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>>16868797Also this is the first time I ever started a new thread I normally just post art and say SPEHS.
>>16868797WTF THE ACTUAL /SFG/ HASN'T REACHED PAGE 9 YET
Slop economy, we use cubes of AI as currency. Everybody becomes rich it's a gold rush
its over
Cancel SpaceX IPO
>>16868827copywhats over?over
>>16868797>we are going to mars!>no wait, we are going to the moon first!>actually, we are only gonna go to the moon>well, actually, muh AI in space>we're going public btwlol, lmao even
So anon, are we going to buy spacex stocks?
>>16868651>You’d need permission from the federal government>to travel to space*inhales*HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHALAND OF THE FREE, HOME OF THE BRAVEHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>16868797Early staging (except for image limit) is gay and early stage threads are always gay.
>>16868839I will buy at minimum 1 stock and if it will be public before ship catch, I will likely buy more.
>>16868834lmao look at that jank-ass ship
>>16868839I'll buy some, not sure how much yet
>>16868834ITS (Interplanetary Transport System)
>>16868845OP may be a faggot, but he saved us from posting in a thread that would 404 before you got any (you)s
>>16868843>'Ave you got a loicense for that webcam on your rocket?
>>16868806As much as I like to tell newfags to lurk more, the unwritten rules of when to start a new /sfg/ really should be in the sticky. A short explanation of why those rules exist to keep the catalog from being crammed full of spent /sfg/ stages would help too. This wouldn't stop it from ever happening but would be something anons could point to so newfags could learn the rules and why they exist.>Put it in the wikiNo one looks at the wiki. It doesn't even have anything about spaceflight or rocketry. Astronomy is the only thing somewhat close.
colonizing mars is the half life 3 of spaceflight
>>16868935Trvke
The point of the IPO is not to raise money in some general sense. SpaceX has positive income and growing revenue on top of a huge valuation. Elon is doing it to get a lot of cash fast, so that they can move as quickly as possible to start commercializing Starship at a massive scale.Everyone whining about muh 25 launches should be overjoyed. There's no telling if this is a good idea or a terrible idea, but it's going to happen very quickly.
>>16868963Holy cope and empty words
>>16868973You are retarded. Point out one claim that's incorrect, you worthless nigger.
Unpopular opinion: Humanity will die one way or another, a Mars colonization, interstellar colonization or an intergalactic colonization wont change it, only god can keep humanity alive forever, in heaven.
>>16868976The last human-descended consciousness will hover around the last decaying black hole for sustenance at The End.
>>16868798i appreciate your arts and saying spehs
https://x.com/robert_savitsky/status/1999429681108648082>Aerial shots from Roscosmos
>>16868976So why do anything but pray?
>>16868976Nice larp but>god
>>16869013thats a fuckton of lightning towers
>>16868888that thread will still be around for at least another day, newfriend
>>16869029i thought there were the aerials this guy mentioned >>16869011
>>16869027That's an ugly desert, did it rain recently?
https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1999500945030336550All Teslas will be Starlink connected
>>16869037wow they straight up copied from geely. who's the copycat now bitch?
>>16868976>Humanity will die one way or anotherwe'll see about that, buddy. we'll find a way to survive the heat death of the universe. ad astra per aspera
>>16869029Everything we're seeing here is doubled up. The Soviets loved building double pad launch complexes, so Site 200 is made up of pads 39 and 40. No. 39 is the last Proton pad that's still functional.>>16869034There was a bit of snow on the ground when Soyuz-27 landed, so the area's probably had it's precipitation for the year.
https://x.com/katlinegrey/status/1999438917108367752>Rumor has it, the maiden flight of Soyuz-5 launch vehicle will not happen this year and will be postponed to March 2026.
>>16869066Shocking
crazy that artemis 2 is supposed to launch in less than 2 months. feels like it's perpetually a year and a half away
>>16869073I can't wait for the entire normalfag world to ignore the flight completely.
>>16869073SLS and the entire Artemis program is just so lame. Ultra slow, overpriced by a ridiculous amount, tainted by politics, old ass technology that fails to inspire, NASA's ultra cringe coverage of literally anything. What even is the goal again? Of course we will all watch it when the time comes, but its so hard to get excited about any of this.
>>16869075>What even is the goal again?We're going back to the moon! Because... Well, we're going to beat China or something. Also first black man and woman and Canadian (the most important minority) on lunar orbit! Think of the little American children anon, they NEED someone who looks like them.The less cheeky answer is that they're trying to establish a long term research on moon bases, a ten missions in or so (if it's not canned after 3 very expensive ones).
This race to build datacenter racks with VC/debt money, with no realistic prospect of profits was already retarded enough, and now you want to build them in space.We can only hope SpaceX IPOs while there are still enough fools to be parted from their money.
>>16869089Well said
>>16869089two good things will come of this>innovation in space computing and heat management (maybe)>lots of money going to spacex
>>16869073It’s NET February, but also no *later* than April (it WILL be slipping to April or beyond…)
>>16869075Simply put, the goal since the circa 90s/00s was to just keep shuttle jobs online
>>16869073huh, I hadn't heard that they fixed the heat shield problem on Orion.
>>16869112They remedied it according to their human-rating standards, i.e. NASA [supposedly] now holds the issue to be fixed with 99.9% confidence. I personally think it will be a non-issue on the reentry back to Earth but it’s very popular here on /sfg/ to think they’re all going to die(again, according to NASA there is only a 0.01% chance of heat shield failure)
>>16869112They didn't. The found out what the problem was and then altered the flight plan in a way that they think will make the problem less of a problem while they work on a redesigned heat shield for Artemis 3. We won't know if the new trajectory actually works until Artemis 2 gets back, and we won't know if the redesigned heat shield works until Artemis 3 gets back. Also the life support system hasn't been flown yet so there's no way to be certain that it'll work in deep space either. And then we get to launch Artemis 4 on an untested Exploration Upper Stage, so we're not getting an Artemis mission that's not using crew to qualify unflown hardware until we get to Artemis 5.
M:Mercury, Mars2V:Venus1E:Earth1J:Jupiter1S:Saturn1U:Uranus1N:Neptune1
>>16869112Their fix is to change the reentry profile and hope for the best. Also their life support systems will be tested for the first time with humans on a free return moon flyby. If anything serious fails, crew dies, potentially slowly, over the several days of their trip. It’s a genuinely crazy high risk thing. Who is gonna be the Feynman character in the retrospective when they fail? Genuinely don’t know who currently has the same kind of charisma, general intelligence, and profile that Feynman did for the shuttle retro. None of the recent Nobel prize winners have that kind of cachet
>>16869124C:Ceres, Caelus2
>https://arstechnica.com/science/2025/12/investors-commit-quarter-billion-dollars-to-startup-designing-giga-satellites>build network of giant satellites>companies can pay to rent space on themi've been saying companies should do this for years
>>16868975that's the point, shitstick. You didn't make ANY claims.
A highlight for event participants came when the Perseverance team showcased how the ROC’s generative AI can assist rover planners in creating future routes for the rover. The AI analyzed high-resolution orbital images of Jezero Crater and other relevant data and then generated waypoints that kept Perseverance away from hazardous terrain. https://www.nasa.gov/missions/mars-2020-perseverance/perseverance-rover/nasa-jpl-unveils-rover-operations-center-for-moon-mars-missions/The rover then drove over a cliff edge to shatter on the Martian boulders below, while cursing in Hindi.
>>16869132>rent space>in SpaceHoly shit!
>>16869117>I personally think it will be a non-issue on the reentry back to Earth but it’s very popular here on /sfg/ to think they’re all going to dieThere's been issues with the capsule for many years, but most recently there's been this write up by Casey Handmer, a published physicist who worked for NASA's JPL (skip over to Heat Shield for the relevant part):https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/2025/10/31/nasas-orion-space-capsule-is-flaming-garbage/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFn9mFg1afk>Space-Based Computing | The Brainstorm EP 113
>>16869112NASA fixed it with their time-tested process of normalizing deviance.
>>16869124>Earth, Uranus, and Eris are the only ones that start with a vowelwe are special :)
>>16869161only in English.
>>16869167Do they have different names for the planets in Chinese / Russian / Hindi? I’ve genuinely never considered this before
>>16869167>EnglishThe only language that matters anyways.
>>16869169Chinese : Mercury - 水星 , the water star. Venus - 金星 , the metal star. Planet Earth - 地球 , soil/dirt globe. Mars - 火星 , the fire star. Jupiter - 木星 , the wood star. Saturn - 土星 , the ground star. Uranus - 天王星 , star of the king of the sky. Neptune - 海王星 , star of the king of the sea.
>>16869175Earth should be water, Mercury perhaps metal. Jupiter is definitely king. I hate the chynease so much it’s unreal
Dayum! Bejus rented out Citywalk for the Blue Origin Christmas Party. Bet employees got free parking in the good lot too.Styling!
>>16869178One day the last of the millennials will finally die off and maybe then our World can start to heal
>>16869175>Uranus - 天王星 , star of the king of the sky.>Neptune - 海王星 , star of the king of the sea.pretty sure those literally are Uranus and Neptune...
>>16869180Yeah, since those two are only viewable through a telescope the chinese never saw them before europeans so they don't really have chinese names. They just translated the english ones.
>>16868839Of course, but not when the IPO launches, as the price will go down as current shareholders sell. I will wait a few months, maybe a year.
speaking of which when did the telescope arrive in China?
>>16869179you do realize most gen z goon to minecraft porn and eating man ass right? the world is going to get way worse.
>>168691832 weeks ago
>>16868797goddamn it, carmack
>>16869124P:Pluto1
>>16869179i can't wait until zoomers get old and diet. boomer
Hi, Nils! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPHHQ-mhP1I
>>16869181Uranus, much like Urmom, can be observed by the naked eye. Dark skies, often at an elevated location, experienced observer using a star chart. But it's been done.There have been claims of Neptune observation, but not proven.
>>16869199Hey, Nils [math]\unicode{x1F604}[/math][math]\unicode{x1F604}[/math]
>>16869169yep. different names for stars etc too
>>16869177they are named after the 5 classical elements, not the actual gods or Greco-Roman religion. Uranus and Neptune were discovered later.
>>16869175Europe>Milky wayChina>River of heaven (天河)Yeah, I think the Chinese won this one
>>16869210>Jupiter is an element. Herp derp!https://www.nasa.gov/general/how-do-planets-get-their-names-we-asked-a-nasa-scientist-episode-45/
saturn is named after the rocket
>>16869202Okay but since uranus is so dim and moves so slow no one recognized it as a planet before telescopes.
https://x.com/RussianSpaceWeb/status/1999562350098067814>Pad personnel struggled to secure the mobile platform before last month's botched Soyuz launch but proceeded to liftoff anyway so not disappoint bosses and tourists, according to unofficial reports.Ah
>>16869224that's the most Russian thing I've heard in a while
https://x.com/ulalaunch/status/1999561716586135988>Attention rocket fans in the eastern U.S.! Here is your chance to see Atlas V streaking into orbit Monday morning carrying the next mission for the Amazon Leo broadband satellite constellation. This visibility map shows when and where your best chances are to see the rocket as it lifts off at 3:49 a.m. EST (0849 UTC) and heads northeasterly into space. ULA will offer live reports from launch control in our automatically refreshing blog beginning at 12:30 a.m. EST (0530 UTC). The launch webcast starts at L-20 minutes>3:49 a.m. EST It's not like I have anything better to do
>>16869229>Atlas VThis is a REAL ROCKET.
>>16869229Cloud cover predictions look pretty favorable
>>16869133There are at least 8 positive claims in the first three sentences.There are 3 more speculative claims in the last two sentences.Kill yourself immediately.
>>16869021t. soon-to-be anchorite
>>16869229>>16869239would be funny if i could still it from NB
https://x.com/davill/status/1999575473563844646>Another GS2 ready to fly. We completed a 15-second hotfire with serial number 4 today. Incredible work by our New Glenn team ramping GS2 production.
https://x.com/raz_liu/status/1999461013000007695>Possible expansion module of CSS which has a large observation window/dome.
>>16869215I was talking about in Chinese you tard
https://x.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1995172237545267284>The marine platform to recover Long March 10, named “领航者 Ling Hang Zhe (Navigator)", was delivered on November 30.
>>16869294next version
>>16868988I have free will to do as I chose, but I chose to spehs.>>16869196They've been friends a while, John was at the ship 1 a few seats next to Elon. Only person to turn down a SpaceX hire request multiple times, from Elon himself. Someone's gotta get AGI working.
Predict how the EU will attempt to regulate space data centers and/or gimp their own space industry.Here's what i've thought of so far1. Data and queries from EU user cannot be stored or processed outside of the EU. Therefore no EU data can be sent up.2. Radiators on satellites in LEO with high energy usage must not radiate heat back towards the Earth as this will contribute to climate change.3. Constellations that dispose of satellites by deorbiting them must pay a fee for polluting the upper atmosphere and a separate fee for the destruction of rare/semi-rare metals. Disposal of satellites into a higher orbit will still count as destruction since the rare metals cannot be used again. Only way to avoid this fee is to bring them back down for recycling.
>>16869089>little to none ram left on earth>not enough hdd production>lets send everything to a one way trip to space
>>16869304>I chose to spehs.>Flight: GO>GNC: GO>FIDO: GO>ART: GO>SPEHS: GOWe are go for /SFG/ and premature staging
Somebody needs to nut up and fund an orbital debris recovery service. Capture a defunct sat, drag it back to a high orbital outpost, scrap it in a shipyard so the materials can be repurposed. Dumping all the stuff on orbit back into the atmosphere is as retarded as throwing away your first stage every time you launch.
>>16869277cool but i thought they were going to just add the 3 extra modules to it
>>16869321a single starship could scoop up dozens between refuelings
Shut the fuck up.
Over Status: It's
>we need to industrialize space!>nooooo not like that
>>16869331yes we need factories and drydocks in space, not services and financial trickery
>>16869128>Who is gonna be the Feynman character in the retrospective when they fail?Sam Hyde
>>16869333Drydocks serving what? Factories for what?Services are the economy. AI is the perfect thing to manufacture in space, because it costs nothing to ship back to Earth
>>16869331not saying it wouldnt be good, just that it wont work for obvious reasons
>>16869329what are you babbling about this time
>bwaaa bwa bwaaahhow are we going to raise farm animals on mars if they bear jello babies?
>>16869274Blue's water deluge is far more impressive than the rocket flame plume.Why do they overdesign everything? Its not like its getting frequent use. This king of overcompensation is typical of short, balding men. Bezos is bald but he is not short.Remember SpaceX launched a superheavy with no deluge at all.
>>16869361mars has gravity, what are you on about?
>>16869339>Because it costs nothing to ship back to earth Apart from the astronomical launch costs to get the hardware up there which has a limited lifespan for the gain of what? Better solar power? You can slap down 100x the amount of solar next to your ground based data center for the cost of launch.
>>16869361the gainz train has cattle cars
>>16869339ships, parts for ships
>>16869376The payoff is making space an integral part of the economy
>>16869376>astronomical launch costsI have to ask. Are you retarded?
>>16869321someone is looking at doing that
>sx going publicmars is definitely never going to happen now
>>16869414One full server rack alone weighs about two tonnes, Falcon 9 to SSO reusable sources I can find say somewhere between 1.5-3t. Let’s be optimistic and say a Falcon 9 costs 10m per launch. Looks to me like you have to launch an entire falcon mission, paying ten million dollars to deliver a single loaded rack to space and that’s without all the ancillary shit which probably weighs many times more than the rack itself.I don’t know about you anon but I would indeed call that an astronomical cost. For comparison that same ten million dollars purchases approximately 800kw of solar panels at normalfag bulk retail prices, being a big commercial enterprise pushes it well north of a megawatt for the cost of a launch. You have to be braindead to think these economics work. Even starship doesn’t fix this.
>>16869445i-its all part of the plan okay?!?!? trust elon. patriots are in controll
>>16869323It's got enough ports for that. I don't think the overall plan has changed, but there's a lot of doodling going on in the details
>>16869453Maybe Snake was right, lalilulelo have been a disaster.
>>16869446What a retarded way to estimate the cost
https://x.com/lrocket/status/1999618538240438412?s=20>I’ve been talking about the need to move compute to space for a few years now, since about the time I founded Impulse. My thesis was not that it was needed because it is so hard/expensive to install terrestrial power, but because exponential growth of computer power could eventually crush resources on earth. This graphic is from my presentation and shows that computer power will equal all base power generation by mid 2040s. Compute is one of the few things that can be moved to space, but the product can be easily delivered back to earth. It just makes sense
>>16869464What a retarded way to seethe after being thoroughly humiliated
>>16869465>Another point of that presentation was that once you start building megastructures in orbit, it quickly becomes clear that it is way more efficient energy-wise to get material from the moon for building in earth orbit, which is why Elon is already talking about mass drivers on the moon to get material for his gigawatts of AI compute.
>>16869466Rack weight? Seriously dude, i do hope you are just "pretending" to be retarded, fof your sake
>fof
>>16869468>>16869466>>16869464Not a single argument presented
https://x.com/michaelnicollsx/status/1999630601046097947?s=20>When satellite operators do not share ephemeris for their satellites, dangerously close approaches can occur in space. A few days ago, 9 satellites were deployed from a launch from the Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center in Northwestern China. As far as we know, no coordination or deconfliction with existing satellites operating in space was performed, resulting in a 200 meter close approach between one of the deployed satellites and STARLINK-6079 (56120) at 560 km altitude. Most of the risk of operating in space comes from the lack of coordination between satellite operators - this needs change.
>>16869466Sorry anon caught you up in that didn’t mean to tag you
>>16869446Everything you just wrote was retarded. SpaceX doesn't pay market rates for launches. They won't be using Falcon 9. They won't be launching server racks.
>>16869472>SPACEX ALMOST CAUSES KESSLER EFFECT>ELON TRIES TO DESTROY EARTH USING SATELLITES tomorrow's headlines btw
>>16869476>They won't be using Falcon 9.>They won't be launching server racks.both of those are correct because data sats are a meme kek
>>16869476> SpaceX doesn't pay market rates for launchesCorrect, the external price is around 65 million dollars so I feel like knocking off 55 million dollars is pretty fair for a guess of internal cost.>They won’t be launching server racksThe vast majority of the weight of the rack is in the computing hardware not the rack itself which weighs not much and would actually have to be built HEAVIER for a space based application since it needs to maintain integrity at 4-5g during launch.>They won’t be using Falcon 9So they will be using Starship? The vehicle that keeps blowing up on the pad? Even if it drops the launch cost an order of magnitude when it’s fully operational in 5-10 years time it STILL is an economic clown show.
>>16867995You get free permanent power and free cooling in space
>>16869467>industrializing the moon :D>for AI shit :C
>>16869128Neil DeGassy Tyson
Why not have the best of both worldsDatacenters on the ground, powered from space
>>16869497>free coolingThe troglodytes we share this general with never fail to surprise me with their stupidity
Long March 6 launch any minute now.
>>168695031) Point your radiator into deep space2) CoolWhereas on earth you have to fuck around with water cooling and all sorts of red tape.
>>16869146>foam debris>could have just painted the side facing the orbiter with this
>>16869477of course. and shareholders won't be happy about it, doesn't matter if it's a clickbait headline.god, the future is grim.
>>16869509>Fuck around with water coolingOh no only the most effective form of heat rejection ever discovered! Look at a picture of the ISS, see the shitloads of radiators it needs to cool a handful of devices and some humans. Now scale this up to giant super hot bricks of computing devices, now imagine launching into fucking sun synchronous orbit this when instead you can just pull water from a fucking river.
>thunderf00t still silent
>>16869415
>>16869515And what are people bitching about constantly on earth? Datacenters consuming water.>shitloads of radiators >imagine launching into fucking sun synchronous orbitYes? Why not? The radiator size is always less than the solar panel size. So behind your solar panel is a radiator. Everything is in a fixed position. The location of the earth, because you're over the terminator, the position of the sun, the position of deep space. It's a very stable situation.
>>16869515Rivers are in extremely short supply. Space is plentiful.
>>16869361make them wear ankle weights, duh
>>16869364>Remember SpaceX launched a superheavy with no deluge at all.kek, that was cool it was like a 1kt bomb went off under the stand
>>16869521>Yes? Why not?Because it costs an obscene amount of money for negligible benefits? Obviously? Normies seething about using river water? Fine, just big build big car radiators and blow the heat out into the atmosphere which is still an infinitely superior heat absorption medium than a vacuum.I will go on the record that I do think it’s the logical place for datacentres, but not when launch costs are like this. This is a thing you do when you have reusable vehicles the size of sea dragon or bigger.
>>16869512A big part of the problem was that NASA had to use CFC-free foam because muh envirunmunts. And coating it (even painting it) was out of the question because of weight autism.
>iposo that's it? life will die on this mud ball? what a fucking joke
>>16869520That series was so fucking awesome, I watched it when I was a kid. It was funny seeing how not-wrong that show was when a crazy rich guy made a water tower fly.
>>16869531What can men do against such reckless hate?
>>16869533I seem to recall a lot of run-ins with big government and military as well
>>16869523space is also plentiful on earthspace does not provide cooling
>>16869536How do starlinks work then?
>>16869531People are dooming unnecessarily hard about it. Things will actually be completely fine.Public float will be a tiny percent of the company, Musk will still have ~80% of the voting power, and any lawsuits will now have to go through Texas corporate law.
>>16869530>weight autismNASA really shouldn't let weight autism kill seven astronauts ever again
>making space an integral part of the world's economy It's never been more over
>>16869539>muh sistah was bit by a rat but whitey on da moon
>>16869537It’s a glorified router network not a datacentre consuming jiggawatts of power and glowing with heat like the sun
>>16869543
>>16869544Can you put some numbers onto your hyperbole?
Gentlemen, prepare for levels of FUD never before seen. Will probably be the most attacked public company out there, even more than Tesla.
>>16869549God, buying that dip the first couple times a booster or ship nukes a tower is gonna be so delicious
>>16869214>Milky wayVia Lactea sounds much better
>>16869539Can't a company also draw up a charter when they go public, which could include things such as pursuing Mars colonization in SpaceX's case, that would be legally binding and thus scuttle any shareholder lawsuits attempting to stop Mars launches? I've read multiple people saying as much.
>>16869551*Vía Láctea :^)
>>16869551but Milky Way has a nice comfy sort of Anglo/19th century/Christmas vibe to it
>>16869502counter offer: datacenters in space, powered from earth
>>16869546this is what google ai says
soo... if the AI bubble bursts, then what? we go extinct?
>>16869558no, we just go back an epoch
>>16869558only companies reliant on AI will go extinct, everyone will just go back to business as usual
>>16869558Catastrophic financial event, would mog every other financial event. So instead the government will just print some more money instead to backstop and bail them out, normgroids will seethe, protest, get dispersed by pigs with tear gas and life will carry on with ever more inflation.
>>16869175>Uranus - 天王星 , star of the king of the sky.> Neptune - 海王星 , star of the king of the sea.These don't count because they're copying the western names Their trad ones are all shit And what about Pluto?
>>16869558We would have to kill to survive
https://x.com/wulei2020/status/1999672329392275788>China's Kuaizhou-11 Y8 Launches 4th Mission, Deploys 2 Critical Satellites at 09:08 am BJ Time, Dec 13 from Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center. Payloads: Diri-5 space experiment module + Hope-5 Phase II satellite
>>16869515>Good old water cooling. Can't go wrong with water.He's the Heatsinks Can't Space Guy, but damp.
>>16869567So from this we can conclude天 = Sky and 海 = Sea王 = King星 = Star
>>16869588They're launching ballistic missiles into space again.
https://x.com/michaelnicollsx/status/1999630601046097947>When satellite operators do not share ephemeris for their satellites, dangerously close approaches can occur in space. A few days ago, 9 satellites were deployed from a launch from the Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center in Northwestern China. As far as we know, no coordination or deconfliction with existing satellites operating in space was performed, resulting in a 200 meter close approach between one of the deployed satellites and STARLINK-6079 (56120) at 560 km altitude. Most of the risk of operating in space comes from the lack of coordination between satellite operators - this needs to change.https://x.com/cas_space/status/1999674146934992994>Our team is currently in contact for more details. All CAS Space launches select their launch windows using the ground-based space awareness system to avoid collisions with known satellites/debris. This is a mandatory procedure. We will work on identifying the exact details and provide assistance as the LSP.
>>16869224https://russianspaceweb.com/baikonur_r7_31.html>A veteran of the Baikonur Cosmodrome with good contacts at the center reported on the Novosti Kosmonavtiki web forum that the mobile platform had not been properly secured in its underground shelter before launch, which let the blast wave from the rocket exhaust pull it off its guide rails and into the flame trench. However, the collapse clearly took place some moments after the liftoff, because photos of the launch capturing the flame duct showed no signs of the failure.>According to one rumor from Baikonur, the mobile platform was retracted and moved back to the rocket as many times as five times, as the specialists tried unsuccessfully to secure it in its parking position inside its shelter, after the routine call to retract the platform had been issued during the final countdown less than an hour before launch.>When the personnel was finally ordered to evacuate the pad some 30 minutes ahead of the liftoff, the decision was made to leave the platform in its parking position inside its shelter without securing it properly rather then to postpone the launch. It was not immediately clear who made a decision to proceed with the launch despite this clear violation of launch criteria.>The veterans of the center speculated that the mission management had been under pressure to go ahead with the launch so not to disappoint high-ranking officials and as many as 3,000 paid tourists who came to the remote center to witness the event.
>>16869331>computers>industryanon... just in case you haven't realised: most computer tech is a scam. the fact that retards pay for it and even shill it just proves that they are retards.
>>16869591
>>16869567>what about Pluto?"Dog of the Mickey"
>>16869558lots of stupid companies are hopefully let to die
>>16869543Would going public protect them from all the "muh turtle" etc posturing, since they can argue that it's obstructing the company
>>16869567冥王星, míngwángxīng, or "Underworld King Star." It's just another western name-copy.
>>16869629it's crazy that they never forced SpaceX to inflict sonic booms on that seal. Elon just thought it would be funny
>>168689762nd law of thermodynamics is more of a guideline.
800 billy
>>16869630Lame shit
grim
>>16869505Psyche!It was a KZ-11 launch instead, taking a long-awaited Dier-5 payload.
sigh.... goodnight /sfg/
>>168696091) All SpaceX starlink data is public2) SpaceX cannot contact China
>>16869669Kys glowie
>sfg is deadjust like the mars dream...
I'm dead personally
>>16869325Don't compare SPECTRE's magnificent ssto with Musk's boondoggle
>>16869553It's cope I'm afraid.
Why do I still have this thread open when everyone is asleep
>>16869704I'm awake
>>16869503the free cooling is free in the same way the power is freeyou just need to build a big radiator/solar panelon earth is quite a bit more complicated, neither of those things just work by themselves
>>16869527no, starship will be fineits big enough to be fully reusable
>>16869557starlink v3 will be 20kw, the data center starlinks based on v3 will be about 100kwbigger panels and radiators, but no big power drawing and heavy phased array antennas (only need small laserlinks to communicate with the starlink network backbone which will get the data down)you could probably fit the mass and volume of a Groklink into two Starlink V3s
>>16869704i just woke up
I've said it before and I'll say it again, a planet with a 1 hour day night cycle would be very habitable
>does barely the minimum required>wins the space race (v2.0)how did he do it?
>>16869735> Combine the drawbacks of a gravity well with the dizzyness drawbacks of a small spinhabUm..
>>16869750doing just enough constantly over a period can get you to the finish line. step by step ferociously and whatever. not that he has won the space race at all because he barely has put shit to orbit. wake me when he is uploading more mass/making more $ than speX
https://x.com/cas_space/status/1999747246771032181
What is Starship payload to SSO compared to payload to the usual LEO? Also considering that spectrum launches in northern Norway and that Starship is low energy. And are there any complications with landing back to launch sites that are used for the usual LEO launches?
>>16869075The goal is to bring DEI to the Moon and erase the white-supremacist, patriarchal, Nazi-ist Apollo missions from history.
>>16869123The whole Artemis mission is bonkers to me. The Apollo missions tested everything in steps including Lunar descent right up until the actual landing before going ahead with it. This was a time when young proud white men were working in unison to beat the commies, versus a time where nationalistic pride (in America) is at an all time low, everything has to go through fifteen layers of bureaucracy to get anything done, and the entire west is going through a competency crisis because of non-whites and women infesting every institution. I can only see it getting messy.
>>16869753>200m close approachnothingburger
>>16869761Don't you know about gravity assist?
"Hey Hey! Whoosh!"
>>16869693they are basically the same thing only Blofelt somehow had the v5 model that didn't require a tower catch
Where are we on this?
>>16869622
IPO = it’s practically over
>entire world to explore at our doorstep>exploration, manned or robotic, basically stopped in the early 1970s despite having the technology to do so>i could have been born into a world where we had robots exploring lunar caves and we had surface photos of every major lunar feature and bases all over the surface>instead all i got was a pressurised tin can floating on the edge of spaceIt's not fair.
>>16869766Still almost 20 days to go
>>16869779They would have had to been launched a long time ago to be arriving now
>>168697664 year reprieve due to the coof
>>16869766We only got people to LEO and 10,000 sats. What a failure
>>16869787
>>16869693Don't forget SPECTRE's shittle and space station.
>>16869229Atlas V Leo-4: Payload Explained!The Leo 4 mission will use ULA's #MightyAtlas V rocket to deliver Amazon’s Leo satellites into low Earth orbit. Launching from Cape Canaveral SLC-41. The mission follows a precise ascent sequence designed to place the spacecraft into the correct orbital position.Following final readiness checks, the RD 180 engine and five GEM 63 solid rocket boosters ignite at liftoff. Together they produce more than two million pounds of thrust, providing the power required to deliver the payload to orbit.Shortly after clearing the tower the rocket performs a pitch over maneuver. This aligns the vehicle with the planned ascent path while managing the dynamic pressure experienced as it climbs through the atmosphere.As Atlas continues upward it reaches Mach 1. At approximately 96 seconds into flight the five solid rocket boosters complete their burn and separate from the vehicle.With the boosters jettisoned, the guidance system takes full control and steers the rocket toward its precise target in space. The payload remains protected inside a 5-meter fairing that shields the spacecraft from heat, acoustics, and aerodynamic pressure.After crossing the Karman line, entering space, the payload fairing is no longer needed and is jettisoned. The booster stage continues its burn until its remaining propellant is nearly depleted. Main engine cutoff occurs, and the first stage separates from the upper stage.Centaur begins second stage flight at less than seven percent of the rocket’s liftoff mass. Its RL10 engine ignites to place the mission into a circular low Earth orbit. The burn ends with engine shutdown, after which Centaur rotates to the correct orientation for deployment.Centaur then releases the Leo satellites into their operational orbit. Once separated, the spacecraft begin their mission of supporting reliable internet service for users around the world.(why can't spacex do mission briefs like these)
>>16869704Why do they sleep with lights on
>>16869911You broke the silence.
>>16869911We were trying to sleep, then you piped up :/
>>16869558Not really space related but companies financing those big AI centers aren't in debt.They would just lick their wounds and go on with less money in the pocket.The same happened when google invested in google glasses and failed hard or facebook with the so called metaverse.
https://x.com/ulalaunch/status/1999891584968483126>United Launch Alliance announces the arrival of our Atlas V rocket at its Cape Canaveral pad to launch Amazon Leo 4 on Monday at 3:49 a.m. EST (0849 UTC). This will be ULA's fourth of 46 missions dedicated to delivering Amazon Leo satellites into low Earth orbit for the broadband constellation to connect the world.ULA will launch five rockets in 2025 and four of them will have been Atlas V
>>16869922What a joke of a company
>>16869926>how it started
>how its going
>>16869931>>16869932Now THAT is grim lol
>>16869934November 2023https://x.com/GrumpyOldShaman/status/1724331813714399324>What do you anticipate for a launch cadence six months after Vulcan proves successful? Is two per month too conservative?https://x.com/torybruno/status/1724410347027824827>Yes. 2 per month in 2025June 2024https://x.com/torybruno/status/1816835069878657390>Another Vulcan departs Alabama and heads to Florida, making room in our crowded rocket factory. 23 Vulcans in production!!!https://x.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1816836160892617129>Do you envision Vulcan reaching a launch cadence of around one a month in the years to come?https://x.com/torybruno/status/1816860305567203334>2 per monthMarch 2025https://x.com/Abdulla42523943/status/1905211817393377312>Hey @torybruno, how many launches you are planning for First Half of this year, both Atlas V and Vulcan in a sequence after this certification has given to your awesome team and which i personal waiting from Vulcan Cert-2 launch.https://x.com/torybruno/status/1905236218948026421>We’ll pick up at about 1 per month and work towards 2 per month by the end of the year, going into 2026Tory's been insisting that ULA is just around the corner from launching twice a month for the last two years.
>>16869944woah, an aerospace CEO lying on record about future timelines for his rockets?? what a conman, better call businessinsider, cnn, the guardian, cnbc, etc etc, oh wait, they don't give A SHIT. hey, remember hyperloop?
>>16869769kek
>>16869944Remember 25 starship launches this year faggot
>>16870002Starship arguably already has a cadence of once per month if it's not exploding or block upgrading or both.
>>16870042lol lmao even
shut the fuck up
>>16870002Starship is a shitcan that launches way less than everyone wants it to—yet it’s still launching more than ULA’s entire itinerary of Atlas V and Vulcan (combined)… and that’s not even bringing Falcon 9’s insane cadence into the comparison
>>16869944lmaooo
>>16869922>"BRO 25 LAUNCHES OF STARSHIP IN 2025 BRO 25 LAUNCHES AMIRITE BRO AHAHHAAH FELON MUSK IS A JOKE!!!"oddly silent now aren't they
nationalize ULAimprison Tory Brunohe didn't invent expendable rockets, the engineers do all the work
https://x.com/latestinspace/status/1999951902315053212>Tonight is peak of the Geminids meteor shower, with up to 120-150 meteors/hour under perfect conditions. NASA is also predicting lunar impacts on the Moon every 12 minutes
https://x.com/katlinegrey/status/1999958413170942341>The launch of Proton-M rocket with ElektroL №5 meteorological satellite from Baikonur has been postponed for few weeks for technical reasons (according to the sources - problems with DM-03 upper stage). The rocket will be brought back to the assembly hall.
>>16870177Me when I launch from the ground service tower of calamity and evil aura
>>16870180Proton's actually got a pretty nice mobile service structure
expendable launch pads
>>16870183Proton is sexy and I am sad that it is at its end-of-life
>>16870185We're not going to be seeing the last Proton launch until at least 2033. There's still a stack of them stashed in a warehouse somewhere.
I wonder what Rogozin is up to these days
https://x.com/RocketLab/status/1999950741461754238>"RAISE And Shine" and welcome to launch day. Our 77th Electron mission is scheduled for liftoff for JAXA today in T-5 hours. Liftoff is set for 10:09 pm ET.
>>16870187Someone has to buy the launch. Otherwise they stay in the box.
man i love nasahttps://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/KSC-20251210-PH-KLS01_0197/KSC-20251210-PH-KLS01_0197~orig.jpg
>>16870177https://t.me/roscosmos_press/3280>launch of the Proton rocket was postponed due to technical reasons. The reason for the postponement was a problem with the uploading of the flight program into the DM-03 upper stage. Despite the proposed options for circumventing the problem, the management of the State Corporation decided not to take any risks and eliminate all possible comments under normal conditions. The launch vehicle will be removed from the launch pad, and the upper stage will be disassembled to fix the malfunction of the on-board computer of the upper stage. It may be necessary to send the on-board computer to the manufacturer. After the upper stage systems are restored, the rocket will be returned to the launch pad and will launch the Electro-L meteorological satellite No. 5 into orbit. The launch will take place in the coming weeks. DM-type upper stages are designed to transfer spacecraft from the reference to the target near-Earth orbit, as well as to departure trajectories. This was supposed to be the last flight of the DM-03 in this modification (not counting the DM-03 variants in the form of Perseus and Orion upper stages for Angara).
>>16870077So, now you're just making things up now? Guess that can work.Starship launches to orbit: 2025 - Zero
>>16870042"Now THAT'S Comedy!"
>>16869926ULA has that sweet backlog. Hate the game not the playa.
anti-musk tardsOUT
https://x.com/MattFaustini/status/1999854811311993191>Tell that the 1,000 companies, thousands of workers, billions in advanced industries in our poorest states lost and put our entire non SpaceX aerospace industry in the hands of a ketamine addict that killed 400k children in USAID cuts that cost of more money than saved
>>16870205Most of their backlog is for Amazon, and they're going to be lucky to get two payloads of Leo off the pad before New Glenn passes them in cadence and starts eating all of Kirkland's satellite production.
>>16870200Oh yeah you’re right, my bad, Tory is dunking on that fool Elon.Business is good, r-right Mr. Bruno?
>>16870205And for the next part of my master plan: I will procure dozens of customers who don’t actually have hardware to launch! (pls save me NROL gibs AAAAHHH I CANT FIND ANY HEDGEFUND TO SELL TO!!!)
>>16870209The Atlas backlog is set. Amazon is going up in close and the Starliners are paying rent.Vulcan Amazon launches are more iffy, but all those sweet vastly overpriced government launches are a cozy money quilt.
>>16870212Keep launching net negative payload into the Indian Ocean, Elon. Then the real game can begin.
>>16870215Amazon has only four Atlases left after this next one and if Starliner has any serious problems with its next uncrewed test flight it's just going to get canceled. It's unlikely that Amazon would want to buy the rockets that would free up as they've got a higher price tag than Vulcan and are far less capable than New Glenn. Further delays for Vulcan could see ULA lose some of those NatSec launches to Falcon since the Pentagon is pretty pissed about the delays they've had to put up with so far. ULA can't afford any more setbacks and at this point not being able to pull off at least monthly launches is a major set back.
>>16870218Sure thing. Spoiler: rockets that work book more launches than vanity projects that are still exploding during prototype tanking.
zubrin
>>16870226>more launches Are the more launches in the room with us right now?
When next chinee landing attempt
>>16870239Three beats zero. Simple as.
>>16870242Next Wednesday
>bored anons roleplaying as ULA shills againslow hours, anything interesting happening this weekend apart from the rocketlab launch? also, still no news about their reusability plans for electron, I think they just gave up and decided to focus on neutron instead.
>>16870244It really doesn't. Three launches in twenty four months is a travesty for an "operational" rocket. If Amazon was negotiating launch contracts today they'd be buying 40 Terran Rs and never bother looking at Vulcan.
>>16870254Electon's too just small for reuse to be practical. The extra weight of the recovery gear cuts into its margins enough that it can't launch some of its customers, the cost to refurbish after recovery aren't that much less than the cost of building a new rocket, and even with a record year Rocket Lab hasn't maxed out their production capacity yet.
>>16870256>The extra weight of the recovery gear cuts into its margins enough that it can't launch some of its customersyeah, I thought the very same thing, but was still surprised back when they had first announced it. All in all I still think it was cool that they were serious about it. Perhaps this whole experience with the mid-air catching method will be useful for when Neutron arrives, despite having a completely different recovery profile.
>>16870256What happens if neutron inadvertently ends up inheriting the same problem? i.e. its cheaper to expend the vehicle based off of their paying customer’s pretty penny to just get a payload somewhere, at any price?
>>16870262guess we'll have to consult the reusability equation in that case
https://x.com/RocketLab/status/1999998997847765093>It's looking like a fine day to launch a rocket. Just under three hours to launch for JAXA, with the early weather forecast 90% favorable for launch at 4:09 p.m. NZDT / 03:09 UTC.
>>16870255"Three isn't more that zero! Because -- it just isn't okay!"Starship: Negative mass to orbit. Because it doesn't get to orbit and dumps air from the hold Alexa by the way.
>>16870287Is Clear streaming? I might tune in for fun
>>16870292Maybe? It'll be early afternoon in Japan, and they are launching a JAXA payload, so you'd think she would be. She's retweeted a JAXA post about the mission so it's not like it's flying under her radar. >>16870289Are you having a stroke?
https://x.com/ESA_transport/status/1999754062049509718>Rocket ready! The two Galileo navigation satellites that Ariane 6 will launch into space are now on top of their launcher. Countdown to liftoff: December 17th
the homeless dont need homes, the hungry kids dont need food, the climate doesnt need saving. the universe is littered with dead civilizations that focused on the problems on their homeworld instead of colonizing space. move forward. or go extinct.
>>16870292https://x.com/clearusui/status/2000027635360129326>Let's watch the launch of innovation!!,No link yet but it's happening
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMP328yoUu4>Rocket Labhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REvfb0KvU_Y>JAXAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEetXzZiLjU>Clear Usui
>>16869694Why?
Seeing Clear happy and excited keeps me interested and hopeful for the future of spaceflight.Can't wait for for her ISS stream and new 3D model.
IT'S OVER
>>16870339yeah, for spacexgo kiwis
https://x.com/NoLifeJordan69/status/2000043202020057208>foil peeling off woah
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2000029599565287913?s=20>Apart from the obvious prediction that AI perf/watt will improve, everything else you’ve said is false
Nothing is happeningI did get my official Artemis 2 patch at work which is nice
>>16870371https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bydgRejCR7cThere's a Starlink launch in two hours
>>16870354no space rats this time
https://x.com/RocketLab/status/2000055016187732338>MISSION SUCCESS! Payload deployment confirmed for Electron's 77th launch, releasing JAXA's RAISE-4 satellite to a 540km LEO
>>16869502Some will attempt this, but the regulatory advantages of satellites will win out. We may finally get serious orbital solar plants out of the deal in the meantime though.
>>16870396Ironically, solar is stuck in the same mess as space mining. The best use for it is doing things in space rather than trying to bring the product back to the surface.
>>16870399ish, the advantage data and energy both have relative to physical goods is transport is a lot easier. The trick for power is going to be overcoming losses, but we've been confident for some time that it can be worked around.In the end, all this investment is just going to accelerate the development of a purely spacebound economy. People have even looked into reworking O'Neill's plan with an initial bootstrap colony/refinery facility built in LEO with Starship/New Glenn to boost to L5 before getting deeply into building lunar surface infrastructure.
>>16870410and if SpaceX does go and build a lunar surface fab, even if it's more limited than Elon is aiming for (let's say it just makes structural truss elements and solar panels), that can and will be applied to tons of other projects unrelated to AI systems, and can be expanded into areas necessary for things like large scale station construction even if most of the advanced hardware (chips) still comes from earth.
https://x.com/Peter_J_Beck/status/2000073517870788625>Nice new camera angle from today’s launch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bydgRejCR7chttps://x.com/i/broadcasts/1yoKMPjYrNnxQT-3:00
>>16870424A very Vandenberg evening in California
>>16870424fog as thick as peanut butter
REST OF THE WORRLLLDDDDDDDDDD
Why not move humanity to space? It would decrease delay between humans and data centers in space.
>>16870432I don't give a shit about data centers
>>16870426Fly anyway
>>16870209>Most of their backlog is for AmazonSelling most of the remaining Atlas V to Amazon really pissed off the USSF and has only sped up their moving on from relying on ULA as their primary launch provider.
Guys I think we're reaching an upper limit on F9 launches
Thoughts on Elon now that SpaceX is going public and will be sued into abandoning Mars?
>>16870452whats the bottleneck? lack of payloads? lack of launch pads? lack of talented workers?
>>16870460Pad turnaround is probably the actual hard limiting factor. They probably don't want to further scale up the Falcon program even if they certainly could, because Starship is Coming™ and after that happens they'd need to decommission extra launch pads and shut down more production lines and reassign or fire more people. Better to reach the limit of the current infrastructure than build more. Also lack of desire to scale up production on the weird in-between version of Starlink they're on right now instead of getting the v3 lines worked out.
>>16870452if they ever bothered to get the second pad at Vandy online they could go over 200
https://x.com/BoosterTribe/status/2000123457393021185>Christmas at SpaceX
>>16870371>Doesn't post the patch. Doesn't even a Google image of the patchMost low effort General and that's saying something.This patch designates the mission as “AII,” signifying not only the second major flight of the Artemis campaign, but also an endeavor of discovery that seeks to explore for all and by all, with inclusiveness and diversity. Framed in Apollo 8’s famous Earthrise photo, the scene of the Earth and the Moon represents the dual nature of human spaceflight, both equally compelling. Also, the patch was designed by a Trans Woman -- if that matters!
The reversible version, so you can watch the crew incinerate on reentry when the heat shield fails.
>>16870452Nope. First quarter of 2025 was slowed down. F9 starting speeding up later on. So the max they can do is prob a lot more. They're now launching ~5 per week. 52 x 5 = 260.
The A2 Astromutts also get a personal patch, because the mission wasn't cringe enough. The Canadian's is full of fake Canadian Indian lore because of course:This patch was created for CSA astronaut Colonel Jeremy Hansen in honour of his participation in the historic Artemis II mission to the Moon by Anishinaabe artist Henry Guimond of the Turtle Lodge.The heptagonal shape and the animals are a reference to the Seven Sacred Laws, a traditional First Nations teaching shared with Jeremy in preparation for his journey around Grandmother Moon. This teaching is but one example of many rich and selfless teachings found in the diverse cultures of Indigenous People...And "Turtle Island" and so on.
Engine heating effects in KSA
>>16870493What about paying homage to the white people that made spaceflight possible, rather than the stone-age ramblings of tribes of niggas who contributed nothing to the world?
>>16870498Sorry no. But you get Bigfoot:Sasquatch or Bigfoot – Sabe or “giant” in the Ojibway language – represents the importance of honesty and being true to one's word. Say what you mean and be honest with yourself and others. Elders often exemplify this trait; when they say something, their word is a commitment and can be counted upon. Honesty is also speaking true and good words about others and avoiding gossip.
>>16870481>This patch designates the mission as “AII,”As in all Artemis is ever gonna do.
The wolf represents humility, acknowledging that there is a higher power and natural laws governing the universe. Showing gratitude for our life and our existence, while acknowledging that we are all equal is a sign of humility. The sun shines on us all equally, and no one is better or less than others.Says the crew selected from thousands of applicants.
God I can't wait to see Orion shit itself mid flight. Not because I want to see these brave astronauts die, but because it would mean the death spell of DEI.
>>16870458Mars is in the charter. They could more easily be sure for not pursuing Mars
>>16870493mfw
I still can't believe Elon chose to obsess over AI data centers. The Mars dream is actually dead.
>>16869704>fart in your sleep>slowly smack in to a bulhead.
>>16870541I still cant believe he choose to obsess over internet. Mars dream is actually dead.
Is there any chance for Orion to leave the Earth-Moon system?
hi
Themis has been sat on the launch pad for 3 months. When are they gonna do something? Anything?
>>16870571HiWhat brings you here?
>>16870571spehs
https://x.com/tnsc_JAXA/status/2000125167541141707>H3 Rocket No. 8: 3 Days Until Launch. Today, we're bringing you footage of the fairing being attached to the H3 rocket at the Vehicle Assembly Building (VAB)! Michibiki Satellite No. 5 is equipped with JAXA-developed "ASNAV." This technology will make Japan's location-based services even more accurate and even more convenient!
https://x.com/Lokeshkr73/status/2000201874713227354>India's first privately developed orbital rocket, Vikram-1 is getting ready for flight! Vikram-1 will be soon integrated and is expected to launch in less than 2 months from now. Soon we will get images like these.
>>16870576Why risk it? If something breaks, it would require the formation of a committee to seek preliminary funding for a study, to decide if and when to either repair it, or build another. Then begins the selection process to distribute action items between members, with a feasibility study and environmental for each, and commitment no earlier than mid-2027.
>>16870571Bi
https://x.com/raz_liu/status/2000201746313064654>Walk through of the ZQ-3 landing site & debris field. They were prepare to reuse the stage in 6 months if a good recovery. Via 空天逐梦. The second ZQ-3 would launch within first half year of 2026 by the Chief manager of the manufacture factory.
https://x.com/DavidJDPhotos/status/2000237346802024925>Think calm thoughts for tonight. We’re gonna need it. Weather for the liftoff of Kuiper/Leo 4 is currently 20% with high winds forecast for the launch window. Liftoff is currently targeted for 3:49am tomorrow morning (December 15th.)
>>16868834that tasteful chrome reflection
>>16870591>shuttle and starship
>>16870591cant wait to see this in 2126 after spacex finally gets starship working
https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/2000243989036110108
>>16870608https://x.com/SchilkeScott/status/2000281124145172925>New date & time! December 16th 3:28 AM 95% favorable weather now.
>>16870712https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2000302654837371181>Testing is underway with no occupants in the car
>>16870739That's smart. No one in the Tesla need die. Only the other party to the collision.
>>16870743Always test it on disposable populations. Austin was a fair choice, although I can think of more challenging tests that that semi-guided location. Whats the payout for jumping in front of one? Also, are cars spaceflight?
>next generation computers and phones slated to come out next year are all reverting to circa 2015 levels of RAM>valve basically admitting they want to do Half Life 3, but are holding off because AI has fucked with hardware availabilityOh you’ve got to be kidding me. Either offboarding all this shit to Space fixes the problem, or we are truly in the shittiest timeline ever. Fuck everything.
>>16870712>>16870739Man, I watch some of those dudes who make a living doing reviews of the self driving where they just let skynet take the wheel and film it. I admit it’s gotten pretty good over the last year or two but it’s sooooo NOT fucking ready to be unleashed on the roads wholesale. People are definitely going to die and the pr fallout will be massive.
>>16870750>valve basically admitting they want to do Half Life 3, but are holding off because AI has fucked with hardware availabilityThere is zero evidence that Valve says so outside of a hack "game journo" pathetic attempt at ragebaiting.
ni hao
>>16870811That hinge is going to be wild to see in action
https://x.com/dfuji1/status/2000340888325853543>This morning, three lunar impact flashes appeared. The flashes occurred at 4:35:55, 4:58:20, and 5:33:08 on December 15, 2025. Simultaneous observations from Fuji and Hiratsuka confirmed that each flash was an emission from the same location on the lunar surface, and all were in the impact area of the Geminid meteor shower. The three detections are preliminary values from real-time motion detection, and there may be others that appeared as well.
>>16870811benefits of not being the trail blazeryou practically let the first guy eat the cost of figuring the general stuff then you can spend your own money building on top of it
wow /sfg/ really is dead huh?we had a good 8-year run.have a nice life anons
It's literally never been more over than at this point. Even worse, the derivative of over is worse than it's ever been before, since this time last year was the highest level of we're back ever recorded.
>>16870712>>16870739where's the spaceflight?
>>16870887FSD will dock future Starships.
>>16870868Elon fucked everything I hope he dies. Thread will be fucked for a bit until chinaman gets his shit up and running and then we will all be learning mandarin.
https://x.com/SpaceflightNow/status/2000389026512265269>SpaceX is hoping that the winds will cooperate enough tonight to launch their latest Falcon 9 rocket. Liftoff of the Starlink 6-82 mission is currently targeting 10:14 p.m. EST (0314 UTC).>SpaceX pushed back their launch time quite a bit. Teams are now targeting liftoff of the Starlink 6-82 mission at 11:49 p.m. EST (0449 UTC).https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-scO62MLNL0Currently T-2:15:00
https://x.com/raz_liu/status/2000374614221050354>According to the credible travel agency, The CZ-12A's launch date may be postponed. Currently may be postponed to the end of this week. Also some rumors say the rocket was rolled back to AB
I wish Jeff was actually cool and had a worthy second-rate company worth getting behind. It’s not even worth it to be contrarian and pretend to like current BO
>>16870561realistically, no
>>16869793no no those weren't built by SPECTRE, they were built by Drax Industries (who built the shuttles for NASA but needed to steal one back thus getting Bond involved)
>>16870907>who built the shuttles for NASA but needed to steal one backmaybe Ted should take notes
>>16870747>Also, are cars spaceflight?only a handful, although teslas do make the list
>>16870931I appreciate that the LRV is a car in Gran Turismo
I think we must all be fatigued by the insane launch rate of SpaceX and China. They are racing to put as much of their own junk in orbit as quickly as they can. Between them and a handful of other launches, we are on track for over forty launches this month to round out the year, a new record!
>>16870942It's amusing in a "we can't allow a space junk gap!" kind of wayOnce SpaceX IPOs though their launch rate will collapse
>>16870899https://x.com/SpaceflightNow/status/2000415343685075255>SpaceX made another slight adjustment to the launch time of the Starlink 6-82 mission. Liftoff of the Falcon 9 rocket is now targeting 12:08 a.m. EST (0508 UTC) with the rocket set to fly on a south-easterly trajectory.
>>16870909Terrible slop posterThe American side looks squat and uglyThe Chinese side looks elegant and inspiring
>>16870956domes are based
I just played the USS Darkstar HL1 mod.I love space games bros
>>16870472Good whores @ SpaceX!
I still think Venus is a better option
>>16870829crazy that people will be able to see the moon get bombed in real time during a war
starship mafia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blobitecture + mars
There might be almost 40 orbital launches this month. We're already up to 23.
Hullo is losing it.
>>16871017Nah, the default answer to datacenter in space is going to be it's cheaper on the ground The first engineer to solve the cooling problem will mint a trillion dollars in his lifetime though
>>16871019He's not talking about cooling. He's saying that batteries will always be cheaper than launch costs.
>>16871020Pound for pound, yesI mean, just imagine if someone tried to run a datacenter off renewables and pulled an OpenAI on the battery market, thoughAt some point they'll hit the breakeven point for space with their clueless moneyhatting
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2000331928109809757Tiny earth nuclear fission/fusion chads... The Sun's gigantic nuclear fusion won.
>>16871033boringIf the sun was a gigantic fission reaction, it might be interesting.
>>16871019Using heat pumps you can shrink the size of the radiator by raising the temperature gradient
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2000488247202591052>Starship probably grows by >20% long-term
>researched nuclear, plasma and other forms of propulsion since 1970s>still no finished productummm.. is space a big scam?
>>16871118Hasn't NERVA proven to be functional and feasible?
https://zemuso.neocities.org/shrines/spacecraft-gijinka/artistsThis is huge
>>16871033>no one told elotard about power density>that's why he thinks electric cars are the futuremakes sense
>>16871118>ummm.. is space a big scam?Earth is the real scam m8
>>16871132Musk doesnt think electric cars are the future, its already the present. You're 10 years too late for that argument.
>>16871019I wanna know what heat pump/pipe stuff they were playing with on the X-47b. Boeing got one thing going right in spehs.
>>16871126After we schooled the ussr there was no 'need' to develop it further but there were non-trivial engineering problems under-the-hood that weren't fleshed out. Same reason why thorium reactors never took off even though it was actively researched during that time.
>>16871132In order to satiate the needs of the US economy for the next 10 years, US needs 100 nuclear power plants alone. Thats not going to happen. Each nuclear power plant takes 20 years to be approved. The only path is solar.
>>16871136I wonder what additive manufactured inconel thinks of highly enriched uranium.
>>16871137Correct . There's currently no path (don't let Commonwealth Fusion fool you) for fusion to be cheaper than fission. Solar+storage is alraedy much cheaper than new nuclear and is getting cheaper by the day. It's hard to imagine a scenario where fusion could ever catch up to solar and storage technology. Sadly this paradigm benefits China the most.
>>16871134>>16871137I am begging you to understand power density, it is literally the only thing that matters in this world. The only viable use of diffuse solar is to densify it into synfuels, as nature already figured out. The giant free ambient battery of atmospheric O2 ensures nothing else can ever possibly compete with this.
>>16871143You're free to build nuclear power plants if you think you can do it better
>>16871144>free to build nuclear power plantsNo one can because of bureaucracy
>>16871146Density of 0
https://x.com/innospacecorp/status/2000436648493125689> D-2: Final Countdown for HANBIT-Nano. INNOSPACE has entered the final preparation phase for the SPACEWARD mission. HANBIT-Nano heads to the launch pad on Dec. 15 (BRT), followed by final checks ahead of liftoff
>>16871166Will it break the alacantara curse?
>>16871167It was made by Koreans wasn't it? It will probably be fine.
>>16871172Yeah but it's in that cursed land known as brazil so it's doomed.
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/2000611429968150879https://arstechnica.com/space/2025/12/oh-look-yet-another-starship-clone-has-popped-up-in-china/> Oh look, yet another Starship clone has popped up in China>Chinese companies are no longer hiding their intent to clone SpaceX. They’re advertising it.
>>16871179Temu SpaceX got that punk vibe
>>16870254>ULA shillsWhy shill? They have a long-term plan and they're sticking to it.
https://science.nasa.gov/blogs/maven/2025/12/15/nasa-continues-maven-spacecraft-recontact-efforts/>NASA Continues MAVEN Spacecraft Recontact Efforts>NASA’s MAVEN (Mars Atmosphere and Volatile EvolutioN) mission team, in partnership with the agency’s Deep Space Network, continues recovery activities after losing contact with the spacecraft on Dec. 6. To date, attempts to reestablish contact with the spacecraft have not been successful. >Although no spacecraft telemetry has been received since Dec. 4, the team recovered a brief fragment of tracking data from Dec. 6 as part of an ongoing radio science campaign. Analysis of that signal suggests that the MAVEN spacecraft was rotating in an unexpected manner when it emerged from behind Mars. Further, the frequency of the tracking signal suggests MAVEN’s orbit trajectory may have changed. The team continues to analyze tracking data to understand the most likely scenarios leading to the loss of signal. Efforts to reestablish contact with MAVEN also continue.>NASA is also working to mitigate the effect of the MAVEN anomaly on surface operations for NASA’s Perseverance and Curiosity rovers. Four orbiters at Mars, including MAVEN, relay communications to and from the surface to support rover operations. NASA’s Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter, Mars Odyssey, and ESA’s (European Space Agency’s) ExoMars Trace Gas Orbiter all remain operational. For the next two weeks of scheduled surface operations, NASA is arranging additional passes from the remaining orbiters, and the Perseverance and Curiosity teams have adjusted their daily planning activities to continue their science missions.
https://x.com/ApoStructura/status/2000587085518901261>15 days into December and already 22 rocket launches. At this pace December 2025 is headed for the most launches in a month ever, beating the previous record from... November 2025. This is what acceleration looks like.
https://x.com/ApoStructura/status/2000620908419977608>Rocket Launches by company/agency, 2025 YTD
>>16871188>Muh Helium-3Lay down the 70s sci-fi books and go actually work, Tory.
>>16871191What a bizarre and uninformative graph structure.
>>16871033Shut the fuck up your stupid boomer fucktard. The future is SMRs.
Is there an uglier rocket?
>>16871224Yeah probably
>>16871224Atlas-Able gives Ariane 4 a run for its money.
>>16871200grouped by country i guess? its somewhat unusual
>>16871224RetroGO
>>16871191rest-of-the-world bros...
>>16871224There's the single SRB Atlas V 411, looks very peculiar at liftoff.
>>16871188oh boy, I can't wait for tory bruno to be deboonked
https://x.com/RocketLab/status/2000644387802599424>Welcome to launch day. Again! Less than 48 hours after our last Electron mission was on the pad at LC-1, this time we're ready to liftoff for KAISTPR.Set to launch at 7:55 pm EST
>>16871191whats this type of chart called?
>>16871290Cancer embryo
>>16871290Frog Spawn Chart
https://x.com/blueorigin/status/2000662589320188182>Tested on Earth. Bound for the Moon. The BE-7 engine for our Blue Moon MK1 lunar lander just completed acceptance testing. Two 290-second tests exposed the engine to its full range of thrust and mixture ratios to verify engine performance. The engine is now off to Florida for integration with MK1.
>>16871306The only engines worth risking your life landing on the moon for are pressure-fed hypergolics
>>16871307t.pressure-fed hypergolic rocket motor
>>16871306>The engine is now off to Florida for integration with MK1tick tock muskrats...
https://x.com/SpaceflightNow/status/2000610405408780584>Following a one day weather-related slip, ULA is set to launch its Atlas V 551 rocket from pad 41 at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station early Tuesday morning, carrying a batch of 27 Amazon Leo satellites onboard.Here's the cloud cover prediction for 4AM tomorrow morning.
>>16871307yeh this cryo engine BS for lunar or mars landings is crazy. They're going to people stranded and killed with this stuff. I've long advocated for an architecture that uses cryo orbital transfer vehicles (high isp) and hypergol lander
>>16871191A Pie Chart by someone who's never seen a Pie Chart.
>>16871188Vulcan works. Starship doesn't.Hard truth Musksimps, but truth it is.
>>16871351>it just works>takes a year off because it need to get its SRBs redesigned>still can't fly regularly because Northrop can't produce boosters fast enough>it just works
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