.
>>16775190>Looses your licenseTick tock Project Stupider. The clock is running on getting your constellation up.
>>16775190>terabit internetfor what purpose?
>>16775199Look at what Starlink charges for aviation, maritime, and business. It would be retarded to start competing with pleb internet. The capacity won't be there for years anyway.
spehs
Asked this in the previous thread as wellDoes anyone have any good soruces or books to read up on the near future of space travel? I'm new to this topic
>>16775194Starlink bandwidth is divided between all users in the footprint of the satellite they're connected to. Starlink could easily have gigabit speeds if each bird only had to connect to one person. That's what Kuiper's test did. When there's dozens of people sharing the connection, that bandwidth will rapidly decrease.
>>16775209Wonder what coating Energia had and if Buran would have been in the same danger of wing strikes by tank debris as the Shuttle was.
>>16774638I was referring to the solar energy stuff and jokingly implying it's a nuclear energy company, since they're collecting energy from the sun. After all, nuclear plants also just stick an angry rock in water to spin a wheel, so is solar energy not also a gigantic fusion reactor where they collect the fusion energy by pointing rectangles into the sky
>>16775264Idiotic.
>>16774881>because they must be testing itYeah they did test it with electron. The short lived electron reuse program did show that carbon fiber can withstand booster re-entry.
Just this tiny device is more advanced than anything SpaceX has ever built.
another W for mike. QI is right.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpePFDDstwE
>>16775300be kinda nice if it was something like liquid beer
>>16775302How does this https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adu2637 relate to quantization of inertia?
mike drop..
>>16775305What novel prediction does QI make pertaining to this paper that is excluded (not just ignored) by non-QI physics?
>>16775307it predicts that Russia should win in Ukraine.
https://x.com/pronounced_kyle/status/1963263727760781437https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n8H4wnlI7o
space force will begin rolling out their uniform to the whole service starting in november. the rollout will be slow though and is expected to be finished NET june.https://taskandpurpose.com/news/space-force-uniform/
>>16775234Most people here dont/cant read, they just watch clickbait on YouTube and then shitpost about it. But if you keep doing that for enough years, you wont be new anymore.Since you are asking about "the future", you wont get so many books, but online is your source for rampant speculation about things that are proposed or works in progress.Learn about all the rockets flying today, and the new ones about to make their debut in the next few years, Starship, New Glenn, Relativity, Stoke, Neutron, etc. Learn about their engines, fuels, pros and cons. Everyday astronaut and NSF has some videos about basics of turbopump fuel cycles, so do lots of other reputable channels who attempt to educate armchair engineers. Not sure how much background you have in engineering so cant say more than that
>>16775326multicam on mars
>>16775326Where did she earn her badges? Have there been space battles?
>>16775331https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG5v7ng0o4A
>>16775332At least they died for IsraelOur greatest ally
>>16775331Why don't you ask her anon?
>>16775264ok, I'll allow it: Tesla (= SolarCity) is a fusion energy company
https://x.com/andrewcurran_/status/1963458003824513025
>>16775331>Have there been space battles?Not that you are privy to.
>>16775234im not sure if there is a good source for that. the near future is constantly in flux because the industry is heavy on proposals but the development timelines are long. projects also get canceled all the time. here are some examples though:>iss & space stations - just a couple of years ago there were 6 space stations in serious development. now there are maybe 2 or 3. two more years from now and things could look radically different again.>spacex - following the company is even worse, because even though they get shit done, they are always changing things. what you think could be the near future for them could be different a month later.>government - everyone praised trump's first term because he did wonders for the industry, but its been a rollercoaster in his second term. china? they are too secretive to pin down.at best you're going to get general trends...and for now the trends are still looking good even though there is currently alot of turmoil.
>>16775331She only has two. Ones her rank, the others her branch.
>>16775331>Have there been space battles?did you miss all the activity that has been going on with iran?>On October 31, 2023, during a Yemeni missile strike on Israel, Israel's Arrow 2 system intercepted a ballistic missile launched from Yemen by Houthi rebels; this successful interception occurred outside of Earth's atmosphere thus making it the first recorded practical instance of space warfare during an active conflict.>On April 14, 2024, Iran launched more than 120 ballistic missiles at Israel, making it the first large-scale incident in which a space weapon was used.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_warfare
>>16775337Elmo status?
>>16775326Cute mutt desu
>>16775343Real space battles are pretty boring, currently its about intercepting signals and taking photos of each others satellitest. visited Buckley SFB
>>16775346Non Grata.
>>16775234The High Frontier by Gerard O'Neill
>>16775327>>16775234>>16775339Yeah now that i think of it, with how quickly the field is evolving, i cant really expect any decent texts on it. Still thanks. Any good blogs to follow perhaps?
>>16775164/sfg/ is rapid unscheduled disassembly.>>16775172The back fell off, dramatically.
>>16775337>>16775346>>16775349So should we expect a similar chimpout to what happeend when Biden didn't invide Musk to the EV conference?
>>16775192Raptor 1 had the heat exchanger, it was bestparted on 2. What I want is the proof or evidence that you're basing your claim of 3 having a heat exchanger again on. So far the only thing I've seen is speculation to the tune of "they must've brought it back because it'd be retarded not to, this part vaguely looks like there could be a heat exchanger so that must be it".
>>16775337Trump is dyingThey will rebuild him
>>16775176china doesn't even plan for more than one human landing nasa is preparing for a permanent base these are completely different objectives, by any metric china is 55 years late
>>16775352there are some blogs but i dont think they're worth following since they arent for casuals. if you're looking for blogs then you're already deep inna spaceflight hobby at the autist level so you already know everything and you're just looking for opinions and info on niche stuff. you're better off sticking with /sfg/, entry level space youtubers, general news sources, and twitter.https://chrisprophet.substack.com/https://thespacereview.com/https://sattrackcam.blogspot.com/ (pic related)
https://x.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1963612279464710522booster for flight 11 getting static fired this weekend
>>16775176Doesn't matter, ACES is back. The real question is, are they secretly working on it for cislunar operations.
>>16775369(2/2)Lockheed Martin was very successful at lobbying recently (the whole red scare thing in the news). My guess is they managed to secure lunar fission reactor and ACES funding. The latter is actually more secretive because there are military applications.
>>16775369lunar nuclear power > gateway > aces
https://x.com/esherifftv/status/1963610502883361140
>>16775369I want to see a hydrogen powered ICE APU in a rocket just so I can buy a "my other car is a rocket" bumper sticker from ULA
eta for the next starship launch?
>>16775375freaknastiest bitch in the community yjk she's down for some fucked up shit
>>16775379Two weeks
>>16775375>why not fly somewhere else?there are no other locations in the US>why not not fly?not an option given the race with china
>>16775362From recollection that Chris Prophet guy is an absolute retard, I wouldn't recommend him.
>>16775383How much would Starship's capabilities be reduced if launched from Kodiak?
>>16775331Assuming you mean ribbons, she probably came over from the Air Force, so many of them were from there. Ribbons are often issued to large numbers of service members for general things like "The Global War on Terror". Over time, even without doing anything special, service members can end up with a large number of ribbons.
>>16775356It doesn't appear the Trump administration has been using federal agencies to harass SpaceX like Biden did so Musk shouldn't have as much reason to care about not getting invited to tea.
>>16775331She's seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. She watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv-dmaKXFks>I Never Expected N*dists to Oppose Starship... Is Space Coast Getting Too Busy?
>>16775375>>16775392
>>16775365its so great how well the last flight went. means all this can go ahead soon.
>>16775392As an Amtrakian, I'm opposed to Canadian nude beaches. That aside, coastal eras are desirable for many reasons so there will often be contention for incompatible uses.
>>16775393so just dont close anything. that would solve most of these problems. it wont be too busy until returning boosters have to wait in a holding pattern.
>why not a more desolate area with less peoplethese fucking people, why not move somewhere where there isn't a launch complex?there have been launch pads there for like 70 years
Reminder that this would be less of an issue if based mullet president got his way.
>>16775397Scary thought: the nudists are older than the launch pads.
the government doesn't want you to know but rockets work identical when launched over land
>>16775337>>16775346https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1963624123998896368apparently he was invited
>>16775398>if only we had 50 million more mexicans
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1963633062207488282
Check it, fags. I know some of you are here.
>>16775411I don't think the others will like him sending X Æ A-12 there.
>>16775398Baha California would be great for launching rockets. I bet you could launch a starship or F9 from one side of that bay and have the booster land on the other side, avoiding drone ships and giving a payload advantage. You could just cycle them back and forth, and put half your constellation in retrograde orbits
>>16775234Take a look at the books from Springer Praxis. That's the evil science publishing company's Space titles series. Plenty of books on historic, future and speculate space subjects.
>>16775439>okay so we're going to start at the moon and then after the moon we're going straight to jupiter>wait what about mars?>SHUT THE FUCK UP NAZIwhy are they like this?
>>16775435as a bonus you could drop trash on californians
>>16775398>missing Gulf of America
The Holy Trinity
>>16775420how many kuiper stats are in orbit now?
>>16775398>northern border in the west not at 54'40"map discarded
>>16775454strapping a couple FH together might though
>>16775176>Mountain Dew product placementSrsly?!
>>16775463104https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Kuiper#Launch_history
>>16775300>The Chinese-led research team based their findings on seismic readings from NASA's InSight lander on Mars, which recorded more than 1,300 marsquakes before shutting down in 2022. NASA scientists could have discovered this first. It was their mission. But they were too busy with HR Diversity training and making Tik Toks of them dancing at work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2BvaBKFEwE
>>16775420Amazoon claims to have roughly 2x smaller dish size / bandwidth compared to Starlink. I wonder if it involves patents to prevent straight copies. Jeff would do something like that.https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/innovation-at-amazon/heres-your-first-look-at-project-kuipers-low-cost-customer-terminals
Win for The X.
>>16775492By putting the receive and transmit arrays on top of each other, instead of along side. Bold plan. Let's see how that works out for them:https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/innovation-at-amazon/amazon-marks-breakthrough-in-project-kuiper-development
>>16775369
>>16775486Whats MSL here?Also since mars seems to have an internal composition broadly similar to earths besides the comparably larger mantle, whats the explanation for why it doesn't have a magnetic field?
>>16775504It's smaller in size and the outer core has cooled off too much.
>>16775500I mean, wifi already does this, the tradeoff is that you can't do both transmit and receive simultaneously unless you're doing some hardcore OFDM with expensive filters. That's what I remember from my old RF engineering course anyway
>>16775508Depending on what msl is that might not be evident. Including msl the outer core is pretty close in size to earths and a cooler outer core would be smaller.
>>16775502the red makes it faster
>>16775504>>16775516It stands for molten silicate layer. In contrary to what this guy >>16775508 says the actual paper claims the core and mantle are higher temperature than earths.
>>16775472I think its more about the upper stage being 3.7m in diameter not being able to support a very heavy payload.
>>16775176>used up oldspace loser says we can'twhy would I listen to him?
>>16775346MELTY!
>>16775176More people should say>USA will lose to China in second space raceI support people saying>USA will lose to China in second space raceIf more people say>USA will lose to China in second space raceNASA might get more funding in the right placeOtherwise>USA will lose to China in second space race
>>167753931.) I don't care2.) Lying3.) Simply don't close the beaches
>>16775527It's actually pretty crazy how much influence over the media these companies have. It's the only reason you're seeing this shit constantly in the news.
>>16775416They would've been bred out by Americans.
>>16775504>whats the explanation for why it doesn't have a magnetic field?Take a look in our solar system and you will find no Earth sized bodies with strong magnetic fields, apart from Earth.The Moon is responsible for ours. It's core is still molten metal like ours and acts as a dynamo.Another clear W for the rare Earth hypothesis.
>>16775502ACES is about 10 years too late. There are too many space tugs in development. They need to be working on ACES-NTP.
>>16775533That doesn't make any sense.If moons are required why is mars crust magnetized proving it had a magnetic field in the past?
>>16775361Coping doesn't help us
>>16775533>Take a look in our solar system and you will find no Earth sized bodies with strong magnetic fields, apart from Earth.in other words venus doesn’t have a magnetosphere.all the big boys do.
>>16775537Of course it can have a magnetic field in the past, gas giants have magnetic fields without being orbited by big dynamos, but clearly planetary magnetic fields decay over time. The moon offset the decay of Earths magnetic field by billions of years. Perhaps nowadays it actually doesnt act as a dynamo anymore due to being far away and having lost it's own magnetic field, but for much of the Earths lifespan it was very close and had it's own magnetic field which directly interacted with that of the Earth. Is it just pure coincidence then that Earth ended up as the only rocky terrestrial with a strong magnetic field in the big 25? The moon would probably have it's own magnetic field if it wasnt tidally locked.
>>16775431I think Trump liked his kids so that'd probably turn out well.
>>16775541Strangely ganymede has a more powerful magnetic sphere than mars despite being much smaller.The weakness of mars magnetic field is very puzzling, it's even weaker than mercury's.>>16775542Looks like you're making wild assertions with no evidence and making just so stories to explain away contradictory evidence. Yes, earth is clearly special in some way, no that doesn't mean your explanation is correct. There are other options.
>>16775542Venusenus
>>16775548Is it not so that earth core should be solid by now were it not for radioactive decay?
>>16775554Giant impact probably added a billion+ years to the core lifespan when the moon was created but life didn't need that
>>16775554Earths core is solid
>>16775539The chinks will probably send a spare lander and a spare return ship. Commie party can't lose face in public, even more so in such a mediatic mission.
>>16775563anon they're going to build an entire base there and their program is on schedule
https://x.com/Alexphysics13/status/1963656905144029321
>>16775176This Senate committee meeting is sponsored by Mountain Dew. "Do the Dew!"
>>16775572Brawndo is the official sponsor of this presidential term.
>>16775308So all Russia has to do is turn on their QI drones and they will win?WHY HAVEN'T THEY TURNED IT ON YET?
>>16775343
>>16775473
>>16775331Ribbons are nearly always just participation trophies. Most were made up by boomers who never did anything of note
>>16775380Miss Piggy has a hunger for my dirty hairy
Is MMX the only real happening in the next 5 years, since Artemis crewed clearly isn't going to happen?>will study phobos up close>will land on it and take samples and return them to earth>will deploy a small rover to explore the moon>will come equipped with an 8k camera to capture the most high definition photos of mars ever
>>16775416Follow Israel's example and just push them south
Guesses on Jim's soda at this Senate hearing.
>>16775393>censors nude>shows cleavage
>>16775603yeah and remember that feet video
>>16775533I don’t think a moon has anything to do with it. Mars is way smaller than earth, and even with earth-like rotation it doesn’t have enough internal heat to drive a dynamo magnetic field. It has cooled way faster than earth, and any magnetic field it once possessed has stopped working. Its crust has remnant magnetism indicating a historic magnetic field, but obviously it doesn’t have one now.On the flip side, Venus was smashed and its rotation basically negated, and while its surface is scorching hot from runaway greenhouse effects, its mantle and core have stopped convecting and have stagnated as plate tectonics shut down and the gradient needed to drive an efficient planet-wide dynamo magnetic field no longer exists
>>16775545Kek underrated
https://www.china-in-space.com/p/new-reusable-rockets-aim-light-and
>>16775544>>16775513Speaking of schizodrive, has there been any news in the last 2 weeks?
>>16775620they turned it on and the satellite quickly flew into deep space and they lost it.
oh nononono!
>>16775630What did Dr. Kleiner do now?
>>16775632Ropes can be used to cross pits, Gordon!
“But what if he’s telling the truth?”
>>16775643That's the part about Japan that I love the most, that childlike naive optimism
>>16775630Tory looks old. All my photos are like from 10 years ago
>>16775439thought the cover was some esoteric 'identifying wood' meme
>>16775234ERICBERGER'liftoff' and 'reentry'
Cancel Artemis? Yea or nay
>>16775668>+100 social creditkys chinky
>>16775668Nay. My spent tax dollars need to see a return on investment.
>>16775668I’m not giving the moon to china without a fight
>>16775670>>16775671Longer-term, I mean. We can still send Artemis II and Artemis III in this scenario and beat the chinks back to the Moon. The jared isaacman proposition. But what about scrapping it and revamping some new Moon-Mars initiative program that’s more just NASA requesting rocket rides from SX and BO and Rocketlab and ULA for outposts, orbital and/or surface, on Mars?I say fuck Artemis. Fund a continuously-manned surface colony of at least 10 people. Like the ISS, but it just happens to be on the lunar surface.
>>16775676>Fund a continuously-manned surface colony of at least 10 people. Like the ISS, but it just happens to be on the lunar surface.Any plans that don't include that aren't good enough. No single launch a year and occupying it for a few weeks at a time.
>>16775676>more freedom for contractorsArtemis would have already succeeded in landing on the Moon at least as an unmanned test if NASA was stricter on the design requirements. Lander could have been assembled on 2 falcon heavy flights ez pz. Instead they allowed contractors to propose whatever the fuck they wanted, which of course lead to absurd proposals.
>>16775611the impact that created the moon did give a sizable heat input to the proto-earth tho
>>167753001.842.771.176SPHERICALKILOMETERSOF IRON
>>16775698Ah yes I agree actually
>>16775454is this about orion?
>>16775698>the impact that created the moonthe moon is a captured planet. double smack theory is bunk
>>16775689>single launch a yearwhich is why SLS is totally worthless, because they can't even build them that fast
>>16775668The program? NayThe architecture? YeaThey need to sit down and think about what they want to accomplish on the moon (permanent human presence) and design a vehicle that supports that in its entirety, not an underpowered space taxi
>>16775709too similar in composition for that to be true
>>16775713the only problem is the return capsule. I'm confident that BOBM lander will be successful enough to support a lunar base in the long term. BO is at the very least showing they are committed to the HLS contract. The issue is getting the astronauts home. Orion being the only way back from the moon is a massive issue and it really needs to be replaced. if we didn't need Orion to get back to earth we don't need SLS at all or the gateway or the EUS.If it were me I would task space X to do a study to see if It's feasible to beef up dragon with a new life support system, better heat shield, and more prop for lunar insertion and return. Then they could launch this new moon dragon on FH which is more than capable of putting 15-16t to TLI, or if somehow it's too heavy for FH they can launch it on BONG.
>>16775732should mention that starship will "eventually" be able to support both launch and landing but that is a LONG way off. I don't think starship will be mature enough by 2030 to return people from the moon so an upgraded dragon seems like the best option for an Orion replacement.
we're going to have to land landing pads for starship on the moon and mars, wont we?
>>16775738Yes
>>16775738you act like that's somehow difficult to do. you only need to send the construction bots the first time to construct a "good enough" launch pad from 3d printed regolith or whatever. Then you land a starship with 100-200 ton of cargo and start making proper launch towers
>>16775738No
>spacex now doing daily launches>NASA still building a rocket to do a single launch moon missionunhuh
>>16775743Yeah what's the problem here? Both are performing their intention
>>16775744orbitalassembly
>>16775542>The moon offset the decay of Earths magnetic fieldThis makes no sense
>>16775757This isn’t how it would look IRL by the way
>>16775732>Orion being the only way back from the moon is a massive issuemaybe it won't be, maybe the return trajectory change will completely fix the heat shied issues.or maybe it wont but it won't matter because reentry isn't as hard as Columbia made it look
>>16775758True, sorry. Here is the real one.
>>16775766even if Orion is flawless it still can't get to the moon without SLS which, as stated previously, we should be doing everything we can to get rid of. Even if there is an acceptable alternative to launching orion, orion is still garbage because of how small the service module is, it can't even get to low lunar orbit. Even WITH a more powerful prop module (which would make it even more difficult to launch with existing launchers), it's being made by lockheed martin. do you really think LM is going to be able to support long term lunar presence?bottom line, orion needs to go. SLS needs to go. use dragon as an interim replacement until starship is a fully functional and proven system
>>16775571this dude's middle name literally means sewer
>>16775794not even the germans have words that long for such a simple thing
>>16775154Imagine if the Americans are just a bit faster than the Chinese in the 21 century race to the moon but the HLS can't take off after landing on the Moon, do you think they would let the Chinese to rescue them?
>>16775794kek
>>16775773Orion service module always looks goofy to me. If Apollowas proportionedlike a human then Orion is proportioned like a grey ayy, with a tiny body and comparitively massive head.
>>16775806It's really striking when you see a comparison. Orion simply was not designed to go to the moon. it was designed as a jobs program first and a space program second
>>16775806>If Apollo_was proportioned_like a humanthe CSM always looked way to SM heavy to me. especially with that fuckoff big engine bell
Behold, a man-rated vehicle (for some reason), that is basically Orion/ESM
>>16775811why not use something like this to shuttle people to and from the moon instead of orion?for earth re-entry you can just send a dragon up, rendezvous in LEO, dock and transfer the crew, and then re-enter on dragon. obviously it wont work with this specifically but a lunar taxi to get to low lunar orbit and back to LEO would probably be more feasible with commercial launchers than using Orion and it would avoid the issue lunar return velocity re-entries
>>16775815Why not just use the Dragon for everything in this scenario? Why do you need an ATV middleman?
>>16775816dragon cant reenter from lunar orbit>but what if you beefed it upno
>>16775816Assuming that Musk was not bullshitting the dozens of times he said it, Dragon can survive lunar return. If that's true it is sus why he has never sent paying customers around the moon in Dragon (such as dearmoon). And also if that is true it means Orion is not essential.
>>16775816dragon can only do LEO return not lunar return. only orion can do that currently. You "could" alter dragon to do lunar return but that would require a lot of work and at least an uncrewed demonstration flight to show that it can actually reenter safely all of that would take a very long time. not to mention you also need a better life support system. Orion's is significantly more advanced than dragon which only lasts like 5 days.If you have a lunar taxi then you can skip that. Dragon never sees anything other than LEO return velocity which it can easily handle. Docking is also easy (they do it all the time with ISS). It would still be like 4 launches depending on how many blue moon needs but it's totally doable. you could get someone like Vast to build it (they are working on long term space habitats after all) with assistance from another company to build the propulsion module, and NASA to help with the life support systems.
>>16775738The maximum thrust of the Apollo Lunar Module (LM) descent engine was approximately 45,000 NewtonsMaximum thrust of starship is 12,300 kN and apollo already got problems with regolith debree fucking the desent stage on landing you do the math
>>16775828There's a reason the HLS is going to have cold gas thrusters at the top
>>16775828I look forward to the inevitable Musk approach of landing a starship raw on top of an arid rocky flat in the middle of nowhere and seeing how bad the damage is on desent/takeoff
>>16775829sure but we should still probably have landing pads constructed if we are gonna do long term occupation of the moon.
>>16775828>Maximum thrust of starshipso don't run all 6 engines at full throttle
why are astronomers so scared of near SETI?
>>16775572its got what lobbyists crave!!
>>16775404they are. i went to the nude section of playalinda shortly after graduating high school, i was scarred for life desu. nobody there was under the age of 60...so much loose skin... ;_;
>>16775861allowing old people to walk around nude is a crime against humanity. as such I think the beach should be turned into something useful, like a launch pad for starship
>>16775866>allowing old people to walk around nude is a crime against humanityi agree but the sun feels good on my balls so i dont blame them
I look longingly at places I will never go
article going over texas-based startups that are focused on the moonhttps://www.texasmonthly.com/news-politics/firefly-aerospace-intuitive-machines-nasa-moon/
>>16775892the article is a million words long though so im not going to try and summarize it
>>16775844even 1 raptor at min throttle of ~40% is way too much. hence why they are using gas thrusters high up in every render you see of HLS. We definitely need landing pads and we can make them with in situ materials. there have been a ton of studies on concrete made using lunar regolith. just need someone like intuitive machines to build a construction bot that can build the pad.
>>16775892>sign upok but what about free
>>16775896weird it was free for me, here's the archive of it https://archive ph/cGIYi
>>167758441,025,000 newtons on a single raptor at half power
>>167758991 cubic kilonewton...
whats the future for this shit
>>16775892@grok summarize this article
>>16775904next year's april fools joke should be an AI assistant that summarizes threads for you
>>16775904The article discusses Texas's central role in NASA's lunar exploration through Firefly Aerospace (Cedar Park) and Intuitive Machines (Houston), part of NASA's Commercial Lunar Payload Services (CLPS) program, which uses private companies to deliver lunar payloads cost-effectively amid competition with China. Firefly's Blue Ghost achieved a successful lunar landing in March 2025, delivering significant data, while Intuitive Machines' Odysseus and Athena missions (February and March 2025) faced challenges, tipping over and limiting operations. Despite a historical lunar mission failure rate over 50% due to navigation, gravity, and dust issues, both companies push innovation. Political challenges include a proposed 24% NASA budget cut in May 2025, later restored, but CLPS 2.0 remains unfunded. Future plans involve Firefly and Intuitive Machines' 2026 missions, NASA's 2027 Artemis III crewed landing, and a lunar nuclear reactor by 2030 to counter China's 2035 plans. Texas's successes signal potential for a lunar economy by the 2040s, but sustained political support is critical.
>>16775234Not sure what you exactly mean by "future of space travel" as it's a bit broad.Atomic Rockets is a good source though.>>16775328I for one cannot wait until we get both lunar and martian pattern multicam.
>>16775234quite literally every prediction about the future of space will be thrown out in the coming decade due to an unforeseen black swan event, so everything you read about space elevators and shit will be completely wrong.
>>16775905
>>16775810The engine bell looks tuff
>>16775890I talked with a coworker tonight who was extremely interested in the new football season starting up. As the conversation turned towards NASA and spaceflight in general I was met with "Well nobody can live out there so whatever".Then I watched an hour of people betting on NFL games using their phone.
>>16775770no that's fake, >>16775757 is the real one
>>16775923It's ok anon. the normies will go extinct while we explore the stars
>>16775923Maybe they would care if they could bet on games being played on the moon or Mars.
>>16775927moon sports in 1/6 gravity will be a part of the lunar economy eventually
>>16775176This shilling brought to you by Mountain Dew(tm)(((Birdenstein)))
>>16775209Behs
>>16775923>"Well nobody can live out there so whatever".He's not wrong
>>16775940people have been living in space for decades
>>16775927I would watch sports on the moon or Mars. Earth sports are maximum faggotry. Curling is okay.
>>16775806>Orion service module always looks goofy to meThat's because it's being made of faggot euros.It's not enough that NASA needs some component made from every damn state. They went and had a whole module made by people that don't even speak English as their first language and have contempt for the USA.
>>16775955ESM is the only part of Artemis that got delivered on schedule and on budget
>>16775892Why aren't these guys owned by grumman yet
goodnight
>>16775903lox and ln2 production for starship
You are never ever leaving this enclosed plane alive you retarded golem. CGI is all you get in this life, which is more than you deserve anyway.
>>16776020kek haven't seen you in a while
>>16775811>man-rated vehicle (for some reason)Technically 'man-rated' means 'able to be entered by a man', even through it does not carry crew.Eg. Progress is man-rated.
>>16775923fucking sportsball, they all need a free ticket on the B-ark
Tesla CEO compensation package proxy just dropped, last tranche is at 8.5T https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1318605/000110465925087598/tm252289-4_pre14a.htm
>>16776062
>>16776063
>>16776062>to retain and incentivize Mr. MuskWhat's he gonna do, quit?
>>16776066Yeah, he's been looking for an excuse to leave the publicly traded company and focus on private owned ones where he has more freedom.
>>16775437good recommendation. great source for learning about past present and future spehs
>>16776066yes? or at least not run it as a CEO anymore, focusing on other things
>>16776066xAI may run robot unit
>>16776070Yeah those bastard shareholders are absorbing valuable ai goon time
Succesful launch at 02h34 UTC of CZ-3C/YZ-1 carrying Shiyan 29 from Xichang LC-2
>>16776099>Shiyan 29 was developed by the Microsatellite Innovation Institute of the Chinese Academy of Sciences (CAS). It is primarily used to conduct space environment monitoring and related technology testing. The satellite utilizes the proven SECM3000 high-reliability satellite platform>After completing 10 launches in the first half of the year, the model team took advantage of the gap between missions to further accelerate rocket production preparations and upgrade ground-based test, launch, and control equipment, fully preparing for a continued high-density launch in the second half of the year. The model used the new-generation universal ground-based test, launch, and control system for the first time. Through equipment integration and system function consolidation, this system can reduce the amount of ground-based test, launch, and control equipment at the launch site by more than half.Xichang probably will return to the same ~2/month launch rate of the first half of the year.
https://x.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1963947340189872501>And Galactic Energy reports launch success of their 21st Ceres-1 rocket at 11:39 UTC, deploying 3 satellites for various customers and also launched their 2nd in-orbit payload hoisting platform named (yes, at least it's for the asteroid) "Eros".
>>16776062https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVMph8Oxnb0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVMph8Oxnb0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V7iuMrno64
when are we getting a movie about elon or spacex? there's got to be dozens of amazing movies that they can make.
>>16775947>first broadcast sports event from the poles of Mars>Curling heated stones across the sublimating dry ice of the ice capssomeone get me an AI image of this event, stat!
lotta china shilling in here rn....
>>16776109Render of the Eros/Àishénxīng platform. The description says it's derived from the Ceres S4 but it looks nothing like it (on the right)
>>16775940Yeah he is, just bring some air and food.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1963963885352104329
>>16776153blimey
>>16776099Sexy rocket but would it kill China to do more custom liveries, or at least change up the color scheme. They have about 284 different rockets, all of which are the same white and blue and red facsimile
https://news.sciencenet.cn/htmlnews/2025/9/550914.shtmCNSA's Asteroid impact study mission (DART+HERA equivalent) still planned, launch in 2027
>>16775812I didn’t realize the main engines on this thing were the RCS blocks from the Apollo CSM
>>16776153I feel like it was 200 just recently, then suddenly it was 300 and now it's already 500
>>16776168I swear anons were wondering what's the point of Falcon 9 anymore @ 200 launches.
>>16776168They’ve accelerated Falcon 9 launches so quickly recently that if you look at total launches ever performed by SpaceX, the first Starship launches from just a couple of years ago now sit firmly in the middle of their portfolio
What's the point of going here when you cna never smoke another cigarette in your life?
>>16776173I quit 2 months ago, I'm good.
>>16776173I'm sure smoking cigarettes will be among the vices permitted to counter the existential despair. It's like an arctic oilfield job in the extreme and you know how those guys are.
>>16776173this guy clearly didn't watch the second season of For All Mankind.
>>16776173>when you can never partake of the jew stickokay goy
>>16776173We will have a smoking room with tobacco pipes. It will be a large study with a dedicated air scrubber and books and perhaps a bar with guinness beer and bourbon
What will the /sfg/ KSA server be like?
>>16776173I've never seen this version of the image before. Can you sauce it please?
>>16776173Cigarette usage is at an all time low in the US, so I'm guessing you're a third worlder.
>>16776165They need to know asteroid properties too before planetary defense is actually possibleWhy are they smashing shit into rocks of unknown composition
>>16776191I'm going to figure out how to mod La Cucaracha as a horn on my space ships
>>16776192It's this one but with the atmo made more vibrant.https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54538337323_5a3dda0d89_h.jpg
>>16776191We build a dyson sphere around the Earth to keep everybody else from leaving.
>>16776192is that supposed to be Urf in the sky?
>>16776191We're going to find out if Kessler syndrome is real
>>16776114Wait until moon landing plus 20 years
>>16775307QI makes falsifiable predictions about the thrust produced by tape outgassing in space
>>16776211not if we install the powdered sugar mod
>>16775327Can anyone tell me what this post says?Please post a vocaroo so I can listen to it
So is Jared hopping back on the Polaris Program grind or…?
>>16775643It's actually called "ore ore sagi."
>>16776114there was one out not too long back. 'New Space' by frontier films. had a lot about spacex if i remember it.
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/1963978426152312842
>>16776249honestly insane people still doubt spaceX to this day and continue moving the goalpost every time
>>16776249>>16776279Selection bias of things they actually succeeded in doing, while ignoring things they attempted but failed at:>You're never gonna recover an F1 first stage using parachutesNever did.>You're never gonna recover a falcon 9 second stageNever did.>You're never gonna make Falcon 9 fully and rapidly reusable Never did.>You're never gonna make Starship upperstage fully and rapidly reusableYou are here.See how easy that is?
>>16776290here we go
>>16776290in all of these cases they didn't do it because they switched to a better idea>>You're never gonna recover an F1 first stage using parachutesswitched to a larger rocket and recovered it using propulsive landing. turns out this is way better than parachutes! parachutes add way more complexity compared to just using the engine the rocket already has to land it.>>You're never gonna recover a falcon 9 second stagethey (rightly) determined that full reuse for a medium lift rocket is pointless and started starship development>>>You're never gonna make Falcon 9 fully and rapidly reusablesame as above
>>16775154I see a lot of comment about China winning the "moon race"And they might land a human on the moon in 2030.This is where SpaceX was 5 years ago.
>>16776294The better idea they are already switching to with starship is having disposable single use upper stages. See HLS.
>>16776299They're not switching to expendable upper stage for starship. They're only doing it for HLS because musk doesn't care about the moon and nasa doesn't care about reuse.
eta on the real Starship 2.0?
>>16776298SpaceX has to go from a (barely) functional orbital rocket to perfecting full and rapid reuse, long term fuel storage, engine relight after mny weeks in space, and lunar landing/takeoff in only 4 years. Starship will be EXTREMELY unforgiving on landing due to it's very tall shape.
>>16776315that's starship 0.5
>>16776320Yeah I know.But you're all thinking they didn't think about it yet.Let's take the first concern, Orbital refueling.They have a plan.
Sean Duffyhttps://www.nasa.gov/podcasts/houston-we-have-a-podcast/advancing-nasa/Skip to around 12:45 if you don't care for his early life.
>>16776320Or maybe think about it this way.They wouldn't keep doing test launches if they weren't confident Fuel transfer could be done.
>>16776333he's a stupid dumbass boot kisser. His recent NASA town hall was awful
>>16776320It's tall but the center of gravity isn't high because engines are heavy.It's more stable than it looks.
>>16776334The primary reason for the long test launch campaign is to retain investor confidence. Even if theythought starship waas a doomed project they would still do test launches.
>>16776341Ok, keep smoking Anon.The whole fucking company would have to be in on the scam.Same thing as UN hiding flat ERF.
>>16776340also spacex control guys are actual wizards
>>16776346Why does everything have to be black and white with you? It's like you are a baby, please try to think with some nuance. The company is not a scam and I never said it is, but Musk is a genius showman and that's the most important thing he brings to SpaceX. He is fuelling Starship development by using his powers of investor hype. That incudes creating spectacular shows for investors to watch. The whole long test launch campaign approach is extremely expensive and may ultimately even take longer than just waiting until everything is ready. There is a reason nobody else does it like this, and no it's not just because they are incompetent. ULA would love to get away with the same shit if they could. The trick is that despite SpaceX having spent at least a billion on wasted launch vehicles, they have generated way more than that in funding rounds because of Musk's unique ability to hype.
>>16776357>The whole long test launch campaign approach is extremely expensive and may ultimately even take longer than just waiting until everything is readyhurr fuckin durr nigger how are they going to get anything finished without testing it? let's just sit around and twiddle our thumbs while our infinitely recursive FEA program runs, look how well that turns out every time for [ NASA / Blue Origin / ULA / BoLockMartGrummL3Harris / etc. ]>inb4 'waaah that's not what I meant'then fucking say what you mean, retard.
>>16776357Are you supposed to eat that thing sideways? Pull pieces off and eat by hand? What food even is that?
>>16776290actual retard
>>16776366tater spiral, no?
>>16776357>>16776370https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tornado_potato
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYOmMaBaQ3I
>>16776370>>16776372Never seen one of those in person, closest was when I made potato hasselbacks.
>>16776361?The primary usefulness of the Starship test program is that it's trained up the ground crews so they can hit the ground running when the vehicle is eventually finished. Other than that, wasting billions on launches is not going to bring V3 raptor any closer, and without V3 raptor the vehicle is practically useless.
>>16776209Nope it's Deimos
It's a reality that, if nothing big happens with regard to space in the next 5 years, it'll become an official position that the moon landings never happened and engineers will start getting rounded by as politicians start wearing crowns and demanding daughters and gold as tribute. It doesn't matter the echochamber the aeronautics community has built around itself. All it takes is one powerful person grabbing the opportunity and we're back to reed lights and court jesters. So it cannot be stressed as to the importance of the scientific community actually accomplishing something rather than just talking about it.
>>16776384I'm going to start punching people who question the moon landings irl. I don't care anymore and I have nothing left to lose by doing this. Fuck you.
>>16776384I've been saying it for years that one of the foundational beliefs of the new world order will be if you think America or China landed on the moon first. If China lands first then the entire proletariat of Asia and the third world plus MAGAstanis in the west will swear blind that the OG moon landings were faked all along and use it as ammo to say how evil the west is for lying.
I don't even like discussing moon landing conspiracy adjacent stuff because it gets me so angry. It's the most important achievement humans have done.
>>16776386Anon, don't misunderstand. I wholly believe that we have landed people on the moon. But the last manned moon landing was 53 years ago. It might as well be in a story book next to the dragon and the wizard.We slid backwards because the politicians only cared about missiles and money in their pockets. The golden age of exceptionalism fizzled out decades ago. You had the dreams of space and the future, and those murals have been long painted over. Where once were bright colors and space colonies, you now have brutalism and beige. You had things like Epcot just get dismantled from "a vision of the future" into brand maximization. The term "late stage capitalism" is kicked around, but we're there. I have doubts as to if there's a single country on the planet with a functioning nuclear program because there was money to be made defunding everything and pocketing the difference.So, back to my point, it's very important that something happens within the next 5 years.
>>16776396Yes, that's why I'm going to start hitting people in the face. We don't disagree anon, good luck in the new feudal age.
>>16776384No, that will be your position in your head. No one other than absolutely losers give a shit about playing the attention whoring games of moon truthers.
>>16776357>Musk is a genius showman>Musk's unique ability to hypeNever saw that in the DSM as an autistic trait. Wonder if maybe he's lying about that to cover up something else?
https://earth.nullschool.net/it is a nice planet we have.
>>16776408>Wonder if maybe he's lying about that to cover up something else?If you know you know.
>>16776406This has nothing to do about "moon truthers", Anon. This is a concern about it becoming a generally accepted thing. Because it's been 53 fucking years and, for most, there's been no visible progress. Oh, they claim to shoot a tin can into deep space every few years. Fucking wonderful. Woohoo.All it takes is one loud voice saying "these fuckers have been bamboozling us for decades" and you get to watch everything get defunded. No more free ride for NASA and friends at best, being chased out of the country somewhere down the curve of outcomes, and all knowledge being burned and forever along with their bodies at worst.So the consequences of not doing something meaningful within the span of a human lifetime with regard to space ranged from "no more catering" to "getting cornholed with a hunting knife and dumped in a burn pit".
>>16776411Wind is a fucking prick and I disapprove of it in general.
>>16776414>All it takes is one loud voice saying "these fuckers have been bamboozling us for decades"All it takes is one fist to bloody that cunt's nose.
>>16776414can't ever happen. shut up
>>16776414This is why I feel a natural intense dislike for theoretical physicists like ed witten. The guy has spent his entire career lost in the weeds of advanced math writing unfalsifiable nonsense rather than doing something useful. Basically may as well be a black welfare queen and his work may as well be science fiction. Too many are like this, and without useful advances the whole science industry will end up being seen as a scam by the public.
>>16776375raptor 3 wouldn't have given them any information about the booster downcomer not handling high AoA maneuversthe forward flap redesign is entirely divorced from what engines the ship hasevery reentry is another chance to test heat shield tilesyou're an absolutely incredible specimen of mental disability if you think upgrading to raptor 3 is magically going to give them a completely functional fully rapidly reusable vehicle, or that the test campaign isn't vitally important to ironing out literally every other aspect of the booster and ship; how do you even remember to breathe when you're that stupid?
>>16776414Who cares what the losers think?
the LORD himself has endowed me with divine intellect, making me greater that the LORD himself.
>>16776480Not possible, I hope you get AIDS Mr. Thiel!
>>16776414>becoming a generally accepted thingi didn't read the rest of your post, but this is unironically alarming and so annoying lol, just ask your family, friends, coworkers, anyone you know, and a good chunk of them will deny, or at the very least doubt the moon landings ever happened lmao
>>1677648670% of people in Russia think the moonlandings were faked.At this point it's an uphill battle because "why can't we go back now" is a valid question which requires a lot of explaining. Most people who believe we went actually do it through pure ignorance even less informed than the moon hoaxers. They casually belive that humans visit the moon all the time.
>>16776497And 0% of russians make an impact on advancing the human species, so maybe their cromagnon beliefs don’t matter
>>16776497>Most people who believe we went actually do it through pure ignorance even less informed than the moon hoaxers. They casually belive that humans visit the moon all the time.Quit smoking crack. That humans are still visiting the moon is a more plausible belief than the whole thing being staged.
I am staying, don't look for me.
>>16776513This isn’t how it looks IRL, by the way
>>16776514I need fiduciary marks laser engraved on my retina
>>16776514Show how it looks pls.
Them thinking we go to the moon all the time is better than not believing humans didn't go there at all
>>16776511What I'm saying is the moon hoaxers have done at least the bare minimum of finding out that humans presently do not visit the moon, which is better informed than others.
>>16776511>>16776518That's the spirit. We don't need results or replication to solidify the position of something. We only need faith.
The first human on the moon will be Jessica Watkins and she will land in July 2027 btw. They'll announce Apollo was a hoax after she plants the flag.
stop it stop it stop it stop even tangentially discussing it stop stopit infuriates me
"Van Allen belts"
>>16776531Fu Qju will be the first on the moon, small step for ywellow man, impossible for white man
>>16776539AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>16776541Quote from astronaut vaporised by the Van Allen belts
>>16776539Van Allen belts not Van Allen Dyson Sphere mind you
>>16776544After Komarov got fried in the Van Allen belt no-one has tried to venture beyond LEO
>>16776557radiation in space is a myth
/sfg/ has always hand waved radiation but true or false it would, at least, be unwise to spend extended times in high-radiation environments. You want to try and get out of concentration zones around Earth and fly quickly through them, you want to cover your habitat with regolith to block a fraction of incoming radiation, etc. I know it's not a mission killer, but /sfg/ seems to act like it doesn't even exist in any meaningful format? Doesn't seem completely right
Isaacman on Shawn Ryan show soon, here's a preview.Don't read the comments.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8q_YVEdbO6c
>>16776571define high-radiation environments (HINT: the van allen belts are not high radiation)
>>16776576>Shawn Ryan?
>>16776571The radiation can be discharged by the right kind of satellite.And then there are the shining examples of Dunning-Kruger who think that would be an environmental crime equivalent to burning the rain forests to do this. Nothing needs it to be there, and all you have to do is turn off the satellite and it will fill back up with crap in a few months.
>>16776577For the record Im not some sort of moon-landings-are-fake "debunker," but I have always been told that the Apollo trajectories intentionally minimized time spent in the van allen belt, thus I have always been under the impression that it is indeed a factor that needs to be mitigated
What does /sfg/ think of Apollo18?For me it's fantastic. Really sells the psychological horror of being alone on the Moon, and it's actually a brilliant portrayal of the Apollo LEM and CSM as far as movies go. For some reason normies seem to hate it because they think the premise is absurd or something. These are the same guys who fall hook line and sinker for movies with ghosts and shit, so idk what the big deal is.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmIx7H7yjaY
>>16776588how is middle school going
>>16776588idk I haven't seen it
>>16776589First watched it at that age but that was a decade ago. I still think it's good. Get yourself checked for anal warts btw becuase that kind of snark could indicate that you are a homosexual.
Literally trained myself by muscle memory to type out "DoD" here over the last five years and now they are changing the name to dept of war... literally why
>>16776595Cause it sounds cool
>>16776588the moon aliens in this are dumb. real moon aliens are probably the little grey niggas or nordics
>>16776595style over substance is the name of the game for this administrationsoon they'll rename the Sea of Tranquility to the Sea of Apollo or something and then dust their hands off and consider it a job well done
>>16776595Department of War rather than Defence is just bad optics. Not the only instance of this. They seem to openly talk about America as an empire and have contempt and flagrant disregard for their allies. Considering that every sucessful empire in history has a larp ideology which paints them as the good guys, the simplest explanation is that MAGAstani ideology is at least in part created and funded by foreign powers in order to destroy the west from within.
>>16776583More info on the Van Allen de-zapper satellite architecture pls
>>16776595Because it's correct and traditional. Department of (((Defense))) is post-WW2 gaslighting.
https://www.war.govI hate it
>>16776621Grim but more importantly cringe
>>16776625https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/executive-order-restoring-the-united-states-department-warActually jk this is the first time I have actually bothered to look up the EO and read the text, and it makes sense
Fuh-Q
>>16776631Looks reasonable.
what do you guys think of this sphere network idea?>some extra/ultra terrestrial group has a global AI drone defense grid that wards off or destroys other ayy shipsexplains the "why don't they just land on the white house lawn" question. They can't because if they got close they would get zapped by the ball defense grid
>>16776634He's gung ho on peace through strength, or "walk with a big stick". Someone tell him that includes Starship flying regular cargo and humans to the Moon over China's dinky LM9 and LM10. Starship is both a literal and figurative "big stick"
>>16776638GET A JOB
>>16776638Get a job
>>16776638don't make me sic Mick West on you, boy. Get outta here. We don't take kindly to your type.
>>16776638You should probably get a job.
>>16776649mick west is a hack
>>16776653he has never been wrong, he always stays objective and polite in debate, and sitrep is a very useful tool.Oh, you don't actually believe in aliens, do you? that's dumber than being a flerf, because if you're a flerf you are actually mentally ill, if you're just a casual "yeah, there are aliens" person you lack critical reasoning which is pathetic
>>16776655yeah there are aliens and yes I've seen them
>>16776659Illegal starship welders don’t count
>>16776663give me a good, logical reason why aliens couldn't be here.
>>16776667Because they don't exist anywhere in the galaxy.
>>16776173>He doesn't want to become the based botanist secretly growing tobacco and rolling cigars to sell or gift to his friends on special occasions
SHUT. IT. DOWN.>'The turtles and the nudists will have to migrate': SpaceX plan for Starship launches from Florida sparks debate among Space Coast residentshttps://www.space.com/space-exploration/human-spaceflight/the-turtles-and-the-nudists-will-have-to-migrate-spacex-plan-for-starship-launches-from-florida-sparks-debate-among-space-coast-residentshttps://old.reddit.com/r/space/comments/1n93uq4/florida_residents_dont_all_love_spacexs_plans_for/nck8gr7/
>>16776697>we are the center of the universe! the heavens revolve around us!this is how you sound right now.
>>16776701Where else are they supposed to launch hundreds or thousands times a year?
>>16776701>Do we really think someone who bought a house in Titusville in 2005 signed up for this?>Do we think someone who bought a house in Orlando in 2020 signed up for this?Deal with it or move. You didn't sign up for it back then, but you are aware of it now.
>>16776588Slop but genuinely fun slop, it's a fun watch.
>>16776705>"not my problem"
>>16776701Free SpaceX branded earplugs
>>16776585>Your Apollo mission does a bootlegger skid around the Inner Belt"Those crazy Duke Boys at it again!"
>>16776583> Nothing needs it to be thereWhere the Inner Belt turned out to exist was actually where 1950s Colliers Magazine Era space stations planned to be built. That had to change.
ummm actually, io doesn't have lakes because.... because it just doesn't, okay?!
>>16776788Because of an instinctive preference for a round number in orbit altitude and period, balanced with the ease of reaching a lower orbit.
https://x.com/thejackbeyer/status/1964096294768496917>Booster 18.3 test article just rolled out of the Starfactory! Awesome first close look at Starship V3 hardware!
>>16776701Avoiding nighttime launches seems reasonable to me.There is still room enough for many launches, probably more than will ever be possible.
>>16776315Painted Starship would look cool
>>16776797Paint is dead weight. That's why Shuttle tanks went from white to orange.
>>16776514Yes it is retard>>16776517That is how it looks
This isn’t how it looks IRLfag needs to fuck off
>>16776799Starship solves all mass autism concerns.
>>16776806If you want to carry paint, carry it as cargo and paint something at the destination.
ISRU paint
>>16776806>Starship solves all mass autism concerns.It doesn't, the mass autism is going to be even worse with starship
>>16776811>a few ounces of methane and oxygen per daywaste of time
>>16776795Night launches cause less disruption to airline traffic
>>16776812its true. when it stops blowing up every time and starts carrying payloads, the sub-par performance will mandate a tremendous campaign to delete shit and start replacing steel with lightweight shit, and later starships will be full carbon fiber, like it was supposed to be. the steel is for prototyping, a perfect design that performs reliably is worth the investment in becoming a Mass Avoidance Jew
>>16776816They'll mill out steel parts and make thinner walls before they ever think about switching to Carbon Fiber, and if they do actually decide to go with carbon fiber they'll probably use it as ribs and stringers instead of the hull surface to keep the thermal gradient the CF has to put up with between hot desert and cryogenic.
When I wake up tomorrow, I better see a completed static fire.
>>16776819take about 30 xanax to help you achieve your goals
>>16776701>audible boomsThe poor babies.When I was a kid, I lived in an exurb north of Ft. Sill in Oklahoma, and they did range practice a lot of nights. Not a single boom, but lots of them. There were helicopters too. I got used to it, to the point where it was even a bit comfy.
>>16776797Steel tempering colors would be more kino.
>>16776816>carbon fiberdefinitely how you get "sub-par" performance
>>16776834having a window facing the elevated train tracks in Chicago is even worse. Hell, any busy city has worse conditions next to their airport. Silence was never a guarantee, for millions of americans before them. These people can fuck right off with their complaints, they have gone unheard. I wanna hear Trump himself address this one directly by mocking them with lalalala I cant hear you lalala
>>16776797Fear not: Once they actually start trying to reuse these things and realise that singing the steel to several hundred degrees on reentry is bad for reuse, they will start putting shuttle thermal blankets all over the steel side. It will look magnificent. When they trim off the engine skirt on the bare steel side fir mass savings it will look even cooler.
>>16776841the ones complaining are going to be mostly lefty boomer women anyhow
>>16775895I like the idea of using a thermonuclear bomb to make a glass landing padIt's so stupid and would likely cause more problems than it solves.
"Hey hey!"
>>16776857Just use a covenant corvette
>>16776858WOW!
Dvngerously based.
>>16776863Joined together, glued together, taped together even
>>16776857Just fire all the engines max thrust (delightfully counterintuitive) and have the flames glass the regolith.
>>16776862the E.S.A. lander barely worked and was close to being a complete lost cause
>>16776858WAIT WHAT?!!?!?
>>16776173in space nobody can hear you vape or chew zin
>>16776588the real space side of it was pretty well done but the aliens didn't really do much for me. Apollo 11 is better in ever way.
>>16776867It still gave us one of the coolest photos ever
>>16776667give the world some good logical evidence that they are is really the way this works.
>>16776877I’ll be lenient and say yeah at least they were able to diagnose it and find a way to get data back, and it did manage to return photos of one of the most interesting solar system bodies we have.Cassini-Huygens was a very ambitious mission. Gotta love it
>>16776858WAIT....THAT'S INSANE!!1
>>16776876The real place the movie shines is in the setting which is very immersive, and the psychological horror of being trapped on the moon alone and slowly going crazy. They could have executed this without ayys to be fair. A more compelling and realistic plot would be that the regolith in this part of the moon has strang behaviours and turns your crazy if you inhale it.>Apollo 11The gosling movie? I could never get immersed in that because it's fucking GOSLING playing armstrong. The shooting was too clean and modern, lacked the grain and color pallete of Apollo era film, which Apollo 18 nailed.
>>16776884>The gosling movie?nah, thats First Man. i liked that because i'd never seen any of his other movies so it didn't bother me. thought it was really good. But i meant the Apollo 11 movie thats made from only original footage. check it out if you havent seen it. fantastic. settle back with a couple beers or whatever and enjoy. make sure you have good sound.
>>16776889Oh right, I never knew that existed. I will have to check it out, ty.
>>16776858I think this guy was in my dream, or at least people were talking about the hey hey guy. Except everyone kept saying it three times like hey hey hey
>>16776890im jealous you get to watch this for the first time lol
>>16776858"Back the fuck up!?"
>>16776874
>>16776906the built in suit garbage chute was a mistake.
USSF's Space Operations Command is under consideration to be renamed to Combat Forces Command>the name change better reflects the Field Command’s critical responsibility as the Space Force’s proponent for combat space power>The change also draws a clearer distinction between the U.S. Space Force, a military service, and U.S. Space Commandhttps://www.airandspaceforces.com/ussf-new-name-space-operations-command-combat-forces/>Space Operations Command (SpOC) is the United States Space Force's space operations, cyber operations, and intelligence field commandhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Operations_Command
>>16776858> I don't think the Mars landing next year has any legs to stand on What a knee slapper
>>16776906Techno Jamestown
>>16776878You can't be 100% confident that they don't exist without a good reason. No you can't prove a negative, but you also can't confidently assert there are no fish in the ocean without providing a reason why that might be the case.>evidenceWe DO have evidence. Videos, photos, government documents, trace evidence, radar data, Historical reports, corroborated witness reports from credible observers. Of course none of that counts because you say it doesn't. Evidence is subjective. always has been. There are plenty of examples of people who have put forward evidence of something only for it not to be accepted as evidence at all until much later. We had evidence of plate tectonics long before it was actually accepted as a theory for example. Look at Reg Sprigg. An entire period of the history of life on earth was overlooked because people wrote off his findings as geological in origin.
>>16776906This isn’t what it would look like IRL, by the way
>>16776940How would you know, you've never done zyns
>>16776944tobacco juul pod to 6mg spearmint zyn tin pipeline
>>16776939>Reg SpriggBack your containment board schizo.
>>16776946yes the guy who discovered the ediacaran biota. his discovery was widely dismissed as being geological rather than fossils which is what they were.People were confident that precambrian fossils were impossible at the time. turns out they were wrong.
>>16776949>the guy who discoveredstopped reading there. just because science gradually changed doesn't mean some schizo was right.
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>>16776953NTA but if you want a better example of a schizo actually discovering something that happened to be correct, see Alfred Wegener and his idea of continental drift. Everyone thought he was a huge faggot who was out of his league. Then they just kept finding evidence that showed he was probably right
>>16776953He was "accidentally right", huh
>>16776953>He wasn't right even though he was right???
>>16776939>none of that counts because you say it doesn't.no, its because most of it is worthless and at best indicates advanced aircraft of indeterminate origin. much more likely that its manmade, if we even accept any of the usual quality so called evidence. im not saying for 100% there are no aliums here but the case is pathetically weak. its more of a cult belief system than anything else. anyway, this is not the place for more discussion about this. start a new thread here or on /x/ if you're seriously. otherwise, goodbye.
You can't silence the truth forever.
>>16776963>much more likely that its manmadepeople were reporting flying "butane tanks" in the 60's and foo fighters during ww2. you can find historical newspapers reporting as much. It's not man made
https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/1964345671210930201>Super Heavy Booster 15-2 was lifted onto the Starbase pad 1 launch mount this morning for static fire testing scheduled for tomorrow morning.
>>16776983steady progress
>>16776967Pilots in WW2 were literally high on meth all the time
>>16776983how long until this beasty flies again?
>>167769992 more weeks + 2 more weeks + 2 more weeks
It's not a cobbled together piece of shit but an actual product. My disappointment is immeasurable.
>>16777008once again Elon lies on X
>>16776999need to static fire this, then put the jerry rigged test stand back on the pad to static fire the ship, take it off and then launchso who knowstwo weeks I guess
>>16776998Meth is the key that unlocks the immaterium
>>16776959Being right for the wrong reasons is useless Being wrong for the right reasons is logically defensible.
>>16777030Second part is cunty but true. Your first assertion is wrong, however
>>16776949See that [citation needed]? That means he's a schizo.
Still baffles me how NASA sidestepped the existing commercial rockets for Artemis and instead gave the most difficult and commercially undeveloped task to private entities. wtf were they on?
>>16777038pork - so much corruption and nepotism that it makes the soviet union seem principled and honest by comparison
hey guys I'm going to the store, can you watch to for my lander and make sure it doesn't tip over?
>>16776701I suppose he's right, rockets should launch elsewhere in the united states that's close to the equator next to an eastward ocean, and there's no peopleFucking idiot. Billions of people, our species can't go space unless it's tiny quiet rockets that can't do shit. Yeah they did sign up for it. If I move next to a volcano or place with a 100 year flood nature will hold me responsible whether I knew about it or not. Rockets aren't supposed to stay below 1960s capability for peace and quiet.
>>16776939>You can't be 100% confident that they don't exist without a good reason. No you can't prove a negative, but you also can't confidently assert there are no fish in the ocean without providing a reason why that might be the case.Your default should be null and things probably don't exist until evidence exists. The simple reason being there are more hypotheticals of things that don't exist than do exist.
>>16777050OH N-
>>16777050More like in-tipable machines.
>>16777050anyone have that comic strip version of it landing and falling over? that was good
Guiys why my upload faling
>>16777077what you uploading? too big? wrong format?
>Went from no trench to this
>>16777079A pic of the navy SEAL delivery vehicle
>>16777080would have been nice if it wasn't needed so they yoloed it at first
>>16776998>>16777028the spice that keeps the universe flowing
>>16777028DMT
>>16777080Why didn’t they just do a milk still like Saturn I and raise it off the ground
>>16777080Thunderf00t proven right again. Meanwhile you idiots were immediately gaslit into thinking that all flame trenches are superfluous and just dug because of muh incompetence.
>>16777050
>>16777090the tower would have to be insanely tall probably
>spaceflight?Long March 6A and Starlink launches this morning, but nobody cares.
>>16776998so they were awake and could judge soundly. The drunk Russian pilots on the other hand...
>>16777097Being drunk and driving is so fun, imagine how cool it was to fly drunk.
>>16777099Do drunk driving laws apply on the Moon? I guess NASA and POCKOCMOC and probably CNSA all have “no alcy in space!” rules, but what’s stopping someone like Jared from landing on the Moon in a private Starship and getting plastered and operating a vehicle lowered down to the surface?
>>16777096It's ok
>>16777083clearly you've been blocked by the MIB. sorry anon
>>16777106The what? Some new 4chan cuck ai?
Kingdom of the crystal skull is so retarded… who comes up with this shit?
>>16777096good
>>16777108Yeah its called MenINBlack.gpt
Anyone here ever print 3d models of rockets? Which rockets should I print?
>>16777151whichever one looks the coolest
>>16777155sure
>>16777061Can't believe no one made a cartoon of her getting fucked with her legs in the air
>>16777157gay
>>16777151make them out of matchsticks and cut up soda cans like a real man
>>16777151whichever one looks like it will fit perfectly up your ass
>>16777092
>>16777151Yeah a few years ago, my friend found me one online and printed up a couple for me. Neither were recovered but I didn't really expect my homemade chutes to work all that well anyway.
Oh so you like Titan? Name five Titanean surface features right now.
>>16777175>Oh so you like Titan?no, god nowhy did you even think that?
So who was the first fucktard that pitched the spaceplane meme at NASA anyway?
>>16777176post hypnotic suggestions
>>16777175Doom MonsMisty MontesFaramir CollesGandalf CollesBilbo Colles
>>16777176It's the only other world with Earth-like conditions on its surface, other than Mars. It has seas and shores, rain and wind, winding river deltas and endless sand dunes. It even has an blue atmsophere and cryovolcanoes. Titan is like a frozen Earth. Instead of rock, it has ice - instead of a magma ocean it has a water ocean. In place of water oceans, it has liquid methane lakes. Instead of magma volcanoes, it has ice volcanoes. It's a world that is almost as active as our own despite being so distant from the warmth of our sun and going through an entirely different evolution. What's not to love about Titan?
https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1964404023227822190>NEWS: SpaceX is challenging Colorado's broadband expansion plan, arguing that it's pouring too much federal funding into fiber projects instead of cheaper satellite alternatives, like @Starlink>"Colorado proposes awards covering 24% of its locations at average costs exceeding $10,000, over seven times the amount offered by SpaceX,” the company argues.>SpaceX added: "NTIA should carefully review Colorado's proposal, reject unnecessary and wasteful spending, and require Colorado to recompete these locations to give the Benefit of the Bargain back to the taxpayer and to bring internet to those who need it in months, not years."
>>16777182Probably the dyna soar team, and also maybe famed LSU grad Max Faget lol
>>16777151>>16777173It was so light that it broke in the middle after dropping it once, but I taped it back together and it flew just fine.
Is S38 ready for a SF too?
>>16776814also beachgoers
UFO hearings in 3 days
Ignoring UFO hearings in 3 days
https://youtu.be/_aVWGT6SVEMAlien probes have been here all along! Watch this video
https://youtu.be/TNtlzEnl8rA
>>16777094https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8JyvzU0CXU
>>16777175Selk crater, The dunes, Kraken mare
>>16777187Excellent decision by NASA to select Dragonfly
>Mr. President, they discovered we butchered innocent North Korean civilians >Go ramp up the UFO hearings so the schizos have something else to talk about
hello N1?
>>16777226Goodbye Moon
>>16777193>A Raptor vacuum engine for Ship 38 moved into MB2, once this is installed Ship 38 should have all 3 Rvacs and 1 of 3 Sealevel Raptors installed.https://x.com/Flight2Starship/status/1964335678407250014
>>16777226those attachment points look weak
>>16777230i'm sure they know what they're doing
V4 engines will fix the payload capacity
>>16777210lol, the height of that is close to the current Pad A
>>16777230In trusses we thrust
Ayo anyone know what happened to that US company that was trying to build a hydrogen powered reusable second stage, with the CEO with grey hair????
>>16777240stoke?
>>16777243Yes
>>16777240Stoke Space has a shot of surviving. Two more quarters to orbit.
>>16777230quick, give them a call. they need all the backseat driver advice they can get.
>>16777248they should add a little arch there. arches are good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQS6QP1HPgw
>>16776955I take that as an admission that the QI thruster has failed.
>>16777264It worked, it’s just inconclusive and the error bars are large also IVO may or may not have even turned it on, 50/50
>>16777246Jordan Peterson.
>>16777226If the booster was a human it would be a bald guy who has a fetish for getting his bald head pissed on by hookers
>>16777282jeff bezos?
>>16777278The tone of his post suggests he knows it was turned on, and yet the change in orbit never happened.
>>16777278if it works why don't they get Elong to give them a billion dollars to build one with 100x the power?
>>16777289Challenger I presume
QI is bunk why not look into electro gravitics instead?
