>>33062894
This one is for the men out there
How hard is it for you guys to date a girl who is a little paranoid? I don't mean to the extent of going through your phone or anything like that, just someone who needs pretty much constant reassurance and explanations for things. How long would it take for that type of behavior to wear on you and cause an issue, or is it worth putting up with to have a relationship/pussy?

>>33062974
If it's just a little, I don't think it'd bother me that much. But in the long run it might sting that she doesn't trust me.

>>33062974
I've actually dated a girl like this and I was fine with it, we got along great otherwise and had similar hobbies. My limit was when she started to say I was cheating on her, and when I would tell her I wasn't and explain myself she'd just get mad and start saying "just admit it already, it's fine and I'll forgive you!" later on after we broke up I found out one chick that didn't like her was telling her I had sex with her and she believed it for some reason. To this day she still believes it.

As long as she's willing to hear you out and listen to you it's fine, it can even be good for a relationship in my opinion, but once she starts just accusing and not believing is when it gets grating.

>>33062974
It's sweet. Easy to abuse so A tier

>>33062974
I'm fine with it until it becomes "you're too biased, I don't trust you" because at that point it's over.

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i'd just like to know what female perception of me is.
last couple of years i lost quite a bit of weight, put on a bit of muscle, worked on how i carry myself.
recently i've begun to sometimes notice women looking at me (beyond just a normal glance), but i have no idea if it's because they think im attractive or im giving off a weird vibe or something. when i look in the mirror i still see the hideous slob i was 2 years ago.

>>33062974
Sounds like it would get annoying after some time, if after a year there hasn't been some noticeable improvement it would be pretty fuckin annoying

>>33062974
I don't think I'd mind that at all

>>33062974
>>33062995
What he said basically

>>33062974
Anyone who says they wouldn't mind it is either lying, unhinged, or has never had a serious relationship.

They're gonna be having the most extraordinarily shitty day, you're gonna accuse them of not loving you anymore because they're being distant, and you're gonna have a fight that ends with you two breaking up.

Go to therapy, work on yourself, get your shit together. If it isn't a big blow out fight, it'll be death by a thousand cuts because they'll start to resent that it's been X amount of time and you still don't trust them. No relationship is going to last if you need literally daily reassurance and are constantly questioning them.

For women: What’s your opinion on V-necks for men? Ick or shlick?

>>33063112
You're hot bro. Chad genetics.

>>33063112
bro you look good. practice your smile, be confident and you'll get girls!

>>33062894
What’s the deal with women who are into married men?

>>33063264
>>33063295
thanks lads

>>33063112
Woman here. You're attractive. It's possible you're giving off a weird vibe. If you are, you look attractive while doing it.

>>33063258
Shlick.

>>33063112
i think ur above average looking but a bit plain. i would change up ur hair and clothes to show off ur personality a bit. this is going off one pic tho

>>33063375

it’s exciting. the risk of getting caught, the self esteem boost of a man choosing u over someone else, getting to feel like ur irresistible to someone. being married means that there are things ab him that are desirable to someone and that makes him more valuable

>>33063375
It was hot when I was younger. Made me feel like I was desired and mature, slept with my boss when I was still in highschool and after a year realized it was just a way for him to get easy sex.

>>33062974
Have done it before and it was never that hard. If we get along, we support each other. Whatever — if it's a good relationship, it's very easy to accept and love someone with all their flaws involved

>>33063833
Post full face plz

>>33062894
For women: Why do you sometimes just suddenly stop talking to me without any explanation whatsoever? Like, at the very least, an explanation would be nice.

Men, how often do you feel the need to have sex/masturbate? Have you gotten less horny as you've gotten older?

>>33063874
About as often as I view sexual content or think about sexual topics (i.e. because they come up in conversation or something). It's not consistent. Sometimes it's near daily, but recently it's been every couple weeks at most.

>>33063874
>Men, how often do you feel the need to have sex/masturbate
Once a day, maybe twice. It's excessive and I'm trying to cut back. I don't really care about sex that much but I still have a strong desire for it.
>Have you gotten less horny as you've gotten older
I'm 26 and it's definitely not quite as bad as it was at 16.

>>33063874
Forgot to address the second question. It decreased somewhat from mid-teens into mid-twenties, but beyond that it doesn't seem to have changed much. I'm nearly 30 now.

>>33063112
Im a man but you have chadlite looks, jjst get leaner and jacked and you can be the lumberjack man that girls dream of.

>>33063874
I just do it out of habit once or twice a day really

Nto proud of it, but if i had a girlfriend would be probably still nutting in her twice a day

>>33063874
speaking solely on the latter, usually end up in a couple days spurt every month or so, saving myself sexually till I find someone serious

odd analogy but over time I feel like I got more love horny than horny for the sake of horny

>>33063874
Depends on how busy I am. If my brain is fully occupied I can go several days without it. Otherwise, daily at the minimum.
>Have you gotten less horny as you've gotten older?
On the contrary, I'd say more horny.

>>33063112
I personally, always admire men with nice hair. Yours is nice plus you look tall, and are handsome to me. You certainly have dad bod thing going on as well, some women are into that. You'd be way hot if you leaned out a bit with more muscles added.

>>33063112
you got a total lumberjack bod built for caring for my kids

>>33063258
I like metalheads so bandshirts lol
V necks seem douche mode to me.
>>33063375
I could never, marriage is a covenant in my eyes. Loyalty means a lot to me. I know some women that are addicted to being homewreckers out of vanity/narcissism. I work as an esthetician at a luxury spa, some clients rave about their personal lives too much and admit the wildest shit.
>>33063852
Ghosting is a strange thing. I think people that do it, just avoid conflict in general and the internet makes it that much easier. Some just have sooooo many people available, it's like men are commodities online. I've seen screens of thousands of replies, hundreds of messages, like so many men play the numbers game without considering the reality of what that looks like on the opposite end. Sorry that this has happened to you. I'm a boomer and think irl talking for dating is the best way.

Men, what do penises feel like? what do testicles feel like? what does it feel like to stick it in something? what does it feel like to touch them? what does it feel like to have a foreskin vs not having a foreskin?

>>33063874
I used to have the urge to constantly do it as a preteen and teenager, like two or three times a day, but I started missing a lot of stuff because I had the urge to jerk off instead. Now I'm in my early 20s and I try my best to not jerk off ever.

I feel like I've gotten less horny as I've gotten older, I don't get turned on nearly as much but I still get rock hard from kissing and seeing a woman acting cute in cute clothes.

>>33063995
>what do penises feel like?
It's sort of like a soft rubber. A little bit stretchy and elastic. The underside tends to be softer due to a spongy line of tissue that the urethra runs through. The glans also tends to be on the squishier side. Obviously it's all harder when erect.
>what do testicles feel like?
Alien. Scrotum is very baggy. Changes almost entirely in different weather; more saggy and loose in hot weather, more tight and wrinkly in cold weather. The testicles themselves are just smooth, soft eggs.
>what does it feel like to stick it in something?
Depends on what you're sticking it in. Friction feels good, so if it provides that and is decently lubricated, probably good.
>what does it feel like to touch them?
Not that different from touching the rest of my skin, other than being thinner and more elastic.
>what does it feel like to have a foreskin vs not having a foreskin?
How would I know? I imagine foreskin just makes it even baggier + stretchier.

>>33063874
I’m not less horny, but it is easier to masturbate less as you get older. I think this has to do with a lack of novelty rather than a lack of desire. Plus, masturbating takes more cleanup time than real sexy.

>>33063874
M
I jerk off daily
I used to jerk off like 5 times a day as a teenager
My max in a day is 18 times

>>33063258
The V neck is a no; it comes off as Euro-trashy.

>>33063375
I respect marriage and do not sleep nor am I interested in married men.

>>33063852
If it’s online women, don’t take it to heart. They probably found someone they were more interested in. It’s difficult to keep up many relationships, even if it’s only talking.

>>33062894
How do I get over knowing that a friend had a crush on me the same time I had a crush on them and I didn’t ask them out because I thought she didn’t like me like that? Idk if she still has a crush on me but we’re good friends and she’s talking about another guy she has a crush on to me

>>33062974
Depends how repetitive it gets.
If she's able to learn to see the patterns and start to figure out what the answer will be so she doesn't have to ask the questions, I'd keep her longer than if she's asking where I've been all day every time I get back from work.

>>33063874
>Men, how often do you feel the need to have sex/masturbate?
If I'm in a relationship, it will not work out if we fuck less often than weekly. If there are outside circumstances (e.g., LDR, we can only see each other once per month) this can be limped along (i.e. when we DO see each other it ends up that we fuck 4x/month), but it still won't work out.
Preferably we fuck 1-3x/day, but this isn't a "need".
Not in a relationship and not interested in being in a relationship, it has averaged about once/year that the urge becomes intrusive enough to put in the work to rustle up some strange.
Not in a relationship, but willing to entertain the possibility: after a month or so since the last time I bothered, I'll see what's available, but I won't necessarily be trying to sleep with whoever. I assume on a long enough dry spell it would end up being the same 1x/year as above, but it's never gone more than a few months before whatever girl wants to fuck badly enough to take initiative and see it through.
Jerkin' off: Variable, probably averages out to around 1/day.
>Have you gotten less horny as you've gotten older?
I've gotten less likely to act on it, but no.

>>33064136
>she’s talking about another guy she has a crush on to me
This is a Hard Sale tactic.
It makes you feel like your opportunity could slip away, so act now before it's too late!
To be clear: she's probably not doing it deliberately.
Stop friendzoning her.

>>33063874
>Men, how often do you feel the need to have sex/masturbate?
It varies, but that happens often because my dick has a life of its own sometimes and that's irritating. Because that makes me feel like something is wrong with me. Perhaps I just have a high libido, I have no idea.
>Have you gotten less horny as you've gotten older?
Not sure, honestly. Both yes and no? If anything, it feels more logical to become more horny as years go by since you get more exposure or experience. You know, like building up the appetite. At the same time, I won't say I gained some fetishes or something along those lines.
>>33064136
>How do I get over knowing that a friend had a crush on me the same time I had a crush on them and I didn’t ask them out because I thought she didn’t like me like that?
Just make peace with that. Sometimes you miss out your opportunity whenever it was mutual or not, that's part of life. A worthy learning experience for the future. Still, if you feel like, you can also take a leap of faith and come clean to her.
In that case, you would have to be ready for every outcome and that includes the end of your friendship.

Men, would you feel spurned if your partner turned down sex? Thanks for all the replies to my first question.

>>33064136
ASK HER OUT !!!!! She probably still likes you.

>>33064710
depends what reason she gave

Why do women match with me on Hinge then ghost me without ever sending a message? This has happened multiple times, do they just like collecting guys or something? Genuinely asking.

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moar leik u shuld be asking 2 join mai serber..heh..
https://discord.gg/khnrKmVC

>>33063112
You have nice facial features, healthy hair, and a kind smile. However, you'd be a lot more attractive if you lost weight. Men shouldn't be fat, it makes them look too feminine.

>>33064745
Long day at work, too tired.

>>33064823
They probably casually use it ... maybe don't have notifications turned on, and don't care too much about hooking up/finding relationships because they're busy with other things. You are stupid if you need this explained to you, I don't use Hinge and can assume this.

>>33064907
I wouldn't be posting here if I know how women work, sweetie.

>>33064911
I'm not a woman. It's just basic logic.

>>33064912
Maybe I'm taking it too seriously but it's just illogical to me, why match if you're not interested? The people who like you stay in your likes forever until you dismiss them, there's no point in opening DMs unless you want to chat.

>>33064921
They just do not care or think about it as much as you do.

>>33064923
Typical.

>>33064823
You must be so average and bland with your digital portrayal if this happens a lot. Women have so much variety with online dating, and only really engage with men that really intrigue them mentally and sexually. I personally have never and will never use dating apps/sites. I've seen too many women use it as just boredom killers, free meals, and general roster/harem fillers. Men shoot their shot and play the numbers game, and y'all just are so unaware of what that looks like on the receiving end. Human evolution and relationship psychology just doesn't work online imo. Yet the rare experiences of mutual chemistry and bonding is what makes lonely people keep trying. So either sludge through and keep at it by sheer desire to find your match. Or reject it entirely, pursue irl interactions. Good luck, dude.

>>33064710
If it's an occasional thing, it's fine, I might turn down sex sometimes too. If it's repeated and we never fuck, it's an issue

Girls, how do you see a 7 male?
An 8 male?
Is it like chad level or just ok bf lvl?

>>33065095
Really attractive guys like that, weird me tf out. Yeah, they're nice to admire and they make a 5/10 like me extremely anxious. But knowing that so many other women will be after him, and he can rightly choose any of them or all of them. Guess I would doubt their fidelity is what, couldn't be in a relationship with him. Loyalty and monogamy matters too much to me, personally.

>>33065128
But 7/10 is not that rare
Come on, have some faith in urself!

>>33065133
Lol I do, I'm just realistic with my face. I see a variety of men that are attractive to me in various rankings. Personality makes or breaks it, and commonalities with hobbies/interests also add to overall attraction. A 4/10 guy but he's smart/witty and a metalhead that likes the outdoors and everything culinary? I'd pick him over a 7/10 jock with low brow humor into pop/edm with hobbies that don't match mine. That sort of thing, is what I mean. Just my take.

>>33065128
This is so not true. Average or ugly men also cheat, plus they are probably at home looking at porn and gooning all day. So instead of an attractive guy having a few partners before you, the ugly dude is comparing you to hundreds of women every day, plus his dick is broken and he doesn't know how to please you. Work on your insecurity. The ugly and average guys won't treat you better (I've seen my friends go through some shit with ugly dudes thinking they'd be nicer, in fact, it's even more humiliating if he's ugly because you gave him a chance for nothing)

>>33065144
Maybe you are right. My issue is that I'm a 7-8 (got rated 8 in soc, 7.9 on photofeeler) and I have crippling social anxiety and agoraphobia.
and like i feel really uncomfortable with eomen to the piont of having a panic attack when they speak to me so knowing they are afraid of me more then i am comforts me little. Its just that i sometimes get the feeling they are laughing at me.

>>33064710
Not an issue unless it becomes a frequently recurring thing.

>>33065149 Sometimes when I ride the tram I see girls constantly glazing at me and giggling. Have you ever done it? What are they giggling about most likely?

Honestly I just want to know why women have become so purposefully disgusting. Over the past few years with the younger generation replacing the older one at retail jobs, I've started to encounter a lot of 18-30 year old girls who are doing the whole "natural" thing that happens every other generation, except it seems like they're trying to smell as bad as they possibly can and not bathe out of spite.

Please stop. I'm tired of holding my breath when I'm using the self checkout because you're watching over my shoulder. You have a 20 foot fucking aura around you of cigarettes, liquor and body odor that your co workers HAVE TOLD ME that other people have complained about but that it's not something you can be reprimanded for.

Wash yourself. Brush your teeth. Maybe wipe properly after using the toilet. I don't know what's wrong with these people only 10 years younger than me but girls you fucking reek and it's not my fault you're rebelling against the world telling you that you should maybe wear deodorant so that others around you aren't throwing up in the trash can on the way out of the store pretending they're hungover so you don't get your feelings hurt about your stench.

>>33065148
True for me and not for you, anecdotal relativity strikes again. It honestly takes a lot to make a guy genuinely ugly to me. He has to have a deformity and/or bad hygiene. A shitty personality and bad character will besmirch the looks of any hot guy as well. My personal experience with highly attractive men, is they have a history of infidelity/unstable relationships. Certainly a blanket statement, I'm fully aware. Just a bias I hold, always willing to set it aside and discover it doesn't apply. Just haven't had it happen yet.

>>33065149
You seem young, but building confidence is key to such an issue obviously. The usual ways can help. Therapy of various forms to solidify your self assurance. Not sure how you've forged your social and interpersonal skills, but if from strictly internet culture-you're in for a bad time.
>>33065163
Okay yeah, you're young. And adorable. Dude, they just think you're attractive and telling each other about it. It's a girl thing to be like that on public, point out cute guys and be nervous/silly about it. You're fine, yes I did this with girlfriends when I was younger.

>>33065195
Yikes. I honestly have only experienced this with people that are homeless or clearly struggling mentally. Do you live in a particularly progressive/liberal area with a high concentration of dirty feminists? Your experience sounds so oddly specific. I literally work in a luxury spa. Skincare, hygiene, and beauty are passions of mine. I seriously have no answer for you, I haven't net any woman that's like that. Only a few and they were dealing with extreme mental duress, amd needed help. Now some women sadly are entirely ignorant about hygiene, and need someone to gently explain to them what they're doing wrong and how maintain proper self-care. Also, just be honest about when people reek? I always kindly tell anyone if they're emitting funk, have their fly open, etc. Never understood why this is something people just internalize and walk away from. One guy with awful breath, I told and he popped in gum and said he was dealing with dental issues he couldn't afford to treat. I said no worries and sympathetic enough to mention the dental programs for lower incomes. Dental care can be a luxury for some people.

i left home at 16. I've been self sufficient since then. i am now 32. women generally for me have been a risk
>she could make up lies about me
>she could get me arrested
>she could try to ruin my reputation.
>she could walk out the door whenever she wanted (no security)
>she could try and steal something from me
>she could get me fired or homeless or lose money

Honestly, try and sell a relationship to me.
i've had sex, I've sorta had a relationship. so i know what its all about. but i dont really see an incentive. i see alot of risk, alot of costs. but no real incentives.

Can you sell a relationship to me?

>>33063771
>>33063779
>>33063991
>>33064130

Thanks for the replies. Ever since I got married and had kids I feel like a lot of my female coworkers hit on me now and it weirds me out.

>>33065336
No one will heal your trauma of a fucked up childhood or fix your avoidant attachment style. You encounter risks in every aspect of your existence, yet you manage just fine getting along because you're in control. You can not control another human being. You can not risk assess a woman's bonding to you with spreadsheets. You can not be talked into or sold anything you don't sincerely want. Relationships have pros and cons, and it's for you alone to sort out what you're willing to live with. Or live without.

Women: If you absolutely had to, in what way would you choose to prostitute yourself? I don't just mean hooking/escorting. I also mean porn, onlyfans, selling feet pics, being an intimate sugar baby for an old rich fat guy, becoming a stripper, anything like that.

Also, how much have you thought about it? The economy isn't doing too good. Have you made contingency plans to actually prostitute yourself in some way as an emergency fallback position?

>>33065364
It's a weird world man, stay true to your love. Enjoy the ego boost of being found attractive, but guard your morals with everything you got.

>>33065367
i dont really have any trauma tbf. i've managed to get over things over time. but yea, thank you for just proving my point i guess? or rather, just admitting you have nothing to offer.

>>33065387
Said what I said. It's so much easier to wear slippers than to carpet the world, huh? Oh and emotionally broken men are of no interest to me. Good luck with yourself, seems you need none really.

>>33065428
>Good luck with yourself, seems you need none really
only thing you've said that makes sense so far.

>>33065371
I enjoy my career and have financial security. No need for a contingency plan. On top of that, my hobbies include homesteading/survival skills. Would hope it's enough to truly endure roughing it whilst avoiding the exchange of sexual services for goods. Yeah, personally I couldn't do any sort of sex work. My sexuality needs intimacy/loyalty according to my moral barometer.

>>33064136
Oh I missed this one. I'm a firm believer in clear communication. Do just be upfront with yourself and her. You could analyze everything a billion times but just asking her is the only sure answer you'll get.

>>33064710
>Men, would you feel spurned if your partner turned down sex?
Probably not, but would likely depend on the circumstances.

>>33065371
Honestly, I've thought about starting an onlyfans but never go through with it in the end. It's been on my mind a lot though.

both men and women, where do you meet friends outside of these places, maybe in real life, especially if your school and or job is at home or with clients individually? how do you deal with having absolutely nobody but your mother and pets in your life?

>>33065522
Adult summer camp, a great option. There are even different themed camps, it's just so much fun. They're only a couple of days/a weekend or so. I feel like physically engaging activities are the best avenue to meet people. Team sports, charity events, etc. Social outreach events, art walks, art/craft workshops. Bar/pub event nights. Animal shelter volunteering, or any volunteer place that you're interested in. All just fantastic ways to get out there, and engage yourself with other people purely for platonic friendships and building up social skills. If hoping for dating, just let chemistry build up whenever it does.

>>33065538
thank you! i go to library classes and a dance class but everyone is older so i dont bond too much with them. i was volunteering but it ended for the summer. i want to try balancing volunteering again with a job and my online classes, maybe once a week is enough?

>>33065564
Whatever you can mange, yeah you're gonna find older folks with lots of free time or underage folks needing service hours mostly. It depends on your region and demographic. More fish in a bigger pond, after all. Any local based forums maybe, or groups of your particular interests might be a thing to navigate. Hope you get out more and meet people.

>>33064921
I don't bother to read anyone's profile unless we "match". Then after reading their profile I'm not interested in messaging them or will unmatch them (depending on app).
If you have good photos and a bad profile, this is probably what's happening.

>>33065148
>This is so not true. Average or ugly men also cheat
This is in part because A LOT of women have that "a hot guy will cheat on me, an average guy is a safer bet" mentality, and so an average guy has just as many, if not more, women flirting with him as a hot guy.

This is for girls.

What are you guys attracted to? I'm clueless when it comes to picking up women. Every girl I've dated or hooked up with was already attracted to me. Every time I try to attract a girl they immediately friend zone me or ghost me.

I've asked guys who are good with women how they do it but they never explain it

I am tired of being stuck with only the women who are choosing me because frankly I'm not into nearly all of them. Very rarely do I find the girl who's attracted to me attractive.

So what do ladies? Guys who turn you on, what is it they are doing that you find attractive?

>>33065787
only an idiot would believe that all women are attracted to the same type of man

ask your real life female friends that, not those of us on 4chan

>>33065787
This can't be generalized at all, dude. Attraction is a multifaceted ordeal. You'll going about this too broadly, break down exactly what you're struggling with here. What's your personality, lifestyle, and physical appearance like? Describe the same of the women you're attracted to yet friendzone you. Also explain the same parameters of the women you do attract but aren't attracted to. Honestly, just from your post it seems you lack natural charisma and basic interpersonal skills.

>>33065825
>only an idiot would believe that all women are attracted to the same type of man
I never said that and I'm not sure what made you think that's what I was saying. As a man there are universal things men find attractive about females. Whenever women are attracted to me I have no idea why and as I said I typically don't find those girls attractive. I'm just trying to figure out how to make the women in to attracted to me because approaching them and talking to them isn't working.
>>33065835
>Honestly, just from your post it seems you lack natural charisma and basic interpersonal skills.
Possible. But I'm not some lame autistic. I approach/treat everyone roughly the same. Obviously there are nuances from person to person but I don't talk to the girls I'm attracted to any different than the ones I'm not attracted to. I've been told I'm attractive but apparently being physically attractive as a man isn't enough to get laid because it's been years for me. I eat healthy and hit the gym regularly, I'm no body builder but I'm in decent shape. When I'm talking to girls I like is like there waiting for me to do it say something but I have no idea what that is, either that or they are very dismissive and want nothing to do with me.

Ive had friends who were super good with women, guys that had a different girl almost every night. I've asked them how they attract all these girls and they never explained it.
It's like they know but they don't really understand what they're doing because it's second nature to them so they don't really know how to explain it, or they do know and just don't want to share

>>33065910
>When I'm talking to girls I like is like there waiting for me to do it say something but I have no idea what that is, either that or they are very dismissive and want nothing to do with me.

Should have said

>When I'm talking to girls I like its like they're waiting for me to do or say something but I have no idea what that is, either that or they are very dismissive and want nothing to do with me.

>>33065825
>ask your real life female friends that
Why would I want female friends? I've had female friends in the past and they all sucked

>>33065910
>>33065914
>>33065923
Good sir, you are severely autistic.
If not in the text book sense, then in the 4chan/chroniclly online sense.
Holy shit.
>captcha:y0wza

>>33065930
Explain

>>33064710
Once in a while, not at all. Also, if she has some kind of health issue that lasts a couple weeks or something like that I could understand that as well. But if she keeps turning it down for reasons like "I'm tired" or "I don't feel like it" or something like that over an extended period of time, that wouldn't feel good and I'd want to sit down and talk about it with her.

>>33065957
Hun, you admit to lacking self awareness. You really don't know why women would be attracted to you? You portray your interactions as if you have to type in code ro achieve desired results. You can't pick up on their cues during interactions. I can't tell you what exactly because I'd have to be there physically. You're overall just describing everything like a horny 15 year old. Maybe you're also just emotionally immature? Other men can perceive these things naturally, isn't like they are keeping secrets to get pussy away from you. They just have respectful and functioning interpersonal skills with people. Women are people, and people like kindness and respect at first, before even considering fuckability. You must ooze desperation, or are coming off to strong. Your less desirables, they can tell you're clueless so you're an easy mark for them to get attention/interaction. Please learn about socializing/interpersonal skills in psychology resources, and not with any manosphere types/pickup artists. I'd help more if I could, but you're too vague here with what exactly is going on.

>>33065978
I asked what women find attractive in men and you go on about how I'm autistic and immature. This is the problem. People act like it's so easy to attract women on one hand and immediately turn around and resort to insulting me when I ask them to explain how.
Fuck you, I don't know if you're a female but you sure sound like one of those stupid bitches that act like you have all the answers to all the worlds problems yet you can't even answer a simple question.

>>33066007
Good luck kiddo

>>33066007
Your first mistake was asking women how to attract them. This is something they will never explain, maybe it's intentional or they simply don't know idk.
But to answer your question its how you make them feel.
Those women who were attracted to you probably thought you were cute, sure but you were most likely giving them some kind of emotional spike you weren't aware of. It is easier to give a woman an emotional spike when you are physically attractive or have some type of social proof. If you're fit and handsome you at least can get your foot in the door but relying on your looks as a man will only get you so far. If she finds you attractive but you're super needy or come off as some creepy guy she will be turned off.
You need to offer women the only value they truly perceive from men which is how we make them feel.
If she feels safe around you and you can offer her a bunch of good vibes without needing her to be around you there's a pretty good chance she'll sleep with you. Some women are attracted to negative emotions, I would personally avoid these types of girls because they're more trouble than they're worth. Take some time figuring out how to give girls good vibes/emotions without seeming needy and mix in a few negative ones here and there.
This is most likely what those players you were talking about were doing

>>33066155
Anon? You are aware this board has IDs, right?

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>>33065522
>both men and women, where do you meet friends outside of these places, maybe in real life, especially if your school and or job is at home or with clients individually?
Nowhere. All new friends I met in the last few years come solely from Internet. There were moments where I had some socializing moments during the time when I was doing side jobs outside, but it didn't turn into proper friendships.
And I don't view that as necessarily a bad thing. Just a result of current circumstances and it works for me since people I talk to are awesome.
>>33066155
>>33066241
LOL

>>33066155
Based schizo retard replying to himself

>>33065522
I joined some support groups to help me with some of my issues, and I've met a lot of people I never would've interacted with otherwise. There's also usually some social clubs and community events in your area you can attend to meet new people, I hear they're good places too.

>>33064710
Women these days love marrying men they're not attracted to and using their immense social influence to give them orders and sexually frustrate them. Any woman who does this isn't going to gently ask if she can be spared of the effort, it will be an emphatic "no, no sex for you."

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Anon who's been talking about his ex for the last few threads:
Just wanted to say that I went to a therapy session last night and even though it was just one, it really helped. He couldn't fit me in for next week, but I have a second session in 2 weeks on the 2nd, but if he gets a cancelation, he could get me in earlier.

>>33067101
Hope you can continue getting that help anon, best of luck and keep at it!

i have a question for the ladies, is it possible for you to edge when it comes to masturbating? I've (m) been having fun but not too much fun with edging and i got curious

>>33067108
Thanks. Now, I do have a question. Been talking with this girl for over a month. She's out of state for college but is from my state. We call and play vidya a lot. We ere in a phone call last night and I was laying in bed and wound up falling asleep at like, maybe 3:30am. The call seems to have went for another 2 hours or so. To like 5am ish. Was that a bad move on my part? I didn't mean to fall asleep, I just dozed off. She doesn't seem upset or anything by it tho.

>>33067113
Oh yeah for sure, and I really enjoy doing it most times.

>>33067124
Nah, I wouldn't consider it a bad move at all. It happens, and I think a lot of women I know would find it cute.

>>33067113
Well edging is more or less the point of tantric sexuality. It's all about the sensations before climax and extending that in itself as pleasure. (Enlightenment, if you're into the spirituality of it all) Worth digging into if you're into techniques for your self or with a partner.
Personally, I have two sorts of orgasms. There's the quick rush relief of just clitoral stimulation. This happens when I'm already aroused (soaked/holes twitching/hard nipples) due to ovulation week. Or I get into this arousal state when I need help falling asleep. I don't use toys/insertion. I prefer that sensation/gspot stimulation when I'm physically with a man. That, is a different sort of orgasm. They're more sustained, multiple, intense. Full body rather than just lower body tremors. Edging included, yes it's all much fun for either type of orgasm.

where is like "the limit" to where you realise you cannot fix someone.

that goes out to either gender.
but when answering the question. please state your gender first.
thank yew

To women who like when guys cold approach them: What’s the best cold approach encounter you’ve had? What was the guy like, what did he say, and were you initially attracted to him before the approach?

>>33063991
>I work as an esthetician at a luxury spa, some clients rave about their personal lives too much and admit the wildest shit.
That seems quite the interesting profession. Do you give your partners facials?

I wanna show my body to women online at their request anonymously. The part that gets me off is getting complimented/obsessed over.
I am not really good looking (7/10, 6'2, 21BMI, lots of moles + some stretch marks)
I heard yellow fever is a two-sided thing so I have a question to asian women here - would you enjoy that type of parasocial dynamics or does it come off as rather predatory to you?

>>33062894
Women,
Are small hands a turn off?

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Women, are the piercing scars a turn off?
Are bitten nails like this a turn off?

>>33067490
Piercing scars on a dick, I mean.

what makes men so extreme, violent, and unhinged sexually? men have told me they want to do borderline illegal things to me at the slightest provocation several times and it’s confusing because they genuinely think i’m going to match their energy.

for example i’ll say im into degradation and they’ll say they want to tie me up, piss on me, in front of a crowd of people. why do they think that will turn me on if i haven’t mentioned anything to that extent (and haven’t mentioned pee, bondage, or public humiliation specifically)? why does the idea of doing that to someone even with consent turn them on?

and obviously you might say its because theyre on 4chan but i’ve experienced and witnessed this in other places less depraved and sexually charged where men have anonymity. i’m also bi and have never experienced this with a woman.

Why does a large number of adult women in their 20s sleep with stuffed animals?

>>33067587
bc they are family

>>33067582
It's because a lot of men are shit at being normal when it comes to sex and come off too strong many times. This is either due to a lack of sexual experience, or previous experience made them think this was an ok thing to do and wasn't told not all submissive women are into the same things.

I don't use 4chan so this is coming from a normie. Hope this helped explain :)

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What does it mean when a girl sends you a pic and asks, "Should I post this?"

For the /adv/ atoga that wanted to hear me
you'll be disappointed, probably

voca.ro/140Pwa5hOvbVa

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For girls, do u prefer guys who text like a zoomer or guys who just text in a more idk i guess a mature style of typing aka capitalization, periods, not shortening words? Got told I text like a 27+ year old and that since im 24 i should be texting with emojis and using zoomer slang by 3 different girls. I guess I don't mind dumbing down the way I type but i dont know its hard to like not text or type in a more proper manner. I've always had a bit of pride in the way I text since my friends growing up would always have typos or would be very lazy with how they typed. I have a bit of tism so maybe im just overthinking this all like usual.

>>33062894
Is it weird for a 17 year old to date a 21 year old?

>>33062894
Not related to my previous post but there was this coworker that I wanted to fuck so bad. She was like 5‘0 tall and 90 lbs with nice hips and boobs. She was a goth girl with short dyed hair. I miss her since she left

>>33067127
>>33067150
Wish i could have a nice, long edging session with a lady one day, online or irl i have no preference really

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>>33063258
>What’s your opinion on V-necks for men? Ick or shlick?
It really depends on the guy, but generally ick.

>>33063375
>What’s the deal with women who are into married men?
Married men are good enough to marry.

>>33065095
>Girls, how do you see a 7 male?
7 is objectively above average. 8 is very attractive, but less than 10% of men are 8 or higher. I don't subscribe to the Chad ideology because I think most of those guys are unattractive.

>>33065371
>in what way would you choose to prostitute yourself?
Stripping would be easiest for me, since I love to dance, but I wouldn't be very good in a 1-on-1 setting. Porn/OF would also be easy, since I fill a niche and would have a say in who I work with.
>how much have you thought about it?
I thought about it years ago, when OF started booming. Especially since there was a porn star that looked a lot like me that was making a lot of money. The market is too saturated now for me to even consider it, though.

>>33067113
>is it possible for you to edge when it comes to masturbating?
Yes, and it makes the orgasm extremely intense. When I was on antidepressants, I could go for hours before finally cumming.

>>33067490
WTF is up with your thumb?

>>33067816
>do u prefer guys who text like a zoomer or guys who just text in a more idk i guess a mature style of typing aka capitalization, periods, not shortening words?
Just don't text like you're still using a Nokia.
"lol u r so fnny rofl"

>>33068213
>Is it weird for a 17 year old to date a 21 year old?
No, though maturity should definitely be considered for both.

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>>33068743
>WTF is with your thumb
You think the nail is too small too?

>>33063082
>>33063152
This.

>>33063112
Looking good, Broseidon. How often are you in the gym?

>>33063375
Mate-choice copying.

>>33063852
>without any explanation whatsoever? Like, at the very least, an explanation would be nice
Not as nice as you think, considering the explanation is almost always as simple as "I'm just not feeling any attraction to you whatsoever" and/or "I met someone else who I perceive as being more desirable and superior to you in every way I value." Ghosting is a shitty thing to do, but people do it, myself included, because as shitty as it may be the alternative almost never goes well. It's even worse for women. Worse as in, I know women who get thousands of likes/messages/DMs in a week.

It's not personal, there's just only so many hours in the day.

>>33063874
In general I prefer sex about every other day, sometimes more. If I'm in a relationship and we're having sex less than twice a week I'm going to have an issue with it. I haven't masturbated in over a decade.

>>33064710
If it's an occasional thing, I don't really read into it; I also have days where I just want to relax and decompress and have zero interest in sex. Same goes for if she's dealing with a medical issue or suffered a loss; when my ex's dad died I didn't bring up sex until she did. What would concern me is a pattern of rejection; if I don't think you're attracted to me, I have to consider and explore other reasons you might have for being with me, and that usually ends with me ending the relationship.

>>33064823
I touched on this earlier in this post. Look into the 80/20 rule, and consider than men vastly outnumber women on dating apps; on hinge it's 3/1, on tinder it's *9/1*. It's not personal, it's not a failing on their part; they are overwhelmed with options.

Really, all you can do is refine your profile and presentation to stand out more. Better pictures, better vids, better hooks. Be genuine and unafraid.

>>33069106
>Looking good, Broseidon. How often are you in the gym?
never. i work in farming. moving around 20kg bags of feed daily.
im curious to get in a gym and find out how much i can squat though.

>>33065336
From a purely logical standpoint, if you don't want to have kids, if you don't feel the need or desire for a long-term partner, there's really no reason for you to pursue anything more meaningful than a FWB or trophy girlfriend sort of arrangement, and if that's the case, if that's who you are, that's perfectly fine. I definitely empathize; the reason for most of my break-ups, and why I avoid cohabitation can be neatly summed up by Patrice O'Neal's "ain't that better" bit. I just kind of get bored with people, as awful as that must sound, and I haven't met anyone I want to have kids with yet.

Having said all of that, if you do want kids, if you do want a family, and your issue is "well how do I justify the risk" the short answer is you don't, really. There's no completely safe way to proceed with marriage anymore. You get to know a girl, observe who she is, how she reacts to things, particularly adversity, you assess whether your values, plans, and behaviors are compatible, and then you decide whether or not to make a calculated risk.

Dating is like anything, it should be done with a purpose. The "dating" and "in a relationship" phases aren't just for fun and enjoying the bliss of being in love, they're for vetting and assessing whether or not a given woman is wife material.

>>33065517
Don't do it, you can't put a price on self-respect, and it's an oversaturated market. The average OnlyFans account earns less than $500 a year. There are no shortcuts to anything worth having in life. You'd likely earn far more, and find vastly more fulfillment in starting a YT channel making videos on something you're passionate about. Treat it as a hobby, drop at least one video a week to start, engage with your audience as it grows, and give a year.

Also if you haven't, learn how stocks work, open a brokerage account and start investing. That remains the best way to make money long-term.

>>33066241
>>33066007
>>33066155
OH NO

>>33067582
Testosterone, mostly.

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>>33062894

To women who enjoy dick: what do you enjoy about is specifically?

It's been something of an enigma why the human penis has evolved to be the way it is, and we cannot rule out the effect of female preferance on it.

>>33067587
Because prolonged adolescence is encouraged in women, and a lot of them have this weird tendency to self-infantilize.

>>33068743
>sparkling water
Venus, I kneel.

>>33069116
Nice. If you added two or three days a week of incline presses, lateral raises, overhead presses, bicep curls (all with dumbbells) and pull-ups, within a year you'd be MOGGING the majority of men. Seriously consider investing in an adjustable bench and a dumbbell set.

What's your bare minimum criteria to date a guy?
Let's say he is really tall and handsome but jobless.
Or on the contrary, ugly but rich.

>>33068743
but i dont text like i have a nokia i just type....well idk how i type but im just told i type like a 30+ yr old

>>33069147
The smell, the stretch, the perfect ratio of hardness to flexibility during penetration.

>>33069143
>Also if you haven't, learn how stocks work, open a brokerage account and start investing. That remains the best way to make money long-term.
NTA, but can you recommend any good channels or books on this topic? Currently reading a book about index funds and I have a few Khan Academy playlists saved, but wanted to know if I’m missing anything.

>>33069783
What does it smell like? The world stench makes me think it's a strong smell too?

>>33068743
>7 is objectively above average. 8 is very attractive, but less than 10% of men are 8 or higher. I don't subscribe to the Chad ideology because I think most of those guys are unattractive.
Sorry, femanon, I'm a brainlet. But wouldn't 8/10 and above be the top 20%?

>>33070667
Smells like normal healthy man smell but cranked up to 11, I guess.
And I said stretch, not stench. As in the feeling of a dick during penetration stretches me out the perfect amount, compared to fingering or toys.

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>>33068756
No, it shouldn't be even with your fingers like that. That's so disturbing.

>>33069147
>To women who enjoy dick: what do you enjoy about is specifically?
I like that it's warm, hard, and phallic-shaped. Not much else to it. And the evolutionary aspect is the head is shaped to act as a plunger for other men's sperm.

>>33069172
>What's your bare minimum criteria to date a guy?
Be in shape, be good looking, have something you're passionate about, be funny, and be good in bed. I couldn't give a shit about anything else.

>>33070434
>NTA, but can you recommend any good channels or books on this topic?
Two books by Peter Lynch really stand out as fundamentals. Beating the Street and One Up on Wall Street.

There's also Common Stocks and Uncommon Profits by Philip A. Fisher and The Most Important Thing by Howard Marks.

>>33070672
>Sorry, femanon, I'm a brainlet. But wouldn't 8/10 and above be the top 20%?
No, it works like a bell curve. About 60% of people would fall into the average or 4-6/10 area.
Picrel

>>33070434
>books
I have to second the other anon's recommendation for Common Stocks and Uncommon Profits; the ideas therein are foundational to how I approach investing. I also recommend The Little Book of Common Sense Investing by John C. Bogle, The Intelligent Investor by Ben Graham, and Fred Schwed's Where are the Customers' Yachts?
>channels
I like Ticker Symbol: YOU, and I REALLY like Humphrey Yang.

My biggest piece of advice for you would be to be mindful of where things are going. Sure reading the journal and the Motley Fool is a good start, but don't undervalue just listening to what people are talking about, and paying attention to what people are doing, what they want, what demands are being created and who is poised to supply those demands. For what it's worth, right now I'm very interested in Palantir.

My two biggest winners of the past decade are I went all-in on NVIDIA and fucking Chiptole. NVIDIA is self-explanatory, there were rumblings about the rise of AI and I paid attention. Chipotle? I just noticed zoomers and millenials were constantly talking about it, did my research on the company, liked what I saw, and said "fuck it, I'll buy a few hundred shares."

Of course, I'm mostly talking in terms of profiting in a big way off Capital Appreciation. If we're talking building a passive income stream off of dividends, my top five recommendations are Procter and Gamble, Conagra, Coca-Cola, PepsiCo, and Pfizer.

Sorry if all that was a bit stream-of-consciousness, but I hope you get some value out of it, and remember, when in doubt, HODL.

>>33062974
sounds like a hassle, but the issue is not being paranoid, completely no. the issue is not being attractive.
>>33063874
>Men, how often do you feel the need to have masturbate?
It is a complex decision, on one hand doing that enrages me to no end, because i'd be just lusting over something that doesn't exist / doesn't give a shit about me, so it's a bit like alcohol.
Right now I'll try to abstain from jerking off, because it really is an annoying PoS to crawl on the floor for someone who doesn't give a shit about you
>>33064710
>would you feel spurned if your partner turned down sex?
fuck you
>>33067582
>what makes men so extreme, violent, and unhinged sexually?
well it's a load of shit really, personally i've been rejected in the most annoying ways possible (blocking without explanation, ghosting), even though I wanted for things to work out.
>why does the idea of doing that to someone even with consent turn them on?
i doubt it's a turn on thing, more like a "lashing out and releasing stress" thing
>>33071060
>be good in bed
kill yourself

>>33071060
Thank you

>>33069147
Uh, it feels good? The ridges and veins are nice. Also the warmth

>>33067582
Often times men are trying to one up one another.
So when you say you like degradation, they will think of fucked up shit instead calling you daddys little slut.

>chatting with this shortstack on ig
>She asked me about something really intimate oit of the blue
>I said im surprised she trusted me in this intimate matter
>She said "because you are the older guy"
Yes it was sexual stuff.

Does she want to bang?
Im extremely attracted to her and afaik shes single and horny.

>>33072033
What was the thing? My first answer would be yes, or at least she thinks she want to right now

>>33072034
She lives with parents and her parent found a bag with her sex toys (yes, multiple) on her bed
And she was bummed about it and gotten silent treatment from parents because they are very conservative.

Before you say anything, shes 22

>>33071060
>No, it shouldn't be even with your fingers like that. That's so disturbing.
What do u mean?

>>33072028.if you say me "degrade me" I expect you to swallow

>>33071060
>>33071186
Thanks anons. Appreciate it.

>>33065517
I think you missed the boat on that one. We're headed in the direction of AI porn.

>>33062894
What are good sex positions and ways to seem dominant with a woman 4-5 inches taller than me?

>>33072770
Put her on her knees and make her bend her back + pull hair +bandage on hands

>>33064710
Like others have said, depends on the circumstances. There's not going to be a blanket, simple Yes or No to this question.
The easiest way to answer your question is; try to imagine yourself in that scenario. What would it take for you to feel spurned? What other conditions would be required? Would you worry that they were cheating or drifting away from you if they were barely ever down to fuck? Or if it felt like they weren't really into it during the act, and were just doing it to appease you?

As for a full answer from my perspective as a man:
Really, it depends on how that turning down is viewed by them, and what their emotional reaction to it is. Which is built on a variety of factors, but comes down to; why does he believe he was turned down? Does he have problems processing rejection, and managing the emotions that come with it? Does he view the fact that his partner doesn't want to have sex with him as a personal failing on his part? Perhaps even that he is not worthy of love? And how well does he deal with personal failings, especially in sensitive areas like sex? (Look up "Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria" and "Rejection Sensitivity")
Or, does he believe that it's simply a case of you not feeling up to it at the time. And it's nothing personal, and he hasn't failed in any way? And even if there's something he could be doing differently, he believes it's well within his ability to do so?

Sex and physical intimacy can be a significant part of people's love language. A partner turning down sex or cuddling can feel like them turning down your love, or even withholding love from you. Not wanting to receive or give it.
As others have said, if it's a constant and repeated thing, and you never want to have sex when he suggests it, or you never initiate. Then negativity, bitterness, and suspicion can sprout from that.

>>33073557
cont.

So, a simple way to ward against this is to initiate, and proposition him for sex some times. Put yourself in the position where he has the option to turn you down. While at the same time demonstrating to him that he is desirable to you, and worthy of love. Both receiving, and giving. Even if he's not up to it at the time, and turns down the offer, just that little bit of validation will go a long way, and reassure him. (But don't proposition him for sex if you actually don't want it. It'll just be awkward for both of you if he takes you up on the offer. And he'll be able to feel something is off. Also, be ready and willing to accept no for an answer yourself, lol).
And also, it may help to let him know that his sexual desire/attraction to you is not a nuisance or troublesome. Not in and of itself, at least.
This almost goes without saying, but just so I'm clear; you shouldn't have sex if you don't actually want to, at all. Nor should someone expect sex, or even physical contact from another person whenever they want, and also be the only one allowed to refuse it.

And never underestimate the power of an open and honest conversation. A lot goes unsaid, or is believed to be understood without the need for being put into words, discussion, or elaboration. Pop the lid every once in a while to see what's going on underneath. And if the messages you hoped were sent were received, if they weren't at all, or if they got mangled on the way.
The way he expresses his feelings might come out as crude, and unprocessed. But stick with it a little, try to imagine yourself in his shoes, and you should be able to find something to work with. And hopefully even help him learn ways to process his emotions. But that's a whole other discussion, lol.

Do the men in the cock rate threads know they're all gay?

Why do the men here freak out when you politely refuse and unadd them due to a lack of compatibility?

>>33073907
I don't have enough information on the cock threads, I don't go there

Depending where you post on here, men are practically desperate to get some nudes or sext with a female, emotional attachment yadda yadda. Not all of us are like that to be clear, I just expect it to be hard to find one that's not entitled and desperate

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>>33069172
Kinky in a compatible way, similar interests, makes me piss myself laughing, capable of providing if things get serious, has been through some shit, empathy.
I'm not much for the conventional standard of attractiveness and prefer them at least a little weird looking so I won't even weigh in on the other part of the question.
>>33067816
Somewhere in the middle. The constant text typing and no capitalization grosses me out. Especially the overuse of emojis. I'm technically a zoomer but the thing I've just described makes me feel like I'm talking to a literal child.
>>33067705
She wants your opinion?
>>33067587
I don't know. I do not. I just have many, many pillows.
>>33067490
No, but I prefer piercings. Your nails aren't that bad but if it got worse it could be gross.
>>33067167
He just asked if I wanted another drink. Which I did. I hadn't noticed him there at all previously but we spent the rest of the night hanging out.
>>33067113
Yes. Silly.
>>33065760
Horrible strategy frankly.
>>33065769
And this ends up being untrue. The uglier ones always cheat and then they make it out with a brand new personality/taste that you gave them.
>>33065522
Bars. Shows. Clubs. Concerts. Events.
>>33065371
Feet. I don't have to pretend to like them, show them the intimate parts of my body, or sleep with them.
>>33065336
No. Fun exercise, here's our risk:
>We get raped, beaten and or murdered
And then also most of the things you listed.
>>33064823
You're supposed to message first. I don't make the rules.


Alright that feels like enough answered. I hope we get some more fun ones later. I am very bored.

>>33073914
Oh, don't worry, I know you're not all like that. The board just seems slammed with those types lately. It makes one not want to bother.

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Why do 80% of you girls on discord set your status to "Away"? I genuinely don't understand why you do this. Is it to just play dumb when someone messages you and just ignore them? Cause if you talk to the same person for a long time they're gonna realize you're just online especially if you have a motto set on your profile. Just feels very selfish imo

>>33073907
Niggas here are desperate. Internet in general, but 4chan in particular attracts the extremes, meaning it's either wizards who've stopped giving a fuck, or the most desperate fags.

I have a relatively thriving social life in real life and don't rely on 4chan for my social interactions other than for people to shout nigger at. I only use this accursed site for /fit/ and /biz/ before the jannies shut the latter down, and I'm on this board for vacation to take a peek.

Aforementioned desperados here are like redditards and tinder thirstsimps but on roids. Imagine the average man getting near 0 female attention. And then make it your below average female interaction man who maybe talks to a woman in a non-work/transactional way once a year. You'd go nuts when you think your big break is coming but it doesn't work out too.

Question for all the women: Where do women like you hang out in real life? I've been unironically taking a break from non-work stuff due to personal circumstances with health and am now looking to get back into getting /fit/ and dating. I want to date a 4chan-esqe girl but I'm not going to waste my time spending any more time on this board than I have to. I do volunteering/clubs/dating apps and have decent success from those, but most of those places are filled with normies. Uni was a bit easier given sheer numbers, but I'm not there anymore.

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objectively how fucked are my choppers

>>33074222
Moon looks pretty. Literally that is all.
>>33074279
Laughed.
Anyway for your question:
Bars, clubs, shows, etc.
But I'm like you in the sense that I touch grass.

>>33074502
Probably to call them maladjusted rather than "on roids". Normalfags will vaguely have a sense of when to leave it due to learning social cues from other non-romantic interactions. The people who are desperate enough to go on fucking 4chan of all places to find a mate are the ones least well-adjusted. Normalfags will seethe as much, they just don't think they can get away with a lot of things guys on here will do

Damn, no cheat codes to find a place where women like you concentrate huh. Fair enough. Thanks anyway femanon.

>>33073907
At this point I wish there was a separate board for all the “rate” threads. This board would be a lot better if that trash was contained somewhere else.

>>33074502
that cannot possibly be the reason

>>33074222
sometimes you just don't want to have to respond to someone quickly and don't want them to expect you to, and if you ignore some people for even a few minutes they'll start getting pissy
so i think it's just a way of showing that you're the type that responds slow sometimes
but i don't talk to people in the first place all that much anymore so idk

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>>33072770

The folding knife position. I refuse to call it the 'mating press' because it's only mating if you bust inside.

Men, would you ever approach a beautiful woman in person? Have you?

>>33074927
Definitely not. I'm far too anxious to just introduce myself to random people.

>>33074927
Yes and yes.

>>33074707
i mean any reasonable person doesnt expect immediate responses. but with people who appear on away i just throw that thinking away cause for all i know theyre online or theyre just larping and acting busy when they arent.

>>33074927
Yes and yes.

Although it obviously depends on setting. A cute girl who's evidently in a rush walking? I'm not stopping her out of nowhere.

>>33074927
No, I don't want to creep her out.

>>33074927
depends on the setting. i'm not going to creep on someone doing her job or just trying to exist in public. but if we're in a social space, yeah, absolutely.

>>33074927
I would and I have. But like the other anons say, at the right time and place.

>>33074927
Depends on the time, place and circumstances. I guess you mean specifically "introduce yourself" or something like that, my answer is more general because other reasons are also possible.
>Have you?
I did talk to them a few times in the past, yeah. Currently I'm stuck at home.

>>33074657
I wish.
>>33074662
It seriously is. I used DND for a looooong time because the red color matched my profile aesthetic.

>>33075570
..............man I don't even know what to say to that

>>33062894
Do you have to be more gentle fucking a skinny woman (say 90lbs lighter than you) than a normal weight woman (say 40lbs lighter than you)?

>>33074927
No, never. I don't enjoy making people uncomfortable.

>>33062894
I made an online quiz for women to take thats 120 questions if they get 90% or better they win my email to contact me.

>>33076171
If you want a good husband material guy you can take my quiz and score 90% or better. It is 120 questions long. https://uquiz.com/gzFnPb

>>33076074
weight shouldn't significantly affect tightness/lubrication which is the most important contributor to needing to be slow/gentle. extra fat on the ass and moundcan add extra cushion to prevent bottoming out but that's not a problem for most pairs.

other than that it is mostly just a question of padding (if she's really getting pounded, she'll feel it more when she sits the morning after) and flexibility (good luck getting big bertha's legs behind her head).

>>33073907

Real reason is cause they already know/feel how much they're undesirable. And with that rejection, you've just affirmed it yet another time in their life, they've taken yet another L, the wound gets re-opened every time. It hurts them because you actually matter.
Why do you think these kinds of types will instantly flip and go "whatever, you're a bitch anyway"? Its literally damage control to devalue you, and thus your rejection, because they cant afford too many more L's. Them "being entitled" is only a superficial view here.

To use an analogy if you took some silly online mensa test and scored poorly, you probably wouldnt care a whole lot and would move on quickly, but if you had a kid who was abused and called stupid their whole lives, and then they score poorly it can often crush them, its an open wound and an affirmation the world was right about them. They will become hypersensitised to the topic, and will often "notice" more proofs how its true. This is how people with massive insecurities and blackpill views come to be. Most people in that situation would just stop taking mensa tests and move on, but sad thing about being undesirable is you still want to date and require connection, so you bring yourself into these situations. You start out bad and you end up worse, and it doesnt take a whole lot to go down this path, just a few well placed L's early in life.

Its basically an ego bruise, they refuse to let go and accept that for this incarnation, they will be "trash" (leaving some leeway for debate how much they can salvage, "if they only xy" how you'd be totally into them then and that they're totally competing on an even playing field and its just their soul that's bad and they deserve it).
Ironically those who have swallowed it already, the ones the other anon calls "wizards who stopped giving a fuck" often do better because at least they dont wear their emotional wounds on their sleeve, are self-aware, or at least it scarred over enough.

>>33076241
>Because you actually matter
I shouldn't though. I'm still a stranger at that stage.
But yeah the "self aware wizard" type seems more tolerable. Do the other ones not realize they're making their own situation worse by acting that way?

>>33062894
Is 15cm(6“) of length and 14(5.5“) of girth enough to stretch a girl? Is it possible to hurt a girl if I go too hard with it? Refer to my earlier post about a 165cm, 50kg (5’5 110lb) woman

>>33076392
>I'm still a stranger at that stage.
You are not a stranger, you are nature itself deeming them unworthy, and selecting against them, one of many at that point.
That's why people who have dated before dont react this way when rejected, then its just a personal mismatch, and they know they're still "worthy".

>Do the other ones not realize they're making their own situation worse by acting that way?
Does the man refusing arrest, enraged, not realise they're making their legal situation worse? Do the people hidden under the floorboards not realise they're making their situation worse by crying, giving away their position?
Im not sure how much control a person truly has over themselves in great emotional distress. The consequences for ill action in this case are basically nil compared to previous examples.
Before you reject them they're playing the nice guy and trying hard to be 'something', whatever they think might work, trying to dig themselves out of their hole. This is them actively trying against their internal state, but people are of course extremely keen in sensing fakery. These are people for whom the world never gave them a reason to feel confident, so everything about them comes off fake.

After you have rejected them, has it ever been the case that if they hadn't thrown a temper tantrum, you would have added them back and something would have happened? No, they're essentially already "lost" and have nothing further to lose, they're in the free-est position they'll ever be, and can only gain a little (by minimising their own hurt, at your expense, a childish action). You are essentially seeing what they're been thinking to themselves internally the whole time, now with the mask off, and why its such a quick switch.
You're only processing what happened through your own view and how you were affected, which is fine because you experience your whole life only through your two eyes. They are doing the same thing, and there is a rift between you.

>>33076241
I'm not sure whether that's just a matter of being unpopular. I think it's more of an issue of personality traits, which are probably as common in the unpopular guys as in the popular ones. Men afflicted with narcissism tend to think of themselves very highly and being refused can set them off. Also 'because' they think of themselves very highly, they tend to be more eager to approach, which probably biases the experience among women to a negative degree, since they will be approached more commonly by narcissistic men than would be expected by chance.

This is also backed by data. Let me quote from a recent study on Tinder:

>In two brief studies (N = 581) we compared Tinder-users to non-users in individual differences associated with short-term mating (i.e., psychopathy, Machiavellianism, narcissism [the Dark Triad traits], and anxious attachment) and mate value. We revealed that the men who were Tinder users were especially high in psychopathy and narcissism and women who were Tinder users were especially high in anxious attachment and rated themselves as unsuccessful in finding relationship partners.

I wouldn't be surprised if things here were similar - but to an even more extreme degree, since arguably, if you're trying to find a partner on 4chan as a woman, you're probably even more desperate than the women on Tinder. And the men here know this - at least on an intuitive level. I suspect the types of men who are looking for women here are not just mere lonely men, but I believe you'd find a disproportionate amount of Dark Triad men looking for easy prey - probably even more so than on Tinder - because here, they're competing for comparably low self-esteem women with shy/timid nerds.

>>33076532
You havent mentioned that Tinder's algorithm also ends up optimising for dark triad men, and that they're likely to achieve short term dating success. Narcissists know how to not come off as fake because they essentially believe their own lies. Tinder is still a far more efficient venue for getting bodies for them, and of the few who migrate you can pretty easily see who the guys coming here from Tinder are in most threads based on how they profile themselves and what cards they play to get in the other's mind. That they even might have a hissy fit after being in the numbers game on other platforms as well, for so long, is dubious as well. They've gotten their share of successes and rejections. To truly viscerally flip you need a lot of L's for a long time.
>you're probably even more desperate than the women on Tinder. And the men here know this - at least on an intuitive level.
Completely true and this is what /soc/ optimises for. Guys who get 1-2 matches from 600 swipes, guys who have no chances anywhere else they've tried. It optimises for desparation, and you've essentially got your KHV guys population to follow. And if they then also happen to be dark triad on top, it is compounded and cant really be separated as it being the problem alone, and its probably why they're an unsuccesful dark triad to begin with (possesing other traits that lead to inceldom).
My conjecture when you think about why a girl might even come here looking for love to begin with, when its guaranteed they'd have a steady supply of matches on Tinder as well, is probably -because- that they're avoiding "normie manipulator" types who would seek to have power over them, choosing someone who is as neuroatypical/shy/inexperienced as them.

The girls here are doing the guys a favour, they can get guys elsewhere much easier than the guys here can get girls elsewhere. They would not come here if all you had was the same Tinder narcs, but now neet's and losers on top of it.

>>33062894
Complicated but please let me explain

>Myself and my male friend are attracted to friend girl1.
>male friend has known her twice as long as me and has been rejected twice but still likes her
>I’ve known her for a few months and I think it’s certain she likes me
>I tell friend I’m thinking about asking her out and he says he was gonna attempt an approach again
> I want the best for both of them but I just don’t think she’s into him
>tell him I’ll wait before asking her out so he can Hail Mary
>friend girl2 is also cute but I don’t think we’d get work out as well as me and friend girl1. I also don’t know if she likes me
>friend girl3 likes my male friend but he doesn’t seem to like her back because he’s into friend girl1

I think it seems hopeless that my male friend and friend girl1 will end up together but I want to be a good friend and let him exhaust his chances with her before I ask her out.
Should I wait and ask out friend girl1 who I think would work out well with me and I know likes me?
Should I take my chances with friend girl 2 when I don’t know if she likes me so my friend can persue friend girl1?

I wish he’d give up but that’s not an option he’s interested in because he thinks that she might secretly like him. It’s hard to convince someone who’s delusional in love. Friend girl2 is equally pretty and attractive but her family isn’t the best (ex-Mormon) and I don’t know if she even likes me.

What would you do. I’d say the friend group is a 6/10 in terms of solidity because we’ve only been hanging out together consistently since December

Women, what was your most pleasurable sexual experience with a man? Describe how it happened and what you enjoyed most about it.

>>33076591
>That they even might have a hissy fit after being in the numbers game on other platforms as well, for so long, is dubious as well. They've gotten their share of successes and rejections. To truly viscerally flip you need a lot of L's for a long time.
I'm sceptical about that. I believe narcissists would be mad no matter how often they got rejected before. What characterises the narcissist is that his self-image only exists in the admiration of others. He cannot maintain a self-image by himself. Any rejection is an insult of the very essence of his being. Incels, wizards, etc. (while some of them might 'also' be narcissists) are mostly rejected in their minds. If they were repeatedly trying, they would eventually meet someone who would accept their advances and they wouldn't be who they are.

>The girls here are doing the guys a favour, they can get guys elsewhere much easier than the guys here can get girls elsewhere.
It's not hard to get guys in a sense of uncommitted sex - but when it comes to convincing them to commit to a relationship it's much harder. I don't think it's mere kindness towards the men here. The women are simply extremely low in self-esteem which is why they come to a place where being a woman itself already puts them on a pedestal and where they don't have a lot of competition. Also, the anonymous environment caters to insecure people in particular, since they can say things without having to worry about their reputation. And it's extremely easy to withdraw and ghost people.

All of this is speculation obviously but I'd be very much interested in the personality profiles of the people here.

>>33078114
>If they were repeatedly trying, they would eventually meet someone who would accept their advances
You believe in a much kinder world than I, where everyone succeeds as long as they try enough. I wouldn't say it's necessarily true for other areas of life so im not sure why it would for dating. Though to put it mildly, there is certainly a strong positive correlation with trying and getting what you want, so there is that..
But yes that's essentially what they're all here for, trying. And stacking the dice in their favour by being in a relatively "uncompetitive" enviroment, where its more likely someone will actually find them acceptable.
I would say consider that nobody comes to try dating on soc as their first thought, so pretty much everyone here has been through the wringer of some combination of trying irl in people you have access to and tinder/okcupid etc...if you're here its because something likely went awry and you didn't find much success. How many people who find dates easily irl or on tinder would just spontaneously decide to enter the 'horrible' dating market of adding a ton of mentally ill people sight-unseen to chitchat on discord all day, and they're likely further away than a 50mi radius a dating app might provide. Its actually a pretty hostile enviroment for anyone who doesnt feel at home here.
>I don't think it's mere kindness towards the men here.
Of course, i didn't mean to imply it's out of the goodness of their hearts. :)
>It's not hard to get guys in a sense of uncommitted sex - but when it comes to convincing them to commit to a relationship it's much harder.
True, but as a rule it is still easier to get a guy to do concessions (in both short and long term dating) than it is for a girl to do so, who not only has more to choose from, but more desparate individuals as well. How many female simps do you know compared to male? Especially agreeing with the rest of your message, they know they're starting in a decent position here.

>>33074927
Let me rephrase your question
>Men, do you like to have a restraining order

>>33075038
there are plenty of unreasonable people though and i feel like setting away status is just so you can use it as a defense if you talk to new people often for the times where those types pop up, or at least thats why id do it (also you might be surprised how many dudes get pissy if they add you and send a message and you take longer than a few minutes to respond, rotten apples situation)

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>>33074927
>would you ever

My dick has taken me to places ordinarily I wouldn't traverse even with a loaded gun, what do you think?

I wish this thread had lived up to its potential. And I miss Swiss-anon and her enormous tiddies.

>>33079360
I agree, shit posting with the Multi posting Mexican woman and watching Aloha anon posting Redpills all day was truly a time to be here
So much paragraph posting now

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>>33079390
>the Multi posting Mexican woman
Hi, I'm still here. These threads just slowed to a crawl and the other regulars left, besides exhibanon.

Was chatting with this girl I met on a dating app, we were getting along fairly well but our conversations were extremely one-sided: I would ask stuff about her, she would respond fairly quickly and we'd chat about it, but she never once asked anything about me. I told a friend about the situation and she said I should cut contact, so I did. That was the right call, right?

Why do 4chan moids fuck better than tinder moids?

>>33080028
when it might be the only time a man fucks for years (or ever), his breeding instinct kicks in.

>>33080028 Because we have a lot of theoretical knowledge hence we read about sex to get a feeling of it
+ power of autism, and since sex is a skill autist will do it better than neurotypical

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I'm really wondering from a female perspective how my body looks. I get a lot of guys complimenting and asking for advice but, girls seem to be pretty timid in the gym. The odd one will ask for help but, more often than not they will just look and that's it lol. I'll catch them looking. I just don't know really what's going on in their heads. Here's how I look.

also bonus question If I'm walking down the street how do I look?

thanks ladies ;)

>>33078517
>You believe in a much kinder world than I
Well, lifetime sex partners seems not particularly strongly correlated with looks. One could argue that self-reporting on that end might have some social desirability bias, but the data is out there nonetheless.
When it comes to the men here, I'm not too certain whether all of them went through an odyssey of failing elsewhere. Most incels/wizards don't seem to have tried very much at all and when it comes to the other people here, I would be surprised if they were doing much worse than average. But as I said, most of this is speculative. I'd still be very much interested in what the personality profiles of the people looking for dates here is, i.e. whether it's something similar to Tinder, with most men scoring highly in toxic/abusive traits and the women being low status and desperate, or whether it's something different.

>True, but as a rule it is still easier to get a guy to do concessions (in both short and long term dating) than it is for a girl to do so
To a certain extent you are right: men are more eager to drop their standards, but they typically only do so momentarily, to acquire uncommitted sex. They will inadvertently give women cues which hint at an interest in a long-term relationship - or go as far as to outright lie to them. Most women aren't looking for casual sex, they're looking for long-term relationships. From a male perspective, it may seem like a somewhat reasonable deal, if they still got sex out of it - even if they ended up being deceived - but women tend to be a lot less enthusiastic about being used like that and it tends to be similarly frustrating as it is for men to face rejection, being unable to convince the men they desire to commit to long-term relationships.

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>>33062894
"Women" go for younger men. "Girls" don't.
There's a difference.

>>33080028
>moids
What is this new word?

Yeah so I'm a shy guy just trying to lose his v card and in general build his confidence with girls. Are dating apps my best bet? How do i find girls that are interested in non committal hookups?

>>33080028
But how are the 4chan foids? I've made out with a few but never fucked any

>>33081028
I think it’s something gay Catholic Zoomers created to describe thots.

>>33080829
I don't "go" for younger men, no matter how much I jokingly fetishize them. I just happen to attract and be attracted to traits that younger men are more likely to have.

>>33080625
>But as I said, most of this is speculative. I'd still be very much interested in what the personality profiles
For what it's worth, from all the guys i've added on here (as a guy), most just seem socially uncalibrated and inexperienced. If you try to be "in group" with them to get them to open up and ask "how their luck is" they'll often start gushing about some silly stuff (like how they bought some perfume and suddenly all the women are looking at them in the tram, thinking its out of adoration but they're probably obnoxiously over-sprayed) that nobody who got any attention or had much experience in life would say. Though to be fair i only add the weird ones so my sample is poisoned. Obviously /soc/ guys are not a monolithic entity but i wouldnt be surprised that from the ones who are toxic/abusive, are mostly so out of immaturity and inexperience rather than malice or whatever. I know when i started dating only at 19, that i was already emotionally damaged, nobody had loved me before so i didnt know how to behave in love, i treated it way too formal and it came off cold. I stupidly steppped on people's toes. Can't imagine how bad it would be if all your formative periods were over before you ever experienced love in your existence.

>it tends to be similarly frustrating
That is true, which is why the female dating struggle archetype is trying filtering and keep the wrong people out of your life, while the male is trying to insert themselves into anyone's life and find someone who'll care. I wouldnt be surprised if half the guys were even blindspotted to their own subtle deceits and do them unconsciously. When anything comes only through struggle, when life teaches you how redundant and unecessary you are, you slowly stop even thinking about the meaning of your actions and just try to get anything to happen at all, then you're like a neural network just trying to learn which buttons to press and what to do to get anything manifested in their life.

>>33081418
>I'm a shy guy just trying to lose his v card
>How do i find girls that are interested in non committal hookups?
Sorry to break it to you pal but hookups and short term dating are largerly centered around your phenotype and attractiveness, it has more to do with lust than love.
If you're still a virgin its reasonable to infer you've never been solicited or desired before, unless some extraordirany circumstances meant you lived in your woods your whole life and now you're in a big city, it's likely you've already experienced what dating will look like for you. If someone wanted to do it with you in this manner, you already would have gotten the hints.
So nothing is your best bet, but you're free to try anyway. You'll always have more luck with long term dating but then you actually need to be a good long term prospect.
Confidence is one of those funny things where its presence in you occurs if you're doing well in life, its essentially a proxy measurement for success and likely why its an attractive trait. It likely served as a built in mechanism for a form of social proof that would have worked even in pre-verbal civilisations. You dont want to follow an unconfident person into battle, their lack of confidence is probably warranted.

Its a large part of why dark triad is succesful (at least until their bs is discovered soon into the relationship):
If you're delusional and think you're awesome no matter what (narcissist), you're unlinked with reality and you have an infinite confidence hack
If you're a psychopath and everyone is just a sheep for you, then their opinions dont matter and you can just override confidence psychologically, you exist outside of the social framework others have built up, only dipping in like a fisherman does to fish

>>33081485
I don't know, I'm not a dyke

>>33081780
Well then how about I tell you after you come here?

>>33067816
I'm 22 y/o guy and usually also come off as way older via text for years. Most of the time people I talked to (both guys and girls) ended up being surprised that I'm younger than they thought. In other times some people did seem a bit baffled by that, but I don't worry too much about it.
>>33081418
Kind of in similar situation, except I just slowly working on being more confident with girls and being more talkative in general. Even though that made me realize I actually don't exactly have any issues while talking to girls, only that didn't really happen all that often for no good reason. I seem to actually be doing fine with friendly small talks.
Granted, there's no romantic or sexual interest in mind from my side. My stupid and unwarranted advice would be to not focus on "losing your v card". I don't worry about it not only because I'm well aware that I won't be near there for many reasons, but because just an idea to fixating on it doesn't seem great.

Is 8.5 inches too much for a virgin

>>33081930
Should probably invest in an Ohnut at some point.

>>33082246
Rape

>>33082246
Oh shit that's cool, thanks

I can’t get my girlfriend to cum
We have been dating for over a year, she says it’s always been like this, we have tried everything, but I can’t get her to cum
She can cum by masturbating, but when we have sex, literally anything of the sort, she can’t get off

She tells me it’s her own mental thing, but it has made me feel like a failure and a loser, what the fuck do I do
I’m afraid she’s going to leave me and I feel like I’m not good enough
Fuckkkk

>>33074927
While drunk, I approached the most beautiful woman I ever slept with in a club and simply said “I like your dress, you look great in it”
Not because I was hitting on her, but because I was drunk and really liked her dress
She smiled and said thank you
I then walked out of the club to get money at the atm
When I came back, she found me at the bar and asked why I left
I didn’t realize she even wanted to talk, and I wasn’t even trying to get with her

We hit it off and had some bonkers sex. She was my white whale, she was absolutely perfect, and I didn’t even mean for it to happen

Moral of the story, tell a girl you like her dress and then walk away, it just may work for you like it (unintentionally) worked for me

Girls, thoughts on this? What would u have done? I still can’t believe it to this day

>>33082338
Did you fuck her more than once?

>>33074927
No, the risk of offending her is too high.

>>33083712
Nope, one night stand in the city. I was only there for a few nights anyway, but damn was it wonderful

I’m a woman and I have a lot of trauma and was a sex worker. Guys, is that a deal breaker for you?

>>33083915
no

>>33083915
personally it's more like a perk, but a dealbreaker for what? are you trying to settle down? have kids?

>>33083921
A deal breaker for being in a long term relationship with lol. Yes, settling down

>>33083915
>trauma
Depends on how what it was from and what it prevents you from doing
>sex worker
Prostitute or online?

What food would you want a woman to cook for you, that would make you attracted to her instantly?

>>33083915
nope
if she wants to do it again, yes

>>33084059
Anything, at this point I’m getting jack shit. I’d be appreciative of hamburger helper desu

>>33063874
When I love a girl I don't want to masturbate cause I want to bust with her.
Thats being said, in a relationship with sex being available, maybe once per day. Although im 26 and my dick can't always keep being hard for very long anymore.

Question for the girls.

I have caught some girls looking/staring at me on public transit. Most are cute, but, how to I talk, flirt, or even say anything to them that will not be weird?

I feel as if i'm missing chances here! HELP.

>>33084059
I think I've got Italian blood in me somewhere, because I die for tomato and cheese based foods. If she could make a mean spaghetti I'd happily die for her, too.

>>33082338
The vast majority of men shy away from beautiful women. So to boldly approach obviously impressed and flattered her. That combined with being physically attractive yourself set you up for success. You should try this much more often.

>>33082338
I can't do this, I'm unattractive.

>>33084452
>>33084706
Haha thank you, it was a happy accident of boldness
And I don’t think I’m brad Pitt, but no Quasimodo either
I would rate myself a 7.3/10, my personality seems to do most of the heavy lifting
I’ll have to try it again some time

>>33083915
>Guys, is that a deal breaker for you?
My answer is somewhat similar to >>33084050. Trauma can come in all sorts of ways and sometimes you just can't really deal with it or with people suffering from it, as unfortunate as it is. All people are messed up in some ways and I have my quirks as well.
Would I be bothered about your background as a sex worker? Yes, most definitely. No way it would be otherwise. Although it's more likely I would be bothered by own self-criticism since I won't really want to come off as someone who started dating you solely due to your past experience with "if she was doing that, she has to be open up to all sorts of things for me" mentality. Not sure whenever me being a virgin would make this better or worse, honestly.
>>33084059
Hard for me to pick up something specific, so I would go off the opposite. As long as it's not something I'm not a huge fan of or just hate, my heart would melt. Even then I would polite and honest about it, so that she knows it's not her fault.
I'm going to anxious if it's something I never tried before though.

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F
How do you get someone to forgive you for ghosting them?

>June 2011
>20 years old
>make a group of online friends
>six in the group counting me
>we meet up for the first time March 2012
>from then on we meet up every six months and live together for 2-3 weeks each time
>basically inseparable, talk every day for more than seven years
>September 2018
>decide I want a new start in life
>ghost all of my friends, my group of best friends include
>my friends send me messages here and there for a few months, eventually give up because nothing they say makes me respond to them
>one of my friends continues texting me every month or so
>I always ignore her until December 2019
>I send her the coldest and meanest message I possibly can
>think that she'll be able to move on more easily if I'm cruel to her and make her hate me
>anyway
>though I intended to ghost them forever, I start missing them eventually
>last month I tried to rejoin the group
>one of them tells me that she's written me off and wants nothing to do with me, the girl who texted me the longest says I gave her trust issues
>the others have been pretty quiet, they haven't condemned me but haven't really said much of anything at all to/about me

How do I get them to forgive me and stop thinking of me as some heartless traitor? I don't think their disgust towards me is justified

Gender?
Funny interaction that happened a few years ago:
>head to hipster eatery in the hipster part of town to meet mother and sister but I was early and they were running late
>mother had been out of town for a year so first time meeting her
>outside patio having a smoke and possibly looking a little anxios
>woman at patio starts talking to me but since I was meeting family I felt weird about it
>invites me to sit with her friend while I wait so I join them at their booth
>friend or bf was relatively attractive guy they both seemed like they were from around the area
>they bought me a beer and we talked about a bunch of stuff I think the conversation even went as far as us talking about what we thought about the way each of us looked
>they bought me another round but then my mom and sister walked up to me and surprised me so I got distracted
>thanked them for the beers and went to our own table and totally forgot to get their contact info and felt weird doing it because Im with boner killing family
Was I approached by swingers? Im just realizing now that was probably it.

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I am looking for porn where a girl with strap-on and her boyfriend double penetrate a sex doll torso.

>>33085060
isnt that more of an /r/ thing?

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>>33080028
>Why do 4chan moids fuck better than tinder moids?
Why do degens fuck better than normies? The world may never know.

>>33081485
>But how are the 4chan foids?
We've got the BPDussy

>>33080437
>If I'm walking down the street how do I look?
Like you're on gear.

>>33081780
>I don't know, I'm not a dyke
Your loss

>>33082320
Try a couples sex therapist. Or ask to watch her masturbate and pay attention to her technique.

>>33084059
>What food would you want a woman to cook for you, that would make you attracted to her instantly?
My quesabirrias have gotten me several "how have you not found a husband yet?" comments.

>>33084351
>how to I talk, flirt, or even say anything to them that will not be weird?
Try striking up a casual conversation without any pretense of attraction. It makes small talk more effortless and makes you more attractive.

>>33085006
>How do I get them to forgive me and stop thinking of me as some heartless traitor?
It would help if we knew what you said, but your best bet would just be explaining you were going through a lot of hard things in life and it manifested in unhealthy and self-sabotaging ways.

>>33084286
Ah fair enough! I don’t want to do it again but it is tempting a little I won’t lie: but I know I won’t do it again

>>33084050
It’s from sex. Sexual assault and rape. From prostitution and other things. I’m going to therapy now but it prevented me to get particularly close with anyone. It’s still a little hard to get to know me.

>>33084050
I was a prostitute and I also did online porn

>>33085125
If you rape a prostitute, isn't that just theft?

But I'm sorry you had to go through that. The assault and the prostitution.

>>33085137
Haha it’s okay. It’s part of the job. It’s funny because I don’t mind talking about it and I don’t feel like scared or sad when I think about it. I just have relationship struggles now. I’m also in sex addiction therapy and go to Sex Addicts Anonymous. So I have a bunch of issues with sex and attachment issues and mental health stuff. But I am in treatment now so that’s good

>>33085118
>>I don't know, I'm not a dyke
>Your loss
It wasn't my decision, ok?

>>33085118
Id like to fix an atoga female like in your pic

>>33084059
Im absolutely not a picky eater if she genuinely wants to cook for me with love, she gets my seed as a reward

>>33062894
>talk to girl
>great convo, get her number, talk a little bit
>she seems less and less interested so i become less interested and eventually she just reacts to one of my texts and i leave her on read after that
>days pass and I figure she just curved me
>today she randomly just starts texting me as if she's super interested
women explain please

>>33085006
For the looks of it you burnt any bridges that might have been there after you left. I don't think you're in a position to do anything to be forgiven, specially if you were cruel in the end, since they probably feel somewhat used by you.

>>33085118
>Try striking up a casual conversation without any pretense of attraction. It makes small talk more effortless and makes you more attractive.

Advice taken.

The thing is there is an alterior motive in the end which is to keep a contact. How do I achieve that during a 5-10 minute train carriage.

One time I could have done it with this Asian chick I met but she seemed to be attracted because she kept approaching me even though she was rushing to catch a plain. But this has happened only once....

>>33084351
Make her a compliment, then give her your number on a piece of paper, and tell her to call you sometime. Then leave. That way, you will avoid any awkward situation if she isn't interested.

Is this a normal amount of moaning? Is it too little or is it okay?

https://voca.ro/189tbIZAEgsY

>>33065336
>she could
>she could
>she could
Has it actually happened to you, or are these all hypotheticals?
Was your sex and relationship not enjoyable enough to be an incentive in itself?

>>33065371
I assume you mean more than just accepting donations on Twitch. I guess starting an OF and actively marketing to coomers would be the easiest route. It would be depressing to join the Twitch-to-porn pipeline though, I kinda pride myself on standing apart from that.

>>33074222
Plausible deniability for men who get extremely upset when they don't get an instant reply. That's depressingly common.

>>33076401
You should start slow with any size, but I think that should be fine. It's important to pay attention to her reactions, so if she says "ouch", believe her.

>>33079360
They were very nice. The tiddies, I mean. And I liked her voice.

>>33080437
You look like a henchman to the villain in an action movie, but a "mini-boss" one that takes the hero multiple blows to take down.
I'm not sure what we'd talk about in the gym, since you're way beyond what women can achieve. Testosterone is a cheat code.

>>33084351
If you've seen each other multiple times, you're "known strangers", which is better than total strangers. Breaking the ice is the hardest part, so just make some comment about how the bus is always late or something. If she's into you, she'll reciprocate.

>>33085050
F, that's definitely odd, lol. Real "we noticed you from across the room, care to join us?" vibes.

>>33086437
Seems normal to me, but I'm far from an expert.

>>33086437
Any amount is normal as long as you don't force it. Just let whatever sounds come out as they please, it's best when natural.

>>33085118
>We've got the BPDussy
Never had sex with a non-normie, what's that like?

>>33085125
>>33085126
Deal breaker for serious relationship

For men:

How do I get the message across that despite being 5'10'', being black, having a more skater/streetwear dress sense, having short-ish hair, liking concerts/festivals, not having any stereotypical "wholesome" hobbies (knitting, baking, etc), and not having a cheery demeanor, I still hate casual sex and slutty men, and I want to just only ever be with one man in my life and hopefully get buried next to him? Do you think that only women who dress like librarians/grandmas are allowed to have these views? Also larping as a le trad girl would feel fake and manipulative.

>>33087039
This is one of the saddest posts I've ever seen on here. Fuck America man

>>33087039
There's no consistent way. Even if you were a tiny cheery Amish woman, some number of guys are still going to assume you're secretly a freak. Just gotta find the ones who aren't creeps.

>>33086626
I have to force it or else I’m mute.