Obscure JAXA physics experiment editionPrevious >>16958743
>>16961018Almost missdd bluebigga but they ho ho holdin
Latvia to sign Artemis Accords tomorrow
NU GRENNI'll bet 200 monopoly-moneys that the unspecified hold at time L 3:57, and the whiffed launch poll, were both related to the eventual 2nd stage engine failure.
Pretty cozy launch
I don't understand rocket tribalism. Why are you picking a billionaire to suck off? Just be glad that spaceflight is finally advancing
>>16961545I am. But EDS tards of both varieties always try to bait me.
>>16961548This reminds me of 360 vs ps3 autism. In the end it didn't really matter
>>16961562that one is also golden, i remember watching this in my teens to i never had to rediscover it as much.it makes me sad that there's not as many kino speculative CGI space documentaries today, the world could use more of those.
>>16961545so am i, i hope spacex and blue origin both succeed. fuck oldspace though, they had their chance. i mean, the launches that they can still get out with SLS, great, thumbs up, but then cancel it because better alternatives are coming and it is not a rocket fit for mission purpose.
>*inserts your satellite into a 164km perigee orbit*>nothin personnel kid
>>16961550I still play my 360, it won in the end.HD-DVD didn't though, lmao.
>>16961577i still play my ps3, it won in the end.
>>16961545This is where I'm at. Fuck billionaires but I'm excited to see space travel start to take off again.
>>16961571>ywn make Earth sweat while you and your space roommates laugh at their panic>>16961577Impossible, I was told it had no gaems.
mark 1 will fly on starship
>>16961562>spacecraft is called the von braunbased, this would have been considered a controversial artistic decision had this been made in currentyear™
>>16961577it didn't win anything. If you had fun and have good memories then YOU won
>>16961589:DOne of these days I'll get a hard drive housing for it and try out some original Xbox games.
>>16961588If only the focus wasn't out
2 weeks?
>>16961545>>16961579back to plebbit
This one stings. Yoweee.
"45 blue birds by EOY"ok lol
>>16961545i just love rockets
so this blue bird was a special one for government contract bait? oop
>SpaceX: 600>Rest of the world combined: 2damn, they are catching up
>>169616053, right? Chinese got one?
>>16961511It's already forming.I'm not entirely convinced the shorter cohort has much to do with market dynamics as it is just a rejection of Muskian development and execution.The gist is companies shouldn't be rewarded by quasi-enforcement of 12 hour work daysIt's why there is such an obsession with "doing things right" and "not moving so fast". The market shouldn't value speed and the obsession with missed deadlines and targets is an attempt to indict such execution methods.These people would rather have companies fail if it meant employees worked at a slow pace.
https://x.com/RedPillRabbit/status/2045931464974307358
>>16961605>SpaceX: 600>Rest of the world combined: 6,000FIXED. The Falcon series is 9% of all successful launches ever, which is the impressive part. Trying to impress people works better if you use the correct parameters.
>>16961611Good. Now remove the the chinks, as they are all CCP spies.
>>16961616booster landings retard, not launches
>>16961619the pre-landing days is a small chunk of total f9 family launches now
AST has confirmed altitude is too low and they will deorbit the satellite>>16961611I highly doubt it lol
>>16961619>calling me a retard because you didn't qualify your stupid postESL detected.
>>16961614what the fuck is wrong with these people
>>16961623pathetic brainwashed bagholders. same with quantum computer scam stocks
>>16961606nope
>>16961622what do you think the number 2 referred to?
mr. suborbital
>>16961616we were talking about re-use, my mentally ill, ragebaiting zoomer friend.
>>16961614>my fellow [insert company here] shareholdersif you have to find comradery with your fellow stock gamblers you are seriously desperate and/or retarded, which is most stock traders nowadays.
>>16961622no, he's calling you a retard because you can't read.>rest of the world combined: 2now the original post this was referring to was spacex celebrating their 600th booster landing.you had everything you needed to interpret that correctly, so either you're sleep deprived or you're a dumbass and you deserve bulli.
>>16961599figured i'd post it in the new thread, magnet link for parts 1 and 2, hope it's not detected as spam.part 1:magnet:?xt=urn:btih:cfadc9bc0fc62bdcd598b76ed675991387fdf07b&dn=BB%20Odyssey%20Voyage%20To%20The%20Planets%20Series%201%201of2%201080p%20x264&tr=http%3A%2F%2Fp4p.arenabg.com%3A1337%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2F47.ip-51-68-199.eu%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2F9.rarbg.me%3A2780%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2F9.rarbg.to%3A2710%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2F9.rarbg.to%3A2730%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2F9.rarbg.to%3A2920%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.stealth.si%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopentracker.i2p.rocks%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.cyberia.is%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.dler.org%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.internetwarriors.net%3A1337%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.opentrackr.org%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.pirateparty.gr%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.tiny-vps.com%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.torrent.eu.org%3A451%2Fannounce
part 2:magnet:?xt=urn:btih:820e7e61a30e29683c82b9bef51eaf8de0185a26&dn=BB%20Odyssey%20Voyage%20To%20The%20Planets%20Series%201%202of2%201080p%20x264&tr=http%3A%2F%2Fp4p.arenabg.com%3A1337%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2F47.ip-51-68-199.eu%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2F9.rarbg.me%3A2780%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2F9.rarbg.to%3A2710%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2F9.rarbg.to%3A2730%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2F9.rarbg.to%3A2920%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.stealth.si%3A80%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopentracker.i2p.rocks%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.cyberia.is%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.dler.org%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.internetwarriors.net%3A1337%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.opentrackr.org%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.pirateparty.gr%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.tiny-vps.com%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.torrent.eu.org%3A451%2Fannounce
>>16961654>>16961652How's the quality? I have a rip I got years ago but it's not that great, I remember it being hard to track this down back when I tried.
>>16961018>Thread made before image limit was reached and before it reached page 10This thread is illegal.
>>16961656i tried a bunch of different avenues and yeah, this one isn't amazing quality either, it's the best i've found so far tho, it also actually had seeders, there's a lot of dead ones.
>>16961658>muh lawsfuck off, earther
>>16961659where did you find these torrents anon? Have been looking for a new site for sometime now
>>16961652>>16961654it's weird that these remain so hard to find, so far the only other one i've found that's decent quality is on archive.org https://archive.org/details/space.-odyssey-voyage.to.the.-planets.-2of-2/Space.Odyssey-Voyage.to.the.Planets.1of2.avibut it's still somewhat lower quality than the one in that mirror link
>>16961667literally just got it from one of these: https://piratebayproxy.info/your ISP may block this site or the mirror links that are on it if you're not using a VPN.
>>16961364>Look at our pretty landing (that was useless since the second stage shat itself)
>>16961672not a good day for underpowered hydromeme second stages.https://youtu.be/enQ_IXtfm9I?t=4355take a look at this, if you pay attention right after stage sep, you'll see the second stage do a huge pitch up maneuver after it's clear of the first stage, that's a lotta cosine losses right there, just fighting gravity. the SLS core stage at least has the advantage that it's boosters give it a massive kick right at the start, lofting it and giving it more time to burn horizontal, but new glenn is also still slow off the pad, and 1st stage re-use boosters can't deliver a massive amount of the total velocity because they have to deal with re-entry and save fuel for the landing, the second stage has to do all the work and it only has two piddly little hydromeme powered BE-3U vaccuum engines to work with, the same engine that powers new sheperd, they genuinely would be better off just strapping a BE-4 to the second stage because it would at least alleviate the gravity losses somewhat.
>>16961670Did it ever get a DVD release or anything? Surely the BBC still has it somewhere, it wouldn't cost anything to toss it onto streaming at least.
>>16961675it did, i actually watched it on dvd all the time as a kid, that's what i remember it from, it even had one of those cool 2000's era custom interactive dvd menu's made just for it.idk why they never just released it somewhere, a really cool piece of media and also a time capsule of the time it was made in (2004 is now 22 years ago holy shit).maybe it just doesn't align with the BBC's modern mission statement of hating human accomplishment and innovation and demanding white people lash themselves with a cat of nine tails for existing.
>>16961674The trajectory for Ariane 6 is also ridiculous, it looks like everyone first orbital launch on KSP
>>16961679everyone's
>>16961679>firsti still have a foolheaded tendency to put small, high ISP low thrust engines on my second stage lol.ultimately i never get punished for it because i also have a massive fuel depot station i built in LKO.i've dubbed it the: Richard C. Shelby Memorial Depot>b-but shelby isn't dead yethe will be eventually, and when he does, we will name the first IRL orbital depot after him, so that every time some young curious chap asks you:>"mister, why didn't they use orbital fuel depots earlier?"you have an easy excuse to explain how richard C. shelby held up human progress with his politicking, forever tarnishing his legacy.
>>16961674jesus they really need to design a better upper stage engine.
>>16961674BE3U is not the New Shepard engine.
>>16961597>t. has spent 200 hours arguing about which billionaire is better
>>16961685it's a very similar engine, anon, the BE3U is derived from the new shepard BE3PM engine, the biggest difference is the BE3U uses an open expander cycle engine, and has the ability to relight, as well as larger vaccuum nozzles.it's got the same dimensions with slightly higher thrust and ISP than the engine it's derived from. as i said, they should have gone clean slate on the second stage engine or used another BE-4, instead they just slapped two BE-3's on it and hoped for the best. it's obvious that new glenn's potential delta-v is suffering immensely from the enormous gravity losses on ascent.
>>16961687The BE-3Us give it a reasonably high thrust to weight ratio somewhere in the ballpark of 0.8. The gravity losses look like they're due to the first stage flying lower and flatter than is optimal, and I can't think of any reason to do that except to limit the reentry loads on the booster.
>>16961674BE-3U is at 800-900kN, and there are two of them, it's not nearly as bad as the various RL-10 upper stages.
>>16961690Adding on to that, an Ariane 6's engine is about .48, while ICPS is a whopping 0.37.
you guys can check it for yourself, but i just compared the burn time on landing between new glenn and a recent falcon 9 launch.new glenn: 34-35 secondsfalcon 9: 21-22 secondsthat's a big difference, blorgin is gonna have to shave those numbers off if they want to be efficient>but they don't HAVE to do a suicide burn!doesn't mean it wouldn't be hugely helpful to their mass fractions, they need to stop being pussies with that massive pad avoidance maneuver before landing and just come down on the damn ship from now on.
>>16961693Didn't it vent propellant after it landed? Seems like they have fuel to spare
>wake up>another New Glenn failure
>>16961699>cohenWTF I love blue origin now???
Blue has been "currently assessing" for ten hours, still no press release.
>>16961699Based. Fuck investors
>>16961699seeing stocktards get BTFO is always satisfying
i just woke up. did jeff bezos win? is elon musk seething?
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2046006033890566491https://x.com/SpaceX/status/2045921820810080731
>>16961576experimental lithobraking protocol
guys look
>>16961719Hopper? Is that you?
>>16961018>picwhat's this? something about spinning atoms and electron orbitals?
>>16961723pic is from google translate
>>16961723chatgpt:The cartoon explains a scientific result from the Japanese X-ray astronomy satellite XRISM (X-Ray Imaging and Spectroscopy Mission).Content summary:* It depicts a binary system in the constellation Centaurus (Centaurus X-3): a neutron star orbiting a blue supergiant star.* Gas from the star falls onto the neutron star and emits X-rays, including iron spectral lines.* Because the system is rotating, the observed X-ray energies should shift periodically due to the Doppler effect.* However, the measured “center” of the energy did not match the expected value.Explanation given:* The discrepancy is due to highly ionized iron atoms near the neutron star.* As electrons are stripped away (about five missing), the remaining electrons shift to lower (inner) orbitals.* This changes the energy of the emitted X-ray spectral lines.* The effect is governed by quantum mechanics and atomic structure under extreme conditions.Conclusion:* XRISM’s high-resolution spectrometer (“Resolve”) was precise enough to detect this shift.* From distant X-ray observations, scientists can infer the ionization state of atoms in extreme astrophysical environments.
>>16961723>>16961727>>16961728thanks, but I found this article that has the english version of the imagehttps://www.kyoto-u.ac.jp/en/research-news/2026-04-10-0
https://x.com/astro_reid/status/2046009031613907029
>>16961579>Fuck billionaires but I'm excited to see space travel start to take off againCan't have one without the other
>>16961699
>>16961732Kino
>>16961735Not really no.
>>16961693The pad avoidance maneuver is fine.I've always thought F9 executed one as you often see a small but definite translation from a trajectory that would send it in the ocean should the landing burn have failed. Only very recently has F9 been attempting straight bullseyes into the deck.BOs problem is they don't seem to be confident in the initial landing trajectory. You don't need to miss the barge much to avoid most of the damage from a failed landing burn unless for some reason you lack authority and precision to guarantee that near miss.It'll likely get much tighter as times goes on. It's only BOs 3rd time for ocean landings.
>>16961720ye
why is it hard to do landing burns? i thought computers were good enough to fully simulate reality now, so they can calculate the correct numbers to do it perfectly instead of hovering
>>16961749its extremely difficult to model accurately
>>16961749you can't simulate wind and waves
>>16961749It's really not that simple, anon
>>16961699kek
>>16961752sensors should provide instant information to negate the differences
>>16961749Very difficult for the pilot you keep up with
>>16961760they clearly don't
>>169617631960 era nasa would have figured it out if they had our current computers
>>16961760even if you get the instant information, that is still input into the actual model and when you try to do control, the system doesn't respond instantly
>>16961766sounds like you're just stuck in dunning Kreuger.
>>16961699I'm a Spacex shareholder (former employee) so seeing Starlink's biggest LEO cell service competitor get BTFO two months before Spacex IPO is hilarious. >Class action lawsuitsure man, you do that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbMgpSDhFcI
>>16961693>>16961739It's a bit hard to tell with the limited footage we have for now but it seemed like the second landing was already way closer to the ship.
>>16961699I don't get it
aaaaah
how does the failure affect BO's gov launch cert?
>>16961801why was the outside camera footage mirrored?
>>16961804I think the cameras were just rotated 90-180° and they just uploaded everything based off of how the crew/external solar panel gopros were oriented at the time of photography
>>16961806oh ok
BO doesn't seem to give a singular fuck about the payload going into the wrong orbit, basically just pretending nothing happenedlmao
>>16961813>not my problem
>>16961815It's their second stage that fucked up, anon.
>>16961813>gigachad.png
>>16961813why should they care? they still got paid, and you are one of the only launch providers so the customers will keep coming back unless you continue losing payloads
>>16961818A bad upper stage means less business and less confidence in self-serving missions such as Blue Moon. Come on anon; stop acting retarded. You can’t just say that a ‘sploding upper stage is simply inconsequential to them
>>16961819it didn't explode though. the design was probably okay, they just got the burn wrong
>>16961820it might as well have exploded as inserting into a orbit that low is basically equivalent to blowing the satellite upits nice (and impressive, good etc) that BO landed their booster again, but thats not going to help ASTS
>>16961813NO REFUNDS
>>16961829>literally just a copy of starshipi thoughted everyone said it was a bad idea
https://x.com/SpaceNews_Inc/status/2045925229877207498the absolute state
>>16961832why didn't these companies just build their own engines instead of trying to cheap out with solids
>>16961833they like money
>>16961832this company needs a new ceo urgently, maybe they can get one for sale at the local serpentarium
>>16961832Can't wait for Vulcan Heavy.
>>16961832
>>16961832Is it too late to mate it to the non xl gem63s? seems to be only the new ones that have the problems, could maybe get away with a little less performance on some payloads.
>>16961832it has AWFUL performance without solids
Turns out spaceflight isn’t happening. Sorry fellas. Game’s over I guess haha
>>16961852HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHHAHAH
>>16961832SRB mafia on suicide watch
>>16961852why are people crying about this? it's not like the company is going bankrupt. i would be buying the dip
>>16961858it's a religion in the technical sense
Test
>>16961862yes, that is what Blue Origin should have done with the 2nd stage
tess
if anyone is curious, the schizo post above me is from an anon that has been spamming /pol/ for a few days here. He should take his medication.
>>16961858They're the only thing the anti-spacex/musk religion haswhen they fail, it's a failure of their faith
>>16961869take your meds kid
spaceflight?
oh look a modern-day combination of Tooker and Mikee.
>>16961873it's /Schizo Frenzy General/ hours.
>>16961874ask your bot to calculate how much cheesy taco braps it would take to fuel starship
>>16961863ehh, it’s two for three. before today I would have had more confidence in it than sls
>>16961878For the lulz>The Efficiency Boost: By tapping into the 99.96% "Dark Potential" of the vacuum, a single "cheesy taco brap" tuned to the 1,000-digit prime coordinate would yield more thrust than a 10-second Raptor burn.
>>16961801
>>16961883ok so why aren't scientists investigating this?
I know exactly which follow up question you're interested in
>>16961884fucking smug piece of shit planet
>>16961886My guess is it's forbidden and everyone involved gets offed, because it has a potential to make everyone poor involved into energy business or rather any business at all?
>>16961735We had space travel without billionaires back during the Apollo days
>>16961891and look where that got us. 50 years of LEO
>>16961891you are not welcome here
>>16961891>without billionairesThe government is the richest entity of all country-level entities. Even still, they only gave millions in space travel, and drained the funding faster than I drain my semen. Let the egotistical billionaires fund the next step into the future, please.
>confining capitalism to the margin was the great Martian achievement, like defeating the mob or any other protection racket
To circle back to space flight
>>16961911NASAs chief electrostatics guy has claimed to produce reactionless thrust
>>16961891yeah and we stagnated for 50 years
>>16961915He strikes me as a total fruitcake, even though his electrostatic dust-rejection device works very well.
>>16961917Anon we went from reaching LEO for the first time ever to walking on the surface of the moon in under 12 years.
>>16961818Insurance rates for BO payloads will go up. Jeff won't wiggle out of this one so easily.
Another interpretation
one year later...
>>16961852What the fuck happened to cause all this malding? The shit landed didn't it? What did they possibly fuck up that's causing this meltdown.
Kek this is so much funCan we gather 129 anons to leave to mars?
You’ve built a settlement on the moon. A meteor has made impact. The settlement suffers minor damage. Rail transport tracks are destroyed. Bathroom no longer works for some reason. Scuffed insulation. Bent structural supports. You can rebuild, but you won’t. Half of you will evacuate. You will pay a 5x insurance rate out of pocket. You may need to finance the insurance. Rates are the lowest they’ve been in three years, so why not? This is an opportunity. In 8 months another meteor will hit. More people will be forced to leave. You will finance another insurance increase. This is an opportunity. It won’t last long.
>>16961928>What the fuck happened to cause all this malding? The shit landed didn't it? What did they possibly fuck up that's causing this meltdown.The second stage failed to put the payload in a usable orbit and will reenter either in a controlled or uncontrolled fashion.
So now we know what NASA is missing>Taco braps
So when will Elarp go to space in a PR stunt
>>16961936he's too chicken
aw hell naw who invited this kid?
>>16961915good for himthat'll be great once we can scale itjust need him to publish the data and schematics so people can start testing it and helping him work out the kinks
>>16961927Everyone accepts Elon time because even though it's wrong, he still gets it eventuallybody odor can't say the same, despite being years older than spacex with orders of magnitude more budget for most of that
Who doesn't want to have a zero point steam generator?
compare contrast
>>16961984so apollo didn't recharge at all?
>>16961986Fuel cells.
>>16961984artemis looks similar, just more efficient
>>16961986>>16961991O2/H2 fuel cells that also supplied the crew with potable water. Apollo 13 had one of the O2 tanks blow from an electric short and teflon, which is flammable in liquid oxygen, and that tank burst knocked out the other tanks by damaging the plumbing. They extensively redesigned the service module for Apollo 14.
>>16961992It's grossly underpowered and undercapable because they couldn't fit a more useful propellant load because the ICPS is so obscenely small for the mass of the spacecraft it's meant to propel.
>>16961993so they generated electricity by burning hydrogen and oxygen together and the condensed the resulting steam to drink it?
>Why the need of a spacecraft if you can just take a Bugatti Chiron?
>Can we go to the moon using this?
>>16961993Kinda makes me sad how we won't get detailed cutaways and shit like this for the likes of Starship and New Glenn, because they are private vehicles. The best you're gonna get is some dude on D*sc*rd putting together something, with the full version locked behind a paywall.
>>16961997>burningNo, using an electrochemical process. See https://airandspace.si.edu/collection-objects/fuel-cell-apollo/nasm_A19730934000Also, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alkaline_anion-exchange_membrane_fuel_cell
>>16962023i didn't know hydrogen could neutralize hydroxyl ions. i thought it had to be a oxidized
>what could have been
>>16962027flops vs winners
>>16962027no 9x4?
>>16961739Both vehicles execute a pad avoidance maneuver anon, even now the falcon boosters still do it, they never stopped. but new glenn’s is way more inefficient, it just comes to a hover above the water and then slowly moseys on down to the pad, it’s a huge waste of propellant.
>>16962031https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpEaFmK3lrY
>>16962030That's only the VTVL RLV that currently exist in hardware form (ignore that it's a V1 starship).9x4 is quite further down the line.
>>16961749This is the mentality of people who get angry at spacex for doing real world testing instead of just pretending that simulations are perfect btw.
>>16961819No anon, you don’t understand, if spacex intentionally tests a prototype in a suborbital trajectory and it blows up according to plan, it’s a failure and they should just simulate everything. If another company launches an operational vehicle with a paying customer on board and they fuck up the orbit insertion, that’s good for business.
>>16961838One of my fav OC’s, i appreciate the anon who turned it into a video.
>>16961852This post surely has to be satire.
>>16962031seems the smart move for what are still very much test landings
>>16961876Didn’t mikeeUSA die from a heart attack or something? Haven’t seen him around after he schizo’d out about that explosion in russia being a nuke.
>>16961884Kek
>The bluebird launch was actually planned to use nearly half of New Glenn's capability because of that 36°->50° dogleg
>>16962032always have to remeber that the Deep Space Homer aired 8 years after Challenger blew up
https://bsky.app/profile/planet4589.bsky.social/post/3mjwhvebin227A second orbit dataset from SpaceForce for the BlueBird-7 sat shows it in a 265 x 485 km x 43.0 deg orbit, indicating that the upper stage delivered about 1000 m/s, mostly changing orbital inclination. This is about half the dV that would have been needed for the target orbit
>>16962047
>>16962048wowone cubic m/s
>>16962048this is even worse as it shows the issue only popped up after a portion of the burn.
>>16962047WORK THE PROBLEM PEOPLE
>>16962047https://x.com/planet4589/status/2046217225829253430
https://x.com/planet4589/status/2046218012366184812
>>16962048why does bro look like fat thunderf00t?
so is the satellite good or not?
>>16961820I was being hyperbolic I know it didn’t explode
>>16962061no, ASTS already said they are going to deorbit it >>16961523
>you look thirsty anon, drink up!
>>16962059looking like a homeless person is the academic style
https://x.com/_MaxQ_/status/2046007163370213640
>>16961927i am honing in on pregnant catgirl ass.
>>16962027absolute mogging, as the kids say.
https://x.com/DJSnM/status/2046226011633971211lol
>>16962081sabotage.. by who? ;^)
https://x.com/asherbphotos/status/2045899781860405726
https://x.com/ABernNYC/status/2045955704507314274
>>16962074despite not being quite all the way to becoming real spacex competition yet, i gotta say, that is one sexy rocket, she's very easy on the eyes.
>>16962085i like the fins on it. better than the spacex grills
>>16962086why do spacex use the grids?one would think the simpler fins would be easier to make and weigh less
*sigh* another day of total spacex domination...
>>16962087they know they work on F9there is a lot to do as is
>>16962091what made them pick it for F9 in the first place?
>>16962093it is a relatively well established concept I guesshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grid_fin>Grid fins (here folded against the payload fairing) are part of the launch escape system of Soyuz spacecraft.
>>16962094>>16962093but I guess normal fins are too, idk whyBO had to develop some new heat resistant material for their fins which they also use on the interstageperhaps SpaceX would have had to do that as well for it to make sense to use on F9 (or starship), so they just used titanium grid fins instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfjO7VCyjPM
>>16962087better control at high mach numbers, and it also provides more drag at low speeds, slowing it down faster and leaving less of the last bit of work to the engines.the downside is far less crossrange compared to new glenn's solution and less control at low speeds.
>>16962101spaceY loldid anyone else have that one funny edited youtube video of this habbening?
>25 tons New Glenn's second stage and 6 tons payload will uncontrollable re-entry in next few daysGod help us all
>>16962105i hope it re-enters over land so we can see the lightshow, it'll be pretty.
>>16962105the world survived starship explodingit'll survive this one
imagine the kino when it lands on tel aviv
>>16962108just so long as its not on Jerusalem which is worth saving
>>16961545The ironic part is you wouldn't be saying this if it was another tribes rocket that failed.
>>16962093they are better than regular fins in almost every waythe one exception is that grid fins are absolutely awful at close to mach 1, which I think is the main reason why you don't see them more
Wait so is the Moon brown?
>>16962026>compared to HLS
>>16961801Is it just me or does the moon in new pictures looks browner than in the Apollo days?>>16962114It is not just me
https://x.com/AustinDeSisto/status/2046220463098024267>Latvia becomes the 62nd country to sign the Artemis Accords this morning at NASA HQ
>>16962122What’s the point
>>16962124Venezuela's still in ILRS, despite them not being allowed to be friends with China anymore. Almost all of these guys are only on board for crass dirtside political signaling. It's not like Europe is a serious contributor to spaceflight.
>>16962124TZD
>>16962126Okayanyway
>>16962122european countries should count, thats like counting canadian provinces
Tanegashima
A Moon lander that will -- actually land of the Moon? A company can do that?
https://x.com/Flight2Starship/status/2046243509452116475>Ship 41’s payload bay and nosecone have been moved into Megabay 2!!!
https://x.com/yingzhangphoto/status/2046001730639286482/>Ship 39 and ship 40 in the same frame. A rare sight!
>>16962140>>16962137if they have 3 starships now then they must be feeling confident
>>16962145confidence is high, repeat, confidence IS high
>>16961920yeah and then nothing for 50 years
>>16962145its only 2.5
>>16962145I have zero starships and zero confidence so it checks out
https://x.com/zerohedge/status/2046271185021759788lol so Collins dropped out entirely and now Axiom is delayed until 2031I wonder if SpaceX has a moonsuit program that could fill in in time
>>16962162whys it so hard? we did it in the fucking 60s.
>>16962163https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I5NtlfK5F4
https://spacenews.com/companies-make-the-case-for-commercial-space-station-markets/>“If CLDs have a low-cost commercial approach, we believe that not only can we be ready by 2030,” he said, “we also believe that we can be profitable on the current market.”>Haot said in a separate interview that he based that profitability on winning between 40% and 60% of overall development money for CLDs from NASA and one six-month mission a year from the agency, along with a shorter 30-day mission from other nations.
I’m not even mad. We had 20 years of contractors, congress, and NASA fucking around. Is it really a shock that 2030 is basically an impossible goal for a lander and new suits and an anemic SLS to somehow get there?Best we can do now is just hope China also runs into more delays (or perhaps sabotage their production lines?)
nasa: WE DONT HAVE ANY SPACE SUITSblue: *posts tortoise pic*
>>16962162>https://x.com/zerohedge/status/2046271185021759788>literally who twitter account
>>16962169https://old.reddit.com/r/SpaceXLounge/comments/1sqv3ij/latest_oig_report_on_nasa_axiom_spacesuits_may/
>>16962163Axiom just doesn't have the right stuff
the apollo spacesuits were made in three and a half yearshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo/Skylab_spacesuitwhat are the chances that axiom quietly pocketed the money years ago?
>>16962162Least surprising space news ever. Everyone knew that was NASA grift for their pals.
normies will find a way to blame this on elon
>>16962169literally whoWell know libertarian news headline with commentary site. If you follow rightish of center politics, you've heard of them, often mockingly.. However, no source on that headline.
Here we go. Source:https://oig.nasa.gov/audits/nasas-acquisition-of-next-generation-spacesuit-services/
>>16962162>>16962170
>>16962128TZD
>>16962174i think its just basic incompetence
artemis iv will land on the moon, but there wont be any boots on the ground
>>16962183normies and EDS people will whine this is some kind of conspiracy to give more money to SpaceX againthey could probably get some bare bones suit working to go touch the surface a bit
>>16962192put people in the spacex EVA suits and let them flop around near the elevator
>>16962183Do you enjoy playing the eternal victim?
>>16962163Liberals want walkability.
https://x.com/davill/status/2046283237887218141BO update
>>16962190Okayanyway
>>16962192worst case scenario: A SpaceX jared polaris EVA suit with a backpack (or carry-along life support pack plug in) and they just get out and do a little skipping around the lander for like an hour or two and then leave
https://x.com/planet4589/status/2046284678294856125
>>16962204https://x.com/planet4589/status/2046285517164056981
>>16962201Limp is so much better than Bob Smith, it’s really night and day
>>16962204>this is WEIRDdude has been watching way too many youtube essays
>>16962204>this is REALLY WEIRDdawg stop with sensationalism, anyone who checks Space force TLE know they've very often done bullshit for the past years.
https://x.com/edwards345/status/2046282927794004275
Is the next New Glenn launch the blue moon lander?
>>16961693It was launching like 6 tonnes and in theory it can do 45 so hopefully it was just chilling. Was a great landing though shame about the 2nd stage. The 3 engine burn back was pure kino
>>16962124>posthumous country keeps embarrasssing your favourite shitholemust be embarrassing to be a jewtin dicksucker lmao.
>>16962202TZD
>>16962196do you enjoy denying the facts?every time some other part of the spaceflight industry fucks up, normalnigs start lamenting the fact that specifically spacex is having to...no, being ALLOWED to pick up the slack because they're the only ones competent enough to do so.starship is a good example, people will whine endless about starship promises, yet at the end of the day, without starship, there is no fucking artemis, and never would have been.if spacex had never made an HLS proposal and never gotten involved in the program, you would have had artemis, with a mission statement of "permanent lunar habitation" being (attempting to be) executed with a run of the mill lander and an SLS that is too underpowered to deliver the needed TLI, and has such bad cadence that it can't compensate for this by launching more often either.starship was always going to make or break artemis, without it you may as well be recreating apollo.
>>16962192there won't be any boots on the ground, all the astronauts will walk on their hands.
https://x.com/SciGuySpace/status/2046297808437948417>This line in the new OIG report on NASA's next-generation spacesuits is interesting in light of the recent debate about commercial LEO destinations.
>>16962027
>>16962228God I want to see a disposable second stage starship configuration.>putting the mass of the entire ISS into LEO in 2 launchesImagine the capabilities
>>16962183>>16962194>>16962220holy persecution complexget a grip, sperg
>>16962205>it was actually at the bottom of the oceanmade me lol out loud
>>16962217The worst part of the whole war was seeing that big plane die in its hanger, indistinguishable slavs dying is less moving. >>16962218Okayanyway
>>16962232It is really confusing because stripping the heatshield saves 10 tonnes, no need for flaps, actuators. The header tank would need to move for extra burns but the thing would be usable now. basically a giant f9. It is already disruptive just start using the thing it is meant to be interchangeable. They can even recovert he booster when feasible.Energiya could do 100 tonnes that was the ast time lol
>>16962234you can see it in this very general, probably from you in particular in fact
>>16962239TZD
Okay, anyway
>>16962220Can't you just write your bitching about the other girls in your slam book? Try posting about space at least occasionally. This is a space general.
>>16962241Well they want to be able to areobreak it to land on Mars. IMO Elon hias the wrong idea. With that much upmass you can build anything. They should be in the orbital construction business. Imagine the space bus to the moon and mars you could build
You don't hate NASA nearly enough.
>>16962194i mean they do EVA all the time around the ISS.....
>>16962246TZD
>>16962234no, you get a grip.
>>16962247i was, crying that i'm not talking about space in the way you want me to is wasted effort.
>>16962252based TZD enjoyer
>>16961614This is the same shit I saw when people were buying meme coins and NFTs 5 years ago.
>>16962258A lot of people are desperate to get away from what they're expecting to be the permanent underclasses as AI takes over all value producing sectors in the economy.
New Astrum kino about best planet system just dropped
>>16962265>dead planets of a senile starVery cool
>>16962259That underclass won't be permitted to exist for long, so our worries will soon be over.>>16962269Maybe there's sick ruins there, you don't know
>>16962269TRAPPIST-1 e may be our future home anon
>>16962265buy an ad
>>16962265>go there>its a trap
>>16962282based are the trap-springers
>>16962282>go thereNot until their beer production is confirmed.
>>16962101balls of steel on that RSO
https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/1sqt9b5/new_rspacex_rule_no_stocks_discussion/
>>16962162>and now Axiom is delayed until 2031Oneshot by grifter clickbait.
>>16962250It's just blatant fucking grift.
>>16962250They need to uncancel xemu and whip axiom into shape severely.
>>16962286https://youtu.be/OJHmAGXsXDo
>>16962265I don't care what low quality private equity slop channels say about anything
Hop wen
>>16962293You haven't even looked at the Inspector report, have you?
>>16962310You mean the part where they give no actual argument to support their position to which the grifters deliberately omitted the OIG saying a huge "if".
>>16962324this wasn't a surprise to anybody who wasn't a complete retard
>>16962327That grifters will grift? Yeah.
>>16962328that axiom was a shitshow
qrd?
>>16962293Axiom is run by ex-NASA ISS managers. Theyre supposed to be a space station company. Where is the station?
>NASA finally does something>every single contractor associated with anything that isn’t related to shuttle hardware exposed as utterly incompetentthank you, capitalism
bigger picture of the heatshield in the article https://www.nasa.gov/missions/nasa-on-track-for-future-missions-with-initial-artemis-ii-assessments/
https://www.ark-funds.com/articles/venture-fund/arks-guide-to-the-spacex-ipo
>>16962245OkayAnyway...
Voyager 1 is now down to 2 science instruments
https://x.com/NASAAdmin/status/2046396927760376317
>>16962329You didn't read the report if you think that.
>>16962345The purpose of NASA is embezzlementthey aren't supposed to do spaceflight
>>16962354so the problem was nasa managment then?
>>16962352I love this little nigga like you wouldn't believe.
>>16962353that's a lot of words, but none of the words say 'how' it will be ready by 2028.
Hey Earth, you are not that unique.
It is in the contractors’ best interest that NASA be given a new director. Expectations are bad for business. Isaacman must be dealt with.
>>16962360Eh it actually does though, he implies they could descope the Artemis IV EVA to make it easier for Axiom's suits to qualify.
>>16962360more money to axiom perhaps
mo money for dem suits
>>16962360How will it not be ready? The suits are basically done and vacuum chamber tested.The OIG estimate is based on a retarded extremely low effort averaging and not anchored by any engineering reality specific to the program.
wait so you're telling me that humanity can send humans to the moon but can't make clothes?
>>16962374We’ve simply lost that technology. Remember, all our clothes are made in China now.
okay lets assume that fixed price contracts aren't optimal for hardware that have no commercial applications and are only specifically needed by NASAhow do you prevent cost+ contracts from devolving into pure grifting? the incentive is to never finish anything because that nets you less money overallso not fixed price, not cost+, what then?
this is what happens when you let the free market run things instead of government programs
>>16962377seems like this is what happens in either case, but with cost+ you just lose more money
>>16962379no, the cold war proved that government programs get things done
>>16962373All those highly qualified and experienced writers of that report are wrong! Listen to me!No. Don't think so.
>>16962382that was a long time ago
>>16962388>No. Don't think so.One should always be skeptical of OIG reports to make sure their analysis isn't built on faulty assumptions. The OIG did some incredible bullshit with the F-35, assuming that the fuel burn of the F-35B in hover was its nominal burn rate in all flight profiles to generate part of its lifetime operating cost estimates.
>>16962373They dont have a life support system. The suit itself is only half the system required.
>>16962382The cold war occurred when the country was 90% white and highly patriotic. The modern US is a majority non-white economic zone.
>your EVA suit sir
https://www.mcmaster.com/76155A29/
>>16962394
cut the fat, kick axiom to the curb and get a real supplier
>>16962395Duck Tape brand or nothing.
>>16962376>how do you prevent cost+ contracts from devolving into pure grifting?
Umm guys I haven’t actually seen the Moon outside with my own eyes since Artemis II. W-where did it go??
>>16962405don't worry, it's coming back
>>16962405
>>16962352>>16962357I'm really glad that it's looking like Voyager has a real chance of making it to 50. A few years ago that seemed quite unlikely still. Those people are true miracle workers.That said, Interstellar Probe when, Jared? Please I need it.>>16962376It's more that fixed price isn't ideal for a product that hasn't been done in 50 years and needs a lot of (re-)development. As for how to control costs, there are a couple of mixed forms and alternative contract types (I think there was a good summary somewhere but I don't recall), but the easiest is to just properly do the evaluations and use the penalties if required. The issue with the SLS contracts is mainly that Boeing constantly gets rated excellent and collects bonuses despite clearly not meeting the timelines and performance that'd warrant that.
>>16962388>Reporterslol shut the fuck up
>>16962412There's a really good documentary about the team of people who still maintain the Voyager missions called It's Quieter in the Twilight. The trailer is kinda shitty but I'll link it anyways: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vJT8AW0wYwWorking on a mission like Voyager has always been a career goal for me. Something lifelong and utterly benevolent. Why couldn't I have been born an autistic boomer?
>>16962418what would the work day look like? flipping a switch every decade?
>>16962351>supposedly doesn’t care>has to passive-aggressively respond every timeKek mad.
we should probe Uranus
GPS launch in 1.5 bong on a f9. this is the Vulcan't mission
>>16962426>a Vulcan't missionwasn't the previous GPS launch also meant for Vulcan?
>>16962419they don't have a lot of things to do but there's few of themgenerally just reviewing the telemetry, planning/simulation work for the next switch-flip and some clerical work, coordinating with deep space antennas and such
>>16962427Yeah. It got moved to Falcon 9 to expedite it to an available rocket.
GMAsk yourself why the schizo post (search the thread) was deleted...
>>16962434Many such cases.Falcon 9 truly is America’s rocket.
>>16962435spam gets deleted
>>16962356Anon stop pretending to be retarded, the OIG report does not say that the Axiom suits have been delayed until 2031.
>>16962224Basically NASA adopted a cargo cult approach instead of grounding to reality on why SpaceX worked.
1 minute to Falcon 9 liftoff
>>16962447i don't care about rockets that have landed hundreds of times
>>16962448It's got the last GPS-3 satellite on board
Did a double take when I heard the stream commentator say that this was the last F9 landing on JRTI and the ship will now be transitioning to Starship operations... what the fuck does that mean, exactly?
What did they mean by this?
>>16962437Then why do i see reports about 11 missing / dead NASA scientists?https://www.foxnews.com/us/nasa-coordinating-relevant-agencies-missing-scientists-probe
>>16962451>>16962452They don't have legs, so I guess they're going to use JRTI to move ships and boosters between Starbase and KSC.
>>16962453which project would that be?
>>16962454i thought they already bought another barge that would fit a booster and 2 ships for transport
>>16962454this is probably it
>>16962454yes
what happened to flying starships between starbase and florida?
>>16962455UFO tech reverse engineeringIf you are interested search for 'alien craft' and 'reverse engineered' on 4plebs /pol/
>>16962461
Wild card option: Ship 39 gets landing legs like the old days of SN15, and they land the ship on JRTI.
>>16962363Astronomists love lying
>>16962453Lol this is so corny
>>16962454I thought they were going to build another factory there to build super heavys
>>16962478They are building it, but it's not ready to build any rockets yet.
>>16962478They currently are, but since Gigabay isn't ready yet, they have to move ships around through sea until things in Florida are ready.
why did they build starbase away from the space center in the first place?
>>16962484Easier permitting and proximity to their private launch complex.
>>16962484It was the only place that had room for a new experimental launchpad and a factory at the same time.
>>16962451Either this or as platform for starship retrieval/observation/monitoring platform. Its prob too large to land, so it will likely be used for auxiliary functions for gathering data
>>16962463ah, well poisoning
>>16962493this should be starship
>>16962493Is it tough enough to handle a Starship landing?
>>16962468>>16962495>>16961724Ask him
>>16962483Can't they just put an aero-cover on top of Superheavy and hop it over?
>>16962497>>16962501oh right. i just copy pasted from Xhere's prob the correct one
>>16962503The chopsticks over at Florida ain't ready yet, either.
>>16962250no refunds
>>16962418Thanks for posting this, very cool documentary
>>16962520Why does the 1970s look like an eternal porno set?
>>16962554Structural velour
I am optimistic for the future.
I am pessimistic for the future.
I am the future.
Member the simpsons’ elon musk ‘sode [math]\unicode{x1F974}[/math]
Imagine watching The Simpsons after Season 9.Anyway, spaceflight
>>16961984its interesting to watch apollo footage and see just how small the CM was compared to Orion. The new one really is much nicer.
When is the next Starship launch, realistically?
>>169625952 to 3 weeks. Unironically.
>>16962593In addition to being smaller, there were so many more switched and controls and dials and displays plastered everywhere.Orion is way more opened up, Everything feels practical and “comfy messy”. Apollo CSM is more utilitarian and straightforward
>>16962595about two weeks
>>16962597>Apollo CSM is more utilitarian and straightforwardSpacecraft designed for airmen by people used to designing analog cockpits for airplanes for airmen.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2046454010446582108
>>16962597true. it reminds me more of the ISS than the Apollo CM in that way. watching the crew broadcasts from Orion made me think of the thing as being like a space yurt or something. seemed pretty roomy.
https://x.com/Axiom_Space/status/2046571273598169579
>>16962346eerie
>>16962353I read this as the specs for the EVA suits were aspirational (long duration EVAs?) and they specced "at least as good as Apollo" as minimum performance. Cooling has always been an issue even on the ISS suitsMy guess is they also really want a suit that can bend at the waist but nobody can make it work without compromising something
>>16962353Just bring back Mk.III
its over. humanity will wither away on planet earth because nasa cant make their own clothes anymore
https://x.com/WOLF_Financial/status/2046571792915910813
>>16962259>chatbots are da future TWO MORE WEEKS
>>16962616Dual class shareslmao the scam is baked in
>>16962617I didn't say this is an accurate view of things. It is, however, a powerful motivator.
>>16962618he has had them from the start
>>16962616is it even possible for us regular goyim to buy any shares on day one? or will it be too expensive and we have to wait for the eventual crash
https://www.reuters.com/world/musk-insiders-retain-voting-control-spacex-after-ipo-filing-shows-2026-04-21/
>>16962621of course you can buy them, not sure what you mean by expensive here? just the stock price?the stock price could be anything, what actually matters is the valuation and its going to be very rich and stay very rich for the time being even if there is a small correction I would bet, just like with TeslaMusk companies are very richly valued due to their potential and the market believing Musk has a chance of executing on that potential
>>16962623if the share count is low then it will be too expensive to buy in
>>16962624lol you are retarded
>>16962625why? do you not understand the difference between valuation and share count?
>>16962626you are not even wrong so I don't know where to startare you talking about the actual share price like I said? earlier? the share price can be anything at all, SpaceX can do a stock split when they IPO to choose an appropriate share pricethe share price, the share count and the market cap are connected yes, but SpaceX can issue new shares whenever they want, so the share price is controllable by them and talking about the share price itself as being expensive is retarded, what matters is the actual valuation unless you have like 100 bucks and a share price of 120 bucks is too expensive for you or something retarded like that
>>16962624>>16962625>>16962626>>16962628They're going to offer something like 4.3% of all outstanding shares of the company for the IPO. Whatever the existing share count is, multiply that by .043 to get the number of shares that will be for sale. The actual number of shares has not been disclosed.
>>16962628what stops me from immediately buying on launch and then selling the guaranteed spike at the start? this pattern happens for literally all IPOs
>>16962632nothing
>>16962633then why doesn't every investment firm do it?
>>16962616>makes 54k a year>supposedly the world’s richest manLMAO musk is just some nobody. Your average plumber is richer than him.
>>16962635maybe its not as guaranteed as you think
>>16962643it's absolutely guaranteed for any high profile IPO since hype is what drives price up at the start
https://x.com/SpaceForceCSO/status/2046536026613481968
>>16962636This is why everybody considers him a huckster. He's actually poor and it's all a big scam. Tesla, SpaceX, X, they're all fake.
>>16962644Tesla has never issued a dividend. Will SpaceX? If you want to make money make a product or supply a service lmao, who is going to fix the toilets if everyone trades stock for a living?
https://x.com/NASAAdmin/status/2046595795583955209>The Nancy Grace Roman Space Telescope is in final preparations for an early September launch, eight months AHEAD of schedule and UNDER budget. This milestone is the result of more than a decade of dedication and millions of hours of work by NASA and our industry partners. Their commitment is what’s making this moment possible and helping drive Gold Standard Science. Roman will help answer some of the biggest questions in science, investigating dark matter, dark energy, and the structure of the universe. Its images will be so large and detailed, there isn’t a screen in existence big enough to display them. This is just the beginning.
https://x.com/planet4589/status/2046564091058110969>The following video by @MvCrisis was reportedly taken in the Maldives at 0355-0400 UTC Apr 20. It's possible it shows the AST SpaceMobile BlueBird 7 reentry, although the SpaceForce TLE says this time was 25 min too early to be BB7, so I don't regard it as confirmed.
https://x.com/GewoonLukas_/status/2046564577685426397>According to several Japanese reports, JAXA is preparing for the next H3 launch NET June 10th! This would be H3-F6, which is the test flight of the -30S configuration. This will be the return to flight after the H3-F8 failure, which was caused by a defect in the payload adapter.
Elon Musk is Canadian.
>>16962651NGRST could be here
>>16962653@grok remove the watermark
