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Adamanzane edition.

Previous Thread: >>16859058

This thread exists to ask questions regarding careers associated to STEM.
>Discussion on academia-based career progression
>Discussion on penetrating industry from academia
>Or anything in relation to STEM employment or development within STEM academia!
>If you have a question, before posting, read some of the older posts and ,if you can, try to answer their questions on your post. That way the thread isn't an endless log of unanswered questions.

Resources for protecting yourself from academic marxists:
>https://www.thefire.org/ (US)
>https://www.jccf.ca/ (Canada)

Information resource:
>https://sciencecareergeneral.neocities.org/
>*The Chad author is seeking additional input to diversify the content into containing all STEM fields. Said author regularly views these /scg/ threads.

No anons have answered your question? Perhaps try posting it here:
>https://academia.stackexchange.com/

An archive of some of the previous editions of /scg/:
http://warosu.org/sci/thread/15740454
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>>16871276
I wasn't talking about generic tips that would help people here, just the hoops you had to jump through in my irrelevant eastern euro shithole country 12 years ago to stand a chance of getting accepted into a western euro uni.
>>16871031
>Surely a physics phd goy can still own a house
what gave you that impression? the route most people with advanced STEM degrees took to secure a middle class lifestyle has been software engineering for the past 30 years, and that's now gone. for every tenure track position there are dozens of PhDs with zero employment prospects in their field.
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Anyone else feeling their executive function and attention span slipping? It is really interfering with my grad work. Any solutions? Meditation? Yoga? Digital minimalism?
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I passed my quals!
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>>16871466
stop gooning. don't use AI.
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>talk to postdoc from another group
>h index 2, 2 years after PhD
>nobody has the heart or decency to tell him that he won't have a career in research and should get out asap
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>>16871651
How to not end up. like him.
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>>16871661
do your PhD in a prestigious lab under a PI with a high H-index. people mostly cite highly cited articles
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>>16871651
>about to defend thesis
>H-index of 2
Who the fuck is gonna cite some randos in eastern europe? I think joining the army after this is the only path left for me.
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How it feels to be in hep-th postdoc application season after applying to 30+ positions
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>>16871451
>I wasn't talking about generic tips that would help people here, just the hoops you had to jump through in my irrelevant eastern euro shithole country 12 years ago to stand a chance of getting accepted into a western euro uni.
I think that too should have a place in the FAQ. Some parts of it is very specific already.
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Consulting plunging even deeper than it already has:
>McKinsey Plots Thousands of Job Cuts in Slowdown for Consulting Industry
https://archive.is/5s431
>The firm’s leadership has discussed with managers in non-client-facing departments the need to cut about 10% of headcount across their business, according to people with knowledge of the matter. That could amount to a few thousand job cuts that McKinsey would stagger over the next 18 to 24 months, the people said, asking not to be identified because the details are private.
>The company still plans to hire more consultants as it cuts back on support functions, the people said. McKinsey hasn’t designated a code name for the plan this time around. Its push to ax about 1,400 jobs in 2023 under the internal label Project Magnolia had unnerved many of its staff, one of the people said.
Ah yes, the classical growth through slaughter-strategy. that always worked out well.
>Just last month, McKinsey cut about 200 global tech jobs as it joins rivals in using artificial intelligence to automate some positions.

Avoid, avoid.
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should I get a b.s in mathematics
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>>16872032
>should I get a bsc
for what purpose? AI will kill us all in 2027 according to polymarket.
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>>16872035
i don't know what else to do and i like math
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>>16872039
get a loan and spend it all on hookers and blow. better waste of money than university.
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>>16872039
>and i like math
Chances are you don't know what math is yet. Go through a book on set theory first, and then reconsider if you like math or just computing. I see a lot of people fail math and physics programs because they don't even understand what they're getting into.
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>>16872099
i've taken several real math classes and i know what math is
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>>16872103
I don't believe you, but sure.
If you like it enough to commit to getting a useless degree, yes pursue a BS in Mathematics. However, I can't say I would recommend it to anyone who intends for their degree to lead to a related job. If you intend to go to a field where just having the degree is what matters (like many government jobs), not the actual content, than I'd encourage it. If you plan on getting a job in math, then you're a fool.
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>>16872125
what would you recommend then? and why do you say the last part?
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>>16872128
I'd recommend you grow up. Since you're clearly too impatient to wait for that, ask someone who already has--your professors.
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>>16872032
Only if you want to have major problems with getting a job. We have had several autobiographies on /scg/ over the years, about people with a maths degree struggling to get a job.

>>16872039
Do a DSP heavy EE degree and you can use maths skills and get a paying job.
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>>16872209
>EE
if he actually likes math engineering will be wildly disappointing.
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>>16872128
Stop listening to 4chan tards. Maths is a fine degree just keep your options open learn some applied maths even if you prefer pure maths. Learn at least some programming. That way you can find yout way in finance or programming. Try to do some internships which are practical that will allow you to pivot to these things.

The job market isn't great but a math degree isn't an arts degree.
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>>16872568
This guy works for the admissions office lol.

Writing is on the wall for "learn to code" unless you are generational talent of algorithmic mathematics AI will outpace your ability to write and integrate systems early in your career. Learn to code is what the head monk would be saying to the acolyte scribe as they watch a printing press get installed across the street; just accept the fact that midwit programming jobs (99% of them) are axed and if not axed will simply be re-distributed in the office cutting the actual job out.

For example in my research group we cut back 50% on intern hires and our electrical and other engineers simply picked up the workload on the side as prompt & audit isn't that time intensive if you aren't doing novel programming and simply integrating new features into an existing codebase.
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>>16872394
What would you do?
I did DSP programming having a background in Physics, had a lot of reading to do. It is possible but not the normal route in to DSP.
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>>16872568
>The job market isn't great but a math degree isn't an arts degree.
No, it is worse. A PhD in math is worse than a breakdancing PhD, careerwise.
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DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES GET A MATH DEGREE
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>>16872568
>Learn at least some programming. That way you can find yout way in finance or programming.
Did you just fall ouyt of a tree? Both the programming job and finance job markets are tanking, hard.
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>>16872698
People keep saying this but I don't see it.
I was in the automotive industry and it went to shit but most people I knew have gotten jobs. From my estimate 15% of them haven't gotten jobs yet but can't say I'm surprised because:
a) The company hired anyone that walked in before they tanked (or im underestimating this)
b) the ppl without jobs just didn't have the profile
c) They sucked at their job (cant verify for all of em but the ones I saw perform badly were really bad)
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>>16872621
engineers don't do math.
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>>16872937
OK. So who develops new DSP algorithms?
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>>16872951
ChatGPT mostly nowadays.



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