How is the rest of the world supposed to catch up to England?
>>150541671Not with financial power, that's for sure. The other top leagues are either close to selling out as well, but far away from PL's financial power - or they're the Bundesliga and categorically unwilling to even try selling out, which is the basic requirement to even approach the PL in that regardThe other clubs will have to be smarter and hope for the PL clubs to be too wasteful. It will be a pipeline to a degree, a pipeline to England - everyone else will place more emphasis on scouting and their own youth development. There's an opportunity here, it's possible to build strong teams that way, but it will take extra cleverness to keep a well-oiled machine togetherPL might run out of steam at some point when they run into a phase where there's no real growth, maybe they will even slightly shrink eventually. And if they throw around too much money and change squads all the time, they might run into trouble. Also, PL might become too straining to warrant good international performance. The clubs in other league profiting might be larger market clubs with big areas to roam for talents. They could actually profit if they dominate their leagues. But overall league strength will always be best in the PL unless they are very dumbPL clubs greatly profit from club networks delivering them their loan armies. Straßburg for Chelsea and so on. That shit's absolutely disgusting, but it definitely helps them
>>150541671They can't. There's no global market for Barcelona vs GreasyDiveDago FC or Bayern vs Commieblockslautern FC.The spending doesn't matter either. Nottingham Forest could play Everton just with British & Irish players, and be more of a spectacle than some random game in Spain or Germany with all the Latin American superstars.
>>150541859The first part was questionable already, but (You) went too far with the second part. Hard for anyone to bite
>>150541772The PL is a bubble that will soon explode. With all that money you'd expect Prem clubs to win year after year but they don't so imagine if they had the same purchase power as the rest of Europe. Not to mention they're buying success, not fostering it through their academies and it shows everytime England plays international competitions.
Let them burn all the money they want. If continental clubs aren't too dumb, they (all of them, from Dortmund to Toulouse) should rush to make all their good young-ish players to sign some ridiculously high termination clauses.
>>150541914The current boom will have to come to a halt eventually, but I think they have quite a bit of time left until that. And they really have to flounder it in any case. With their money, they can build great facilities to develop talents themselves. It's not like they produce nothing. But it's often drowned in a sea of expensive signings from elsewhereIt kind of depends on them. If the owners are smart and mean well, these clubs will always stay on top. If they're dumb and heinous, the system might crash and burn as soon as things aren't looking up for a few years straight. But for now, things are looking up for the foreseeable future
When will the bubble explode? If covid did almost nothing to PL, then, what it is?
>>150541981There are still many more bandwagoners and plastics from the US, India, China, Africa, Indonesia, the Arab world, etc to woo. That's growth potential. It will keep going. But the more eventified something gets, the more volatile everything becomes at some point. Who knows when people get bored? Can the hype keep up forever?
>>150541671The only way to stop English clubs would be bringing back pre bosman foreigner limit and PL clubs will be forced to use atleast 8 british players in their lineup.
>>150542078How about applying it everywhere.
>>150542097>>150542078A man can dream ... but he cannot hope7 or maybe even 6 would suffice, though
>>150542078This would not stop the EPL being the most watched league. It would not matter if the goals were scored by British / Irish hoof merchants.Non-English leagues have too many obstacles to overtake the EPL.1) England has more history. Nottingham Forest or Sheffield Wednesday just has a better ring to it than Getafe or Espanyol, especially in an Anglophone world.2) England has the best fans. No one can relate to German groupthink fans with their banners made during the lunchbreak or Spanish fans waving their handkerchiefs. English fans are cruel, ignorant, and loud at the right times.3) England has a better style of play and better referees. The games are usually fast-paced, this is interesting for a television audience. The referees are not perfect, but they're less fussy & officious than European referees. Most importantly, in England it's frowned upon to get other players carded or to dive. In the primitive & childish Spanish mindset, cheating is normalised.England doesn't need foreign players or Champions League places. The lack of these would be a disaster for La Liga. English football could carry on just fine. The quality would be lower, but the battle for the league would be just as dramatic. The EPL would be the most popular league in the world without one single nom-British player and that's just a fact. Anyone trying to dispute this is coping.
>>150541965See, the thing about that is the fact that England doesn't produce very good players because of their over-emphasis on >muh physicality over players actually being skilled on the ball. It's why PL doesn't walk all over european competitions, and also the reason why England haven't won a major national competition since the 60's. At the end of the day, technical quality still wins out over running around like headless chickens.>>150541981Covid did hurt the PL, but since the PL's biggest source of income comes from the TV rights, the PL got hurt way less than other leagues.
>>150541914>With all that money you'd expect Prem clubs to win year after year but they don't so imagine if they had the same purchase power as the rest of EuropeIt's been stated many times before but the reason is that there aren't really any easy games anymore in the Premier League. Every team has spending power and can buy top European & World talents. Take Bournemouth for example, they were only promoted for the 2022/2023 season and yet they had an extremely strong showing last season and consequently two of their best performers get picked up by Liverpool and Real Madrid.There is no resting your entire team for a midweek Champions league game like PSG can for example.Watched the first three Liverpool games which have all been wars and the season has only started. PSG might only play that many intense games in their entire league campaign. There's really just no comparison with other leagues.
>>150542311It's not that deepThe EPL is accessible and entertaining.If I want to watch the brasilerao I have to listen to portuguese speaking commentators. If I watch La Liga I would have to watch Madrid - Barca every week to make it appealing to me.The EPL has this narrative of the "top 6" that makes the title fight interesting even though Tottenham hasn't won it in 50 years, Arsenal in 20 years, Liverpool in 30 years before 2018. With Chelsea and City buying the best talent available for the last 20 years.The biggest accomplishment of the EPL is hiding the fact that it's a one club league like the Bundesliga.Without foreign talent every top english player would just play for man united like it was in the 2000's
>>150541914>>150541965>>150541981The bubble will burst when american owners find there is no one to buy their clubs off them for more than they put in. That's all that's keeping it going.
>>150542646They will just partially sell it back to the English to keep the income without the sporting responsibilities like the Glazer are doing with INEOS
>>150542683There aren't enough rich brits to sell to. Ratcliffe is like the second richest brit.
>>150541914>2018 wcsemis>2020 eurosfinalists>2022 wcquarters>2024 eurosfinalistsThey’re a very strong national team right now actually. I think you’re wrong about that and I also think you’re overblowing any correlation between domestic league and national team, there are plenty of examples against you
>>150541914prem teams spend 50% less than PSG stillbayern, madrid and barcelona all have higher wage bills than any premier league teamprem have more balanced higher end and mid table teams spend more than in other leagues
>>150541671>Ligue 1 has more sales than La LigaCalling bullshit on this one>>150542838They have a strong team but keep choking. I think they have a higher chance for euros than WC personally. >>150542908Chelsea has spent more than any other club. And for whatever reason they buy a ton of wingers.
>>150542311>This would not stop the EPL being the most watched leagueThat's not what OP is talking about, if you look at their image they are clearly talking about how much EPL is spending and hoarding the talent. By bringing back the 3 foreigners only rule (to ALL leagues of course) You wouldn't be seeing Liverpool spend 500 million on foreigners, it would be Salah, Van Dijk, Wirtz and then 8 british players. No spending 300m on Ekitike, Kerkez, Frimpong, Isak, etc. Also I want to address your first point in that Nottingham vs Sheffield and Getafe vs Espanyol would be equally as uninteresting, atleast here in the US. Sure EPL is the biggest soccer league but soccer fans still make up a tiny percentage of sports fans in the US, and they only care about sky 6 clubs.
>>150541671SUPER LEAGUEUPERLEAGUEIt doesn't matter if you make a Super League or the EPL grows into being the Super League. Either way, that's the end gameSUPER LEAGUEUPERLEAGUE
>>150541859This.
Soccer is gay
>>150541671just wait, til wc 34 is over. every non-50+1 league "owners" will find the next hobby to flood money into and move there.
>>150541671So the Prem could give a quarter of its revenue to the Championship, still outspend everyone by 2x, and the Championship would become the second biggest spenders.
>>150545414I remember 2011-2013 when the Bundes was really hot with Dortmund's rise, everyone new fans was into them and trying to get their kits. That went away so quick. There's so similar hype in Bundes anymore.>>150542311I think it's the strong football culture (arguably #1) and English being the world's lingua franca so you can get really immersed in English football. It's hard to do the same with Spanish clubsThe Champions League still carry a lot of weight though and CL games are more entertaining.
>>150541965How long have we been the best league? Longer than Italy in the 1990s, or Spain in the 2000s? I know these things are cyclical, but it seems like we've been dominant for a suspiciously long time.
>>150542311>England has a better style of play and better refereesYou know for a second you almost had me but this is just too blatant.
>>150541671By not giving a fuck about premier league? But impossible to convince panchitos, arabs and indians that the league is actually shit. Imagine if that happened who are they gonna sell it to? Goats in Scotland?
Super League would be 50% English, Madrid, Barca, Bayern, Milan etc.Big deal. England doesn't need European clubs or European players. There will never be a Newcastle-Atletico rivalry for example. England has a meaningful derby every week, sometimes two or more derby games. England's crappest derby is Liverpool vs Everton, the "friendly derby", and it's still better than every Spanish rivalry except Barca-Madrid or Real-Atletico.European football is SHIT. It will always be shit compared to England. England is best. Ask a normal American what team they want to follow. Or a Chinaman from Shanghai. West Ham, a mediocre EPL team, has more pull, fan culture, than the average Spanish or German team.
>>150549493>England doesn't need European playerslast transferwindow speaks a different language.
>>150541772>or they're the Bundesliga and categorically unwilling to even tryThat doesn't mean you could have rivaled the Premier League even if you sold out. The PL is huge because of Asian customers. And that's related to the British colonies.
>>150541914>Not to mention they're buying success, not fostering it through their academies and it shows everytime England plays international competitions.this has to be bait, english academy system has improved massively over the past 30 years and so has the quantity of talent, which has lead to better performances since c. 2018
>>150550659It says "to even try", so I think that's fairly obvious even in the sentence you quoted. It's just a prerequisite to do it, and the Bundesliga isn't willing to make that step, so they can forget about it right away. No one assumes they absolutely would blow up if they tried
>>150550572He's shitposting, let him be. Probably the same guy who posts that English stadiums have the best stadium atmosphere by far and so on
>>150541671la liga and serie a are playing league/cup games abroad for customer $$$ and still can't compete with us
always been a big fan of the narrative the PL is only big because of foreign fans despite the PL's domestic TV deal being the biggest in the world.if spaniards and italians can't even support their own leagues wny would anyone else support them?
>>150549493Both the continental and the British spirit are good and soulful but in different ways>Ask a normal American what team they want to follow. Or a Chinaman from ShanghaiNot really a brag
>>150548974We've been top about five years I believe.https://youtu.be/_RdBKGZLXOQ
I've always been curious, if people living in the other countries actually watch the Premier League. As you know in Ireland Premier League is King here no one even bothers to watch Serie A, La Liga or Bundesliga etc. I'm more of a Serie A guy than Bundesliga
>>150551649I'm a retard and linked the wrong vidWe overtook Spain in 2021 and they'd been top since 2013Longest run is probs 80s/90s Serie A
>>150549493Hi Angus
>>150550704>baitIt's north Americans and their ten year old, second hand opinions
>>150543952I hope they keep choking it’s hilarious
>>150551698I’ve lived in Australia and played soccer there. The various wogs all follow whatever league their parents or grandparents came from and all have favourite teams passed down through the generations and they all also will watch PL especially if there are Australians involved (Big Ange for eg.) or players from their old countries along with they’ll all sort of have more favoured clubs, the Aussies that watch soccer only really watch the PL and CL and a little bit whatever europa cup finals and other big matches like that especially if Australians are involved. It’s kind of an easy league for everyone to follow and I think a massive part of it is the language but it is also seen as the best domestic competition and most prestigious. There’s also hardly any actual mainstream coverage of it down there so it’s a good test area because the fans are actual football fans not just casuals watching on tv and the timezones really require some effort
>>15055169810 years ago, I don't think anyone bothered. But now, there are quite many people who also watch PL games. Usually just as neutral spectators, but some lost souls actually call themselves Liverpool fans (it's mostly Liverpool)They exist, but it's a recent phenomenon and still negligible compared to our domestic football
>>150541671>Player transfers to the EPL now have to pay 50% taxThat kinda fix it.
you fucking idiots don't get it. you forged all your other great leagues but didn't realise that another league had been forged in secret: the Premier League (you thought we were just the Football League all along) . you wouldn't have power if we hadn't created football and now, one by one, you will all fall to the power of the One League
>>150549493>fan cultureEnglish fan culture is dead. Chelsea whined to no end when some Swedish shitters came and completely took over their stadium.
>>150551698Asians, be it thirdies or koreans, are obsessed with Premier League
>>150553027Chelsea isn't representative for their fan culture at all
God is an Englishman.
>>150552789when when shitters like darwin nunez cost 80m i'd say they're already paying more than 50% tax
>>150541671It simple, just allow all the American and Oil money billionaires to take over your clubs and get UEFA and your local FA to remove all FFP restrictions
>>150541671>Best Top 4 League spends and sells the leastreally shows how inverted this nonsense money washing really is.
>>150541914EPL doesn't even make the Championsleague semi finals regularly kek
>>150542737kek and he's been acting like Scrooge at yanited.
>>150563626thinking of all those german european champions like uhh....uhhhhhhhhmm
>>150542646They'll just sell them to massive pension funds
> premiere league spends 3000% more than everyone else> still gets less than 1/3 of ballon d’or noms> overpays for mid players because “best league in the world”
brentford would walk la liga by january
>>150542908For your enjoyment, the transfer spendings by team from 19/20 to 25/26
>>150567213For even more fun, a count of the featured leagues>EPL : 13 teams (first appearance : 1)>Serie A : 5 teams (first appearance : 7)>La liga : 3 teams (first appearance : 11)>Bundesliga : 2 teams (first appearance : 14)>Ligue 1 : 1 team (first appearance : 6)>saudi or whatever league : 1 team (first appearance : 23)>Ligua Portugal : 1 team (first appearance : 25)
>>150567213now factor in psg pay:100m more in wages than man city per season209m more in wages than liverpool229m more in wages than man utd 263m more in wages than chelsea277m more in wages than arsenal398m more in wages than tottenhamand then tikes them by 5 for the 5 year periodhttps://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/man-city-2nd-barca-4th-which-european-clubs-have-the-highest-wage-bills-/view/news/451064
>>150567993This. Transfer spend is a meme. Success is pretty much correlated with wage bill
>>150567993>2023/2024Let's see the data for each individual year summed instead yeah? Here's 2020https://www.sporf.com/new-figures-show-the-highest-club-wage-bills-in-european-football/>>150568503Yet pissgay hadn't won shit till this year despite throwing absurds amount of money at people like neymar, mbappe and messi
>>150541914Don't most of the big spenders in the EPL lose a shit ton of money year over year? Surely this will all come down at some point when rich people realize that the valuation of these teams is absurd.
La Liga? Even Spaniards themselves don't watch that crap.Those empty-ass stadiums say it all.They probably don't even like soccer to begin with.At least Brits love their home leagues—even the third division sells out and keeps the economy rolling.
the inferiority complex of continentals makes me laugh, they're like the LATAMs of europe
>>150541859absolutely sublime bait lad
>>150568765taking small losses is fine when you have an appreciating asset. it's like buying overpaying for a house in the current market but knowing you'll make money in the long run. then there's the fact clubs can avoid corpo tax if they don't actually make a profit so it's actually beneficial for them to be in the red but have been active in the transfer window because football is basically gambling and you never know when bayern are gona pay 80m for jackson when you bought him for 30
>>150569082I'm talking about what will happen the moment that one of the ownership groups tries to sell a team and doesn't get the return they want on it. Something like that would likely trigger a major sell-off and a correction in the valuation of the teams.
>>150565941>b-b-but wha-bou' muh meaningless PR driven popularity contest?!kek seethe more, leaguelet.
>>150565941kek the moorberian inferiority complex kicking in
>>150568990This. Getafe vs Elche is a snorefest while Leeds vs Sheffield will be an exciting match with a good crowd
>>150541671I thought it was rape report graphic lol. great britain more like raped britain haha praise allah niggas
When other leagues create a product that can match watching the PL on TV. Camera quality and angles, lighting, pitch quality, commentary, graphics, halftime coverage, TV crowd noise, pretty much all of it is 100x better in the PL than any other league. I’d rather watch Everton-Brighton than Napoli-Roma or Bayern-Dortmund because it’s a more enjoyable TV experience. So if you’re some seething continental fag, stop bitching and start attending games to build atmosphere and sell your TV rights to competent companies Also stop handicapping your teams spend and let billionaires pump in money Im looking at YOU Lel Liga and Bundes. Otherwise stfu
>>150570643Oh and France stop taxing footballers at a 50% rate and Italy let your teams build and own stadiumsIt isn’t rocket science why England succeeds
>>150541671You just don't get it. It doesn't matter if no English club wins the Champions League over the next 100 years, the EPL will always be the "best" league.If European club football disappeared, English football fans (and fans of the EPL overseas) would not care. England doesn't need European clubs or European players. Whether Man Utd or Liverpool play better football than Juventus or Porto is utterly irrelevant, the top English league will always be the King.However high or low the quality of football is in the EPL, does not matter. The EPL will always be more interesting to the English (and the Swedes, Malaysians, Americans) than any of the spic leagues.
>>150541671what is happening in la laliga
