>The Brasileirão will be broadcast in the United Kingdom FOR THE FIRST TIME! >The competition will be broadcast by Premier Sports, which will transmit two live games per round over the next two seasons.>The agreement does not include Flamengo's home games, which preferred to place their games on a paid streaming service. All other games can be broadcast, as the other clubs sold them jointly.>Via @EstadaoBrits will now be able to watch Mirassol beating Flamerda instead of Manure and Manbore....
give me the brazilian derbies
>>150454758>give me the brazilian derbiesred = strong rivalry, comparable to something like man utd vs man city, or real madrid vs barçaorange = mild hate, i imagine it's a similar level to the big 6 in the ukyellow = momentaneous hate, history because of são paulo vs rio de janeiro tourneys and stuff>São Paulo state = Palmeiras vs Corinthians vs Santos vs São Paulo (vs nowadays also RedBull Bragantino to a lesser extent)>Rio de Janeiro state = Flamengo vs Fluminense vs Vasco vs Botafogo>Minas Gerais state = Atlético Mineiro vs Cruzeiro>Rio Grande do Sul state = Internacional vs Grêmio>Bahia state = Bahia vs Vitória>Ceará state = Fortaleza vs Ceará>Pernambuco state = Sport vs Naútico (not in the pic, currently in Série B)>Northeastern region = top right in the pic, they all hate each other, though the state rivals are their main enemies
Nautico is in Serie C actuallyThis is serie B
>>150454709Basado
Vasco chads, we move
>>150454709Cool but I've never even heard of Premier Sports and no idea where to find it
>>150455614i thought it was a scottish channel
>>150455637Is it a subscription?
>>150454709>premier sportsthat was the same channel that had the scottish games and no one subbed to it
Most people have never heard of Premier Sports. it’s a niche channel that’s way up in the 400’s & they don’t have the rights to any Premier League games - so no one buys it.If you want viewers in the UK you need to do a deal with Sky Sports (the main broadcaster for football) which is what 90% of football fans pay for.Then it’s TNT Sports - which maybe 10% of fans pay for since they have way less games than Sky but do have exclusive coverage of champions league / European football.I guess they could also have done a deal with 1 of the 5 free-to-air terrestrial channels - but that would most likely be with Channel 5 (that no one watches)Also who would be interested in this other than Brazilian expats?We already have the best Brazilian players playing in Europe.
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>>150455004Is the Rio vs Sao Paulo really that big of a rivalry? I went to Fluminense vs Palmeiras a few weeks ago and there didn't really seem to be any animosity
>>150454758favelados vs policiabunda vs bum liftstransgenders vs realityliving standards vs brazil
>>150455975That's why I said momentanous, Rio vs São Paulo is a rivalry in many senses, so when a team from each state is competing against the other often they usually have a little rivalry going for a while. Nowadays Flamengo and Palmeiras fans kind of hate each other since they have been competing consistently for the past 6 years or so
>>150455857>We already have the best Brazilian players playing in Europe.Pfffffft-- KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
>>150454709>behind a paywallPass.
>>150454709I will watch your league.
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>>150455004How is SPFC viewed? That was Kaka's old team
>>150455975Fluminense X Palmeiras seems more like a friendly match. They share the same World cup that nobody in the world recognize so there may be a strong connection or something like this...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJjyT3NeAgU
>>150454758Everyone vs Flamengo
>>150454709No Flamengo??:(
>>150459857im sending you to complexo de israel
>>150457567gays
>>150456301>momentanousWe say "momentary" in English. At first I thought you meant "momentous" (which means important) and was confused when you said they aren't longstanding.
>>150455614It's on Sky, and I think you have to pay extra for it. I think they show something I wanted to watch, and I couldn't unless I paid so I just didn't watch it.
>>150454709The Brasileirão is sadly a hard sell in Europe because of the time zones. Not many people in the UK would want to stay up until 1AM to watch Abel Ferreira masterclasses.>>150455975Interstate rivalries are generally not a thing. Rio-São Paulo rivalries only go as far as two teams from both states competing for the same titles in the same season. In fact you have instances of ultras being chummy with each other like with Palmeiras and Vasco, and Santos and Fluminense. But as a rule of thumb, rivalries in Brazil are local.
>>150466962is the Brazilian league more lucrative than the Bundesliga?Sky flogs German matches for free on their youtube channel and Goldbridge has the right too. Brazil's league shouldn't be behind a paywall. unless Bundesliga really is that unpopular.
>>150457567Big club, very successful in the early 90s and mid 2000s but have been through a dry spell for a while. They won a cup in 2023 but don't look like they'll win anything again any time soon. Lucas Moura is there if you have any opinions on Tottenham.
>>150467012The times aren't that bad. Yeah some late night matches but most games are okay starting between 20:00 and 23:30 CEST
I have just checked my TV. Premier 1 HD (Sky channel 419) is currently showing "NASCAR Highlights: Daytona Speedway", followed by "World of Freesports" at 15:00, and then "Euro Le Mans Highlights: Imola" at 15:30. I guess there won't be any live football matches on in the middle of the day on a Friday, but it's still not a great selection of things that they show there.
>>150467257There just isn't anything worth showing. The only interesting league would be the Japanese one and it's already 23:30 there and the matches are over. at 17:00 GMT a couple of matches start but nothing great like Austrian league. At least it's not endless reruns of the 2010 WSOP
>>150460347No to zionism
>>150467028like traditionally, what's the area like, what kind of people support the team?
>>150468365They're based in Morumbi, a nice and affluent part of São Paulo. They are stereotypically associated with financially better-off people for historical reasons, but the club has a large following all over the social pyramid. They also have a significant following outside the state of São Paulo. Still, the association with the upper middle class and the elite of São Paulo remains. They're not particularly political as far as I'm aware.
>>150454709>Premier Sportsit pretty much might as well not be airing at all
>>150468441Interesting, they also gave us the GOAT Antony but, maybe I'll support someone else
>>150454709I'll watch it for the bunda
>>150468480I imagined this
>>150468441you know what, while you're at it give us a quick rundown of all the teams
>not streamed on That's Football with hilarious host Mark Goldbridgesorry, not interested
>>150472878I'll group them by state to make the posts more concise. Continuing the state of São Paulo first.>sport club corinthians paulistaFounded by a handful of factory workers who watched defunct London club Corinthian FC play while touring Brazil. Needless to say, they became strongly associated with the working class despite having a massive following at a national level. 2nd most popular club in the country. They were very successful in the first half of the past century and first peaked in the 50s, falling into a coma until the 90s. Rivals often accuse them of lacking tradition because of that.>sociedade esportiva palmeirasFounded by Italian immigrants in the city of São Paulo as Palestra Italia, forced to change their name due to WW2. They were extremely successful in the 60s and early 70s, then also a few things in the 90s. Had a terrible time in the following years, with two relegations and a cup in a span of 14 years. But they bounced back gloriously and have been extremely competitive since 2015, winning at least one major trophy in most seasons. They have an expressive following and some national appeal, not necessarily among people from Italian ancestry. Some people criticise their fans for being increasingly boring and plastic since the club reorganised itself.>santos futebol clubeYou know them. They had Pelé. They were best team in the world in the 60s. It's also noteworthy that they're the only big club in Brazil that isn't based in a state capital, instead representing the homonymous city of Santos, where they play in Vila Belmiro. Their success after the 60s has been limited and very inconsistent, and they've been having a nasty time in the past few years, being relegated for the first time in 2023. Other than the past, they're best known for their prolific academy (you might known them for Neymar, Robinho and Rodrygo). Smaller, local following. Bantered as a boomer club. Statistically wealthy fans despite not being stereotyped as such.
>>150475002I'll need two posts for Rio. The São Paulo one nearly hit the word limit. Starting with the Brothers Karamazov of Brazilian football.>fluminense football clubThe first football club in Rio, they were founded by the son of an English diplomat and quickly brought together Brazilians and the very insular and small English community in the city. They were born a very elite club and that allowed them to accomplish many landmarks in the early 20th century. Their feats in the latter part of the century were modest at best, and the club hit rock bottom in the 90s playing the 3rd division in 1999. They bounced back and managed to become copetitive again, despite schizophrenically oscillating between winning titles and fighting relegation the very next season. They're also known for their academy, specially if you like FM. Thiago Silva, Marcelo and Fabinho come from there. The following is small and very concentrated in Rio, and they are statistically still the wealthiest big club fanbase. Based in Laranjeiras, but they play in the Maracanã with their ultras to the right-hand side of the main stands.>clube de regatas do flamengoIn 1912, half of Fluminense's team left the club for reasons still not clear. They decided to start a football team in what was originally a rowing club based a few hundred metres away from there where many of the club members cross-trained water sports. The club's pre-existing popularity from the rowing days (back then Rio's main sport), the backing of Brazil's biggest media mogul and a more open attitude towards the poor turned the club into a phenomenon with the largest following in Brazil. Massive national support across all social classes despite being stereotyped as favelados. They start winning in the 80s but haven't stopped ever since. Most competitive club in Brazil along with Palmeiras since 2019. Based in Gávea, but play in the Maracanã with their ultras at the left-hand side of the main stands.
>>150467025No, far from it, id say profits wise its around the level of the Eredivise or the Primeira Liga, but the financial gap between clubs isnt that large and neither is the case for players and teams those clubs form. Mirasol, a club from a relatively small town in Brazil got promoted to first division this year and they have so far done a phenomenal job, they are currently around 6th-7th which are spots for the CONMEBOL Sudamericana, our Europa League equivalent.
>>150454709will defo watch if i don't have to pay extra. if they think i will cough up more then they are sadly mistaken. probably means more good streams though.
>>150475962Rio part 2.>botafogo futebol e regatasMerger between a rowing club and a football club, both based in the homonymous neighbourhood. Second oldest footballing team out of the big four, Fluminense's first rivals. They're a bit hard to pin down because they've always been important, but never dominant at any point. Unlucky for them, their prime years with the likes of Garrincha and Jairzinho coincided with the even more formidable sides of Palmeiras and Santos. They've also struggled with many years of nothing happening. Recently they fell for the multi-club ownership meme under Textor's Eagle Group. They starred the biggest choke in the history of the Brasileirão in 2023, bounced back to win the league and the Libertadores in 2024, but now are having a hard time thanks to Mr. Textor. Small, local following. Based in Botafogo, but play in the Estádio Nilton Santos.>club de regatas vasco da gamaFounded as a rowing club (see the name) by Portuguese immigrants (see the name). They stand out as the only genuinely working class club, founded and originally followed by working class people, based in a shithole neighbourhood with an actual working class following. They pride themselves in having had blacks and manual workers very early on and accuse Flamengo of being phony hypocrites. Their home stadium São Januário was crowdfunded and built by the fans. They've had multiple competitive sides over the decades, peaking between the 40s and 50s, and then again in the 90s. Sadly after 2000 they became the ultimate banter club. Accumulating relegations and humiliation rituals. Large local fanbase and good national following.
>>150476350I'll be brief with Rio Grande do Sul and Minas because I honestly don't know much about them. Starting with Rio Grande do Sul.>grêmio foot-ball porto alegrenseThey were originally founded as a kraut-only club. Only people from the German-Brazilian community in Porto Alegre were let in, remaining like that for the first three decades or so. Which didn't stop them from being competitive. Over the years, Grêmio gained a reputation as a cup-winning club, being the second biggest Copa do Brasil winners and being tied with a few others as Brazil's three times Libertadores champions. Stereotypically associated with Rio Grande do Sul's upper class, but that doesn't really hold true as they have a large following in general. Strictly local club support.>sport club internacionalTwo brothers weren't let into Grêmio because they had just moved to Porto Alegre from São Paulo. So they start their own club that lets everyone in (it's in the name). This greater social and ethnic diversity naturally made them the popular alternative to Grêmio's elitism as far as stereotypes go. Peaked in the 70s when they were the best in club in Brazil by a good margin, but haven't won the Brasileirão since 1979. They are too often semi-finalists, runner-ups and 3rd place. Strictly local following.
>>150476626Minas Gerais is the weirdest one. Clube Atlético Mineiro's rivals were originally América Futebol Clube, but the latter were such elitists chuds that they chudded themselves into obscurity and irrelevance as football became a mass sport. So this other club that used to be called Palestra Italia and, like Palmeiras, had to change names because of WW2 suddenly became Atlético's main rivals from the 50s onwards. But that doesn't mean Atlético are the main characters. Despite being locally more successful, Cruzeiro blew them away in national and continental competitions for most of their histories. Atlético won the 1971 Brasileirão and then waited until 2013 for their next big trophy. Not that they were irrelevant all this time, they just kept choking and losing. Cruzeiro had a very successful run in the last decade but that cost them a lot of debt that financially ruined the club and doomed them to stay a few years in the second division until a supermarket chain owner bought them. Atlético too seem to be going down the same path of financial ruin. Both teams have strictly local followings, Cruzeiro having a marginally larger fanbase. And that is all for the big 12. Thank you for your time.
>>150476895>>150476626>>150476350>>150475962>>150475002I should be the one thanking you for your time
