Is the the athlete of all time?
Do you guys consider him “Swedish” all the time, or only when he competes?
I'd say he's even the the the athlete of all time
>>150814405idk but he's definitely among them
>>150814405For me, he is the athlete of all time time.
>>150814457He’s one of them, no doubt. But is he the?
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>>150814405lmao, it's a circus act basically.
Is making a mockery of your own sport a sport?
>>150814419>half swedish>DO YOU CONSIDER HIM SWEDISH?>meanwhile entire america is filled with spics and blackssomeone call mohammad
>>150814405Kinda pathetic to act like you're God in a sport that only a few hundred people do.
>>150814419I don't, he can't even speak the language.
>>150814576What about the mulatos who are also half swedish and half "african", do you consider them too
>>150814419Only competes. Nobody would consider him swedish on the street if he wasnt famous
>>150814405imo bubka was better, with current time materials and diet, he would surpass duplantapart from that, he should at least win some high jump events to be eligible (or some other discipline, but this one seems the closest to pole, which is too niche)
>>150814405He is definitel an athlete in this time, yes, sure.
>>150814619What do the number of competitors have to do with it if you're that far ahead of everyone else? Or are you implying that Duplantis wouldn't be as dominant if there were thousands more people competing, like he can't be considered God of his sport because HYPOTHETICALLY someone could have been better than him in another reality? Or are you just dumb?
>>150814405Has anyone ever been more dominant in a sport than him?
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argenchinos be like Salto con vergaKKKKKKKKKKKK
>>150816976Jesse Owens
>>150814405Literally who?
>>150814836>imonobody cares about your opinion
>>150816976Literally Sergei Bubka in the same sport, 40 years ago.
>>150816976Phelps
>>150814405The greatest athlethe of all time is Roger Federer. Followed by muhammed ali
>>150814405anyone else starting to get annoyed by this faggot?>heh heh, today i will set a new world record by 1mm and beat my old world record from like two or three days ago>and tomorrow i'm gonna beat it by another 1mm, you just watch hehyeah we get it you faggot, now fuck off
>>150817521It's how they do things in pole vault. The world records are ridiculous because they do precisely that.Bubka broke the world record for men's pole vault 35 times during his career.[5] He broke the outdoor world record 17 times and the indoor world record 18 times. Bubka lost his outdoor world record only once in his career. After Thierry Vigneron, of France, broke his record on August 31, 1984 at the Golden Gala international track meet in Rome, Bubka subsequently reclaimed the record on his next attempt on the same runway minutes later.[22]
>>150817242Dude, you are embarrassing yourself
>>150817547you see, the way you described it at least there was relevance and some sort of competition. but this american fag larping as a swede is just glory hunting but kinda forgot that noone really cares anymore.
>>150814576>ex-ethnostate vs colonial stateapples n' pears
>>150817521I would do the same thing for the fat stacks of sponsorbucks for each record break
>>150814405certainly one of them
>>150817600collecting the bonsues m7.
>>150817312what kind of response did you expect, then?anyway bubka fucked the olympics 1992, too bad, he surely was quite good in his timeif you look at domination within certain sport, duplant has a lot of chance for great achievements (laureus awards etc.), but he's clearly not there yet
>>150817312I care anon
>>150817521Its the only way to make money
No athlete in any sport is at hia level right now. At least not in male sports.
>>150815080No, being dominant in a meme sport with shallow competition is not impressive, the only pole vaulter anyone's ever heard of other than Duplantis is that French lad who's cock knocked the bar over.Even when I was doing school athletics it was always well behind any track event and about half the other field events in importance and was left for people who weren't good enough to get picked for the real events.
he jumps 6 feet 30 when anyone else struggles at nearly 6 feet but over 5. so he is like 5-10% better than the rest of the best. Let us compare him to Bolt. Bolt drove at 9.50 when all else was at 9.80. 9.8/9.5 is like close 1.001-2 and that means Bolt was a couple of percents better than the best of the rest. Now let us take the numbers from Dupe 5-10 and divide it with Bolts. 5-10/1.001-2 and you get around 5.10 feets per seconds. Or in conlusion Dupe is about 5 or 10% than Bolt, which means he would be running at 9.40 if he chose to sprint, which is the euqvalent of 6 feet 30.
>>150833058i jump three butts and nine titties
>>150816976Bradman
>>150833058It's not six feet; it's six metres. I could probably pole-vault six feet (=1m80).
Americans simply love 'muh heritage' larping
>>150814405did you mean to type is he the cutest athlete of all time?
>>150833058Is this AI?
>>150814656I swear I heard him giving an interview in Swedish. Maybe I'm confusing him with the discus giant
>>150814656he spoke ok swedish in an interview yesterdayhuge improvement over olympics imo
>>150816976Riner is comparable gotta see on a whole career
>>150835576Teddy Riner choked in 2008 Olympic and in the 2020 Olympic, he's not comparable to Duplantis
>>150835657Riner has gone 10 years / 154 fights undefeated, Duplantis still hasn't reached this kind of durability (although he probably will). Duplantis also hasn't won all of the contests he took part of, you know.
>>150816976Hard to beat this guyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksandr_Karelin>After going 13 years undefeated in international competition and six years without giving up a point, he eventually lost 0–1 to Rulon Gardner of the United States in the final of the Sydney Olympics. Karelin had previously beaten Gardner in 1997 with a score of 5–0 and throwing him three times. His loss to Gardner is considered one of the biggest upsets in sports history. His loss in the final of the Sydney Olympics was his first and only international loss, having previously been unbeaten throughout his international career. Karelin retired from competitions in 2000.>Thus his only two losses at the senior level were in finals, those ultimately being the 1987 USSR Championships to Rostorotsky, and 2000 Summer Olympics to Gardner. However, both of his losses are considered controversial, with him also only losing to both opponents by a single point. Some argue, such as Finnish former wrestler Tuomo Karila, that Gardner should not have been awarded the point, and that Karelin should have won. Karelin lost a few matches at the junior level, but his senior level record was an astounding 887–2.
>>150816976either Mijain Lopez or >>150817035
>>150836411>However, both of his losses are considered controversial, with him also only losing to both opponents by a single point. Some argue, such as Finnish former wrestler Tuomo Karila, that Gardner should not have been awarded the point, and that Karelin should have won.HOLY COPE
>>150814405Hard to imagine anyone beating his records. This dude was born to be a pole vaulter, hit the genetic lottery and received hyper-focused elite training as soon as he could walkJumping 6m is a massive feat, even the best pole vaulters ever couldn't reliably jump it - until Duplantis appeared. He's so far above the rest. He's completely undisputed for the next 10 years unless something crazy happens. And even when he'll be in his mid-30s, it will take a genuine prodigy to defeat himThe question is: how high can he jump? 6.35 seems to be doable, he still has time. Anything above that seems ludicrous as of now, but who knows?
>>150837260I wonder what his best jump will be at the end of his career - both official and unofficial
>>150815080>Duplantis wouldn't be as dominant if there were thousands more people competing, like he can't be considered God of his sport because HYPOTHETICALLY someone could have been better than him in another reality? Yes. It's the same reason why India being good at cricket or New Zealand being good at rugby isn't impressive because most countries don't care about those sports. If suddenly every country did you bet India and New Zealand would sink into irrelevance in a span of 20 years. If 1 million kids a year wanted to become successful pole vault athletes, Duplantis' reputation would fall to that of a pioneer but by no means a legend as several athletes would surpass his records. Do you know any good football players before Pele?
>>150814405He is athlete but not the
>>150817242The guy from Dune
>>150839166>Do you know any good football players before Pele?JUST Fontaine, Ferenc Puskás... Are you an American on vacation or another real madrid tourist?
If his planned new approach with the longer staff and the longer run-up works, we might even catch a glimpse of 6.50 on the horizon. 6.50 is about as high as any reasonable being is allowed to talk about when it come to pole vaulting, and it would have been way too crazy before Duplantis appeared
>>150839166>Do you know any good football players before Pele?I get the rest of your point, but this is a bit strange. I could name you 100 „good“ players, probably more. Though I know many fans couldn’t Track and field is a pretty global sport, although nowhere near as popular as football of course. Surely a surge in popularity would lead to a rise in performance because of more people trying it leading to more efficiently used talent pools, and because of more money allowing athletes better training and more focus on their sport. But athletics are more visibly about the limits of human performance, and it is very hard to imagine several people surpassing Duplantis‘ record. Or Bolt‘s. To beat Duplantis at his best, you have to be faster than him (which is very difficult for any non-specialized sprinter) without being noticeably heavier, and you need to be comparable in terms of technique, which is very hard given that Duplantis has received elite training from his former elite athlete dad since he was a toddler. He’s the near-perfect blend of talent and training. It’s possible to surpass him, especially if gear continues to develop bit by bit, but you cannot compare it to football, a very different game. Surely the growth of the sport would lead to more competitive fields, i.e. Duplantis not winning every event by miles. But the idea that he’s theoretically easy to surpass because the sport isn’t developed is a bit naive in my opinion. Partially because he’s really head and shoulders above the rest, partially because the sport is already relatively developed, partially because of the concept of the sport itself And of course Pelé is a legend. As is Paavo Nurmi, for example. But arguing about legends/pioneers is just semantics
>>150842642Those are scary heights. How often do pole vaulters fall on the wrong side of the bar?
>>150843069The pros? Almost never. And fortunately, the mat is somewhat constructed for that rare occasion as well. The sides extrude so you can fall backward as well, but there has to be a gap in the middle for the jump to work. The structure in the middle also helps directing the energy of the pole forward. It is possible to fuck up the jump and exert force in the wrong direction, thereby getting thrown back - but it is very rare, and not hitting the cushion is even rarer. If it happens, it’s obviously very seriousAmateurs have a higher error rate, but the heights are lower as well. It still is a rare occasion because pole vaulting requires a lot of training and preparation before you jump seriously for the first time. The entire movement is pretty complex after allI don’t have any statistics for you, but it is surprisingly safe for an event where people try to jump as high as possible with flexible sticks
>>150833058i can run 100m in 20 seconds. does it mean that bolt is only 2x better than me? can i earn half of his money if i start competing in running?
So is it a case that you simply have to increase the length of the pole and they will jump even higher? Afterall, there is a physical limit to how high someone could spring off the pole at the height and only by increasing the height they spring off from can the height be increased. But arn't all non running events in athletics pretty lame anyway, they literally can only do one thing unlike say the decathlon of which I would say is far more impressive.
>>150817521I mean, I suppose it is a bit boring. It would be cool to see him just do one huge jump and show how high he can actually go at once. But he gets paid a 100k everytime he breaks the WR. So I get it, I would do the same.
>>150843069It happened to Austrian pole vaulter Kira Grünberg in training and she's crippled now>On 30 July 2015, Grünberg seriously injured her spine, during a training session in her native Innsbruck. During a routine jump, she landed on her head and neck in the box in front of the mat, fracturing her fifth cervical vertebrae. The injury left her a tetraplegic.
>>150844157>But arn't all non running events in athletics pretty lame anywayHard disagree, throws and jumps are kino. Also the most boring events are always long races for me (anything longer than 800m)>>150845027FWhen I was a kid my father also told me that they had to put caps on the ends of the poles, because some athletes had it literally pierce through their tighs
>>150844157>So is it a case that you simply have to increase the length of the pole and they will jump even higher?Most poles have a certain length. 5.20m is the standard for the pros. The problem is carrying the longer ones since they are heavier after all and slow you down, and you need to be fast to exert force on it. You want hard poles that still bend nicely to really give you a push. Duplantis will now experiment with slightly longer poles and a longer run-up. He can allow himself that since he is a very good sprinter and has great techniqueAmateurs will jump with shorter poles that have a different resistance. There's no real standardAnd non-running events can be pretty damn exciting, but it's a matter of taste of course. The best in their fields, one attempt at a time, lots of physical prowess and technique. It can be very suspenseful
>>150814419I have met him. He was very nice and I do consider him to be Swedish because he's half-Swedish and half-French.
