Group stages suck and tournaments should start in a knockout format from the get go.
I’m going put you in a knockout stage
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>>150456185Nah, I think it's fine to separate the wheat from the chaff first. Group stages offer this maths intrigue. I think it's fine. It has become increasingly redundant in the CL though since money has made everything drift apart more and moreAt some point, KO is the way to go. But starting with a group stage has something to it. There's a different kind of drama, a different kind of pressure
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>>150456185Everyone who has watched a sport for 10 years knows this. There's nothing left to do in football, that's why I stopped watching
>>150456185Psst...Your league is just a season long group stage.
>>150456185I agree with you. Plus the Champions League should be only played by the champion of each country. And rename it Champions Cup because it's a cup not a league.
>>150456185How do you fairly set the knockout stage though?
>get paid 1M USD just to play one match and loseadvanced judaism
>>150460192the name 'Champions Cup' doesn't have the same aura and marketability as 'Champions League' but I do agree on only the champions, and Europa league should be cup winners or 2nd place if the cup winner is the same as the league winner
that's how the old format for the european cups was.
>>150459025>tfw my coffee spills the wrong direction when someone slaps me
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>>150458978the Group stage gets really good near the end, especially in tight groups where they all could still go through mathematically. The Qatar group with Uruguay, Worst Korea and Ghana was so good. Plus, just making the knockout stage is almost like winning the whole thing for smaller teams
>>150468212I kind of think it should return. Cup magic is one of the most based things about football, and international cup magic might be even better. Real showing up in Kosovo.But with the current schedule, it would be impossible of course. There are too many games already
Dollars, Euros, Pounds, Rupees, Dinar, Yen, Yuan, whatever you want to call it, that's what calls the shots.There's far more money in Arsenal, Barcelona, AC Milan and Dortmund than there is in Bodo Glimt, Astana and Studea Bruschetta
I always wanted the world cup to be 128 teams 7 round knockouts. Matchups completely random. More than half the world participates and massive upsets could happen.
>>150460192>>150461301Back when it was called the European cup, the competition was only to league champions from the previous season. I think that's a bit too harsh but, the competition has expanded too much nowadays. Maybe bringing it back to top 2 instant qualification and 3rd and 4th have to go through qualifiers would be better.>>150468212That would be better than the Europa league desu, it would also give more incentive to win the domestic cup since nowadays teams only seem to focus on league points and the domestic cup has become a cope trophy
>>150470179Balance is hard to findThe champions of Moldova and Estonia don’t need to play in the CL, but there could be some more spreadBut all in all, I think the current approach with League coefficients is the best we have
>>150461186you start by eliminating the half the teams that dont have a chance of winning the tournament. then it doesnt make a difference because the good teams wont be eliminated by shitters.group is just a money grab and a way to let shitty hosts have a team in the tournament. complete waste of time that has no impact on the final outcome
>>150470176Nah most countries are overwhelm crap anyway. No one really gives a shit about Bangladesh vs Hong Kong for example and if one of those teams played against Germany, they definitely aren't gonna cause an upset.If you think of Qualifiers as the league phase of the Torment , Every country in the world is already playing for the cup and the actual torment is just the final part of the league phase and the play offs.
>>150470277STOP MAKING SENSE
>>150470227Yeah, I don't disagree with league coefficients. I just thing the competition could be shrunk a bit, for those kinda countries their champions go through the qualifiers like 3rd and 4th place teams from a bigger league go through for example
