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Previous - >>150646630

>USF stuns Florida in huge upset
>Oklahoma defeats Michigan behind QB John Mateer
>Oregon blows out Oklahoma State
>Arch Manning shines for Texas
>Mississippi State upsets No. 12 Arizona State
>Belichick's first UNC win, confirms Patriots ban
>Michael Vick gets first win as coach
>Nebraska player proposes after scoring touchdown
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>>150682729
Last time Oklahoma State lost that badly, Oklahoma wasn't even a state yet
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>ole piss fans nervously watching the vultures of better programs circle their schoolt
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>>150682729
Billy Napier seems like the Simple Jack of college football.
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what did he do and imagine if nico goes down now
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>>150682729
>Arch Manning shines for Texas
Arch looked mid asf

fuckin hate the cupcake stomping hype across the board
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>be star qb of one of the biggest schools in the county

>pull out the BLICKY and start blasting in a public area, then beat your girlfriend

why ?
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>>150682852
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>A FUCKING SPIT
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>>150682865
>Star QB
He doesn't even start for them. Hell, he's been a career backup. Benched at Louisville too
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>>150682729
>USF stuns Florida
We were not "stunned" that our head coach made the same mistakes he's been making the last 3 years.
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>>150682840
>can't even bench i am a shitta
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>>150682840
>>150682865
It's ucla, so no one gives a shit. This is why the PAC died.
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>>150682852
you obviously didn't wear your Warby Parker© Manning Chosen One Edition™ glasses to watch the game, he was elite
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>>150682852
>San Jose state
>Cupcake
Look I hate west coast ball as much as the next American but they aren't a cupcake.
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>>150682840
UCLA's 247 board says it was domestic violence
>So the only thing we've beaten so far this year, is a woman?
lel
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>>150682865
it must be fun to throw your life away. like in a sense, its gotta be kinda freeing.
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>>150682953
If i forget they exist until they show up gameday, they're a cupcake.
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>>150682953
San Jose State went 7-6 last year and they lost to Central Michigan in week 1, yes they're a cupcake and Texas didn't even cover the spread against them.
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Clemson opened 10 point favorites to GT and it is -4 now
bit of an over reaction no?
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>>150682978
im pretty sure georgia tech is gonna finna boudda end their season senpai (unironically)
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>>150682965
It’s California and he isn’t white, he’ll have to do one hour of community service and probably get the key to the city.
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>>150682865
there’s a flag on the play. down to the field.
*ref makes a right hook punch motion*
>Domestic Violence…
>Offense, number 15. 15 yard penalty to he enforced at the spot of the foul.
>Automatic………first down.
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>>150682953
San Jose state are the retards that nuked half their stadium. Theres a reason the new pac didn't want them.
The only respectable programs left out of the power 4 (note Dame included) are the following
>American
Tulsa
Memphrica
USF
Army (only certain years)
Navy (only certain years)
>2PAC
WSU
OSU
>MWC
Hurr state (moving to the nupac)
UNLV
Air Force (only certain years)


No sunbelt, CUSA, or MAC teams need apply
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My Gophies :)
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>dan mullen
>the guy UF fired
>the guy that had two 10+ win seasons and a ccg berth
>he's 3-0 with a p4 win at UNLV
lol, lmao even
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>>150683095
UF drove his ass away. That's so funny. You could tell he was done with their shit attitude and relished treating them like shit on 2021

Incredibly based.
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>>150683095
he was out of coaching for 3 years too
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>>150683095
Dan Mullen is made for middle programs (like Mississippi state) not big brands with super boosters to deal with. At UNLV he should thrive.
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>>150683095
>>150683156

Is it really that bad living in Gainesville and having Florida fans around you?
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Florida is finished, this is so funny
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>>150683093
Left is a cutie.
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>>150683095
>p4 win
Let’s chill out, UCLA would lose to a decent FCS team
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USF will beat MIami

checkem
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>>150682953
>SJSU
>not a cupcake
The cope is real.
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It's up!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2sjij3iOBw
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>>150683472
half expecting this after how uppity they were last year and miami always lets me down
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>>150683505
Cristobum will let you down at some point. I will never trust that guy after he lost a game because he was too stupid to use victory formation.
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>>150683090
>Capacity
>18,203 (2021-present)
>21,530 (2019–2020)
>30,456 (1998–2018)
>31,218 (1985–1997)
>18,155 (1948–1984)
>11,000 (1937–1947)
>8,500 (1936)
>4,000 (1933–1935)
I get some schools reducing capacity in order to add more premium seats or otherwise do seating changes that make the game more comfortable but what San Jose is doing is basically waving a surrender flag. They claim it's only temporary as the demolished seating is for a new athletics facility and that they'll add back even more seats but there's no timeline nor funding for that to happen. They're far more likely to just never start the next phase, which will help their capacity attendance percent average.
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>>150682729
what's his buyout anyways
it can't possibly be that high anymore, isn't this year 4?
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>>150683742
Billy Napier's buyout cost for the Florida Gators is approximately $19.38 million if he is fired after the 2025 season, which is 85% of his remaining contract. If he were to be terminated during the season, the buyout amount would be higher based on the timing of the decision.
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>>150683811
jesus
florida is retarded
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>>150682953
Kek yes they are you delusional homer
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>>150683816
Jimmy Sexton rapes every school, you get used to seeing this rerun after a while.
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>>150683816
Every AD is retarded with contract negotiations. They sign anything the coach's agent hands them without ever counteroffering. It's pretty standard for nearly all of the remaining salary to be guaranteed in a buyout. What some schools do to try to get some leverage is make it so the buyout dates are scheduled to be long, meaning if you have 5 years left when fired they will pay you out over those 5 years. That way they can offer to pay you a smaller amount immediately and be done with it, like 65% of what you're owed right now instead of waiting 5 years to get 100% of it.
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>illinois in the top 10

what is this 2007
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>>150683906
the dumb part of napiers extension was it doesn't even have an offset when it's become fairly common. no matter what UF is paying him $20m even if he gets hired back into the g5
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>>150683816
Our athletic director doesn't care about winning, only money. In his mind, if a 7-5 coach from the sun belt can get 14 straight sold out home games, hiring a better coach is wasted money. We all want our athletic director fired too, but UF doesn't have a president now for deeper political reasons so there's nobody to fire him. He just gave himself a 5-year contract extension. Gators need to start being fair weathered fans because the only way we'll win championships is if anything less hurts Scott's profit margins.
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>>150684214
Could y'all ask DeSantis. Feels like the guy's always looking for some kind of brownie points from voters.
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>>150684261
>ask some yankee fruit
He would probably have an intern crunch the number and tell him that backing FSU right now is the safer bet and fuck the gators.
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>>150684299
>intern crunch the number and tell him that backing FSU right now is the safer bet and fuck the gators.
Based
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>>150682953
True, cmu is actually elite
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>>150684418
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>number 12 team in the nation
>-3.5 to GT
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srs tho how good are my gooners this year?
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>>150684581
elite defense
offense has weapons but will hinge on the OL not being shit
if they can't run the ball with someone other than mateer their ceiling might be capped
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>>150684581
mateer is gonna die if he keeps having to run as much as he has been
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>>150684581
they look a lot better but i wouldn't read too much into that michigan game, they clearly still have a ton of issues on offense
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>>150684581
>spencer rattler is a starting nfl quarterback
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>Illinois vs Indiana has been flexed to primetime
>in football
>not basketball
Strange times we live in
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>b1g after dark
I now get to blame jet lag for this blowout
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>>150684771
Luke Altmyer taking the nation by storm
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>>150684864
hes no playing in that game anon
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>>150684771
>it’s real
As a U$Cfag season ticket holder I fucking loath these games. Not even getting home until midnight or later is absurd. At least it won’t be hot
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I hope we go all the way
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>>150685098
you just know
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>>150682729
I think FBS teams should play FCS teams only if there is history between the teams and/or a rivalry (think UConn vs CCSU).

Otherwise, I think two P4 matchups should be scheduled and, if you don't want 3 P4s, 1 G6 school.

Example:
>West Virginia
>Has to play Pitt, VA Tech, and UConn in OOC play
>These games can all be at the beginning of the season or at the end (think the Backyard Brawl at the end of the season)
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>>150685021
>U$C
>having to play Michigan State at 11PM ET
>most of the country is asleep

I think conferences should be regional, money be damned
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>>150685098
What uh…what’s with the horse?
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>>150682757
oh it's even worse
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>>150685185
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>>150685195
This is all cope of course but fundamentally he is correct
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>>150685195
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>>150685185
>>150685195
hes not wrong
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Paul is live
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>>150684771
This is not the future I asked for
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>>150685211
>>150685223
oh but wait there's even more
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>>150685185
>>150685195
>>150685222
>dickriding your own dad
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>>150685195
tbf it feels like he's been the only coach in OKST history
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>>150685238
I humbly remind everyone that the same okie lite university president who proudly cancelled the bedlam series was ousted for embezzlement.
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Excited for my gophers to shut up the (((calgorithm))) fags!
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>fans can't be mad they lose 10 FBS games in a row
>last game was 69-3
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NCAA is getting too busy on Friday nights. That's for high school ball.
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>>150685324
most of those are high school teams desu
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>>150685324
I do not give a fuck about high school sports and will not until my daughter is playing them
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>>150684771
Ridiculous. MSU is going to fall asleep.
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>>150685137
>no map breaks
>all teams in the same two time zones since 1932
It just means more
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>>150685532
these should all be separate states btw
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>>150685252
>not going to bat for your family
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>>150685320
imagine how it would've gone if the stupid fans had been coaching!
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>>150685532
>includes six non-founding members
>three founding members gone
>four members had longstanding conference affiliations before joining the SEC
>doesn't even have the entire former CSA (missing NC, VA, WV, and arguably NM and AZ because territories)

It just means less

t. UGA student who isn't an SEC homer
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>>150684627
>elite defense
Based on what? Michigan looked fucking Iowa-tier on offense.
They should just cut their losses and go spread/flexbone option atp
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>>150685725
they held Michigan to like 2 yards per carry outside of that one long run, and Venables said was his fault for calling the wrong defense
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>>150685532
mizzou belongs in the B1G
>b-b-but southern mizzou
shut up
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>>150685985
Mizzou, Texas, OU, and A&M belong in the Big 12

or if you wanna go BACK back, the Big 8 and SWC
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>>150686123
the future is now, old man
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>>150685844
Bro their QB had like a 30% completion percentage. My point is that it's effectively like beating Iowa
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>>150686178
Nebraska qb had an 80 percent completion rate yet still no one has apologized to me
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Paul is live
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>>150685636
yeah where's sewennee for fucks sake the soul is gone plastic conference
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>>150686186
>dicklan areola
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>>150686212
Still not apologizing. You will. I will be less forgiving in the future.
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>Napier has confirmed he will remain play caller

He's trying to get fired. Such a troll
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>>150685532
Bring back the Triangle of Greatness.
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>>150684214
>UF doesn't have a president now
What the fuck?
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>We now go to Anon from Anonville, Anon go ahead.
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>>150682757
I don’t get it
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>>150685636
>WV
>Confederate state
Yes, you are an UGA student.
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>>150686361
>an UGA student.
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>>150685636
>four members had longstanding conference affiliations before joining the SEC
If you're going this route, say 5 not 4.
Arkansas (SWC)
A&M (SWC)
Texas (SWC)
Oklahoma (Big 8)
Mizzou (Big 8)
Big 12 era can be ignored completely for mizzou and A&M at this point considering they were in the big 12 fifteen years and have been in the SEC thirteen now.
>inb4 some retard claims the big 12 is the Big Eight
They're not, and the big 12 has never claimed the big 8's history. Good for them on being better than the PAC-# who larped that they were the same conference as the PCC.

If anyone actually gives a fuck, South Carolina's conference history is an abomination
>30 years in SoCon
>17 Years in the ACC after it split from Socon
>20 years as a football independent
>33 years in the SEC.
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>>150685532
>slavery permitted in all of these areas in 1861
Missouri doesn’t belong in the SEC but at least they fulfill that.
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>>150686335
Not uncommon. FSU didnt have an athletic director for years
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>>150686413
>the SEC welcomes Maryland and Delaware as it's newest members
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>>150685532
>mizzou
>oklahoma
>texas
>those other texas military larper retards
not for me, friend
arkansas and scar are even pushing it
bring back the southwestern conference or big 8 for most of these teams
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>>150686430
Who is leading the university?
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>>150684707
>Nicole Auerbach
She came off as pretty annoying on some halftime show I watched. She wouldn’t shut up
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>>150686335
The university president suddenly resigned in the middle of last year. The president before him came back as an interim. Now a second interim president has been appointed to run things until next August. Generally interim presidents are seat warmers who keep things running without making long term decisions but in this case, the incoming interim is there to make some major changes that the state government wants done like cleaning DEI out of the school. He might leave once the changes are done, taking the anger and blame with him. Or he might be rewarded with the job permanently. Either way, until next August at the soonest, Florida only has an interim president.
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>>150686410
I was gonna say you forgot SCAR for ACC but apparently they were indie for 21 years. I’d still prefer to kick them back to the ACC. It’s been 33 years and still no one cares about them, other than when they meme an upset every few years. At least Our Kansas has their trophy with LSU.
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>>150686448
Well, about that...
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who the fuck cares about the purity of the SEC so long as the real bluebloods are there and the other teams are in the general south and southeast and are good?
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>>150686453
Everyone agrees with this but considering we’re in the superconference era the current SEC is a minor miracle. All slave states and all southeast of the geographic center of the US. Easily the best P4 geography and arguably the best geography overall, competing only with the MAC.
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>>150686519
Oh that’s fine if there’s an interim.
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>>150686577
Not caring about purity is how we ended up with California in the B1G and ACC.
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>>150686599
The MAC is getting iffy with UMass and earlier adding Buffalo. The Sun Belt isn't all that bad, especially since they still have geographic divisions.
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>Fuchs' interim role, which paid him an annual base salary of $1 million, was expected to end in June after the university's Presidential Search Committee thought it found Sasse's permanent replacement in Dr. Santa Ono, then the president of the University of Michigan. The UF board unanimously approved him on May 27.
>The Board of Governors, however, declined to confirm Ono — the first time in the BOG's history it voted down a university trustee board's leadership selection.
Why does Florida hate Santa? Did some have a bad time in Frankenmuth?
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>>150686674
It’d better without Buffalo but they’re at least in the far west of New York, they border a Great Lake and they’re definitely in the rust belt. Only problem is there’s no Pennsylvania school so you have to leave the MAC states to get to them.
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Florida's board rejected him because he was too involved with DEI, something they want to curb. Which is a bit ironic, because at Michigan he was criticized for not supporting DEI enough. He now works for Larry Ellison.
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>>150686413
If we let slavery become the standard then fucking Mormans are eligible.
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>>150686630
No one other then tv networks wanted this.
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>>150686843
Up until 2022, Utah had a school named Dixie State. Too bad Mormons are rapidly becoming globalist cucks.
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>>150686460
Board of trustees
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>>150687157
i'd sit the kid, but they're gonna need everything they got
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>>150684261
Rumor has it, he's trying to get his wife that job. It's a problem much bigger than losing football games.
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>>150686843
They’re not in the southeastern quadrant of the US so no.
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>>150685253
>Forgetting Les Miles
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>>150686893
The schools themselves did because money from those networks. Also it’s dumb that they broke Texas and Mississippi up the opposite of where the schools actually are.
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>>150687507
>someone born the last year les coached at OSU can legally drink in the United States now
I can't even blame zoomers for not remembering him there
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>>150686716
DEI background. Anyone who has that is poison right now, so I’m expecting some hires outside the box sooner or later.
t. PhD student (one more year, God willing)
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>>150686918
>becoming
They already are. There’s faux-conservatives knee deep in both the Temple and the Feds. Huntsman, Romney, etc.
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Gundybros how did it unravel so fast?
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>>150687787
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>>150687881
Good thing he died before seeing Okie State get left behind.
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>>150687787
He can bounce back right? Right?
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EMAW, /cfb/. How are you dealing with pain if you lose or lost an important piece of your lineup this last weekend? Not sure if our important RB would be available for the Friday night game, but hope it doesn't comes crashing down, so we can start breaking the curse down.
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>>150687287
he would just transfer
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>>150688017
i think he retires at the end of the season
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>>150687994
his death is what caused it lol. he gave ok state like $500m over the course of gundy's tenure.
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>>150688123
>important rb
plug in another speedy little picaninny and call it a day
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>>150682822
The real question is, how does he actually get hired. Like, people interviewed this dumbass and thought he could lead a program like Florida?

Shit is suspect desu
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>>150688240
Did you watch the Netflix SEC show? He came off as mentally retarded. Slow.
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>>150688288
There’s no guaranteed wins left for them, dang.
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>>150688288
imagine the memes if LSU lose to them next week and Florida still end 2-10
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Ok?
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>>150688501
Could end up like this.
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>>150687881
>september 11
oh shit
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>>150686335
We tried to hire Santa Ono this year but the board of governors (state government) vetoed it because he didn't bend the knee to Israel hard enough.
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>>150688633
I'm sure Alabama is eager to return to the Music City Bowl. They were last there in on New Year's Eve, 2004, where they lost 20-16 to Glen Mason's Minnesota Golden Gophers.
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>>150687287
If he plays this week, I will root against the Gators in football until our HC is replaced because that means every reason I like the Gators doesn't apply.
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>>150688651
They might lose against Mississippi State and Kentucky unless they turn it around real quick.
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>>150688302
i definitely don't think he's the smartest head coach (obviously) but he does have unfortunate manner of speech and facial expressions
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>>150687584
i'm 31 and i barely remember it
my brain associates him almost entirely with LSU
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>>150687372
Doesn't seem likely if he still wants to run for president but maybe if he wants to get a senate seat, her being UF's president would be viable.
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>>150688825
1-11 would be insane. Guess it would be good for making others in the conference bowl eligible.
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>>150688573
.si ti ereht dnA
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Heres your gameday game bros
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>>150689063
-3.5 spread
should be competitive

they were going to go to WVU/PITT until WVU fucked that up
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pretty kino schedule this week, I like the cal/minnesota late game
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I thought about Mike Rozier today
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>>150689175
What games really are there? There’s the A&M-ND fraudb owl, which I think is interesting since the loser should be removed from the T25
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I don't think anyone has ever mentioned my school in these threads
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>>150688633
Give Sparty the Myrtle Beach Bowl, cowards
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>>150689460
BE QUIET EMORY DONT YOU UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF OUR MISSION
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>>150689489
More North. The only time anyone would have ever heard of my school are the times they randomly played in Michigan Stadium as the home team, despite not even being located in Michigan
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What are we watching this week boys?

Thursday, September 11:
>NC State at Wake Forest [19:30 EST]

Friday, September 12:
>Colorado at Houston [19:30 EST]
>Kansas State at Arizona [21:00 EST]
>New Mexico at UCLA [22:00 EST]

Saturday, September 13:
>Oregon at Northwestern [12:00 EST]
>Oklahoma at Temple [12:00 EST]
>Central Michigan at Michigan [12:00 EST]
>Clemson at Georgia Tech [12:00 EST]
>Wisconsin at Alabama [12:00 EST]
>USC at Purdue [15:30 EST]
>Oregon State at Texas Tech [15:30 EST]
>Washington State at North Texas [15:30 EST]
>Pitt at West Virginia [15:30 EST]
>Georgia at Tennessee [15:30 EST]
>USF at Miami (FL) [16:30 EST]
>Appalachian State at Southern Miss [19:00 EST]
>Arkansas at Ole Miss [19:00 EST]
>Ohio at Ohio State [19:00 EST]
>Florida at LSU [19:30 EST]
>Texas A&M at Notre Dame [19:30 EST]
>Vanderbilt at South Carolina [19:45 EST]
>Duke at Tulane [20:00 EST]
>Navy at Tulsa [20:00 EST]
>Utah at Wyoming [20:00 EST]
>Air Force at Utah State [21:45 EST]
>Minnesota at California [22:30 EST]
>Texas State at Arizona State [22:30 EST]
>Boston College at Stanford [22:30 EST]
>Portland State at Hawaii [23:59 EST]
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>>150689446
where is Arch?
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>>150689460
>he goes to Slippery Cock U
lmaoing@u
who the fuck they beat
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>>150689541
Fuck you we won the 1958 Beaver Bowl
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>>150688123
Darius Taylor has a leg thing that might or might not be serious. I'm hoping it's not bad but there's nothing i can do and my hype for Lindsey vs Sagapolutele outweighs it significantly.
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>>150689533
>florida/lsu
>ass2mouth/ND
>USF/Miami

lots of fraud offs this week wew
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>>150689562
Oh, my bad.
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>>150689533
Central Michigan gonna shock the world
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>>150689540
Hopefully out practicing until he earns his name to be on the list.
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>>150686361
>WV
>Confederate State

Yes. Yes it was.
>voted overwhelmingly for secession
>contributed more men to the CSA to the Union
>areas occupied by Union forces created the Restored Govt of VA, would later vote to become a new state in West Virginia (only 18% of the state population in those occupied areas turned out)
>is today more Southern culturally than a lot of Southern states

>>150686410
>Big 12 era can be ignored completely for mizzou and A&M at this point considering they were in the big 12 fifteen years and have been in the SEC thirteen now.
I view A&M and Mizzou's time in the Big XII as an extension of their time in the SWC and Big 8 respectively as successors to those conferences, a distinct entity therefrom
>If anyone actually gives a fuck, South Carolina's conference history is an abomination
Yeah, I was focusing more on the Western Schools than SCAR, but SCAR was included under "six non-founding members" (Texas, Oklahoma, TAMU, Mizzou, Arkansas, South Carolina).
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>>150689540
Still learning the offense
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>>150688123
well Wildcat Willie, we lost two key offensive pieces in Jaden Bray and Jahiem White that are most likely going to be out for the rest of the season.
>Big 12 reffies also denying WVU a game-shifting catch and missing a facemask on the Bobbies against Cam Vaughan, the ref in question being VanderVelde, who has a history of shitty calls against WVU

Reid Carrico, one of our LBs, might be out against Pitt, but we're not sure. All I can hope is WVU upsets Pitt now and if we go 2-10 I don't care, we beat Pitt and that's all that matters. On the other side, Georgia's doing alright for itself

EMAW!
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It looks like that Ok State loss is going to force Gundy to step down and retire at the end of the season.
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>>150689655
Twitter said he lost the local media dickriders, so it’s probably open season. Who will they hire?
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>>150689533
>Clempus will be unranked by week three
:)
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utah to make the playoffs +270 is free money with that schedule
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>>150689669
Jimbo!
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>>150689677
Please win this week. For the mass
>clempus 'ing
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>>150689677
I want Georgia Tech to win until the end of the season so we (UGA) have a ranked match in Atlanta for shits and giggles
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>>150689669
Kendal Briles
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>>150689742
everyone seems to think you are gonna make it a game
at open clemson -9.5
about to be -3
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>>150689651
>VanderVelde, who has a history of shitty calls against WVU
Problem?
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>>150689678
>texas tech
>Sparky
>@BYU
>@baylor
>@kansas

>free money
Yeah...
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>>150689866
>a history of shitty calls
hypothetically speaking in Minecraft, at what point will a disgruntled fan pull a Luigi on one of these corrupt referees?
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>>150689619
>today
The Confederacy doesn't exist today and the rest of your babbling is irrelevant.
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>>150689915
When a referee call loses someone their house and car that they bet on the game
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>>150689915
id rather see a player tackle them during a game lol
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>>150689968
based
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>>150689955
Would those nerdy bitches
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Coach primate
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USF will beat Miami

Checkem
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>150690068
There it is
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>>150689940
It's right here bro
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>>150690068
and there it is
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>>150689968
it's funny because he obviously feels bad that it happened, but doesn't really care that much to go check on him or say "my bad"
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>Caleb Williams is good
Reminder to always draft QBs /cfb/ hates
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>>150691038
joe buck explained exactly why I didn't like him at USC
he was a holding on to the ball merchant, if he manages to outgrow that bs then good on him
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Say something nice about my team
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>>150691119
they produced one of my favorite pics
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>>150691038
going all in on nico iamaleava, thanks for the advice
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>>150689619
A&M and Texas both never wanted to be in the Big 12, and the reasons for that have been discussed at length (despite tacofag and the odd baylorfag bitching about it). Even so, Texas ran the conference and A&M won it once and shattered Nebraska’s hopes and dreams of 21st century relevancy so that coupled with Gene Stallings and Jackie Sherrill being Alabama people I’m willing to say they’re more SEC than Arkansas. Texas would’ve gone to the PAC, but they fucked it up and a retard being in charge of the PAC ensured its demise so they had nowhere else to go but the SEC. The package deal with Oklahoma sans Okie Lite was too good to pass up. It makes sense. Missouri got involved because of their own connection with A&M, which has also been laid out prior.

This has all been discussed at length. Dunno why people still argue about why and how and who belongs where. The B1G wasn’t going to take Missouri.
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>>150691556
I was about to ask how ass to mouth managed to do that but then I remembered Bo Pellini breaking a reporter’s camera after losing a close game and shit breaking down soon after. Bo was the last winning coach they had.
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>>150691287
Well, even if /cfb/ hates them they have to show SOME talent. Williams, as gay as he is, showed that he had SOME talent at Oklahoma / USC.
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>>150691556
>54 championships
>doesn't matter because none of them are for football
haha this sucks man
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>>150691269
That man absolutely hated working for the Florida fan base. He was so excited to get a fat buy out from them
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>>150689619
They voted to leave the confederacy bro. That’s why they exist.
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>>150692760
rent free
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why did the vikings think that a handoff merchant who played for a team that cheated would be a franchise QB
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After seeing this i believe again the Lions have a chance
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>>150692760
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>>150693284
I wouldn’t have drafted him due to his performative pregame meditation. Huge red flag.
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>>150691038
he's looked like utter garbage since the scripted plays stopped
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>>150693284
>>150693376
>>>/sp/nfl
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>>150691556
Tacofag never bitched about it. Some faggot would always start crying that his poor little longhorns had to not be massive faggots for 5 secs
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>>150695203
Texas tech is actually in the cultural sphere of the big 12. Lubbock is so much more similar to a city in Kansas than it is to college station its not even funny. You fags do not understand texas
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>>150695402
Ok man I’m a TTU guy but I’m not that obsessed with everything
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>>150685324
If UCLA loses to New Mexico they should shut the football program down desu senpaitachi.
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>>150695777
Even if they win they will have a spiritual loss to New Mexico. NM's old QB and OC are at Utah and they BTFO'd UCLA. Their old RB is at USC and they will shit on UCLA too.
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>>150693284
>>150694109
>Harbaugh wins
>JJ wins
haters gonna hate
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>gayleb
the bears are hilarious, they literally cannot evaluate qb talent, the only legit starter they've had in the last 40 years was jay cutler on a trade. at this point it's less about laughing and more just sheer amazement at the generational ineptitude and tonight they had to watch their zesty little bitch get shown up by a kid that hadn't played football in over a year in his first nfl start.
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>poo-niversity of flolorida gayturds
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>>150689799
>everyone seems to think you are gonna make it a game
When I say we I mean UGA not GA Tech

>>150691556
I don't think Mizzou to B1G was ever an option

>>150692869
Read what I listed again but slower
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>>150695203
>>150695402
>>150695529
I've always thought it was a faggie who loved to complain about the Big 12 as that was who originally started complaining about the "left behinds", Ann Richards, the "tacofag" and making all of the "insider" texas politics and "heres how big tu and a&m's endowment is and you won't be getting any of it" posts. I'm not a texas guy so I don't know the differnet talking points for each school but something new caught my eye in this last post. Do you think we could we see the addition of "the odd hornfrogfag" with the right results in a couple weeks? Or am I speculating too much to cope with the NFL posting?
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>>150697508
You haven't been here long enough to see tacofag's drunken rants or the time he dox'd himself bragging about his shot put record in high school, I see.
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>>150697785
I was but I can't remember which was him.
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>>150697785
I've been here for years mate, and all I've ever seen is your obsession, self-doxing aside.
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>>150697829
horkey i remember that name lmao
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>>150697785
>he thinks there’s only one tacofag
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>Brian Kelly is gonna retire Napier on live television
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>>150697508
If anything it’s shown me that Texas teams viscously hate each other to the core
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>>150698167
Not since before Leach got fired.
>>150698183
Oh genie of the warehouse, grant me this wish.
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>>150698199
>Not since before Leach got fired
I doubt that
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>>150698234
Why are you one? Post unofficial transcript.
>>150698183
I would laugh so hard if Billy got fucking shitcanned immediately after that loss when the president put out that fucking memo
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>>150691038
Status update?
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>>150698197
As a Texasfag that's been to both A&M and Tx State I can say it's mostly due to undergrads trying to pull academic snobbery despite only like Rice actually being worth the snobbery.
>sorry texass fags you're just a hot and cramped big10 school
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>>150691038
Longtime hater here: couldn't be more pleased with his performance tonight.
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>>150697442
Most of what you listed was just as wrong when read slowly as when read at normal speed. A majority of future West Virginia counties voted not to secede and far more voters voted not to secede. Which, as I said, is why the state even exists in the first place. Also they sent more soldiers to the union.
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>>150696355
Statistically there’s no way they just happened to have drafted bad QBs 75 years in a row. They just suck at managing and developing them. There’s a timeline where Mitchie just won his second ring on the Chiefs and Mahomes is a journeyman. In another Gayleb is balling out for the commies while everyone is talking about how stupid the Bears were to take Daniels over him.
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>>150698741
Half of me thinks it’s a good thing that men in prominent positions are now being more open about their mental health struggles, making it easier for other men to do the same.

The other half thinks Caleb and Ryan are fucking faggots.
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>>150682729
>/cfb/ still can’t move on from a guy who hasn’t played college ball in over a year
Rent-free
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>>150698778
fag williams did not deserve the heisman that year, it was a DEI heisman
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>>150691119
Lexington isn't Louisville.
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>>150695777
UCLA getting into the Big Ten is like when Colorado got into the PAC12. It was their "Now I can get fat" moment. UCLA found its beta provider. Now they can be lazy and not give a fuck. Their future is assured no matter how much they suck.
>>150697442
Missouri certainly wanted to be in the Big Ten but the time just wasn't right. In the pre-internet era, Kansas City and St. Louis were where companies would do market tests for new products because they were the average of various regional cultures. Missouri fits in everywhere and nowhere. They are the definition of mid.
While I understand the Big Ten's research consortium fetish, if they saw the cord cutting epidemic coming, they likely would have favored Missouri (Big 12 or SEC) over Rutgers. But that round of realignment came about half a decade too soon.
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>>150697829
Anyone know anything about shot put? Is that anon's record very good?
When I was a graduate teaching assistant at an SEC school, one of my students was a track and field fag. He was one spot away from making the US Olympic shot put team. It would have been fun to point to him on tv and tell people I "taught him everything he knows", leaving out that the class was introduction computers, and not shot put.
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>>150698197
No doubt that's completely true but when you scratch below the surface, it seems for the anons here to be mostly about PUF money and the belief that schools like Taco Tech would be thought of as world class if not for UT and A&M getting the lion's share of PUF. That ignores the fact that if Taco was at the same level as the state's flagship schools, those anons might not have been able to get in. Instead they would be bitching about how UT, A&M, and TT are PUF hogs and that's why Texas State isn't world class.
Now the private schools like Baylor and TCU, that's actual cultural hate.
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>>150698197
>viscously
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>>150699123
The hatred is thick lol
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>>150698964
Who should have won it? Duggan?
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>>150691038
there isn't a single qb that /cfb/ dont hate
except HIM
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What’s stopping a coach like Napier or Gundy from completely mailing it in and giving minimal effort to his job just so he can get fired and get paid a massive buyout? At some point, you have to realize that it doesn’t matter if you work 100 hours a week or 60 hours a week if you know that your team sucks and you have millions of dollars just waiting on you after you’re shoved out the door.
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>>150699739
you don't make it to this level of coaching without a massive competitive spirit that drives you to want to win more than wanting to just collect a check.
also depending on how obvious your "lack of give a fuck"-ness is, it could be a career-ender if prospective employers think you're just gonna laze around and try and collect buyouts; at the very least it'll mean you don't get paid jack at your next job.
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>>150698286
>post unofficial transcript
Oh hey you’re that weirdo
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>>150699775
True but if you know you’re going to get fired, there isn’t much difference between going 4-8 and 2-10. You can always drop down to FCS for a few years and have a comfy job making 300k a year and not have to deal with multimillionaire diva NIL players and billionaire boosters.
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>>150699116
It’s more about money at least to me
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Was there ever a breakdown on which conferences have the hottest women?
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>>150700091
SEC probably has the hottest but there’s something about girls from the Midwest and how pleasant they are that does it for me so Big XII may surprise you
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>>150683472
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>>150683472
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>>150699739
>>150699775
>>150699920
jimbo made like $100m from literally not giving a fuck
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>>150700256
He seemed like he was actually trying though. Bobby Petrino’s last year at Louisville is a better example
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>>150691038
>>Caleb Williams is good
oh no no no caleb sisters we got too cocky
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Miami/Nebraska was the best rivalry of circumstance.
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Does Josh Pate actually know ball?
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My Bobcats are going to beat aOSU
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Who is your favorite 1960 National Champion
>Minnesota
>Iowa
>Ole Miss
>Mizzou
>Washington
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>>150683472
>>150700154
>>150700171
Wow the years really do start coming and they don't stop coming. Seems like yesterday I was shit posting in my first apartment with you in 2009/2010
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>>150700643
Hot Minnesota girls keep getting posted in these threads so I’ll go with Minnesota
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>>150700643
Going for Minnesota for the same reasons as >>150700782

Love the Gopher whores.
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>>150699907
>there's only one transcript weirdo
Take your meds.
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>>150700643
Iowa had an absolute gauntlet that year. But I’m also racist so Ole Miss.
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>>150700772
Simpler times.
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>>150699062
UCLA already didn't give a fuck in the Pac 12. Their last conference champinship was in 1998 and their last Rose Bowl win was in 1985. They just have an exceptionally shitty coach right now that's making the problem even worse.
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>>150700878
Can't argue with that but now they're going to get even more money for being lazy sacks of shit. Having USC vouch for them was an epic favor.
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>>150700787
>>150700782
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heh... manningz just needs more time
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coach primate
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UGA-UT is this weekend and I have yet to see the UT frog anon post
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>>150701810
https://ut.edu

when did University of Tampa get a football team?
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Primebros... what's happening to our coach?
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>>150701810
>UGA-UT
Tennessee isn't playing Georgia this week.
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>>150685532
>two time zones
still too many
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>>150700772
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>>150700817
Yeah it’s you why the fuck would I give out any info on this site
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>>150702215
>UGA-UT
supposedly they are
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>>150702256
That's because our time zones are retarded. This is what they should look like. UF and Texas would be just outside the Central Time Zone. South Carolina would have to be replaced, probably with Clemson. Guess UF could be replaced with Florida State, leaving Texas as the only problematic member, which is kind of their thing.
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>>150702256
El Paso is in the Mountain time zone
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>>150702378
so even if we re-drew time zones to match your autism, there would still be teams outside of central?
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>>150702277
>didn't go to school
>tries to pretend to have something worth saying
Post transcript
>>150702378
The timezones are based on longitude, there's not much you can do about that besides shift everyone to UTC (which is fucking retarded).
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>>150702462
No you fucking freak
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>>150702537
Damn, why are you so mad about not going to college?
>>150702266
Tru dat, lex...true dat.
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>>150702537
post transcript wussy
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>>150702558
I went to college but I’m not going to show you anything with my information. Why do you fucking need to see it
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>>150702297
More please
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>>150702146
He’s going to go 3-9, step down for health reasons, and go back to yelling at the camera in a media job
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>>150702462
This map >>150702378 is based on longitude. What we have in actual use is a patch work of political decisions that causes local time to deviate away from solar time. It's not like the US in unique in this. Lots of countries, especially China with its one time zone for the entire country, are far worse.
>>150702440
South Carolina, Florida, and Texas would be the only members outside of the Central Time Zone. Swapping Clemson and FSU in for the first two would be viable, but Texas wants to be with Oklahoma, so either Texas gets to be special or both have to be replaced/eliminated.
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>>150702589
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>>150683499
>It's up!
Who the fuck cares? We saw the games, nobody gives a shit about your gay ass "reaction," fuck off.
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>>150684581
>srs tho how good are my gooners this year?
Nothing special. Michigan is overrated (as usual).
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>>150702654
Luckily I’m not retarded and knew your were based on longitude. How could someone look at our current time zones and think they’re based on longitude?
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>>150702653
>it’s all hot blondes
Man Minnesota gives the southern schools a run for their money
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>>150702669
Slick Rick, you are missed. Loved you on Dancing with the Stars.
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>>150689446
It's always funny when people pretend a lineman has a cold chance in hell at winning the Heisman. That award is so fucking dumb it is unreal.
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>>150702215
????
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>>150702757
Look I still think Creed Humphrey should have at least been considered. Best Center to ever play the game.
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>>150703248
why do black people not play center in cfb or the nfl?

creed was based at OU
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>>150683090
I would take Tulane over anyone else in the American
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Paul is live
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>>150703568
You're right, I typed Tulsa when I meant Tulane. Good catch.
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>>150702757
Not a cornfag but Suh deserved it
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no
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>>150703309
requires more than "run fast" or "be fat"
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>>150702669
How the fuck can you get into Vet school with those kind of grades?
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>>150686561
haha! Morgantown is rightful SEC Country!
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>>150683090
>The only respectable programs left out of the power 4
>No sunbelt, CUSA, or MAC teams need apply
You must be using shekelstein's axiom for measuring respectability.
Because in my own research I rate Toledo, Ohio, and Buffalo as respectable programs.
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>>150689460
This is college football, not quidditch
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>>150704317
You would be wrong
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>>150700643
Mississippi, again, was #2 and had the best record among the contenders at 10-0-1, so it is possible that they would have simply risen to #1 in a post-bowl poll. But 10-1 Washington, the team that actually beat the #1 team 17-7 in the Rose Bowl, could have vaulted all the way from #6 to #1 with that win. We have seen the powerful effect of Lastgamitis on voters in poll after poll, and voters were far more swayed by a team's last game played during this time period than they are today. Mississippi's Sugar Bowl opponent was a joke, unrated 7-4 Rice, and Mississippi's performance against them was weak, a 14-6 win. Mississippi's schedule was incredibly weak in general, and that had been the knock on them all season. That's one reason why 8-1 Minnesota had been rated #1 ahead of them at the end of the regular season to begin with.

Mississippi and Washington are the teams most people focus on for a 1960 post-bowl national champion. Two post-bowl national championship selectors from that season split on the decision. The Football Writers Association of America gave their Grantland Rice Trophy to Mississippi, while the Helms Foundation, based in Los Angeles, named Washington their national champion. Both schools claim these national championships. But there is actually a third team that might have finished #1 in a post-bowl AP poll, and in fact I think they had at least as strong a chance as the other 2 teams had. That team was Iowa (#3 and 8-1).
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>>150704061
Yep he was a force of nature that season
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>>150705431
Iowa did not play in a bowl game, a severe handicap to be sure-- so why do I think they might have passed up Mississippi for #1 in a post-bowl poll? Well, first of all, the vote at the end of the regular season was very close. Minnesota had 17.5 first place votes, Mississippi had 16, and Iowa had 12.5-- a mere 3.5 votes behind Mississippi (Mississippi also had the same slim lead in total poll points, 411 to 407.5). So it would have taken very little for Iowa to move past Mississippi. The week prior to the final poll, Iowa had 17.5 first place votes, Minnesota 13.5, and Mississippi 13, and none of those teams played a significant game after that, so we can see the arbitrary volatility of the voting right there. The main reason some voters switched from Iowa to Minnesota that week is because it was announced that Minnesota was going to the Rose Bowl.

At the end of the regular season, the 30 voters (of 48) who voted for either Minnesota or Iowa had something in common-- they were voting for the Big 10 champion (the 2 teams split the title). The Big 10 was definitely the strongest conference in 1960, posting a stunning 19-2-2 record against nonconference opponents. Once Minnesota lost the Rose Bowl, it is not a stretch to think that a large portion of Minnesota's voters would have switched to Iowa-- even though quite a few of them had Mississippi 2nd, Iowa 3rd. Some of them had switched from Iowa to Minnesota in the week prior to the last AP poll, then moved Mississippi past Iowa to be "fair and balanced" to other regions.
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>>150705466
One problem Mississippi faced was the race issue. Some voters--throughout the 1960s-- admitted to a bias in their ratings against schools/teams that only allowed white students/players. But Mississippi's weak Sugar Bowl result alone might have been enough to close the 3.5 vote gap between the schools. That came on top of Mississippi's already weak schedule. They played only 1 rated opponent, and that team, #7 Arkansas, was upset by #10 Duke in the Cotton Bowl (and Duke had been upset by unrated 7-2-1 UCLA the week after the final AP poll). Meanwhile, as various writers pointed out in the month after the final AP poll, Iowa had defeated 4 rated opponents-- twice as many as any other team, and 4 times as many as Ole Miss.

We'll never know what would have happened, but my guess is that Iowa would have slipped by Mississippi in a post-bowl poll.
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>>150705482
Washington generated the most excitement during the bowl season, so it is reasonable to conclude that they had a real chance of jumping from #6 to #1 in a post-bowl poll. That big a jump to #1 is unprecedented in AP poll history, so it is far from a given that it would have happened, but there have been 2 cases that were close to that big a jump. Notre Dame leapt from #5 to #1 by beating the previous #1 team in their bowl game to finish both the 1973 and 1977 seasons. However, there are some key differences between Notre Dame 1973/1977 and Washington 1960. The first, of course, is that Notre Dame is Notre Dame, the most beloved football program of writers at that time. Washington had nowhere near the same name value.

Also, the teams Notre Dame defeated in their bowl games in those seasons were dominating #1 teams, and so it was very impressive that Notre Dame beat them. But Minnesota barely outpointed Mississippi and Iowa for #1 in 1960, and did not even come close to having a majority of the first place votes (they had 36%). And Notre Dame had at least as strong a straight record as all the teams they passed up in the final 1973 and 1977 AP polls, whereas Washington would have needed to pass up at least one team with a better record in 1960.

When a #1 team loses their bowl game, the team that beat them usually moves to #1-- but not always. Texas was a dominating #1 at the end of the regular season in 1970 (30 game winning streak), and Notre Dame upset them in the Cotton Bowl, but the 10-1 Irish, who had been #6 going into the bowls that year, wound up #2 behind 11-0-1 Nebraska. And if the great and beloved Notre Dame, beating a far more respected and clear-cut #1 team in their bowl game, could not quite jump from #6 to #1 to finish the 1970 season, what chance did Washington have of doing so after beating barely-#1 Minnesota in the 1961 Rose Bowl? It's possible, but the more I look at this, the less likely it seems.
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>>150705515
A post-bowl poll would have given us a very, very close 3-team race for #1. My guess is that Iowa would have won out, but it could have been any of these 3 teams, and they could have fallen in any order.

So who SHOULD have been ranked #1? Well, definitely not Mississippi. Mississippi's only argument for #1 was the fact that they had the best straight record among the contenders. But Yale was 9-0 and New Mexico State 11-0 this season-- why should 10-0-1 Mississippi be rated higher than them? The answer, of course, is exactly the same as why 8-1 Iowa, for example, should be rated higher than Mississippi-- a vastly tougher schedule. The fact that Mississippi was 10-0-1 and Iowa 8-1 is not as relevant as the fact that Mississippi was 1-0 against rated teams and was tied by an unrated opponent, while Iowa was 4-1 against rated teams. That's all you should need to know right there.

Rating Mississippi higher because they took an upset tie, while Iowa took an upset loss, is overly simplistic. Mississippi's tie came to an unrated opponent (5-4-1 Louisiana State) at home, whereas Iowa's loss came to a top 5 opponent (8-2 Minnesota) on the road. I would think that taking a tie to an unrated opponent at home is worse than taking a loss to a top 5 team on the road-- no contest. At the very best for Mississippi, one could argue that these results were equitable. But there is no way one can rationally call Mississippi's tie a better result than Iowa's loss. So it is logically incorrect to merely conclude that 10-0-1 > 8-1 and leave it at that.
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>>150705564
And when you compare their wins, there is no contest here. Iowa defeated 4 rated teams, Mississippi 1. Look closer at those wins, and Iowa's case becomes even stronger. Mississippi's 1 win over a rated opponent was 10-7 at #7 Arkansas. They were outgained in that game, but won on a controversial field goal (Arkansas coach Frank Broyles after the game: "Everybody in the park knew it wasn't good"). And 8-3 Arkansas was not a legitimate #7 team. They lost to 8-3 Duke in the Cotton Bowl, who lost to 7-2-1 UCLA a week after the final AP poll. Furthermore, 5-4 Michigan defeated Duke by a rather decisive 31-6, and should be rated higher than both Duke and Arkansas. As should 6-2-1 Michigan State (beat Michigan) and 4-4-1 Purdue (beat Minnesota and #8 Ohio State, tied UCLA).

Iowa victims Ohio State (#8), Kansas (#11), Michigan State (#15), and Purdue (#19) are all going to be ranked higher in the fixed poll (as detailed below). Ohio State would have moved to #7 in a post-bowl AP poll (due to Arkansas losing), and Kansas would likely have moved from #11 to #8 (since 3 teams ahead of them were upset after the final poll).

The Big 10 was 19-2-2 against nonconference opponents this season, and while the SEC wasn't far behind at 34-7-1, there was a huge difference in the conference teams Iowa and Mississippi played. Iowa played all 4 of the other ranked teams from their conference (8-2 Minnesota, 7-2 Ohio State, 6-2-1 Michigan State, and 4-4-1 Purdue), while Mississippi did not play any of the other 3 ranked teams from their conference (8-1-2 Alabama, 8-2 Auburn, and 9-2 Florida).
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>>150705583
On top of all that, there is Mississippi's highly unimpressive 14-6 win over unrated 7-4 Rice in the Sugar Bowl. Rice wasn't bad-- they will finish #25 in the fixed and expanded AP top 25 (covered below). But beating them by a mere touchdown was more the performance of a #10 team than a #1 team. As was Mississippi's 10-7 win over Arkansas, who will be #14 in the fixed AP poll (their best win was 3-0 over Rice at home). The home tie with LSU, on the other hand, was the performance of a #30-40 team.

Mississippi is not close to meriting a #1 ranking. They look more like #5 to #9. If you want a perfect example of the hypocrisy of the AP poll, compare 10-0-1 Mississippi to 1963's 9-0-1 Memphis. That 1963 Memphis team had virtually the same record as 1960 Mississippi, and their tie came to a top 10 team rather than to an unrated team. Their best win, over 7-2-2 Mississippi State (coaches' poll #11), was at least comparable to Mississippi's "big" win over 8-3 Arkansas (I would say better), and they won more handily than Mississippi over Arkansas. And 1963 Memphis won the rest of their games by more than a touchdown each, whereas 1960 Mississippi struggled to get by 7-4 Rice. Yet 1963 Memphis was not even rated in the AP top 10, while 1960 Mississippi was rated #2!

Had 1960 Mississippi been named "Memphis," with exactly the same results, they would not even be in the discussion for #1. And they shouldn't be. So they hereby aren't.
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>>150705595
8-1 Iowa obviously has the strongest argument for #1. They played 5 teams that were rated by the AP poll, a 6th who will make the fixed and expanded AP top 25 (5-4 Northwestern), and 2 teams that were nearly rated (6-3-1 Oregon State and 4-5 Wisconsin-- who took all 5 of their losses to teams that will be rated, and defeated 2), all in their first 8 games, no off week or cupcake until their 9th game at 2-8 Notre Dame. 10-1 Washington played just 2 rated opponents, a 3rd who will make the fixed poll, and 2 nearly rated teams.

Performance? Washington's loss (15-14 to 9-2 Navy) was better than Iowa's loss (27-10 at 8-2 Minnesota), but their 17-7 win over 8-2 Minnesota was no better than Iowa's 35-12 win over 7-2 Ohio State, and all of Iowa's wins were vastly better than Washington's trio of 1-point escapes from unrated opponents: 30-29 at 6-3-1 Oregon State (Iowa beat them 22-12), 7-6 over 7-3-1 Oregon, and 8-7 at 4-5-1 Washington State. Washington also beat 7-2-1 UCLA 10-8, and though UCLA will be #10 in the fixed poll (covered below), Iowa beat 3 teams that will make the top 10, all by more than a touchdown. So Iowa performed much better against a much tougher schedule.

Washington's main argument is that they beat Minnesota 17-7, who beat Iowa 27-10. But the problem with this line of thinking is 10-1 Missouri-- they beat 9-2 Navy 21-14, who beat Washington 15-14. Should Missouri be #1? But then Missouri lost 23-7 to 7-2-1 Kansas, whom Iowa defeated 21-7, so we've got a full circle here. If we look at schedule and performance to break the circle, that clearly points to Iowa.
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>>150705610
However, there is one scenario by which Washington could legitimately be ranked #1-- if Minnesota were also ranked ahead of Iowa. The top 3 would have to look like this: #1 Washington, #2 Minnesota, #3 Iowa. Washington beat Minnesota 17-7 in the Rose Bowl, so that much is a lock, and Minnesota did beat Iowa by a very convincing score of 27-10. Iowa was the only rated opponent Minnesota defeated, but all 8 of their wins came by more than a touchdown, so Minnesota's schedule and performance were just close enough to Iowa's that I could accept Washington > Minnesota > Iowa as the top 3.

So why not Missouri #1, Navy #2, Washington #3, Minnesota #4, Iowa #5? This victory chain is not as strong. Navy's 15-14 win at Washington came early in the season, and it was far weaker than Washington's win over Minnesota or Minnesota's over Iowa, both of which came late in the season. Also, Navy only won because Washington bobbled a punt snap, gifting Navy with a winning field goal in the final minute. And Washington was the only rated team Navy defeated. Navy's performance against unrated opponents was weak, and their upset loss, 19-10 at Duke, was also the worst of any of these teams' upset losses with the possible exception of Missouri's loss to Kansas. As to that, Missouri makes a weaker #1 team than Washington because their loss, which came in the regular season finale, was a rout, whereas Washington's one loss was razor-close, and came early in the season. One can easily see Washington's loss as a fluke, but Missouri had no chance at all of winning that game with Kansas. So no, I don't quite see Missouri as a viable option for #1.
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>>150705644
I do think that Washington > Minnesota > Iowa is a weaker rating option than putting Iowa at #1. The 3rd and 4th best teams in the Big 10 were #8 Ohio State (7-2) and #15 Michigan State (6-2-1), and Iowa beat both by more than a touchdown, while Minnesota didn't even play either team. And Iowa also beat 6-3-1 Oregon State and #11 Kansas (7-2-1), while Minnesota played a pair of losing nonconference opponents. That's a pretty big schedule difference, and it's why Iowa was so close to Minnesota in the final AP poll (just 5 fewer first-place votes), despite the fact that they had the same record and Minnesota had beaten them 27-10. Still, weaker or not, Washington > Minnesota > Iowa is a viable option-- so which option do we go with, Iowa at #1 or Washington?

We go with the option the AP poll itself is pointing toward: Iowa at #1. First of all, it is certain that Minnesota would have fallen behind Iowa in a post-bowl AP poll-- their lead over Iowa wasn't much to begin with. And once that choice is made, Washington is just not quite a viable option to be ranked ahead of Iowa. Minnesota had 433.5 poll points, Iowa 407.5, and Washington 250. And Minnesota was #1, Iowa #3, and Washington #6. In both cases, Iowa beats out the average of the other two. If the AP poll had rated Washington #4 going into the bowls, then Washington > Minnesota > Iowa would make more sense.
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what is this AI shit
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>>150701899
im actually an alum and they used to have one lol. i think there's even a hofer or two that played at ut
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>>150702146
What are you talking about? Staub is a better passer than Salter is, and knows the offense better. Julian Lewis just isn't ready.
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>>150704265
back in 1968, they didnt have grade inflation, or reduced standards for diversity
your grades were honestly come by
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>>150689460
this is Sewanee, school of the south, no?
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>>150703226
My bad, I think I was looking at last year's schedule.
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>>150705431

You don't know ball
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>>150699739
Gundy loves his alma mater too much.

Dude bleeds orange.
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>next we go to Anon, Anon you're live on the air go ahead
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>>150707113
ah yes, two over hyped teams battling for the middle of the SEC
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Cougs are TD dogs to North Texas
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>>150707115
SEC SUCKS PAW
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>>150707115
BAMA CAN SUCK A BAG OF BABY DICKS
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>>150706607
Slippery Rock
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my longhorns suck and we can't fire sark because he turned the program around despite his hiring coinciding with the NIL ruling and its possible that any retard could have been successful at texas over the last 5 years with virtually unlimited money and every advantage possible built into UT.
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>>150707557
>be woman
>don't watch football
>get to vote in AP poll
Just what I expect from USC alums and west coasr voters in general
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>>150707557
She's right about one thing. It doesn't actually matter.
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>>150705620
He's copy-pasting from tiptop25, the only true authority on cfb rankings, who decided on Iowa as number one in his fixed ap poll for 1960 with Washington as a close runner up.
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>>150707122
OU will soon be playing for the TOP of the SEC actually. Especially after the Texas game.
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>>150707122
The "Oklahoma is legit" headlines coming out after they beat Michigan was absurd.

>Defensive guru Brent Venables vs a True Freshman QB playing his first true road game at one of the hardest place to play
>vs a Head Coach that is clearly out of his depth with the full-time role

How was Michigan even ranked to start the season? A combination of name brand recognition and "They beat Bama in a meaningless bowl game last season"?
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>>150707557
While she is right about it not mattering because the playoff is decided by a combination of members of a small committee, TV networks, and ""metrics"", if she's going to just not give a shit, she shouldn't have a vote. How the hell does she even have one anyway? I get that sports journalism somehow has even more nepotism-like "it's about who you know and what school you went to" than actual giving fuck about what you're reporting on, but holy shit I didn't think it'd be this bad.
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The Ohio State football team held their second Fall Kickoff event: “An invitation to Jesus”

Caleb Downs, Sonny Styles, Luke Montgomery & many other Buckeyes spoke to hundreds of students & athletes about their faith in Jesus Christ.

75+ were baptized
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>>150707557
what the fuck are they doing?
this woman gets to influence the playoffs
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>>150707769
they are legit outside of the OL
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my reffies were in championship form last weekend



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