Mass Driver - editionprevious >>16910693
glass the earth, demigod war and all that
where do we see spaceflight in 2030? shit gets crazier every year.
Glory to the Chairman
>>16913745I don't care what redditors have to say on anything
I know it's been a while since we've last had this discussion, but I do think it's time we assemble a /sfg/ recommended media list./sfg/ Recommended media list. I have a list that was compiled by anons a few months ago. Anyone got anything to add or object to what is currently here?>MoviesThe Right StuffApollo 11Apollo 13The Martian 2001: A Space OdysseyMoon zero 2 - Featured on MST3K lmao.Ad Astra AlienEvent HorizonSolaris (1972)sunshine (not the second half)ContactInterstellarStarship troopers MoonDUNC Mission to MarsTotal Recall (1990) Dark StarOctober SkyTitan AETreasure PlanetSpace CowboysFirst men in the Moon>Tv Shows (animoo included)PlanetesCowboy BebopSpace BrothersMoonlight MileOrbital ChildrenFor All Mankind ExpanseRocket girls Irina: The Vampire Cosmonaut Crest of the Stars Earth to the Moon>Books (Fiction and Non-fiction)Rendezvous with Rama - Arthur C. ClarkeLarry Niven's Beowulf Shaeffer short stories.Downbelow Station C.J. CherryhThe ExpanseThe New Case for MarsThe Moon is a Harsh Mistress>VidyaKerbal Space ProgramChildren of a Dead EarthSpace Station 13/14Moonbase AlphaAurora 4xFreespace 2Deepspace Emporium>(Web)comicsLeaving the CradleFreefallOrbiter>PodcastsBBC: 13 Minutes Presents series
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>>16913759Add star trek, it’s kind of obvious
>>16913759The British recently released an Apollo 1 documentary in December. Don't know how good it is, though, as I haven't watched it yet. Maybe someone here has and could give their opinion on it?
>Apparently Maezawa originally bought the FH/Dragon flight because he wanted to propose to his girlfriend during the mission. After hearing about this his girlfriend broke up with him.>After the mission changed to Starship, Maezawa tried to set this up as some sort of dating thing where he gets a bunch of girls to fly with him and one of them will become his new girlfriend/fiancée. Fortunately someone talked him out of it.>There's a clause in Maezawa's contract with SpaceX that allows him to cancel the contract if the mission didn't happen by 2023. Maezawa didn't tell the crew about this when he made the crew selection in 2022. Tim said had he known about this he wouldn't have signed up for the mission since he know very well it would take a while for Starship to be capable of doing the mission.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6H8kqgPqTQlol wtf
>>16913764Wow MZ might be the dumbest japanese man next to whoever decided bombing pearl harbor was a good idea kek
>>16913764>Maezawa tried to set this up as some sort of dating thingMaybe Tim would have been the lucky girl.
>>16913764You see, she won’t say no. Because of the implication.
>>16913763I'd watch this if it was done like an episode of Air Crash Investigations
>>16913759wild wild space (documentary) is worth watching I would say
>>16913764>some sort of dating thing where he gets a bunch of girls to fly with him and one of them will become his new girlfriend/fiancéeI'd watch this reality tv show
>>16913762Yeah, but which series?>>16913763Added.>>16913772Added.
>>16913764you left out that some people that were chosen basically uprooted their lives, one designed some special camera with a company for space so MZ being this non-nonchalant about it was kind of insane and him expecting it to happen in a few years was pretty retarded
>>16913759what kind of books? like half of scifi has space stuff in it
>>16913764https://x.com/xdNiBoR/status/2023184108659114050
>>16913784cant wait for the berger article about it
>>16913784I kinda get the Irish woman’s complaint now. Although demanding a therapy bill being covered is peak foid behavior. If she instead just asked for reimbursement + artistry time and money lost I would be way more empathetic.Still, just a shitty situation all around. Tim probably walked out on top here because he was already planning to be at Starbase / near SX activity regardless
gigabay is smaller looking than i imagined
>>16913790telling the crew to prioritize the upcoming mission above all else but not actually giving a shit about it himself is very shittykind of insane behavior
>>16913793Yeah I agree
>>16913784>the guy with the username "yousuck" lacks empathyYou don't say.
>>16913792largest building ever built according to Elon.
>>16913759ahem, here we go:Movies:The Mars Underground - feature-length documentary starring our lord and savior Doctor Zubrin, I've first heard about him thanks to this. It's on youtube, btw.2010: The Year We Make Contact - sequel to 2001.Gravity (2013) - nespresso, what else.Life (2017) - typical 'horror' movie but set in an upgraded version of the ISS. the genre itself might make your eyes roll, but the scenery is quite cool.Passengers (2016) - same but with romance this time, I was more interested in the visuals and the interstellar ship itself.Armageddon - come on, it's a classicDeep Impact - another movie about an asteroid impact, I love them.Independence Day51 Degrees North - amateur movie, found footage format, about an asteroid impact yet again.Europa Report - similar to Life, but set on Europa.Series:Mars (2016 NatGeo series): it's uhm good enough I guess. Honorable mention to the NatGeo SpaceX documentary about Falcon Heavy. God-tier documentary, in fact the best SpaceX documentary ever imo, it gives you goosebumps.Space Race (2005 BBC docudrama): 10/10, I love it to the core and I think everyone here should watch it. It's got von Braun and Korolev as protagonists. It's just 4 episodes long though, here's the first one on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKDGLCwYvW0Gunbuster - space/mecha anime from the 80s, directed by Hideaki Anno (creator of Evangelion). It's an awesome space opera.Cosmos - both the original version with Sagan and the modern one with deGrasse Tyson.Futurama - :^)
>>16913759>>16913808and:Books:Non-fiction: Das Marsprojekt (1952, von Braun), The Case for Mars (Zubrin), Ignition!: An informal history of liquid rocket propellants (1972, John Clark)Fiction: Project Mars: A Technical Tale (von Braun, 'Elon' is mentioned here), Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (Douglas Adams, Elon's favorite), Artemis (Andy Weir, same guy who wrote The Martian), Cosmos, Pale Blue Dot (both by Sagan), The Martian Chronicles (Bradbury), The War of the Worlds (Wells), The Mars Trilogy (Robinson), The Last Question (Asimov)
>>169138082010: The Year We Make Contact has always been on my list but I've just never gotten around to it
>>16913809>Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (Douglas Adams, Elon's favorite),I thought Moon is a Harsh Mistress was Elon's favorite.
>>16913816I don't know, I thought it was common knowledge that Douglas Adams's book was his favorite of all time. Sure, 'The Moon is a Harsh Mistress' shows up among his personal list, but he's also gone out his way to mention The Hitchhiker's Guide every time he's got the chance.https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/23/why-hitchhikers-guide-author-is-elon-musks-favorite-philosopher.html
for me, it's The Stars My Destination
>>16913827This would have been good without the teleportation gimmick
>>16913827>mental illness is a super powerthe book
>>16913759>Ad AstraTerrible
>>16913764I worked at Spacex from 2019 to 2021 and one of my favorite things to do was search through the corporate Confluence archives (nearly everything that doesn't require a clearance is read-only accessible to all employees because they encourage interdisciplinary curiosity) Almost all of the work being done on dearMoon at that time was superficial. They had a small design team working on mockups of proposals for interiors (Including a shower, which is hilarious if you know anything about the Skylab shower boondoggle) and an even smaller team working on stuff like itineraries and meal plans based on Maezawa's favorite foods. The closest I ever saw to serious engineering work being done was a single study that basically said "The giant window isn't going to work and the best we can do is an array of porthole windows"
>>16913759We should add a documentary section after movies. I'd like to submit "It's Quieter in the Twilight" which is a fantastic documentary about the team of retirement-age engineers that maintain the Voyager missions. It's fantastic. Under books I would add the Mars trilogy by Kim Stanley Robinson.
>>16913839Ad Astra the anime was good. Yes he has it under movies, I had to check.
>>16913842>It's Quieter in the Twilightneat, I'll see if I can watch it later tonight
goodnight /sfg/
>>16913848see you tomorrow anon
>>16913850federal holiday so no work for me :)
>>16913840why was so little work done? did the guy not pay enough yet?
>>16913840you smell like someone who moved onto Vast
>>16913809>>16913808Added>>16913842Added and not a bad idea.>>16913843I liked the anime too. It really scratched that Sci-Fi itch I had at the time when I watched it. I just wish it did a bit more with some parts of the story. The wormhole plot line really opened the door for some horrific implications.>>16913777Books that are space flight related obviously. For instance, I'm not sure if Jack Vance's Dying earth series, Hyperion Cantos, or The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy would be a good fit for the list despite all three of those being excellent books.. However, I feel that Larry Niven's Ringworld, Robert Heinlein's The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, and 2001: A Space Odyssey directly deal with spaceflight, space exploration, space construction/megaprojects, and colonization efforts.We really need to go through and start picking some stuff out As well as lay some ground rules for what should go into the list.The list I have has notes next to several items that other anons have objected to being on the list. For instance.>MoviesDune/DUNC - Good Book/Movie, Not space flightStarship Troopers - Good Movie (Book is better), Not space flightAd Astra - Some anons don't like itThe Martian - Some anons don't like this movie.Total Recall (1990) - Not really space flight. Does have a mars colony though.>TV showsFor All Mankind - Some Anons don't like this show.Rocket girls - It's a cute girls doing cute things show. Some anons don't like that.Irina: The Vampire Cosmonaut - Waifu show. Some anons don't like that.Crest of the Stars - Good space opera, but not really spaceflight?
>>16913874>The Martian - Some anons don't like this movie.it's just anons bitching about the movie being reddit. it's one of the best depictions of near future hard scifi spaceflight we have in a movie.I'm fine with removing the other movies and I haven't seen any of those shows.
>>16913759I would add First Man and Galaxy Quest
>>16913874>The Martian - Some anons don't like this movie.sigh... I was about to post what this anon said >>16913875. Yes, many people complain about it here, yet we all gotta remember that Andy Weir started writing the book back IN 2009! Back then, almost nobody was aware of SpaceX's existence. Thus, it was quite understandable not to include them in the premise. In fact, and so that everyone's happy, consider this story as an alternate universe: a timeline where oldspace does a 180° somewhere in the early 2000s and is finally vindicated; what heritage contractors might realistically achieve if the government cared about space once more. A fanfiction where the Constellation program went right. And the movie came out juuust in time, in 2015, basically the last period where a film like this can coherently exist, before SpaceX goes mainstream a couple of years later and changes the entire paradigm.
>>16913759>Irina: The Vampire CosmonautBoring as shit. Very little rocket stuff with an annoying tsundere
>>16913874Ad Astra is anti-spaceflight
>>16913881Speaking of that, if there were an anti-spaceflight media list, Elysium (2013) would definitely have to be there. I hate that movie with the fire of a thousand suns. It merely helped to propagate the asinine idea that space is only for rich people, cue a myriad of idiots repeating this nonsense everywhere and their staple phrase 'omg it's just like in the movie elysium!!11!'. Cancer, that's what it is.
>>16913881Glad I wasn't the only one to get that impression from that movie. It seemed like the message was: "There's nothing to see out there, nothing worth exploring, so go back home to Earth and go back to being a stupid Earther with your stupid Earther family!"
Starship explodes. Changemymind.
>>16913888>David Willis
Ever wanted the fuck a rocket this badly
>>16913764What a loser
>>16913759>For All MankindWhat do we think of it? It gets lauded on space X because "muh space" (ironically as the most 'spaceflight' of all media)
>>16913784So a scammer chink got scammed by ol musky. Kinda based
>>16913899>For All Mankind Lesbian niggers in outer space
what ever happened to that nasa fusion propulsion system? I recall being surprised that they were actually going forward with it or something to that effect seeing as how no one has yet to make fusion work
>>16913759Suggesting BBC's Space Race. Talks about von Braun vs Korolev
>>16913881100%The writer was so up his own ass that an 80 day trip to Neptune is treated like some near-impossible arduous journey that would strip the sanity from any person except Protagonist McMan. If we had ships that could reach Neptune in less than three months we'd already be disassembling Mercury to make a dyson swarm and building interstellar generation ships. The relative degree of development of the Moon, Mars, and elsewhere is also nonsensical.
>>16913899Most of if not all the shit that takes place on earth could have been cut aside from pic related A lot of the alt history has absolutely no impact whatsoever because they simply don't give a fuck about opening that can of wormsGiven that Star City got a spinoff we're about to see FULLY AUTOMATED GAY SPACE COMMUNISM in the very near futureIt's good, but you basically have to tear out ALL the human interest shit, yes, even Gordo seeing a psychologist in a time where mental health problems were a death sentenceBooks: I'd throw KSR's Aurora on the pile, because despite the doomerism about colonization (he is now remarkably pessimistic we'll ever get a working biosphere off of earth) it handles the kind of long term thinking you need for projects like those
>>16913759https://apolloinrealtime.org/Apollo in Realtime lets you follow:>All mission control film footage>All on-board television and film footage>302 hours of space-to-ground audio>All on-board recorder audio>3,600+ photographs>35,800 searchable utterances>Landing area reconstruction using Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter data
>no starship launches for months so sorry for lack of spehs
>>16913912>we're even importing our SPEHS from china
>>16913764I want to hear more of his story seeing MZ Soyuz launch and getting within 0.75 miles of the pad. Tim claims they turned around and drove past the rocket again at T-12M to the proper site.Please make a full video. I want to animate it.
another falcon 9 starlink launch coming up
>>16913908Shit I have stuff in my fridge older than 80 days
they're moving the booster stand yo
Ad Astra isn't anti-spaceflight because it's not about spaceflight. Yes, it turns out that space is a pointless place in the movie, but that's only in service of the father-son relationship which is what the film is actually about.
>15min til Falcon 9>/sfg/:*crickets*It's sad knowing that I'm the last spaceflight fan left here.
>>16913924>Falcon 9Oh my god, who the hell cares
>>16913924gralcon 9 isn't worth my time, pal
here let me get it outta the way:>rest of the world combined: 1.5
>>16913924Bro I'm busy watching From the Earth to the Moon
>>16913932GOAT opening theme on that one
they landed btw
>>16913924Clear status?
Still waiting for the day we get Halo-style suits instead of those silly packs on the back.
>>16913952Where else are you gonna carry all your shit except in a pack?
>>16913952Mechanical counterpressure suit > all of these>but anon they don't actually workI don't care
>>16913759>Anyone got anything to addGundam. The anime directly deals on a high level with the topic of Mankind's future in space as well as the change of values and new ideologies that space colonization will inevitably bring. Also space habitats, politics and newtypes as a metaphor for faustian spirit.I've only watched 0079 and zeta btw
>>16913759If you like "inventory management games'", I recommend >OstranautsYou might have heard of NeoScavenger, it's from the same guyYou're an illegal bum on a Nigerian space station on Ganymede and make a living flipping whatever you find on derelicts for cash>Deep Space Emporiumbasically "Papers, Please" located on Space Station 13kind of the same vibe as Ostranauts, but the other way around - you are a vendor buying trash from scavs and reselling to localsboth are early access, but I don't think they will get significantly different at this point
>>16914026>NeoScavengerI loved that game, it had this very lovely melancholic apocalyptic feel to it that few games get right. Didn't even know the dev made another game, I will definitely have to check it out.
>>16913759>GamesPrey (2017) is a gem, it takes place on a station around the moon>AnimeLegend of the Galactic Heroes
>>16913753>furfaggotry in muh /sfg/Yiff on Venus
>>16913759>Mission to MarsThis one Is trash
>>16913764>he wanted to propose to his girlfriend during the mission. After hearing about this his girlfriend broke up with him.You gotta be fucking kidding me
>>16914071You didn't know?
>>16913759>DUNCfantasy. just, no.>VidyaSystem Shock, takes place on a space station run by a rogue(?) AIElite, the original, 3d space combat in a gigantic procedurally generated universe, commerce, piracy, aliens...
>>16913897Get in line.>>16913892I always get him confused with the Shortpacked/Dumbing of Age guy.
why is the next starship flight taking so long bros.... is elon cooked as the zoomers like to say? also I just failed a captcha I was certain I got right. did they readd the % fail chance for funsies
>>16914134There's no launchpad
>>16913881Ad Astra is impressive in that it manages to be against both science AND religion. Literally just nihilist propaganda with a massive Hollywood budget.
>>16914134we'll have 25 launches next year
>>16914134a stockpiled v2 ship blew up which also blew up the test site that was needed for v3 and then the first v3 booster also blew up and if those things didn't happen the gap between flights might have been 2-3 months instead of the 5-6 months that its going to be now if things went betterIn June 2025 Starship 36, which was one of the last Starship V2s blew up at Masseys test site due to a defective COPV, this demolished large portions of the test site as well, which meant launch tower 1 had to be jerry rigged for static fireshowever 2 launches of V2 starship still happened after that (August and October), but losing one of the remaining v2 ships meant there was a gap until v3 ships and boosters were readynot only that, the demolition of Masseys also probably slowed down the testing of V3 ships and boosters, it had to be fixed before testing could be done and that took like 6 months then when the first V3 booster was tested, another COPV blew up which destroyed that booster but fortunately the test site wasn't damaged this timeall this time in the background tower/pad 2 were being worked on but who knows if the jerry rigging of pad 1 after masseys explosion and then having to also fix masseys itself slowed down pad 2 (and its not like pad 2 could be used before masseys was first fixed to test the V3s)if Ship 36 had not blow up, there would probably have been another launch in November or December with a V2 stack, no work would have been needed to do to jerry rig pad 1, less work would have been needed for masseys (though the systems there would have to be modified for v3 anyway so in some sense this was lucky timing) and then if the first v3 booster didn't blow up, perhaps work on pad 2 could have been expedited (a launch in February instead of March maybe?)tl:dr COPVs kept blowing up
>lunar gravity is too lownot my problem
>>16914157They started pad 1 demolition after the last V2 launch, even if that booster didn't explode nothing would have changed because they are still not done with 2nd pad.
>>16914138Is it actually nihilist or is it just existentialist
>>16913759Okay ragebaiter here I goYou should include outer wilds obviously
>>16914159pad 2 taking a certain amount of time is not set in stone, it might have been faster
>>16914158that radius would need the encircle the moon itself
>>16914160very rude of you to pretend he would know the difference
>>16914163Very unlikely.
Could they launch starship from Florida, but catch second stage in boca?
>>16913810It's good (both the film and the book), it's more grounded than 2001 but still has some pretty crazy shit happen.>>16913874>Irina: The Vampire Cosmonaut - Waifu show. Some anons don't like that.Yeah I can get people might not like the waifu anime aspects, but as far as I know it's actually a pretty good representation of the early space flight program. The book version seems pretty good as well, but I've only read the first one.>For All MankindI do like this, but the middle part of season 2 is absolute trash. Also it can be a bit popsci.
>>16914166if the same people worked on jerry rigging and the extensive masseys repairs, then that is time the could not have worked on pad 2also if pad 2 wasn't the limiting factor (i.e. if masseys was isntead) then that would also mean priorization would be differentthe bigger thing here for the perception of the next flight taking so long is the removal of one flight from the end of last year though even if pad 2 took an identical amount of time
>>16914164No. Why would you even think that? The circumference is only 1.5km and it's only going 172km/hr at the edge. This gives a centripetal acceleration of 9.67m/s2 or .985g, which when added to the moon's gravity gives a full 1g at about the 80 degree angle shown. This is the minimum size before people start experiencing motion sickness
>>16914173That yellow rod in the middle better be a railgun.
>>16914169of course
>we still don't know why exactly Crew 11 had to return early>we still don't have official confirmation about what happened to the memesat>Vast has delayed Haven and is just gonna send a private mission to the ISS insteadThis is why loving spaceflight is suffering sometimes.
>>16913759I liked this one
>>16914177>we still don't know why exactly Crew 11 had to return earlyBRC (big russian cock) mishap
>>16913874>For All Mankind - Some Anons don't like this show.the first season was really good and so was the second really, its that with each proceeding series the amount of woke garbage being shoehorned into it increased. if you can just filter that crap out or laugh at it the series is really quite good. even series 3 has its merits. season 4 has nothing of value and i suspect 5 will be the same though i'll end up watching it anyway
>>16914183The rich guy doing the asteroid heist was pretty good in season 4.Season 5 is meant to be about the mars colony trying to gain independence or something like that right?
>>16914159>the last V2 launch
>>16914157>Masseys also probably slowed down the testing of V3 ships and boosters, it had to be fixed before testingMasseys was configured for v2 and not rebuilt to that spec but was rebuilt to v3 as already planned. No v3 delay caused by that.
>>16914184>The rich guy doing the asteroid heist was pretty good in season 4.yeah ok that little sub plot was alright you're right. it just felt like the entire season was about a socialist union protest against the ebil corporations without including even a bit of space flight etc.not sure about S5. as usually the timeline will probably skip 10 years ahead so who knows what they might have had happen in the meantime.
>>16914134The recent 4chan hack proved the captcha will fail at a certain rate even on correct answers.
>>16914177fwiw I have a buddy at JSC who works on commcrew and he doesn't know either
>>16914197It would be leaked if every joe knew, even russian mission control probably isn’t privy to it
>>16914170>people might not like the waifu anime aspectsSuch people are homosexuals
>>16914180it was ok but I understand the somewhat low imbd scoreits pretty slow
>>16914183I dropped it after episode 1 in season 3, I guess that was the right decision as it just seems to get worse and worseless spaceflight, more lesbian black women
>>16914188yes, but did it take longer than planned due to getting demolished?the modifications might not have been as extensive without the explosion
>>16913840what shower boondoggle?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6veU66z2TQ>The Insane Engineering of Starlink V3
>>16914225What is the line between “real photograph” and “over-processed piece of shit,” the spirit of the law versus the letter of the law… some of these aren’t done in good faith
>>16914243it's just color enhancedhttps://www.jpl.nasa.gov/images/pia22948-jupiter-abyss/https://www.missionjuno.swri.edu/junocam/processing#AboutJunoCamImages
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2023329323156136216
>>16914240>50kW peak poweris that electrical or beam?
>>16914245we need to take the car keys from grandpa musk
>>16914233pretty much. you really have to want to follow the few good characters and be able to ignore all the woke bullshit. such a shame but i still really enjoy the first couple seasons and the mars landing
>>16914248>you really have to want to follow the few good characters and be able to ignore all the woke bullshitthis is the standard prerequisite to television generally
>>16914248There's nothing "woke" about 4AM. Just incels having panic attacks when there's a female or non white on screen.
>>16914255sadly true>>16914256go away faggot.
>>16914236No. Massays was already planned for a v2 teardown and v3 rebuild. The v3 schedule was not affected by the accident.
>>16914257your brain is broken, kid.back to spaceflight now ok?
Over at Avix, a chase probe for I3 Atlas. Solar Oberth, 50 years and encounter out at the solar focus. Yeah -- that's not happening.
>>16914265you just couldn't help yourself from having to chime about incels etc. next time restrain your self because no one was looking to start a discussion about that crap.
>>16914270But anon, you're the one who started crying because something was "woke".
it'll be so nice when the mars colony doesn't have any women. women are woke.
>>16914276yes we were discussing why we didn't want to watch a showyou came in and disagreed about something that two other people agreed with and had clear rapportyou can call it whatever the fuck you like, nobody cares
>>16914283Oh no! Did someone disagree with you? How unfortunate.
>>16914290>5" dobgrim
>>16914288you disingenious fucker >>16914276every post you make is a lie, misdirection or gaslightingyou came in, you started whiningshut the fuck up
>>16914239They spent millions designing a shower for skylab but only used it for one day because the water was freezing cold (can't steam up the spacecraft), it took two hours to use because you had to suck up every single droplet of water, and worst of all if you got water on your face the surface tension would pull it into an un-wipeable sheet of water that made you feel like you were being waterborne.
>>16914304*waterboarded This is what I get for hungover toilet phoneposting
>>16914296>disingenuous fuckeryes he is
>>16914278for all mankind, what was supposed to be an sci-fi alternative history drama about a space race where the soviets landed on the moon first, became a soap operaI can tolerate women being on the show, but I'm not going to watch hours and hours of drama about the woman astronauts relationship problems with her jamaican wife and how she is oppressed and whatever else retarded shit they want to shove in thereIf I wanted to watch a soap opera, I would watch a soap opera
>>16914304those seems like manageable problems that a new shower design could address
>>16914311yeah. maybe a fully enclosed and sealed cubicle would work better. but that would need to be designed in from the start i guess.
>>16914311It can't be that hard
>>16914304This is why the russians nigrigged the shower into a banya on mir, it simply worked a lot better>>16914306I hate phone posting but I'm stuck in the wage cage at the moment.
https://x.com/StarshipGazer/status/2023429718822072383>The booster transport stand has returned to Starbase pad 2 overnight and all scaffolding has also been removed from pad 2.
>>16913759Missing First Man in the movies list
>>16914325Keep it off, it’s shit
>>16914327Kill yourself
>>16914321>already rusting
>>16914331It’s fucking awful and I usually like Ryan Gosling but not this time. You have shitty taste and should consider a lobotomy
>>16914245Broke>uploading your ai slop manifesto on some corporate network with stolen credentialsWoke>hacking the starlink command center to call elon a faggot in the sky
>>16914333It was a nice visual experience and if you think otherwise you are a lobotomized golem
https://goodluck-mmx.jp/en/Hello friendsThere's a couple days left to have a message included onboard JAXA's MMX sample-return mission to Phobos.So think of a nice encouraging message and send it out soon!
>>16914346my message is quite simpleahemCLEAR SEX CLEAR SEX CLEAR SEX CLEAR SEX CLEAR SEX CLEAR SEX CLEAR SEX
>>16914346this is the one with the German rover?
Vidya bros we're eating good!Spacefleet: Heat Death has finally dropped their demo.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NA1C8QXZMAhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3854580/Spacefleet_Heat_Death/
>>16914060You seem a little mad anon.
>>16914338agreed. i thought it was pretty great. how often do you get the X15, Project Gemini AND A11 all in one movie?
>>16913842It's too bad KSR trooned out into full blown socialist nonsense.
>>16914220Or you're older than 12
>>16913879We need another take on the "man marooned in space" genre that takes modern capabilities into account
>>16913904Space makes maintaining an ultrahard vacuum in a large volume easy to achieve, trivial in fact. This lets you minmax for better magnetic confinement because you don't have those opposing tradeoffs. Also a fusion propulsion system doesn't need to power itself, necessarily. You can use a 10 MW solar array to run a fusion engine that makes 1GW of hot plasma that just sharts off into space at ludicrous speed, thus getting you a much higher thrust and higher Isp system than you'd get from an equivalent 10 MW electric thruster. Fusion power reactors are much harder than making a device which can create a fusing plasma.
>>16914383>admitting you're a homokek
>>16913909KSR is very very silly in that he basically believes every ecosystem on Earth depends on exposure to and biotic exchange with the entire rest of the Earth to avoid bacteria evolving fast enough to kill everything, when in real life there are many ecosystems that have existed totally isolated from the rest of the world for thousands, even millions of years without issue (that sealed cave ecosystem with invertebrates all living off of chemosynthetic slime, lake Vostok biota, etc).Basically he believes humanity has no choice but to steward the planet Earth or else die out, because he prefers to believe that rather than accept that humans will probably never go extinct even if we completely rape this biosphere. It's a kind of religious idealism, gaia theory etc.
4 minutes until the 737 transatlantic flight takeoff guys!!
>>16913957Thigh packs and pauldrons
>>16913842yes please do! thanks for the tip on Quieter. im going to watch that tonight.my contribution, although not exactly documentary but more dramatic reenactment, would be the 'From the Earth to the Moon' series. i absolutely love the episode about building the LM. just beautifully done.
>>16914311>oil yourself and roll on regolith, then use a strigile to scrap the filth awayGreek and Roman athletes solved bathing a lot of time ago
>>16913759Yukinobu Hoshino's "2001 Nights" series
>>16914225TIL planets have buttholes
>>16914321pad 2 is ready??
>>16914408Pad 2 was born ready
>>16914408ready to blow up!
https://x.com/teslayoda/status/2023460541025616296>BREAKING: SpaceX is hiring Silicon Photonics Chip Design Engineers to design chips that move data using light (photons) instead of electrons, enabling much higher speeds, lower power consumption, and reduced heat.
>>16914400It's already on the list, you missed it because it doesn't have the 'From the' at the beginning.
>>16914414I say we move back to analytical engines like with mechanical gears
How does one attain this level of autism?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6veU66z2TQ>>16913759>kerbal space programWhich version / edition?
>>16913766>Wow MZ might be the dumbest japaneseSmart enough to negotiate a term which allows him to cancel if the mission doesn't happen by 2023. I wonder if Musk back then though it would happen by 2023 or it really was all a big PR stunt?
>>16914415oh yeah ok. soz mate
>>16914408There are going to be shitloads of tests, chopstick tests too.
>>16913777I've heard that Stephen Baxter's NASA trilogy (Voyage/Titan/Moonseed) is pretty hard space SF. Might have inspired For All Mankind with a similar alternate history.
>>16914420is this AI? channel gives off AI vibes idk https://www.youtube.com/@NoiseInSpaceChannel/videos
>>16914432Your AI detection skills are way off? Have you tried watching the video?
>>16914433no why would I do that
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/2023495529641243128
>>16914443isnt it just a toy lander? it doesnt do anything? and its really small.
>>16914443'well over 50%' is awful
>>16914446either it lands or it doesn't
>>16914444At least someone is trying to get us back to the moon
>>16914449moon? lol I'm glad spacex is focused on mars
>>16914446Considering private company track record I wouldn't call it bad.
>>16914443i hope it lands perfectly actually
>>16914445It's 11,000 lbs heavier than the Apollo LEM, retard.
>>16914447Call it.
>>16914443please tell me blue origin is not actually going to land on the moon before spacex does it, wtf
>>16914443So now we are all but guaranteed that BO will beat SpaceX to the moon. LOL.
>>16914462They won’t. SpaceX is moving like lightning compared to the rest of the space industry. Moreover, Starship will end up doing the whole Moon mission.
>>16914462china might beat nasa to the moon but nobody is worried since nasa has the better long term strategy. blue is to china as spacex is to nasa.
>>16914407Venus has a fuckhuge double-eyed polar hurricane that tends to form. Yet no one from earth gives a shit to ever check it out aside from occasional ESA and JAXA missions that have taken a few photographs
>>16914455there's no way that stays upright after landing
https://x.com/CSI_Starbase/status/2023540169044050384
>>16914536Same guy who said Starbase would be on stand down for a year+ after the concrete first got a little scuffed btw
>>16914353>holding the soldering irons by the spicy bitsno Clear, wtf you doing?
>>16914363Nice that Children of a Dead Earth is getting a fan-sequal
>>16914455Tiny!
I am continually baffled by the absolute stupidity of this board who doesn't understand they worship a narcissistic personality disordered, literally mentally ill conman.Reminds me of those amerishart religiontards that continually fall for televangelist miracleblabber. The best part about those people, is that they have never even read the Bible, so the conman can take advantage of them in any which way he wants.Just likehos sfg never understood space, science, they believe marvel capeshit is real science.
Are the elon-glazing posts in the thread with us, anon?
>>16914536me when come
>>16914549/sfg/ is results based, chinese rockets get talked about here if they are successful
Stop stealing shitposts from the 'cord.
>>16914549>troon or gayboy mad that you have to GRIND to get 150 launches a year and manufacture 10k satellites
>>16914536uhhh... is it supposed to do that?
https://x.com/xdNiBoR/status/2023542348257652858
>>16914560we sure have come a long way from a deluge system is unnecessary
https://x.com/NASASpaceflight/status/2023540057316237631
>>16914561Yet another lie from Felon Husk
>>16914564delightfully counterintuitive
https://x.com/RoughRidersShow/status/2023541153044590654
This Anton dipshit is secretly anti-spaceflight.He's always cherrypicking negative papers to talk about, never positive ones.
>>16914574At what point does a space enthusiast have to admit that making launch cheap enough to make asteroid mining viable also makes just launching shit from earth that much cheaper
>>16914581Asteroid mining will always be cheaper than earth launch, once cis-lunar space is industrialized.
Mons Mouton will become the Moon's commercial capitalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwJp3PV4eNo
>>16914525its 50/50 but personally im not such a fan of the tower block style lunar lander design.
>>16914173why not just have an oneil cylinder around the moon if you're going to put that much effort into it?
>>16914585>mount sheep
>>16914585I thought that was a very strange Yorkshire AI voice, but it's actually a real person, I clicked on another vid and saw him.
>>16914589
>>16914588whats the point of having it around the moon instead of earth? getting to LEO is much easier
>>16914594what's the point of leaving earth when staying here is so much easier
>>16914549go away EDS patient. get help, take meds etc.
>>16914596>inb4 starlinkThat was obvious, anyone could have done it.
>>16914595earth is full of earthers
>>16914601Holding a mars passport does not make you Martian
>NASA is targeting Thursday, Feb. 19, as the tanking day for the second wet dress rehearsal ahead of the agency’s Artemis II test flight.>Over the weekend, teams replaced a filter in ground support equipment that was suspected of reducing the flow of liquid hydrogen during a Feb. 12 partial fueling test. The test provided enough data to allow engineers to plan toward a second wet dress rehearsal this week. Engineers have reconnected the line with the new filter and are reestablishing proper environmental conditions.>While NASA will not set a formal launch date until after a successful rehearsal and data reviews, the agency has been evaluating in recent weeks if the there are additional days that would be suitable for launch and found an extra opportunity the first week of March. However, managers have determined March 6 is the earliest opportunity for launch that allows for a second wet dress rehearsal, sufficient time for data review, and time to transition the launch pad, rocket, and spacecraft to launch operations.We are GO for wet dress.March 6 earliest launch date.https://www.nasa.gov/blogs/missions/2026/02/16/nasa-eyes-next-wet-dress-rehearsal-for-artemis-ii/
>>16914585this is where nasa wants to put a moon base? looks dangerous
>>16914611No it's just this autist speculating about a location for commercial operations. Later in the vid he proposes a nasa base nearer to the rim of Shackleton.It's not that dangerous. The Mons Mouton plateau is quite flat and well illuminated, and about 100km wide.
>>16914536>>16914560>>16914562>>16914567
>>16914638
>>16914640
>The U.S. Space Force has surpassed their FY26 recruiting goal in just 5 months. Chief Master Sgt. John Bentivegna told Congress the service is at 125% of goal, and aims to rapidly double its current force of ~10,000 Guardians, calling it a national security necessity.everyone wants in
>>16914468Oh. May we see Elon's moon lander, tankers and depots? Hardware, not AI pics.
>>16914648>moon lander>tankers >and depotsHere you go sport
>>16914443It's fucking called endurance? Are you shitting me? Fuck you Bezos
>>16914653>Starship can so land on the Moon!Yikes!
>>16914647what does the space force even do if they contract all the construction out?
>>16913919Amos Burton made this post
>>16914661Monitor the situation
>>16914661i think they'll be the main operator of golden dome
>yet even more "industrial wastewater" ejected all over the wetlands>oh and I guess more precious wildlife land is dedicated to starbaseHow much are the cunts like CSS seething right now?
>>16914670I'm cummingggggg
>>16914670>rocket yuriHNGGGGGG
The decline of the starshipers will be substantially noticeable in early February.
>>16914705It's mid-February.
>>16914710Source?
I peed my ass fuck
>>16914642What's the black smoke looking stuff?
Another towerWell this one is not getting built this year for sure.
>>16914640little guy stops and finally decides to go backI would have done that sooner desu
>>16914725diesel pumps at a guess
>>16914161>owls see something weird in the sky>immediately disassemble their homeworld to go thereThey're just like us.
>>16914670my goodness
3 weeks ago Elon Musk said 6 weeks,
>>16914786and in 1 week it will be the fabled two weeks
>>16914680Who's the other one supposed to be?
Looking at these yuri pics, the sudden remembrance of that one chink presenting his OC Starship-chan during a conference is keeping me awake. I can't find the video, so if someone knows what I'm talking about, please link it so I can watch it later. I cannot spend more time trying to find it, I need to sleep. Thanks.
I wonder how much water they will be using for a single launch.
>>16914830oh god, I remember thatit wasn't even good OC
>>16914830Iirc it was from the public comment portion of the pea in 21 or 22 over zoom.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mfig2ALiYM>Starship V3 Update: Booster 19 Breakthrough, Ship 39 Delay & Pad 2 Status | Starship Update
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEk79WkLMe0>SpaceX Tests Pad 2's Deluge System For The First Time!
>>16914353>hold them by the tips>touch them together
>>16914443I hoenstly think BO + SLS is the only hope the US has of beating China in moonrace 2.
>>16914830>>16914849I got this. I think it was a Mars Society conference or somthing. File data says 2022.
>>16913764Amazingly this is not even the first time an East Asian fella has tried this trick!
>>16914680>>16914681>>16914684/sfug/ hours
>>16913773Elimination is literal and via airlock.
>>16914880There was that Fram 2 guy. I wonder how that worked out for him.
>>16914225I see a lop ear bunny
>>16914890The bunny god demands a hop NOW.
>>16914598Nah man Thunderfoot debunked it years ago, it can't be done
>reusable rockets? That's retarded>strapping Falcon 9 to a rocket and calling that a super-heavy? That's retarded>putting thousands of satellites in orbit? That's retarded>space internet will never make money, that's retarded>catching a rocket with chopsticks? Retarded>...>well yeah anyone could have done it, but it's still a scamWe are now at lunar datacenters
>>16914727did they get approved for 3 towers or something?
>>16914647They could get a lot more recruits if they started making combat units."But there's no one to fight in space"Why do you think the US always brings foreigners into space? The Space Force will be responsible for bringing foreign military units into space and fighting them there. No, I don't want to hear about how it's impractical. That's coward talk.
>>16914888they have units that can be sent into a theater to jam enemy satellites
No American will stand on the surface of a non-earth body in my lifetime, this is something I have to come to terms with.
>>16914943not long to live eh?
>>16914308It always amuses me that people complain about For All Mankind being woke, but no-one ever complains about the weird plot about eds wife sleeping with her dead son's friend.
>>16914943what if they stand on a fat chick in space?
>>16914948true, i should have mentioned that. it was disgusting too.
>>16914947Just pattern recognition all three American interbody space crafts have less accomplishments than Vostok 1. It's been a litteral decade and nothing has happened. 0 progress times any number of years is still 0 progress.
>>16914948>no-one ever complains about the weird plot about eds wife sleeping with her dead son's friend.thats when I dropped it
>>16914955>It's been a litteral decade and nothing has happeneda literal decade huh? sounds bad if you want it to i guess. what if several different programs have been working towards these kinds of achievements (yes, slower than we might like) and may well be reaching that stage before too long?would that be so bad?
>>16914949still hopeless about even that. I mean... we've had the 2suit for decades, yet we still don't have any zero-G porn. It's ridiculous, it is the most profitable thing you could do in orbit.
>>16914959it was interesting how they used the character of the young guy she slept with (forget his name) with regards to the astronaut husband; he kept getting his son in trouble at school; admitted to being the reason his son was out on his bike when hit by the car and died; fucked his wife; caused the destruction of their mining base and the death of numerous crew.what a truly awful nasty character he was. looked just right for it too.
>>16914965I don't really remember all that, I dropped it after s3 episode 1 after it seemed clear some kind of cheating plot was going to happen with the young dude
>>16914961It would be a good thing if any or all American Space projects suddenly "locked in" and stopped being national embarrassments, yes. I see no reason to believe that would happen. Call me a pessimist if you want, I am just going where the evidence takes me.
>>16914968well, it was a pretty strange story arc for sure. im not sure what the whole idea was but it was very negative and unpleasant
>>16914969>national embarrassments,who can you say that though? spacex is leading the world in most things and BO is showing to be doing great as well. Artemis isn't great by any means, especially SLS, but the over all plan is a basically good way to create an efficient sustainable presence on the moon. its not been a 'get it done by the end of the decade' type national effort so its taking longer and perhaps suffering from more corruption and political correctness crap because of it, i dont know.the pessimism about all this stuff always seem a bit strange to me.
>>16914943artemis 3 is happening. is it happening before 2030? idk. I hope so. but it’s happening and it’s happening in my lifetime.
>>16914420KSP1 obviously, mods are personal preference
>>16914932>That's retardedstill true in every case
>>16914934Not sure, but it's second Florida one
>>16914994Don't count your chickens before they hatch.
>>16914977>spacex is leading the world in most thingsLike what? Destroying the most prototypes before having a functional rocket? Yeah they are definitely leading there
>>16914866it looks like he just copied some unrelated animu girl and rebranded it starship chan. very implessive
fuck you
>>16915061you people cant be real people. no way.
It is rumored that there will be a suborbital "qualification" flight test of a full-scale CZ-10A 1st stage next month, it will fly a representative flight profile like the test last week but will be caught at the end, then inspected to ensure success of the Maiden launches of the CZ-10B and CZ-10A later this year.
>>16914725water behind the tower's shadow
>>16915061Most launches with a roggetMost reuses of a boosterMost payload to orbitLargest satellite constellationLargest and most powerful roggetMost catches with chopsticksClosest to full reuseabilityHottest stream hosts
Most suborbital bananas (1)
>>16915072Musk did nothing of that, it was his engineers who did all the work.
/sfg/ just got disproved by Richard Feynman.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTTQmhvDqJI
>>16915081ARRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!111
>>16915082That's Peter Weyland not Feynman.
>>16915081Someone needs to stop all these engineers from committing scams
>>16914994Betting on SLS is insane
>>16915081>"you didn't build that!"
>>16915072>Biggest roggetIs that impressive anyone could build a bigger rocket if doesn't have to achieve orbit.
When's the next Starship explosion? When's the next BONG rip?
>>16915095not starship but
>>16915072>Largest and most powerful *non functional* rogget
>>16915096what vehicle is this for?
>>16915099it's for starship but they will be testing them separately from now on.
>>16915097The last one took those dummy Starlinks to space, so it's as functional as any other single use rocket
>>16915100looks like elon is abandoning the model of blowing a rocket up every 2 months
>>16915102The Starship is supposed to deliver PEOPLE to Mars. It can't deliver people to Space yet, Vostok 1 delivered people to space.
>>16915106There are very few functional rockets if the requirement is to take people to space
>>16915108True and...?
and fuck you
>>16915109It seems like a strange metric to measure functionality by
Unpopular opinion: Virtual reality space will be more exciting and interesting than real space.
>>16915111Elon claims Starship will take people to Mars he accepted a contract to take people to Luna with it.It's not a goal I set, it's a goal SpaceX set.
>>16914593
Starshit is better for mars than moon
>>16915113you might want to consider that you are suffering fro a mental illness
>>16915113you lost, tranny.
>>16915105Jeff's back-to-back victories have blackpilled him
>>16915113Well, by that metric I would consider SLS and New Glenn non-functional as well, even though they've successfully flown and in New Glenn's case landed. SLS might become functional next month once Artemis 2 happens, but New Glenn will remain non-functional until like 2029 as well, I suppose, even if it starts flying a bunch of Amazon satellites in the meantime. At the same time there are numerous other rockets that deliver stuff, but not people, so I must conclude that they're not actually functional rockets either
https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/2023781272221319229
>>16915125>Well, by that metric I would consider SLS and New Glenn non-functional as wellDid I not say all three American space programs are failures. If I didn't it's my bad. SLS and New Glenn are also both worse than Vostok 1.>At the same time there are numerous other rockets that deliver stuff, but not people, so I must conclude that they're not actually functional rockets eitherI mean are they claiming to be designed for that? Are they excepting contracts that require them to be able to do that in the near future.
>>16915129The Boring company repeatedly violated Nevada chemical saftey laws and chose to pay the fine instead of not crippling people. But banning Musk Companies isn't the solution, maybe we should make sure fines actually discourage illegal activities
>>16915131Well, let's say Starship is the largest rocket that can put some sort of stuff in space, otherwise it'll be one of these internet conversations where we just keep disagreeing back and forth and I think the Starship thing is what we were first talking about. Here's a cat in zero gravity
>>16915132like spacex violated enviromental laws by putting some fresh water into a swamp next to a sea which has frequent stormslmao
Let's see if /sfg/ can go beyond Earth. You get 1 km/s delta-v, will you use it or double it and give it to the next person?
>>16915072Starship program: Largest total launch mass, 70,000 tons, with smallest mass delivered to orbit: zero.
There's so much vaporware and outdated articlesReal talk, as of February 2026, what commercial space station is closest to actually being launched and most likely to actually end up existing?
>>169151382030 Vast spinning artificial gravity station, trust the plan
>>16915138Vast/Axiom/StarLab are the frontrunners, probably Vast first but it might be a shitshow. The other two are oldspace so nothing exciting but they get pork, although there were rumors Axiom's finances aren't so hot.I haven't heard anything out of Blue about theirs in a while, they keep taking on projects and not finishing old ones.
>>16915138axiom is probably too big to failvast has a chance of beating them or could end up foldingeverything else is vaporware that will not fly
>>16915135>Chemical safety laws are the same as environmental regulation lawsMusk defenders are so smart, sunce chemical seftey laws are silly lets put lead back into car gasoline!
>>16914974Eh, it's made by the people that made the nu Battlestar Galactica, they kind of have a habit of throwing in weird shit without really thinking about it.
>>16915133>Well, let's say Starship is the largest rocket that can put some sort of stuff in space,Sure. I just don't care 99.9% of satellites are useless to spaceflight.
>>16915138vast and axiom both have hardware but who knows when they'll launch. the vast delay caught me off guard with how fast they were moving beforehand. and axiom got $350m in funding the other day, but at the same time they lost an ISS mission to vast, which would've given axiom even more desperately needed money.
>>16915148>the vast delay caught me off guard with how fast they were moving beforehandsame here. I wonder what happened, did some testing fail and now they've had to go back to the drawing board?
>>16915145maybe they were just looking for any excuse to get the Vanstanten women in a sex story. she was really very pretty and hot.
>>16915136I don't feel like parting with it
>>16915152use it on a banana
>>16915148>>16915149They were acting like this nigga was ready to be slapped on a rocket
>>16915135No, not really:Workers have complained of chemical burns from the waste material generated by the tunneling process, and firefighters must decontaminate their equipment after conducting rescues from the project sites.
>>16915157looks good to me
>>16915158>Workers have complained of chemical burnsWorkers complain about everything
>>16915158That probably means that the working fluid they use in the drilling is alkaline.
>>16914941How does that work?
>>16915158wont be an issue on the moon and mars.
>>16915162that's their job!
>>16915171their job is to build the tunnel, not fuck shit up and bathe in the working fluid like retardsno wonder the boring company wants the people out of the tunnels
>>16914557>>16914596Stay sheep
>>16914670>>16914680Starship is futa?
>>16915190Where else would they store the propellant?
>The Red Planet>Isn't red>The Blue Marble>Is Blue
>>16915149Most likely the May launch date was never realistic in the first place and they eventually had to acknowledge that publicly. I think they're still ahead of Axiom for now.
>>16913980you should watch CCA as well, it's got things to say if you've watched 0079 and Zeta
>>16915196does it even matter? the hab/fab market is going to be huge, I can't imagine it getting monopolized anytime soon
>>16915195Why does no one ever bring this up, mars is orange not fucking red.
>>16915090
>>16915233Weird how in thhe early viking images they edited the colors to make the sand luminous red too.
>>16915233look up my dude. look at all the planets and tell me which one is the red one.>uhhh it’s orge thocan’t tell that without a telescope or a probe
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2023885103018230111
https://x.com/MsMelChen/status/2023877905919492372
>>16915254Who the fuck even enforces this? Why didn’t the CCCP just “claim” the Moon for landing lmfao
>>16915254i thought i said the other day that this is going to be the way forward. companies and countries will not give up orbital slots without a fight, even if it means they have to get violent.
>>16915252Why can't boring company actually make useful tunnels?
>>16915256it's not enforced, but if you just throw satellites into orbit everyone is going to have a bad time. Most likely this will force the international bodies to implement some kind of limit to claims or to do some kind of race to the finish where multiple parties can reserve collections of orbits and then race to fill them.
I’m hearing reports that Musk is filing excessive claims to “reserve” suborbit. Bezos has grounded New Shepard to focus on the Moon while Starshit can now continue in its natural habitat.
>>16914363Cool, I'll check it out. Any other upcoming games you guys are waiting for? I'm waiting for these to release.https://store.steampowered.com/app/1280190/Falling_Frontier/https://store.steampowered.com/app/3801750/Exile_2097_Space_Odyssey/
>>16915250Telescopes have been around for litteral centuries.
>>16915252>tunnels>floridaUmmmmmmm
>>16915302Just build them above-ground
>>16915252Meanwhile, Palantir just moved to FloridaGood times
>>16915260We need to wait for Tesla to invent the Cybertrain
The shitflinging between Chun Wang (of Fram2) and ASPT today was kinda funny. Losers on both sides ngl.
>>16915308Damn, what should we call this bold new concept
first we had marstardsnow we have moontards lmaomusktards unironically believe that their god leon is gonna have a "mass driver" that no human has even designed built on the fucking moon lmfao! how delusional are you people?pro tip, just because the moon is closer than mars doesn't mean you still don't have to get a fuck ton of bullshit up to it just to build anything, tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of metric tons of material that can't be fabricated on the fucking moon, all of it has to be moved there on rockets that have, which by the way is going to be a complete bullshit fantasy claim of 200t in saarshit's block 4 lmao, no saarshit isn't going to be carrying 200t to orbit lmfao! Even once you get there you have to refuel the rocket how many fucking times just to escape earth orbit and get to the moon? Imagine how many saarshit launches it would take just to get one single saarshit cargo to escape orbit and deliver that payload to the moon, it's a fucking fantasy, just like every other promise leon makes that never comes to fruition.
>>16915312Even if his complain was a bit pathetic (He compares it to the Astro Awards but the "Flame Trench Award" is a meme award) but he ain't wrong on that, Chinese spaceflight community IS basically post-apocalyptic since 2021.
>>16915315I wonder if he'll fly again. He has a few hundred milly left
>>16915314>It is impossible to build things on other bodiesI really hate people like this. Mental retards who agree with me on certain talking points and loudly announce those talking points.
>>16915129Why doesn't musk just pay for someone to take the trash out? These council members have addresses and families, correct? So to speak.
>>16915313Above ground tunnels?
>>16915129lmao, what contracts, what business
>>16915314Damn nigga you really typed all that out?Get a life.
> SLS just blew up and nobody posted anything here. /sfg/ è morto.
>>16915351They had a lot of fun with the "cooling is impossible in space" meme
>>16915133That cat is doing pretty well. He's not panicking too much when completely free-floating and stays pretty calm when his feet are in contact with the wall.
>>16915308The best part
slow day on /sfg/
>>16914459it will rud on the pad anon, don't worry>t.has $1000 bet on it not RUD'ing
>>16915138Un-announced Spacex station made of Starships
>>16915416a suborbital space station? cool
>>16915302People like to be retards about building tunnels in Florida because "muh water table" but tunnels below the water table are extremely common. Seattle literally has a two mile multi-level highway tunnel built substantially below the water line, through silt, and rubble less than 1000 feet from the sea, in a severe earthquake zone.
>>16913839not even near as terrible as gravity
this is some clickbait bullshit, right?
>>16915437Gravity is goofy as shit but at least it's not overwhelmingly pessimistic and has some semblance of internal consistency
>>16915441>overwhelmingly pessimisticto me this was one of the main appeals in ad astra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_y5QPpoi50
>>16915447Spaceflight is for optimism, anon
>>16915439>LIVEOf course it's bait
https://x.com/UnitreeRobotics/status/2024013134974034072Moon and Mars buildersChina will grow larger
Ad Astra is just Heart of Darkness in space, and it doesn't make a lot of sense without the Belgian Congo as a field of rapacious extractionism. It might have worked better to be set just on Mars, which would be a pit of commercial depravity and exploitation.
>>16915480Expanding on that, Space Kurtz's stronghold could be deep below the surface in a network of poorly mapped tunnels and caverns, leftovers from the early stages of colonization before the terraforming project began in earnest. This would account for the difficulty in reaching him.
>>16915476Do these things do anything other than waddle around
>>16915484What more do you need?
>>16915102>nonfunctional satellites into a nonfunctional orbit
>>16914943I will (I'm British)
When will LSST finally start?
>>16915138Unironically Gateway lmao
>>16915313Pipes. It can be called The Piping Company
>>16915548look at all those hopeful faces, if only they knew... (we can't afford Artemis)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JI1HWxGBgs
>>16914943In no more than ten years we'll have a base on the moon and probably on mars too (this one may need a few more years).The technology is already there, at this point it's more of a political decision.
>>16915579>at this point it's more of a political decision.100%. with a little more commitment it would be the fact already
>>16915439About the pic Musk has already stated that they aren't going to use the starship that way, and I have always wondered why.It seems perfect for the job. It could also be made three times larger by cutting internally and using the tanks area.
The IAU decided that there were too many random tiny ice balls for them to be planets, deciding that their inclusion would reduce the title of planet. They managed to write a new definition and in my opinion completely fuck it up, but the principle that the title of Planet should be special, and having 13 planets would be silly (should be 15, but the IAU doesn't use their own definitions Mercury isn't a planet by their current definition) Earth is clearly a diffrent level of existence compared to Makemake.Despite this, the category of Moon remains untouched. There are over 300 hundred moons for Juipiter and Saturn alone. This is far worse than the term Planet ever got, our moon is not even comparable to Himalia and it's silly that Himalia would be granted a title including moon.
>>16915584Seems like he changed his opinion.https://youtu.be/o2jfI67bblM?t=713
>>16915587cant they introduce classes of moons like with stars or something? a single term applied to that spectrum of sizes seems unhelpful
>>16915579>tech already thereNo way. We're not even confident in our ability to land on the lunar surface consistently and safely. Worse yet, the state of life support and zero boil off tech (which are the real bottlenecks for long-term moon and mars programs) is nowhere near capable enough.
>>16915615>the state of life supportyou heard about the ISS before right?
>>16915612That's so silly might as well invite astroids back into being planets with us only being separated by class. All stars are pretty similar things except Brown Dwarfs and Neutron stars. Earth isn't different from Vesta by degree. We are different by kind, and it's pretty clear. Non-moon natural Sattelites or pseudo-moons are far more fitting descriptors.
>>16915612You still want distinctions to be made on the basis of fundamental characteristics, so making a definition is difficult.
>>16915623>That's so silly might as well invite astroids back into being planets with us only being separated by classnot at all. they want to lump everything thing from Luna down to tiny rocks into the category of 'moon', but why not classify them based on some chosen characteristic so its possible to have some idea about what it i without having to look it up? Like you have a G class star but theres a number tacked on the end that tells you more info about it.
>>16915388Cats actually prefer zero gravity to 1G, but it takes a short time for them to get used to the freedom after being trapped in the gravity well. Once a cat gets used to zero gravity, it will gracefully nap in midair
>>16915629>not at allLuna would be a Planet or Dwarf Planet if it escaped our Orbit. Some "moons" are literally astroids that have been captured, and the universe being the size it is, captured planets should also exist.
>>16915630Cute, he looks just like my last.
>>16915630thats just a cat in a bathtub
>>16915667Your observational skills are impressive.You are wasted here, go work for nasa or something like that.
>>16915662>Luna would be a Planet or Dwarf Planet if it escaped our Orbit.great, only thats not the case so its handy to put it in a different category, unless you want to call everything a planet and THEN have to add a qualifying letter or number that means 'this is a planet orbiting another larger planet' or something.> Some "moons" are literally astroids that have been capturedright, so a signifier would be useful to make its size clear, if you want to base your system on size
>>16915190All rockets are.>N1-chan who's long but thin, can't get it up, and suffers from premature ejaculation
https://x.com/stoke_space/status/2024119531849805975
>ai data centers>photonic hardware>cyclotronspacex increasingly feels less like a launch company and more like a tech one. spacetech?
>>16915679>>16915190>>>/d/
>>16915315it is pretty hellish for Chinese spaceflight fans. They rarely announce launches in advance, and we often only find out via NOTAMs, commemorative stamps, or tourist package advertisements. And even then, we then only get the correct launch vehicle and payload if the mission is successful.
>>16915684The X stands for Exploration Technologies. Tesla is also actually a robot company, it's just that most of their robots have wheels
>>16915697does that imply that tesla should buyout boring company?
>>16915700Eventually all of those companies will merge under one company name, it will be like aparasolIt will just be called X, the everything corporation. Then they'll have subsidiaries like SpaceX, RoadX, UndergroundX (pirate radio station)
>>16915706Xland Yutani Corp
>>16915677The person I replied to said Himalia and Luna, being in the same category of "moon" isn't the same as an astroid and Earth being in the same category of "planet".I wasn't saying Luna should be a planet, I was showing how similar the two senerios were.
>>16915688There are wechat groups where most cnsfgfans hang out and correctly guess most launches and development, super classified programs aside.
Some anon mentioned a documentary called 'Its quieter in the twilight' a couple days ago and just wanted to say thanks, it was very well made and interesting.recommended
>>16915749secondedI watched it and it could be shorter, but it's well done
>>16915761i know what you mean. id have liked a bit more technical info on the voyagers too, but it was really very enjoyable just getting to know the people that have been helping the probes along all these years.
>>16915766when are they knocking the first tower down to replace it?
The situation in Iran is worsening. Looks like an attack is imminent. Of course in these operations, the Space Force will always go first.
>>16915771they aren't
>>16915761Also, i recall a good doc done by the BBC on the Voyager program. i think its on the torrents.i hear good things about this toohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M62kajY-ln0
>>16915777space force, "first to fight"
>>16915777>Looks like an attack is imminent.I've been hearing this for weeks, months, years really.
Is it true that KSA is going to be set in a fictional star system instead of Sol?
>>16915797why not have both?
>>16915799Yeah, that would be better, but like I heard the Sol system wouldn't be in.
>>16915804inb4 its paid dlc
>>16915777not spaceflight
>>16915805I wouldn't actually mind if that meant it was a very substantial increase in quality over RSS, it's the 2020s everything is free if you want it to be anyway.
>>16915766I expect another couple of iterations on the launch pad design.
Have you seen that new Japanese horror movie set in space, it's called Spacefright
>>16915575It's an OK overview I guess. I'm a bit worried about the presenter's posture, though.>>16915812damnit, Anon
https://x.com/blueorigin/status/2024169814697071052
>>16915817isnt this the same thing as what other companies are trying to do? guess its good that there is competition for lunar tugs, but it feels like there will only be one or two winners.
>>16915819only SpaceX and BO are credible companies tho
>>16915824there's mueller's impulse space. they have a cislunar-capable tug scheduled to launch to geo this year. they dont really have any customers though aside from demos for the military. maybe the tug business is too early.
One year short of a quarter of a century of revolutionary for space flight SpaceX, still several dwarf planets and outer splar system rounded moons that haven't been visted by a substantial probe.
>>16915828Save me Zephram Cochrane, if you can hear me Mr. Cochrane save us
>>16915795ZionDon didn't send 2 carriers, with a third underway, just to bluff.
>>16915830Didn't we already do that last year when the houthis closed off those straits?
>>16915797As far as I understand it they're using the normal solar system for testing, then they're gonna make their own when they're ready. That always could change though. I'd love something like KSRSS (Kerbal Scale Real Solar System) in KSA.
>>16915766I thought musk said they didn't need a trench
>>16915856elon lied, rockets died
>>16915857And innocent plovers
>>16915856The reality hit him, if they didn't need rapid reuse then maybe water plate would have been enough.
>>16915858No plover is innocent.
>>16915856best part is no part.. at least until you find out why you need that part
>>16915749I watched it last night, too. Sorry, but I just didn't care for these people all that much. Half way through, right when the COVID stuff happened, I just started to skim through it until it was over.
>>16915865i like seeing how these probes that have been going for so long and are so far away have become so entwined in these peoples lives, but fair enough.
