One week - editionprevious >>16971760
Someone post it
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>>16975252not my proudest fap.
>>16975245Something that is astounding: Starship has no logo. Even falcon 1 had a logo
Which one she choosing sfg?
>>16975257the more egregious issue is no massive USA / flag on the side.
>>16975261I would find that quite gawdy
>>16975258pot calling the kettle black.
He thought he cooked with that one
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>>16975260what's the purpose of the veins
>>169752663d printed. this isn't your grandpappy's ispgrid
>>16975266tile active cooling
>>16975266proompter was thinking of veiny black cocks and the AI picked up on it
>>16975260whiteshipbros how are we meant to compete with that?!!?!
>>16975266>>16975269yeah, proompter follows amerimutts law
https://youtu.be/LuFdNhKZHgAGrok agrees, quantized inertia is the only logically consistent theoretical framework for our universe.
https://x.com/raz_liu/status/2054362212303811065>ZQ-2E Y5 was spotted vertical at JSLC. The launch date has been postponed for 1 day. Window now begins at 14 May 1052 BJT [May 13 10:52 PM EST]
What the actual fuck he actually winning at lifeBased isacc arthur makes sfg seethe and wins at life
>>16975300>him>JMG>Astrum>AntonWhich is the most irritating?
>>16975302Isacc is based cringekinoNever saw any jmg, anton is just too dry and weird but not annoyingNow asstrum makes me sethee he always gets me.with the clickbait like>jwst found godAnd then its some bullshit
if v3 doesn't work I will drive down to starbase and hold up a sign in protest
>Flight 12 Max-Q at T+45 secondsEven an Atlas V 551 usually doesn't hit Max-Q until a minute into flight, with the soonest happening at about T+48 seconds. That thing's going to scream off the pad.
>>16975259Do all futanari’s wear calvin klein?
>>16975320Just for reference i took a look, starship flight 11 was only going about 700 km/h at T+ 45 seconds.
Flight 12 got delayed because Elon(Felon) is going to to eat cats and dog with his friend Donald Duck.
>>16975325is he in China with Drumph? I wish he wouldn't fly so much.
>>16975325Tim Apple to join them
>>16975326yeah its trump, elon, and several other billionaires. they're trying to do a big trade deal.
>>16975328Elon and four other dudes worth one billion each.
L2 is saying that Elon's new transport barge has been loaded with a booster and is heading towards Panama.
>>16975325Are you serious?
>>16975336No dumbass they wont eat cats he messing with you
https://x.com/JoeTegtmeyer/status/2054387041475903829?s=20>Starship V3’s cryogenic recirculation is a critical new capability introduced with this new version of Starship and is likely a practical application of NASA’s foundational research while translating ZBO concepts and recirculation feed systems into flight hardware
>elon will be back in the US next weekthere it is, starship NET next week
Baby, will you vaccuum my header feed lines and activate my improved RCS system?
I’m curious what the new raptor startup method mentioned on their site is, is it merely a change in sequencing or have they changed the igniters/pumps physically?
>>16975344>have they changed the igniters/pumps physically?Yeah
>>16975344They will be using fireworks to set off every launch in the 50 days before and after Independence Day in honor of America’s 250th anniversary.
>>16975326He traveled by rocket
>>16975343>tfw no gf willing to vacuum my header feed line
>>16975245The google talks with SpaceX is to secure Starship launches early on. Because Google knows Starship will be very active and very busy soon as it makes it to commercial launch. Starlinks will consume 90%(10% reserved for other companies to utilize the capacity) of the launches, and then further AI computers based on Starlink platforms.
>>16975360starlinks are only 90% of the launches if spacex doesnt build more launch sites. WE NEED MORE LAUNCH SITES ELON.
Good morning. I am rich now. (thanks elon)
Just gave Project Hail Mary a watch, and to my surprise, I enjoyed it. Much more than The Martian.Give it a try, if you're still on the fence about it. It's a fun movie.
>>16975374I couldn't get past the cringe. Had to stop after 15 minutes.
When will an /sfg/ human make a short space movie with AI?
>>16975381bro don't summon bike anon
Cancel Starship
>>16975376Oh, if you couldn't handle that, you need to expose yourself to more higher level cringe to gain immunity.
>>16975376Just watch ecchi anime for a week, you’ll gain immunity.
>>16975383Bike anon, make an AIslop of rocky from hail mary rolling in his ball next to a woman on a bike.
>>16975259I've jerked off to this several times.
>>16975361we need more pylons
>>16975396Spawn more overlords
wikipedia says we left the information age a few years ago and are now in the the imagination age>The Imagination Age is a period where creativity and imagination are the primary engines of economic valuehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imagination_Agewhat happened to space age 2.0? we lost to the ai chuds.
>>16975376Cringe is a personal skill issue.
>>16975408>wokepediayikes
>>16975408late-stage service economy cope
>>16975408>The Covid19 pandemic (which started in late 2019-2020) marked the rise of the Imagination Age, since everything changed.This article is articulated with a 14 year old middle schooler’s writing level
>>16975418What does grokipedia say about this? I only trust the brown Man's encyclopedia.
https://x.com/RaulTorresPLD/status/2054504202630558150>MIURA1 barrel (0,7m dia) (left), MIURA5 barrel (2m dia) (center), and MIURA [?] (>3m dia)for future reusable vehicle, including landing legs, control surfaces and propulsive landing. This is going to be MASSIVE.
>>16975425>milled aluminum>not rolled steeli bet they use liquid hydrogen as fuel
>>16975320>>16975324with such a high twr it seems a waste for it to be such a narrow pencil. Shame it takes such effort to change the diameter. Optimal shape for booster and ship is fat gnome shape
>>16975425If I sit on it will it crumple?
>>16975433It would be extremely painful
Blue Origin are much further along the path to reusability than it may look. They replaced the engines on the reused flight of the New Glenn, but that was most likely done to get a deep look at these flight worn engines for an unlimited number of time while they continue the launch manifest, rather than those engines being fucked beyond use. Everything about New Glenn shows they are taking reusability serious from the start. For example the humungous water deluge, or the fact the stage 2 waits so long to start its burn to avoid charring the booster.Starship has gone all in on squeezing every drop of performance out the design to get useful payload to orbit by any means necessary, and it will be probably another half a decade after first orbit until they solve for easy-ish reuse, since right now the booster is expected to endure insane punishment, and as we have seen returns with broken bells and god knows what other damage.
>2022 Lunar HLSWhat went wrong sisters... WHat went so terribly wrong?
>>16975440Okay, do you have a point to make or something?
Why is everyone posting in the fake thread?
>>16975441Late ass NASA HLS downselect with unrealistic expectations, Bezos litigation and a court-ordered stand down on direct HLS work, Biden FAA, Musk shifting to politics and grok, Musk’s melty, unforeseen emergent V2 issues at almost the exact same time as slow ramp up for V3 with a rough transition between the two, supposedly too much hands-off from management and a growing disgruntled workforce and lazy managersThe truth lies somewhere between all of these, I imagine.
Daily reminder: The EU is building Invictus to counter the US.
>>16975450We do not believe carrying hundreds of tonnes of oxidizer is a smart way to put payloads into orbit.
>>16975452How the hell has the SSTO Skylon scam persisted for this long? It's retarded on the face of it. It would be easier to put men on the moon than build this useless plane.
>>16975452Only five years to go before the pathfinder is finished. Being generous and assuming it goes on schedule.>>16975454Subscale pathfinder, so not an SSTO.
>>16975454The founders of REL are all from Rolls Royce and have very close ties to the MIC.
>>16975447There's also the issue that it's a lot easier to build a rocket the size of Starship than it is to build a launch pad that Starship can take off from with a 24 hour turnaround and zero-maintenance. They were originally thinking than they didn't even flame diverters or a deluge system. It looks like they've got something now that can stand up to a rapid launch cadence, but it's taken a while to get there and the pad itself is not something that can be built quickly.
>>16975454>read up on the history of ESA>it was founded by a committee to create studies>it ballooned into more committees creating more studiescrazy that the grift has been going for 60 years
>>16975454nah it would be an insane capability if actually built. There's nothing wrong with the technology itself, merely the implementation of it.
>jesse we have to cookhttps://arstechnica.com/space/2026/05/varda-signs-deal-with-major-us-pharma-firm-to-develop-drugs-in-space/
>>16975485>it would be an insane capability if actually builtsuch as?
>>16975457>The founders of REL are all from Rolls Royce and have very close ties to the MIC.Back as a kid when I first got into researching the space industry myself I was scouting the scene trying to find a legit company, there was CG scam here, CG scam there, same as today in many ways actually. Elon instantly won me with the SpaceX office tour. He was legit. I was skeptical of reaction engines, and watching interviews gave me the strong impression that they had zero plan to ever build Skylon, and that the engine program was clearly a military R&D scheme for use in jets, with the vineer of a spaceplane. Very annoying.
Was cancelling Lunar Gateway a good idea?
>>16975500No, it was a great idea
Forgot I was scrubscribed to this guyhttps://youtu.be/lsvXo8dVGDE
>>16975506Nobody gives a fuck, buy an ad.
one day there will be starships landing in china for E2E
>>16975506Do not post this idiot again.
>>16975506I give a fuck, post this idiot again.
>>16975512Taiwan will be made into an E2E spaceport and a project orion glass launchpad
>>16975486meth labs in space?
If the moon landing was real why is it still in the sky? Checkmate atheists
>>16975408>The Imagination AgeCompletely imaginary unless you count AI hallucinating.>>16975526Because the astronauts resisted the powerful urge to eat it when they were up there, otherwise it wouldn't be.
>>16975526the moon hasn’t landed since 1972 silly
>>16975544Why arare you lying? We had an apolo 11 like last month
>Called Saturn V>Never once went to Saturn
>>16975526You don’t have to be total flat earth space is fake schizo mode to understand that the video footage from 1970 of astronauts prancing around on the moon doing donuts and Tokyo drifting in a dune buggy was obviously a giant LARP fest
>>16975554yes you do.because the only refutation to “why didn’t the soviets call us out on it then? why don’t the chinese call us out on it now?” is to expand your position to include all world governments being in cahoots lying about space.
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>>16975550as far as you know, goy
>>16975556to be fair the soviets not publicly screaming “fake” isn’t the slam dunk people think it isif the CIA hands you definitive proof the americans faked the moon landing, your options are basically:>a) expose it and instantly reveal your intelligence capabilities/sources>b) quietly leverage the geopolitical blackmail forevercold war governments were absolutely deranged enough to play games like that
>>16975518no, that's what west taiwan will be used for. all the humans live on taiwan, west taiwan is just bugs.
>>16975559it's extremely wishful thinking at best for a theory that gets debunked in so many other ways anyway.we went to the moon, we have footage of it, everyone who's tried to disprove this has ended up making a fool out of themselves.
>>16975559>>b) quietly leverage the geopolitical blackmail foreverThe USSR collapsed though, if it was ever gonna come out that would've been the time.Moon landing deniers should simply be sterilized and forced out into the wilderness away from civilization.
>>16975556The Soviet and US governments were unironically working in cahoots by the midway point of the Cold War though. Cosmopolitan oligarchs and elites from both powers were able to massively expand their global control and influence under the guise of fake fighting and proxy wars. Dmitry Rogozin (head of Roscosmos) and other influential Russians did eventually imply that there was firm doubt but it just wasn’t expedient for them to publicly accuse the US of faking it at the time, for a variety of reasons.
>>16975564Also important to note that NASA and the Soviet space program were cooperating by the time of the Cold War, to a limited extent publicly and likely moreso privately. It could be justified that the academic/scientific elite in the Soviet space program would have actually wanted to affirm American space accomplishments to further justify receiving more of their own funding for their programs and efforts.
>>16975506Now we just need cost plus content to come back
>>16975454>>16975452>>16975455>>16975457The only failure of REL was being cursed with being British. If they started anywhere else they could get government gibs. But not there. If it was a french idea they would have subsidies. Same in the US, but under some make-work DARPA grant. You will note if you look at all the beautiful flags on Ariane 5 and 6, no UK flag. Because they don't contribute to launchers, and never have since ESA formed. Part of Conservative policy is the belief that if you can pay a foreign company less for something then there is no value in domestic production. They canceled Black Arrow after it started working, saying that they could buy American Scout launches for less. They canceled British participation in ELDO and the Europa rocket program. Thatcher's government canceled HOTOL. Never replacing it with something better, just gutting it. Didn't even have a space agency until 15 years ago, and it's basically a glorified funding council. It's a miracle Alan Bond kept the dream alive this long.
>>16975569Used to live within eyeshot of the National Space Center as a kid and was obsessed with space from a young age. Even as a small child I got the sense that walking those halls was one big humiliation ritual. The crown jewel of the entire place is an American Thor ICBM, not even a space rocket for gods sake. Also they have a whole wall glazing Richard Branson for Virgin Galactic, and to this day not a single letter on SpaceX.
Shartemis III to use a dummy boilerplate (will not be wasting that last ICPS) and will only be LEO, not a higher orbit.Mission will be longer than 9 days and will perform an upgraded heat shield demonstration—still no confirmation if SeX or BO will be providing a Lander for orbital testing at this point, or an Axiom suit.NASA wants to keep the launch date relatively fixed so if nothing is ready they are still launching without lander(s) or suits.Crew and launch date TBD soon
>>16975573what a fucking useless mission if all it ends up doing is popping up to LEO and coming back. What even is the point, in the event neither of the landers are ready?
>>16975574They have to use up an SLS rocket so that they can build another SLS rocket for the next flight.
>>16975573>will not be wasting that last ICPSBut I thought Centaur V was supposed to be ready?
>>16975576They won’t be able to sort that out in time for Artemis 3
Lol so they’re expending time and resources studying / tooling a custom one-off spacer (in lieu of ICPS) instead of just spending this time doing the same thing but with a Centaur V? Bravo
My god How are you fags still hating on artemis get over it they won we all enjoyed artemis 2They should replace orion with a dreamchaser tho
Orion could rendezvous with a Dragon, just for funsies. I mean if nothing else is going on…Run some simulated HLS software or something
>>16975590Orion-Dragon Hubble Reboost
Artemis is fucked imo. After this year's IPOs and fundraising the two major players will have so much money they won't care about NASA contracts.
we could use a big breaking rn
>>16975594Nah bro the people got teased too much they want to see people on the moon now
>>16975573>NASA wants to keep the launch date relatively fixed so if nothing is ready they are still launching without lander(s) or suits.But why? It would be pointless.
>>16975598Jared has autism about increasing SLS launch cadence and I think he’s just made up his mind that Space Launch System can’t sit and collect dust, come hell or high water.It doesn’t make sense but I think he is sick of all of these NASA facilities getting complacent with half-decade stretches of no work
Orion going to LEO with no real goal truly would be the cherry on top of this national embarrassment of a program.Ares I-X perhaps we were too harshly; you were 20 years ahead of the curve!
>>16975601>>16975599No i agree and its based, get them fucking working if they are slow as shit their punishment its to launch sls they gotta be always working
china won
>>16975574>>16975573>>16975575Blaming NASA for the private company fuckups. Next level mental gymnastics people.
stop giving contracts to charlatans then
>>16975609Because firefly or astra could totally get an entire HLS ready by 2029, right?
>>16975610Yeah
>>16975610ARCA could
>>16975302Isaac is just AI slop now. He ran out of material a long time ago
launch companies should stop being reliant on billionaires and government handouts. do some actual real business for a change.
>>16975619Its impossible
>>16975619Taking handouts is the business
>>16975620starlink is exactly that, even if musk is the epitome of the billionaireI have no idea about who would control spacex if he died but its business is more than sustainable, it could go on without any help.
musk is irreplaceable
>>16975627He is in fact precisely replaceable if “the light of consciousness” (his words) really just boils down to a machine that can artificial think and make managerial decisions really, really well
>"i am spaceflight"-elon, 2009
>>16975624Are you dumbfucked? It only worked cause he is a billonaire and was able to try multiple timesHow would a small company try any business without handouts? And if you already have the money from handouts why continue with rockets if you already have money which is a bussiness is aim at getting?Another thing is there isnt much you can do to gain money in space atm
>>16975633*which is what a business aims to get
some good shit today
I have PTSD regarding Starship launches. It wont be fixed until we see 10 launches in a row
>>16975633Also his parents were trillionaires that gave him all the money to try. Musk once joked that to become a billionaire, you have to start as a trillionaire. Musk is a fraud, he wasted trillion dollars from his family and became a billionaire.
>>16975638>Later this year, officials will simulate additional scenarios involving proliferated satellite constellations across different orbital regimes tactical orbital data centers
I am become meme- Pretty much, yeah.- E
jeez the comments on the space wargames article are appalling. its clear that not a single commentator read the article, and are only commenting on the headline.
Only 3 more years Elonbros
tick tocktwo days, muskratsbetter prepare your cope for when shartslip inevitably gets delayed until next month
>>16975658Yeah i think its a good timeline
>>16975656Were you born yesterday? It's a dead Internet, since 2016
>>16975661Shartship was delayed, the new launch date is 19 May, 10:30pm UTC.But I'm wondering if they're going to take that risk, the IPO being just a month away and all that.
>>16975661>>16975655>>16975632Do you need something?
>>16975638Neanderthals were pretty cool, yeah. A STR-INT built, as opposed to our DEX-INT.
>>16975668Can I have a double cheeseburger, fries, and a coke? thx
>>16975670Sir this is not a Wendy'sWe only have froyo
Sfg books?I recently learned there is a cold war era lockheed martin book and added to my tbr
>>16975604at wasting it's chance at being a superpower with wolf-warrior politics.
>>16975673Ignition!Rendezvous with RamaA book whose name currently escapes me at the moment but it’s about why casualties kind of need to happen if we ever want to be risky enough to push the envelopeEric Berger’s booksBeowulf, the Burton Raffel translation, which has nothing to do with spaceflight but is still so good - so add it to our colony bookshelf
>>16975679>Rendezvous with RamaEverybody always says this book is dry but I fucking loved it, the sequels suffer from the human drama introduced by the co-writer and the conclusion was meh. I prefer the mysteries left by the first book's ending, whatever I imagine is more interesting than what the writer came up with.
>>16975673the high frontier
>>16975673Obligatory.
>>16975682Ringworlds Children mogs it
>>16975673Carrying the FireThe BombChallenger: A Major Malfunction>>16975679what does he translate whale-road as?
>>16975707all terrible books by people who know nothing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kHxvJ8266ICRS-34 launching in T-40:00
>>16975709>weather only 20% favorable (rain and lightning)
https://x.com/NASA_Marshall/status/2054668817045864678>NASA's Artemis III mission will be a crewed flight in Earth orbit that will test rendezvous and docking capabilities between the agency’s Orion spacecraft and commercial landers from Blue Origin and SpaceX.>Instead of using the interim cryogenic propulsion stage as the upper stage of the SLS (Space Launch System) rocket for this mission, NASA will use a “spacer,” a representation of the mass and overall dimensions of an upper stage but without propulsive capabilities.>Design and fabrication activities for the spacer are progressing rapidly at NASA Marshall. Material for the barrel section and the upper and lower rings is currently being machined at our center in preparation for upcoming welding operations.
>>16975708what? Rhodes's book is excellent. Sorry I truncated it, if you were thinking of something else called the bomb
https://x.com/AndyLapsa/status/2054621144364511463
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real anons remember scrubtober
>>16975714>>16975715It will be interesting if Stoke's design works. Previously the common wisdom was you have to do a huge vehicle for full reusability to get the margins you need, but Stoke is opening the door to much smaller and cheaper projects that many more nations can afford.Their heatshield is also potentially interesting, although it seems like it will have oxidation issues like those metallic tiles SpaceX tested on Starship.
>>16975707Whale-road is translated simply as ‘the sea,’ so it substitutes some metaphors for literal meanings. Not sure if you approve of that or not but I first read beowulf back in high school through the notorious Heaneywulf translation with an autistic Oxford-educated teacher who broke down every single line of the book so I was already aware of the context. Also I love Tolkien but I find his translation too rough as he simply wanted to preserve the language itself at the cost of enjoyment>>16975716It never went away>>16975718Dual-purpose engined and heat shield asses should be spared from the sustained metallic heating issues SS experienced. At least, this is what others have said
>>16975710now %95! looks like they're threading the needleT-1m
HOLD HOLD HOLD NO GOSCRUB
>>16975718>Previously the common wisdom was you have to do a huge vehicle for full reusability to get the margins you needWhich is true.It's not like you can't get to orbit with a fully reusable rocket. Just that making it reusable absolutely murders your performance to the point where it's just not worth it. Stoke rocket will face this challenge. Lucky for them they arent SpaceX in 2008, Stoke may be able to keep afloat due to the abundance of very low earth orbit constellations being built out.
>>16975718Nova's a rocket that's lifting three tons to orbit while massing the same as expendable vehicles that are lifting eight. The rule for buying reusability by selling payload capacity is still in effect.
>>16975731And those are the most optimistic numbers possible for LEO and before they even assemble the vehicle. In reality they will struggle to get positive mass to orbit. Comiting to a fully reusable rocket straight out the box may prove to be their downfall. They really should have gone the SpaceX route and built their launcher expendable to get some money to fund the push to make it reusable.
>>16975633When Musk started SpaceX he had like 200mil, he wasn't a billionaire
>>16975735imagine what had happened if he didn't have a melty over re-writing PayPal to windows language or whatever
>>16975735With inflation that’s nearly a trillion dollars
>>16975729
https://x.com/planet4589/status/2054726453741150355>Unclear what is happening with the Varda Space W-4 reentry. The W-4 spacecraft made a manuever on May 10 to lower orbit from 284 x 835 km to 162 x 820 km. At the same time a new object, catalog 69094, was found in a 157 x 735 km orbit. Object 69094 (2025-135BX) based on TLE analysis appears to have come off W-4. It is probably too early to conclude it is the reentry vehicle, with a failed deorbit burn, but I look forward to an update from Varda Space.
>>16975299https://x.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/2054746883734606185>After hints and blurry photos and what seems to be an abort in March, it looks like LandSpace may well finally launch for their 1st time since their dramatic ZQ-3 1st flight - with a smaller non-recoverable rocket of theirs at the top of this hour.
>>16975743With Elmo having his guy in the white house you would think he would push for loosening of the rules around weather criteria, but I guess he forgot and was too busy burning all his political capital in DOGE while sperging out over stupid ragebait on x
>>16975767There are better things to spend political capital on than arguing with the LLCC criteria, and that easily includes Doge.
https://x.com/raz_liu/status/2054760647603442076>Lift-off footage of the ZQ-2E Y5
>>16975781I don't really care about China
>>16975703True
>>16975785
>>16975786ROFL, know your place bitch
Why would the lander need life support? Just go down already suited up
>>16975785>>16975786Unstoppable Force (Garver being an fence-sitting foid) vs Immovable Object (Jared’s autism to keep Artemis III no matter how in the trenches it is)
>>16975786>>16975787Must suck for her not being able to just run circles around Ballast Bill and Bridenstine anymore.
>>16975519
>>16975788>the empty evacuated hls lander IS the axiom suit test environmentDelightfully counterintuitive
>>16975792kek I was thinking of this image earlier but couldn’t find it
>>16975786read between the lines and this is pure cope
https://x.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/2054773636645408965>As it turns out this vastly different ZQ-2E w/ a further lengthened 1st stage didn't carry any payload - the launch at 03:00 UTC ultimately successfully placed a 2800 kg dummy payload to a 900 km high polar orbit (one used for some Chinese LEO comsat constellations).Ladies and Gentlemen, the ZQ-2E+
>>16975785>you're moving too slow! dates are getting pushed back! you promised launches and landings!>>16975791>you're moving too fast! deadlines are being met too frequently! you promised everything would be tested and 99.9% reliable before use! certain 'space' reporters are insufferable
https://x.com/raz_liu/status/2054773014299025770>Full launch video of Today's ZQ-2E Y5. via Land Space
>>16975806So it failed?
China W__
>>16975486Real ones know that this is actually bad news. United Therapeutics loves to do publicity stunt partnerships with startups that go nowhere. I work for a company that's been working with them on a hydrogen electric helicopter (allegedly for organ delivery or some shit) for like five years and it has gone absolutely nowhere. We don't even make the hardware they use in their helicopter anymore, it's all just legacy shit they pay us pennies to maintain every 18 months or so.
>Muh inceladus Fuck you we titan maxxing only
Umm, bros? What if they did the Lunar base together??
>>16975822No.
>>16975822It would be illegal for NASA, unless changes are made by congress.
golden dome will maintain 7,800 missiles in spacesounds like alot right?it doesnt matter cuz the system can only engage 10 fucking targets at the same timehttps://www.twz.com/space/7800-interceptors-in-space-at-core-of-1-2-trillion-golden-dome-cost-estimatewhat a shit show
>>16975828>30,000 satellites>300 to 500km orbit>5 year shelf life
was it autism?
>>16975828Anon, do you think all the interceptors will be in the same place at the same time? Or even on the same side of the planet? Anon, do you know what a MIRV is? Anon, how many warheads (and dummy warheads) are in any ICBM worth its salt?
>>16975701This phrase means a jew wrote it, btw
>>16975828You do realize that the real capabilities, performance, and quantities of the interceptors will never be public, right? Why do you choose to get upset over something like this?
Right now Jared(Jar Jar) Is(Islamic State)sacman is loved by /sfg/ and there is not really any hate against him but in the coming years he will be hated like Elon(felon) Musk(husk) because everything will be delayed again and again. At least Felon has practically infinite time to deliver his promises and will eventually do it but Jar Jar only has 3 more years and won't have a chance to deliver, his legacy reputation on /sfg/ won't be nice.
>>16975842but we don’t hate elon musk either, you’re living in your own little bubble.
>>16975828
>>16975845You just keep going on thinking that this is an unsolved problem.
>>16975741So it isn’t a trillion dollars at all and that was a lie, cool.
>>16975785This bitch would be defending artemis if it wasn’t run by isaacman lmao.
>>16975786This nigga absolutely destroys journalists.
musk absolutely destroys sfg
>>16975785This windbag has said enough over the last two decades. Quiet piggy
>>16975822He's trying to get China to stop arming Iran. All part of the millennium humiliation ritual.
>>16975828Why are you reading articles? It's always bs
>>16975864the article is going over a government report
sfg is ALIVE
If I check Zubrin's twitter right now, will the first post be about Mars, COVID, or Ukraine?
>>16975869based zigger hater.
>>16975828Golden Dome is now a battle between the sane people (Mark Kelly) and crazies (Anduril, Palantir etc)
wen launch?
>>16975711What. The. Fuck. They are just chucking 4 RS-25s into the ocean for... what?
>>16975869Covid outbreak on the ukrainian mars base
>>16975887because the lazy ass SLS manufacturers need a kick in the ass and need to be bullied into getting their cadence up. i don't care what they're used for, the excuses are over, launch SLS now as quickly and as often as possible.
>>16975895They're pumping out one core stage a year now.
Post yfw sls has a higher launch cadence than starship
>>16975986makes feel like you're an idiot
>>16975986>post yfw fantasy scenariowhy would i do that?
>>16975828>the system can only engage 10 fucking targets at the same timeFell for clickbait award again, that's not what CBO said.
according to nsf the stack shrinks when it's loadedhttps://youtu.be/6jo3dVY5zrI?t=181If that is true wouldn't that stress a lot the tiles attachment?
>>16975993Because it's fun. You'd know if you got your head out of elon's ass.
https://x.com/GewoonLukas_/status/2054900174380487132>ULA says they are beginning to stack the next Vulcan while the SRB investigation continues. This will be Amazon Leo LV-01, which will be the 1st with 6 SRB's & LEO Centaur V. Stacking will allow teams to perform tests & a WDR to be ready once the investigation ends.
>>16976027vulcan is alot smaller than i imagined
>>16975673name?
>>16976011v3 still looks like a hobby project
>>16975774Doge was useless and made Elon a ton of enemies for no reason. What his lolbertarian brain fundamentally fails to understand is that government spending is GOOD for the economy. That is why large scale war such as WW2 actually turbocharged the economy. People involved in the MIC are doing functionally useless jobs because tanks and guns do not change theprice of food and housing, yet still military spending helped the entire economy. Apollo for that matter was trememndously good for the economy, in part BECAUSE it was expensive. That expense went to well paid employees who then spent their money in the economy, lubricating the machine. The solution to government debt is to tax the people who the government actually owes the debt to, it's that simple. Lowering government expenditure in the real economy never helps, becuase when the goverment spends less then the population is poorer so the government raises less in tax revenues.TLDR an economy does not work the same as the finances of a small shop. Elon Musk should personally know this becuase he is quite familiar with the principal of spend more to make more
>>16976040Every single penny spent by the Government is money taken from the sectors of the economy that actually produce the value used to pay for government sector work. Every single thing the Government spends money on is someone else's labor being forced to stretch further to pay for something else. When World War 2 spending stopped, the entire economy dropped back to the status quo like it never happened. Years of extra tax revenue were needed to make bond payments for everything spent, and effectively speaking, it was a wash; they bolstered the economy in the short term to create a burden in the long term so they could procure equipment and train men and arm them to win the war. If that borrowing against the future is not paid off, all they achieve is massive inflation and devaluation of the currency.
>>16976027It’s time to just do a tri-core vulcan heavy.
>>16976043I agree that government is not a good decider of what to spend on, which is why it is lucky that it doesn't much matter what they spend on. If you want the currency to become stronger then the government could collect tax money and light it on fire, it would have a similar positive effect to spending on some random MIC project, except it would be deflationary.The reason it has a positive effect on the economy is a progressive tax system which increases the percentage taken the higher income you are. A free market is fundamentally unstable and collapses to monopoly just like the board game, because money attracts more money like how matter forms planets and stars. The government prevents economic collapse by skimming some money from above and watering the grass down below. Though I 100% agree that the way this is done is retarded and immoral whilst not even working well. The balancing function on the economy should be done by taxing wealth. The big issue is when someone has such wealth that their passive income from the wealth is greater than that of a person working hard. That breaks the economy and is what makes everything unaffordable. Government should remove taxes on income and introduce taxes on wealth, then all of a sudden we wouldnt have an economic depression every decade.
>>16976046Wealth taxes are just income taxes with extra steps. Houses are wealth. How do you pay off what the state says your property is worth every year? It's the kind of that that dissolves into feudalism because nobody can afford the costs of individual ownership. And population collapse will accelerate dramatically, as personal ownership is basically a requirement to starting a family. A bad tax scheme can destroy a civilization, and this would be a very bad tax scheme.
>>16976048Kind of thing that dissolves into feudalism*. It's also especially cruel to anyone who is no longer able to work or able to find employment, because the value of their assets is still due. When wealth is taxed, you do not get tax relief for being unemployed. It also prevents generational wealth buildup, denying people class mobility or the ability to advance with successive generations. All in all, it's the most regressive tax scheme imaginable.
>>16976048Obviously it should be a progressive tax like how income taxes are now. Most people are not net contributors in income tax. Likewise poorfags who own only one house will not be bled dry by a wealth tax. In fact, they would not be paying it at all.Wealth taxes are not income taxes with extra steps, because passive income is not counted as income when your passive income is in assets.We presently have a bad tax scheme, the exact thing thatwould dissolve into feudalism is one where it becomes impossible to move into the class of owners through hard work. If you allow unfettered wealth accumulation, which we are allowing, then every asset will become too expensive to own.
>>16976055If you've ever seen the history of tax policy, all taxes are spread to more and more people as the government's infinite capacity to tax and spend grows. The income tax used to only apply to the wealthiest 10% before it applied to absolutely everybody.
>>16976056I know. Nothing in this world is perfect but it doesn't mean we should give up and die. Mars would naturally become uninhabitable again if we terraformed it, should we give up? The world is a chaotic place and a constant struggle. Anything has the potential to be abused. Right now we have income tax which is objectively worse than wealth tax. Either can be abused, but the baseline we are working from is a tax system which allows unrestricted capital accumulation if you get rich enough. And that fucks everyone else. If you swapped out income tax for wealth tax then magically assets would become affordable because asset hoarders would have less incentive to hoard. I'm not claiming it is perfect or would be implimented perfectly, nothing ever is.
>>16975559The intel necessary to prove the Apollo landings were happening in real time consists of one radio receiver listening to the comms.>>16976058What will actually happen with a wealth tax is the most wealthy people will cash out and leave, the industries they run will contract/get less productive and worse, the people left behind will suffer as a result of fewer jobs and worse economy, and finally the government will begin expanding the definition of the wealth tax to less and less wealthy individuals in order to make up for shortfalls of expected tax revenue. This has happened every time a wealth tax is tried, it simply cannot function as intended. I'm all for wanting a better and more just world but wealth tax is absolutely not the way to accomplish that.
>>16976060>The intel necessary to prove the Apollo landings were happening in real time consists of one radio receiver listening to the comms.completely false. both the US and USSR had their own monitoring networks and the transmissions were picked up by numerous amateurs running their own antennas etc.
>>16976062>intelyoudo realise they are partnering with Musk right?
>>16976062Illiterate or ESL. Call it.
>>16976058There is no version or course of human events where a wealth tax ends well. It is not worth it to try, and is worth a great deal of effort to make sure it does not come to pass.
>>16976040DOGE gutted the democrats system for funding its foot soldiers
>>16975245>each iteration of Starship is getting increasingly NASA-fied in appearanceMake Greebles Great Again
>>16976068I think that's just the process of iterative refinement in action. The difference with SpaceX is that they start building long before they finish iterating.
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