>Inside Bayern’s dressing room the players speak openly about the irrelevance of the Bundesliga, a league whose quality has collapsed, whose visibility abroad is almost non-existent, and where Bayern stand as the only club of stature while the rest operate on a level far below. Domestic victories no longer bring pride, they bring emptiness, because the competition itself has lost all meaning.>The reality is impossible to escape, as beyond Germany the Bundesliga draws no eyes, international viewership has faded into obscurity, and outside of Bayern there is a void of genuine world-class talent. The league is seen as a patchwork of small clubs with limited reach, serving only as a feeder system for the Premier League, where the best inevitably move on to build their careers. More than one Bayern player has even questioned whether the Bundesliga can still be considered part of Europe’s top five leagues.>The only relevance left is the Champions League, yet that is where the frustration cuts deepest. Bayern’s players know that on the European stage their reputations are measured, but they also know the board has failed to build a squad capable of competing with the elite. Bayern dominate a league no one watches or respects, while stepping into Europe underprepared and undermanned.>For those who came from the Premier League, the contrast is glaring. They left the world’s strongest league for one that feels, and de facto is, provincial and irrelevant, and they now see that even the one competition that still matters is treated by the board without the urgency it demands.>Inside the dressing room, and even among employees in the lower departments of the headquarters, the conclusion is often repeated. Bayern may gather trophies at home, but in truth they stand alone in a league of shadows, while Europe passes them by and the world no longer questions but quietly accepts that the Bundesliga has slipped out of football’s elite.
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Apologise for WW2, Nigel
>>150700279Imagine being this obsessed that you have to shit out such a pamphletAlso imagine being an animefaggot
>>150700353did he lie tho? I mean compare your bayernsliga to our shitfest of unpredictability
>>150700279They just had an exciting, very elite team that wasn't bayern whom only lost one game across all competitionsthen everyone important gets poached and its back to usual shitsucks ass
>>150700279fuck anime
>>150700353This nigga copied it from XitterYou can call him obsessed, but can you call him wrong?
>>150700353>>150700411https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/84755707/#84755745https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/74846577/#74846612
Who wrote this hit piece? Why doesnt the EPLEL win the CL every year if they mog everyone else so hard?
>>150700279>Domestic victories no longer bring pride, they bring emptiness, because the competition itself has lost all meaning.KWAB
>>150700455Because they actually have to fight in the league. PSG can rest their players from January onwards but PL teams can't do such a thing with like 8 teams capable of a top 4/5 finish
In soccer does it work like if you're a fan of a non elite club you LARP about hating other clubs but if you ever get a good player you immediately surrender them over to the real teams and rinse and repeat because thats just fucking hilarious and then if you're a big club fan do you just sit in the stadium pretending to be excited over beating the the same shitters over and over and over
>>150700516thats actually a very acurate description of the bundasliga. Good job burger
>>150700279i enjoyed michael owens comparison of kane going to germany to win trophies to going to scotland>who cares
>>150700416>>150700391>Bundesliga not even a top 5 league anymore>has faded into obscurity / no attention>no world-class talent outside BayernYeah, that is quite easy to prove wrongThe UEFA coefficient shows that the Bundesliga isn't in danger of losing 4th place, and that's about as low as we go. Normally, it's 3rd. There is zero chance Ligue 1 overtakes the Bundesliga, even less so that Eredivisie or whoever else does. And anyone with a brain knows itRegardless of international viewership, the Bundesliga is the only league except the Premier League to increase the TV money deal. Other leagues took massive hits, the Bundesliga grew. It's financially stable, no sign of waning interest all in all, even if the basis is smaller than the Premier LeagueRegarding the talent: Liverpool and Newcastle just bought expensive players for world-class-prices from Leverkusen, Leipzig, and Frankfurt. Soon enough, there will be more players like that. Dortmund will eventually have one or two great players as well again. Even if these players leave for the PL at some point, there will reliably be talent deemed world class in the league - and funnily enough, the only one really suffering from the PL capital rush is Bayern, but you aren't ready to acknowledge that
>>150700603Michael Owens is a grade A mong, so you enjoying his takes should be a warning signal
I don't like bullying the German league, because they actually support their clubs. They have a supporter culture whatever else you think about it. To me, the Spanish league is the disgusting one because everyone in the country shamelessly bandwagons 1 of 2 clubs and lets the rest of the league rot.
>>150700455we don't field second teams in the lower divisions like the gloryhunters in europe do. it gives a massive advantage to youth but it would be seen as disrespectful here.
germany has 80 million people and zero other sports (at least sports leagues) to compete with football yet they will point their finger at england as to why they're not a big league
>>150700516Since when is this about players? If Bayern had paid Stuttgart 70 million for Woltemade, it would have been fine. And then Newcastle paid 90 million. You can do a lot of stuff with that money. Stuttgart didn't need Woltemade to qualify for the CL some years ago, and they didn't only have him when they won the DFB Cup last season. And why wouldn't there be rivalries because of players changing clubs? You're not making sense. Fans support their clubs anyway, and a single player doesn't dictate how well a club is doing
>>150700687Our handball, ice hockey, and basketball leagues all have good attendance and firm support base in their respective communities. The latter two leagues are among the best in Europe, and the first one is the best in the world by far. You're not playing these sports, so you don't know shit about them. But you still have the nerve to pretend all of it doesn't exist, so point your finger elsewhere and carry on pretending cricket and rugby with the five countries each playing them make you multi-sports powerhouses
>>150700516yeah it's kinda like the nba and the lakers
>>150700775>handball5,000 per game>icehockey7000 average>basketball 4200 averagepoint proven
For an irrelevant league no one cares about, the Bundesliga sure gets a lot of threads. Especially from Englishmen, the salt of the earth, with their amazingly fully English league, who are first in line when it comes to not caring about Germany or the Bundesliga - and they will proudly declare that in like 20 threads per dayIs this part of their WW2 "living in the past" complex? Or a different kind of mental illness? One can only wonder ... but surely it's all just banter, heh
>>150700852Your rugby league has 15,000, not special either considering rugby is played in larger stadiums because of field dimensions. Eisbären Berlin and Kölner Haie regularly sell out their 20,000 seat stadiums, you can't build much larger for ice hockey750,000 people in Germany play organized handball. Do you have more organized rugby cricket players? If not, your point seems to be dead in the water. No one doubts football is the clear number one, but pretending we don't have other sports at all is dumb - you knew that if you had spent time in Germany
honestly don't know how any player of the Sky Six can brag about an english title anymore after their clubs wanted to ditch their league at the first opportunity
>>150700279Let's assume this is true: so what? Bayern bitching is good. If I said anything else, you'd "banter" us as well. The league isn't at risk of losing 4th place in the UEFA ranking, and it's one of only two top leagues - the other being the Premier League - to sign a bigger TV than the previous one contract in recent years. So it can't be that bad in terms of interestBayern struggle because they have to contend with more clubs for elite Bundesliga talent now. Their financial grip on the league is weakening. I don't doubt foreign interest in the Bundesliga is low, but domestic support is still frighteningly strong considering how imbalanced the league has become. It can basically only get better, and then, there might even be some more international viewersThanks for your passion and concern, though
>>150701014not all of us are redshite customers
Kane getting his first trophy by moving to Bayern and winning the bundesshitter at age 29 is like an incel losing his virginity to a prostitute
>>150700923there is rugby union and rugby league, two different sports, which both have higher attendances than anything in germany other than football. then there's the england rugby union team that sells out 80k every time they play. then there's cricket which is more of an international oriented sport still sells more for meme formats tha german leagues. even the british ice hockey league gets 3.5k average and that's as niche as it gets
the premier league is just a cartel where they prop up dogshit "legacy" clubs like liverpool and arsenal, itll 100% go the way of the super league in the next 2 or 3 years at most
EPL attracts much more attention internationally indeed but I admire how stable and down-to-earth Bundesliga is. They are alright.
why do british monkeys think anyone in germany gives a fuck about their irrelevant shithole?the only reason their league isnt the joke of europe is because they sold it all off to sheiks and americansmeanwhile they wait for 60 years for a titlelick my german ass
>>150701179user added context:the english league could have stopped entering the european cup in 1984 and would still have as many wins as the bundesliga does in 2025
brighton would win the buli by december
>>150701211they had about a century of being a professional league at that point20 years alter the italian league and spanish were much betterand thats why they desperately sold it all off to foreign scumthere is nothign english about the league anymore
>>150701255If only ...
>>150700353>faggotThis is /sp/, you are all faggots here
>>150701154Thank youI'd love there to be a bit more international attention, but only a bit. No need for mass bandwagoning. We could get a bit more with some more balance up front ... perhaps that will be in reach in a few years, Bayern aren't looking that great anymore structurallyFor now, the most important part is filling the top tiers with heavyweights again. Hamburg and Köln being in the Bundesliga again is good news, they have the potential to play a role internationally as well, but they need to not be retarded for a few yearsThere is movement further down as well. Fortunately, Aachen, Duisburg, Essen, and Münster have at least made it to the 3rd tier again. If only we could get rid of the 50+1 exceptions ...
>>150701332Yeah, but I'm a /sp/artan and not an /a/sperger cunt. We have three stars to their one* to cement that
>>150700279i don't get the histrionics, bayern and dortmund are still massive, it's still one of the top 3 leagues in the worldi do think bayer missed a huge opportunity though
>>150701380OP is a shill monkeythey hate the Bundesliga, because they cant buy the teamsits owned by fans
>>150701380There's a point in saying Bayern and Dortmund are getting left behind. Dortmund in particular got lucky to get swept into paradise 15 years ago, they haven't done much to warrant that ever since. Meanwhile, quite a few traditional heavyweights basically sabotaged themselves. Hamburg in particular. It's true that the league isn't in a great shape, but as you've said, it stands on solid ground at least and doesn't have that much to fearRegarding Leverkusen: at the end of the day, Bayer (the owner) isn't that interested in being a super heavyweight. They don't have the domestic fan support for that either. They are fully fine with selling out after a good run and doing it all over again - as long as they make international competition, an endeavor which they gladly support with a few dozen millions. In the end, going all out is too big of an investment in their eyes, they have come to the conclusion that the current shape of the club as a steady billboard with regular CL appearances, occasional title challenges, and regular good sells is all they needThey might have fucked up even that now, though. We will see. Leverkusen winning was a relief to many people since Bayern's run got interrupted. But the following fallout made many fans hate Leverkusen and their brothers in spirit (Wolfsburg, Leipzig, Hoffenheim) even more
>its owned by fansapart from the teams who are owned by companies like bayer, leipzig, wolfsburgand clubs that are technically owned by fans like bayern but companies like audi and allianz are "shareholders"
>>150701479yeah, and handful of teams are owned by german companiesbig dealmost arentwe will never see somehtintg this pathetic in germanyyour league is a joke owned by sheiksand it eats you up
>immediately goes back on his point with a "big deal"so easy
>>15070147925% of Bayern is in shareholder's hands. That leaves 75% for fans. It works fine for the most part, very fine for a global heavyweight even. Bayern's membership conferences aren't just for show, Uli Hoeneß isn't good enough of an actor to completely chimp out over members' takes and votes for show
>>150700279slut
>>150700279>>150700444I want to have sex with Kaguya and Akari
>>150701527keep sucking sheik dickits literaly the only thing youre good for60 years of hurtyou pathetic joke
>>150701543Not looking mad at all, palRelax a bit, please
>>150701554nta, he's been doing that on purpose for literal months. don't reply to him.
>>150701554Im making fun of the joke that is England
>>150701564So it's a falseflag? I always thought he was just insanely mad
>>150701577yeha, Im sure a falsefalg would point out what a joke the english sheik league ismake it make sense
>>150701577I think bot, but who knows.
>>150701587Naja, ein Deutscher würde vielleicht nicht ganz so ausrasten. Das ist schon ziemlich auffällig, denn es gibt keinen Grund, so besessen zu sein. Damit schadest du dem Anliegen eher, wenn man ganz ehrlich ist
>the english have switched to their german VPN to distract what a joke they areutterly patheticimagien being english
>>150701269>they had about a century of being a professional league at that pointyou would too if you hadn't chimped out and ruined Europe twice.
>>150701608oh no the germans are angry!
i pray everyday to brazilian league don't became something like Bundesliga. By far the most souless league in the whole world.
>>150700344yes, for losing
>>150700279>bundes isn't top 5 league EPL has the marketing, TV contracts and dough. Ok.Lol Liga is a 2.5 team league although some of the teams are competitive despite minimal funds. They are clearly #2.Bundes, Serie A & Ligue UHH are probably in that order, but interchangeable as 3a, 3b, 3c.Other leagues like eredivisie, russian, portuguese, belgium, greece, turkey, etc. aren't close to cracking the top 5 of European leagues.
