Demolished launch site - editionprevious >>16969283
Is Space Reactor One really feasible in two years or is that another aspirational goal?
Retarded misinfo edition
>>16971935Let us know when SpaceX posts about the glorious static fire success.
>>16971978Sure thinghttps://x.com/SpaceX/status/2052499098347979156
1 week?
>>169720072.
>>16972010oh sorry for doubting
lol dwarf
another one from Spacex. Looks good
>>16972046looks can be deceiving
>>16972046I will admit, it looks nominal here. On the NSF stream it looked like IFT1 with loads of dark concrete looking debris being thrown up.
>>16972046Despite adding a flame trench the pad still seems a big small for a rocket of this power. Wouldnt building the pad taller help with acoustics?
ETA to next starship launch?
>>16972073The overpressure and force is pretty extreme anywhere near the trench exits.Of course anything loose is going to get launched
>>169720882 working weeks
>haven't been paying attention to space this year>think i haven't seen any starship news i wonder how many times it launched>check wiki?????????? WTF HAPPENED
>>16972111well they had to build a new pad.then a new ship testing stand because a ship exploded.then a new booster since a booster exploded. then they decided to make even more pad upgrades.
>>16972088FAA has cleared 12 and 13 May, so sometime then unless there's some serieus probleem
>>16971847Isn't the big thing constructing the nuclear reactor? But don't we already make reactors of that size?
>>16972118maybe they should stop building ships that explode??
>>16972147Pajeets and reddit mods will always do it for free
>>16972105>Gas clouds glitching the fuck outIt's like I'm playing KSP!
>>16972177NSF's full speed video that Universal Abundance reposted in the X comment section needs to be made into a webm. It looks so weird from far away
>>16972147This post isn't related to spaceflight
>>16972147it do be like that
>>16972105I still don't like the asymmetry of 3 grid fins
>>16972105imagine standing under that haha
>>16972250mmmmhh, roasted plover
>>16972111>i am feigning surprise when i already know all of these things because i am drama seeking and feminine, i will now proceed to samefag and when anyone points it out i will samefag even harder.
>>16972147You have a borderline personality, dude, your inability to stop pretending to be retarded for attention is a mental affliction, it shouldn’t be a point of pride. Make an actually funny post, say something original, being poisoned by constant irony and the inability to be genuine is a cursed way to live.
>>16972258you two are the same person
>>16972262No, i am one person, and unlike you, i’m actually capable of being a genuine, real person who doesn’t cloak his thoughts or feelings in 1000 layers of irony.
>>16972237I'm still wondering whyit saves mass I suppose but I wonder about maneuverability
>>16972288all things considered, 1st stage re-used boosters have fairly simple trajectories, they don't need massive crossrange or the ability to suddenly divert to a wildly different landing site, the trajectories they take are pretty set in stone, you only need enough maneuverability to create the path back to launchsite and keep it there with mid-course corrections.if you're looking to get way more crossrange in order to loft your booster further before turning back around, you're better off not using gridfins at all and going with what blue origin uses, new glenn, booster has a lot more lift with those strakes and if it chose to do RTLS, it could probably get away with burning less fuel before gliding than a similar size gridfin design, i'm sure it has it's own disadvantages too though like more surface for re-entry heating to cling to and higher dry mass.
>>16972288if anyone knows about landing boosters its those guys. clearly it must be just fine.
How does he cope with Falcon 9’s success?
>>16972336Nothing he said has been wrong. Are the 100x reduced launch costs in the room with us right now? Internal launch cost is only gut to a third by reuse. 15 mil down from 45. Not the 100x Elon has bene promising since forever.
>>16972336>Falcon 9you mean the mercury-redstone with modern engines? already been done before, nothing new. don't forget to subscribe to my patreon and buy my merchandise.
https://x.com/cremieuxrecueil/status/2052735279036088723Sierra Club is dying. No more beetles focus.
>>16972346sad day for mother earth
>>16971760>/sfg/ - Spaceflight Genera you're missing an L there bro
>>1697234315 vs 150
>>16972343I'm being sincere here in asking this but would thunderfoot or you for that matter rather companies not do anything?
>>16972336He doesn't have to admit he is a clown when he just doesn't acknowledge its existance anymore.
>>16972264>i’m actually capable of being a genuine, real person>only posts xe makes in threads is to schizo ramble
>>16972380>would thunderfoot or you for that matter rather companies not do anything?Nobody said that.Credit where credit is due, SpaceX for a solid decade were the only organisation in the world to carry out first stage reuse, and so far are the only organisation to ever make orbital rocket stage recovery economically advantageous. Thunderf00t has a level of personal ego in the game because he dislikes Musk for being a charlatan. For me pointing out the obviously and intentionally false statements of Musk has nothing to do with disliking SpaceX, it's just because I dislike lies and falsehoods. Musk is the greatest businessman to ever live, because he exists in a climate where the meta business model is to lie about the present and future performance of your company to drive investment. He is a multifaceted person with good and bad traits.15 million internal launch cost is good if true, why does that upset you? It is obviously nowhere near the Musk promise, but is still huge. Point is ThunderF00t was right all along if you actually bothered to listen. SpaceX has not passed on cost savings to consumers, meanwhile people live in a fantasy world where SpaceX in some alternate universe has revolutionised the launch market by bringing costs down. SpaceX has indirectly driven a rennaisance in space investment due to investors wanting to get in on 'the next SpaceX', but they have not themselves changed the world by reducing launch costs with Falcon 9. Starship remains an open question. I hope they win where Shuttle failed and 2nd stage reuse works out as economically viable. I have faith. But it will obviously not be the fanfic number of 10 million per launch. More realistically 60 million once cadence is up at Falcon levels. Presently it's 10x that.
>>16972336Simple, he sticks his head in the ground and pretends it never happened
>>16972404>it's just because I dislike lies and falsehoodshello chunder
If Starship is going to be putting AI sats in relatively high polar orbits, I worry that this could be the start of kessler syndrome. if sats fail they wont deorbit for decades. Starship could collect derelict sats (though i doubt that will ever happen), but with hundreds of Starship flights to these orbits the chance seems quite high that a starship explodes and showers debris over the orbit.
>>16972413gb2r
>>16972404I mean, a lot of what musk peddles is smoke and mirrors, but footy here decided to bet against the only thing musk has a real personal interest in. Hyperloop, Tesla, Neurolink, X, are all hype for investment, but spaceflight is literally his childhood dream
>>16972343everything he has said has been wrong, you are desperate for attention.
>>16972378wrong, this is a thread about the lineages of space creatures.
>>16972395>i am only capable of pretending to be a retardwe already knew that, now something new please, do you have any spaceflight insights for us or are you going to spend every single day pretending to be retarded and then getting angry when people don't fall for your bait? (hint: people pointing out your bait is not the same as them falling for it, they're laughing at you).
R8 my shitty idea:>air launched spaceplane for the USSF>launched from Stratolaunch derived mother ship>methalox linear aerospike engines>maybe hypergolic OMS so it can stay in orbit for long duration>2 versions:>unmanned version with robotic arm in payload bay that can both deploy shit and seize enemy satellites>manned version with pressurized cargo hold that can transport personnel and potentially could be used for space tourism for civilians
>>16972423Build it in KSP then get back to us with the results.
>>16972426i'm diving into the KSP modding rabbithole at the moment, is RSS any fun at all or just tedious compared to the base game?
>>16972422>IM LAUGHING IM LAUGHING DONT YOU SEE HOW IM LAUGHINGwhy don't you share your laughter with the class, cutiepie? We all want to hear how much fun you're having pointing out all the pretend retards.
>>16972427Idk I've always been happy with the stock system, once you add the Outer Planets mod in at least. I also use the cryogenics mod to freeze kerbals for extremely long voyages, getting out to Sarnus and beyond is 10+ years minimum but worth it to fly around on Tekto or try landing on the low-g egg Ovok.
>>16972428>greentextthat is what you're doing all the time, yeah, pretty embarrassing>NONONO YOU DONT UNDERSTAND GUYS IM JUST BAITING, Y-YOU'RE RESPONDING IN ANY WAY AT ALL WHICH MEANS I WIN INTERNET POINTS!you're not a genuine person, nothing you say means anything, you're incapable of normal human interaction because your autistic brain turns everything into a shitty game of "pretend to be a retard". if it wasn't entirely self inflicted i would almost feel bad for laughing at you.
>>16972427RSS is a load of tedious makework with loads of glitches and inconsistent systems. If you want the game to remain fun while having a huge challenge, 10x scale kerbol system is the way to go. You need to build real scale rockets and actually need to have mass autism like how much monoprop and ablative you want to bring on the capsule etc.
>>16972430i feel like the ridiculous travel time to outer planets could be alleviated using near future tech and stuff, i think i'll just get the outer planets mod and then some of those spicy nuclear engines and skip RSS, it's not like i'm gonna bother writing shit with KOS to get things to LEO efficiently anyways.
>16972434Someone please make this schizo leave, it is getting tedious
>16972428someone please make this schizo leave, it is getting tedious
>>16972436You can try out one of the warp drive mods if you want, but they have their own learning curve to managing velocity between jumps. I prefer to let ships drift for years and just do other stuff while they're traveling, tweakscale some bigger nerva engines if you don't want to bother adding extra mods.
>>16972434holy melty lmao
>>16972404I just get the idea that the insane focus on Musk claims and the criticism if taken to a logical extreme, would indicate that the basement dewller who claims to do nothing and does nothing would be a better business person than Musk.Not even the biggest SpaceX fanatic takes most things Musk says with a grain of salt, not necessarily because it's impossible but there is a reality that things are constrained by things even outside of Musk.They are tolerated even for their unrealistic nature because it does bring people with drive who want to make even a tenth of what Musk says a reality and it works. SpaceX is real, launches more than anyone, one of the few companies with a reliable rocket that's human rated and is now working on one of the most ambitious rocket ever.The cheap shots at musk claims make it seem like none of that matters at all. It's even more disappointing coming from people who claim to be intelligent. The company that used to personally insult SpaceX employees can't even make an SRB work right and is literally getting their manifest yanked, but yet SpaceX is finished because they haven't landed a dragon capsule on Mars yet.It's like no one is looking at the bigger picture.
someone plz rate my rocket design:>TSTO>methalox with 7 oxygen rich staged combustion engines on the first stage>downrange recovery of first stage>expendable hydrolox second stage>possibly reusable second stage down the line>7m payload fairing
>>16972448GENIUS
>>16972444holy melty lmao
>>16972446>It's like no one is looking at the bigger picture.yeah, its very petty when people focus on all that stuff. its got nothing to do with reality and really seems motivated by things other than a love of spaceflight.
holy melty (blood)
>>16972446>The company that used to personally insult SpaceX employees can't even make an SRB work right and is literally getting their manifest yankedworse than that, they already tried to sell out but nobody's buying, they're so outdated that other players in the market aren't even willing to buy up their assets if they're not being sold at bottom of the barrel prices. tory bruno chose the right time to leave the sinking ship, i fear that ULA is going to face a very slow, drawn out death, if not, it will be because it's getting held above water by government funding, though with neutron and new glenn quickly becoming operational, i doubt that even the argument to keep them alive purely on govt handouts will hold out.
>>16972288Booster 19 reenters at such a tilted angle that the airflow to the now nonexistent grid fin is almost entirely blocked by the body of the booster. That's why. A control surface hiding in the shadow of airflow isn't useful. Once it goes more vertical it is near the end of travel and can now steer using the engines, so the final fin is still not needed
is anything happening today
>>1697247550/50
>>16972475eds-chan falling for low grade bait (usual) and desperately trying to act smug (usual as well)
>>16972478yep, >>16972444 just can't help but get baited.
>>16972455i got banned for posting this lolthere are some salty people here
>>16972446yep
>>16972510deserved. I only hope you took your meds in the absence.
>>16972404>the obviously and intentionally false statements of Musk
>>16972518you need to lighten up
>>16972522you need to frighten up before i pound that boypussy of yours.
>>16972510i made >>16972455and didn't get banned, not sure what you're talking about.
>>16972427I think Kerbalism is the only hard mode type mod that I enjoyed. I think radiation is a little too brutal but you can turn it down. Besides that I have system heat for nuke stuff, restock, near future stuff, Space Y and a couple more. For me RSS just makes you need 10x more delta v
>>16972529I posted that picture in a thread like a week ago and got a 3 day ban, that is allnot sure where I got it from (might have been another thread on /sci/ or /pol/ right after the assasination attempt)
>>16971847Ludicrous grift. We wouldn't even have found the right contractor for the job by 2028 let alone launch the thing...
Hungry Hippo status?
>>16972534oh so you completely changed your story now? convenient. Yet mentally ill.
>>16972554what the fuck? what did I change
>>16972557don't worry, >>16972554 is not me, he's some retard who's got a hateboner for me ever since i started pre-emptively reminding him of what he's doing.when schizo's like this aren't allowed to baitpost in peace they get uppity and start trying to ruin all discussion through obsessive samefagging and impersonation.
>>16972585sad
KSP made me wonder if a turbofan ring of engines could work as a first stage
>>16972595anon that was a pre launch meal for a French astronaut, Crew-5 or something like that.I remember posting about it in /sfg/ when it happened
>>16972599<3
https://x.com/spaceOFFSHORE/status/2052858835346325829>A look at progress on the Rocket Lab landing barge (droneship) for the Neutron Rocket, shared during the Investor Call yesterday. Mechanical fit-out is underway with 'Return On Investment' expected to undertake sea trials later this year.
>>16972610somebody needs to take away rocketlab's naming privileges
>>16972610Peter Beck is interesting. He is a polar opposite to Elon. Rather than being a charasmatic savant with insane goals he is a painfully boring dullard with a myopic focus on running his business like a good little shop keeper
https://x.com/Echo5550/status/2052842834550493482
>>16972640retarded design.
>>16972642Relative to what?
so is the pad / raptors fucked or not? their little tour video said the previous aborts due to pad sensor issues basically ruined the engines and they just had that shit happen again the other day
>>16972646They aborted the previous two static fires. The first abort was fast-abort, and that damaged the engines. The second abort was also due to sensor outages, but it's never been specified what the shutdown pattern was. The third fire was full duration with a graded shutdown. There are currently no indicators of damage to the launch mount or flame trench. One skate on tower 2 appears to be busted and they're in the middle of replacing it.
>>16972645New Glenn
>>16972647A decade into development of the worlds first fully reusable rocket and they have yet to develop the innovation of a fully reusable launch pad. 3 more decades sisters?
>>16972658What does New Glenn do better?
>>16972343bruh, Elon makes up ton of shit for investors and whatnot, everyone knows this by now.You should never take anything he says seriously, even if he ends up delivering 10% of what he promises it's still way more than what any other space company actually does.
>>16972105this is 10x more orgasmic with sound https://x.com/SpaceX/status/2052499098347979156/video/2
open the starlink bay door, HAL
>>16972674I’m afraid I cannot even launch, dave
>There's been more static fires than launchesLet that sink in.
Something happened during the ship's rollout; there was a concerning amount of wobble. They stopped moving it
>>16972682Elon should be nicknamed Iceman, or perhaps Mr. Freeze… the way he constantly gets cold feet
>>16972682>>16972685
aaand its rolling again
>>16972689>>16972682Looks like they slammed the brakes for something.
>https://old.reddit.com/r/SpaceXLounge/comments/1t6zt1c/the_truth_about_spacexs_orbital_datacenters/its strange how upset they are about this
Elon should be named Maverick, or perhaps The Flash… the way he’s always moving fast and exceeding expectations
>>16972689Pray to God you don't drop that shit
>>16972693>its strange how upset they are about thisNot very upset from the look of things, unless you're equating mild mannered dispute and disagreement with anger or frustration.
>>16972689Luna jumpscare
it's passing the NSF camera shortly
wtf is this?
>>16972701stupid is what
>>16972701It almost looked like soemthing worth watching, then the woman showed up. I hope at least Tory gets to hit that.
>checking april's job reports numbers>its obviously horrifyingly bad>check comments>someone said aerospace is hiring alot>people said thats weird, they werent aware of it at alldespite how important space is, barely anyone is cognizant of it. i guess its because the industry is concentrated in specific areas of the country. people are missing out.
transporter issues?
>>16972713what are the big squares of tiles on the back side for?
>>16972713it still looks like an unfinished prototype
>>16972704Yeah, he does look like he beats women. Based.
I'm bored. What's the next breakthrough going to be after rapidly reusable meme rockets and sat spamming LEO? Nothing. It's over.
nsf on lousiana>it would take two decades to build up the facilities there>its a good location for launching orbital data centers
Almost half a year wasted and zero flights, fucking hell
>>16972714Sources tell me the intended purpose is to protect from the intense heat of re-entry.
>>16972719You can convince californian fags to move to boca chica TX or florida (and recruit a cheap mexican workforce from either site)You CANT convince your CA engineer force to move to nigger orleans or fourch*n, LA
>>16972717refueling & maneuverable satellites
>>16972715yeah it really is. Looks miles better than Starhopper but still nowhere near Shuttle Columbia on STS1. The fact that the enginner guy in the recent starship documentary said V3 can be in space for "up to" 48 hours should really say enough. HLS is not even theoreticlaly possible with this V3 vehicle. It's just another test article which will be replaced by V4.
>>16972724ISS has been doing that since forever
>>16972714Unknown. Thermal environment measurement has my guess.
>>16972724It will never happen, but Starship flying round as a caretaker refuelling sats and capturing broken ones would be cool.
>>16972722after SpaceX has built like 5 pads it should become more routine ditto with launching a bunch of themwhich means at some point they won't necessarily need some genius engineers on site to run the thingboca chica is going to be for RnD, the cape for generic launches for anything and the louisiana spot basically only for the datacenter launches
>>16972731Fake laws restricting speech don't count in America, and X is American.
>>16972725>The fact that the enginner guy in the recent starship documentary said V3 can be in space for "up to" 48 hours should really say enoughi noticed that too but felt like it only applied to the current crop of prototypes. hls variants will likely be able to stay in space for a long time.
GATEWAY TO MARS
>>16972731Musk already told them to fuck off
arrival
>>16972731Nuke france
>>16972731Finally, the lazy fat faggot mod got off his morbidly obese ass and deleted your stupid ragebait post for once
defense related news>the military released UFO info, including from pics taken by apollo astronauts, but its a big nothingburgerhttps://www.twz.com/news-features/the-newly-released-government-ufo-archives-will-leave-you-shrugging>rocketlab joins golden dome's space-based interceptors projecthttps://spacenews.com/rocket-lab-joins-raytheon-on-space-interceptor-program-for-golden-dome>turkey is building ICBMs with non-WMD warheads for regular bombing campaignshttps://www.twz.com/nuclear/what-is-behind-turkeys-pursuit-of-an-icbmi remember the US abandoning prompt global strike 20 years ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conventional_Prompt_Strike, but with iran/russia/yemen using ballistic missiles for conventional attacks, then turkey pursuing ICBMs for it may mean that ballistic missile warfare is becoming a trend for the future. that means golden dome will become even more important as time goes on.>space force says they need alot more guardians to help keep up with the launch industry>even though the military branch is going to double in size, it still wont be enough manpowerhttps://www.defenseone.com/threats/2026/05/launches-slated-grow-hundredfold-space-force-seeks-more-sites-money-people-and-ai/413403/?oref=d1-homepage-top-story>bridenstine is now CEO of Quantum space>the company is making maneuverable satellites for the militaryhttps://arstechnica.com/space/2026/05/former-nasa-chief-takes-helm-of-national-security-space-firm
>>16972759SpaceX Groundship
>>16972759needs FEWER tiles
Europa Clipper update? What is it doing
>>16972760GroundX Groundship
>>16972765
Are they doing a booster catch for flight 12?
IFT-1 is closer to the first Falcon Heavy than it is to Flight 12.
>>16971760So far the shortest duration between booster static fire and launch is 25 days.
Reminder that this thread is illegitimate.
>>16972768It's an unplanned, rapid merger with the Boring Company.
>>16972830Fuck your gayass thread mobody cares about it faggot.
>>16972866Currently all /sfg/ threads are illegitimate. Both threads were made at least a day before reaching page 10.
>>16972682probably a gust of wind
>>16972701We're running out of spaceflight related terms to name things.
>>16972887when i see a girl with big boobies my node do be ascending if you know what i mean.
Chopsticks and stabilizer pins are attached to Ship 39
https://x.com/deeptechweek/status/2052977288627826987
>>16972897is a boob window like that necessary on a spacesuit
>>16972925Published papers with replication steps and thorough detailing of the experimental apparatus, along with an orbital demonstration mission that is an unqualified success or it's bunk.
>>16972642How would you improve it?
>>16972046AI
Chopsticks are holding the ship. It's only a couple of inches off the transport stand right now.
they stopped to let a drone inspect. or its broken.
>>16972713>>16972935what are those 2 big air horns next to the fins?
>>16972937It's going up again>>16972938Docking adapter interfaces.
>>16972938those are the starship's benis receptacles
>>16972940Starship isn't intersex?
who is this random nerd speaking on the stream
>>16972944They're probe-and-drogue interfaces.
>>16972926yes, but given the artist i'm surprised he hasn't also drawn a humongous futa cock sandwiched inbetween them.
I'm scared about Flight 12
>>16972951I'm excited about Flight 12 and i'm just not gonna get down about Starship!i know.....i know....but i'm just not gonna get down about it is allHAHAHAHAHA
>>16972954What if it destroys the pad
Can we into spehs?
I can't stack bros
>>16972949Thats horrific! Please tell me the artist name so I can avoid it!
>for the first time we have a rocket capable of sending obscene amounts of mass to anywhere in the solar system for cheaper than ever before>no one, not even musk, is interested in bombarding the celestial objects with as many probes and landers as we can fit inside it
I had a dream where they put cameras on the dummy links but didn't reveal it until they deployed them and showed the live camera feeds
>>16972960>picreminds me of that pool meme with the baby and the crying kid
are we still two weeks away from launch?
>>16972956they'll just fix it!
I had a dream that the launch was aborted too late and the whole stack just tipped over into the towermake of this what you will
>>16972725I still don't understand how these things will radiate heat in longer missions.
>>16972974I had a dream that Trump revealed aliens in a press conference and they were literally eldar from 40k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJRzQsLZGgits happening
who is the doomer NSF commentator
https://x.com/RGVaerialphotos/status/2052913747010658364
>>16972989>aerial photography>pic is from the ground
>>16972990dont be so picky. maybe the drone was just low.
>>16972990my day is ruined
v3 looks alight, a bit too much greebling
>>16972996what thinkest thee of it's gyre and gimble?
wet dress rehearsal is possible today
The ship itself looks decent, but the booster is really unsightly.
>>16972985lighting the upper stage engines when practically touching the top of the booster can not be good. perhaps this is why the ship keeps failing during the burn to orbit.
>>16973003Neither part looks good. Ship lacks the nice curves and geometric perfection of Shuttle. The bare steel on ship doent help, makes it look like an obviously unfinished prototype, like launching dragon with bare aluminium. Starship would go a long way to having soul and aesthetics if it had thermal blankets on the non tiled areas, and integrated solar panels and radiators.
https://x.com/fortworthchris/status/2052568241118106003
>>16973009some people win in life. most lose. it do be that way.
>>16973006Functioncally speaking, how is this different to supersonic retropropulsion? You're firing a rocket with the exhaust 'obstructed' (airflow coming up the engine bell like an enema)
Say it with me: Nuclear. Renaissance.
>>16973013meh, its been promised for decades. i'll believe it after it happened.
>>16973001what about a wet t-shirt competition?
>>16973006they've been hot staging nearly the entire time. seems to be ok
>>16972960artist name is Momo no Suidousui anon, have fun.
>>16972967We are two weeks away from the 4 to 6 weeks announcement
>>16973025Propellant is stored in the ba-- boobas
