premier league football has been a middle/upper class excursion for as long as ive been alive. cl matches? forget about it

>>150832620
>swede flag seething about Arsenal again
Give it a rest

>>150832661
I was just reading this after the Heysel thread
https://www.the42.ie/tony-evans-on-heysel-ban-liverpool-3899431-Mar2018/
I thought Thatcher was cool, didn't realize she basically put the nail in the coffin on the white working class, with a vengeance too
She's on my shit list.
A few more notable things from the article, and I was just going back and forth with Bulgariabro and egyptbro about this, is that during the game the teams wanted to kill each other but were friendly afterwards. Egypt was saying that because guys today smile and joke after that the spirit of competition is dead and mou's bunker mentality can't work but this article proves that it was always the same after the game and no one would argue that us versus them wasn't in effect in the 80s
When you are on the field, and you're playing a sport, and the other team has a different color jersey it doesn't matter how much you're paid or how many Instagrams you have, you want to win.
>>150832620
I mean the banner itself isn't the problem I've seen plenty of similarly plain banners, what makes it worse is how the rest of the stadium is completely empty of anything that complements it

>>150832809
I'm working class now too. I wasn't supposed to be it's not my natural or intended level, but life can be cruel. So I feel a certain affinity for my brothers at that level of society

>>150832661
Basically the last 30 or so years globally sports have become this new entertainment enterprise.
These organizations used to be passed around men for tens of thousands of dollars are now worth billions. Players who used to drink whiskey at halftime now have a team of doctors checking all their vitals and giving them just the right balance of electrolytes and water to maximize your performance in the next half.
It's all dead in the stadium because what sport was is dead. It's more about bringing a middle class family of 4 to a good Saturday entertainment that the wife can post about on Instagram and the husband can snatch a bit of masculinity.
If you want to find a group of drunk semi-violent people to rally around a club, find a good hole in the wall drinking establishment that always plays the same teams, you'll find the supporters there that just want to get drunk and watch the match. I assume Stockholm or wherever isn't too different from most places with irrelevant leagues in that a booze hall with a big TV that plays matches has flags out showing what clubs their drinkers typically support.

>>150832620
I don't know when Arsenal crowds were ever meant to be notable.
The new all-seaters are generally poor for atmosphere unless there's a kop.
Hooligans are increasingly priced out.

>>150832874
I'll try to include less of these personal notes as time goes on, I think at the moment they're important to establish where my voice is coming from as I integrate into the /sp/ community
It's both for your benefit and mine, for me it's somewhat cathartic and for the people it gives you the proper context from which to interpret my analysis and observations from

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From all the English clubs >we (Dortmund) played last few years, only Newcastle had good fan culture. Rest Really were soulless.

This is what happen when the people making all the decisions are the same ones that call football a product.

>>150832620
Keep seething

>>150832809
>https://www.the42.ie/tony-evans-on-heysel-ban-liverpool-3899431-Mar2018/
>One of the things that Peter Reid and Neville Southall got right [in the book] is they said that ‘the Heysel ban wasn’t really about football, it was an attack on working-class culture’.
LMFAO
No it was about Liverpool fans being murderers. UEFA banned English clubs before the FA took on Thatcher's request to withdraw English clubs so she has nothing to do with Heysel. This is just more sad deflection.

>>150832620
arsenal are probably some of the worst supporters in the country. they've had fuck all culture even when they were at highbury. their whole thing now just seems to be copying other teams, like they made that shitty song to play like youll never walk alone and demands everyone respects it.

>>150832620
I think they just finally realized that soccer is incredibly gay and boring.

>>150832620
they adopted the American sports model
more family oriented
>sit down, applaud, consume
good football, nice stadiums, most boring atmosphere of any sporting event known to man

>>150833020
I don't know what goes on up there obviously but the article mentions how Liverpool fans and people from Liverpool were dehumanized and hated and I think what you just said calling them murderers makes it seem like a little bit of that sentiment is still there and will never go away.

>>150833077
They started a giant fight that ended up with 39 people dead. What else do youi call them but murderers? They didn't have to crush people to death. They didn't have to be drunk fucking hooligans. They chose to, and then hide behind "muh working class" to justify being straight up psychos.
There is no virtue or vice in class, only actions. And they proved themselves in that way to be scum of the earth who deserve all bad things that happen to them.

>>150833077
It's very much still there, plus you're on /sp/ where people love to meme about it. Teams like Chelsea and Millwall were far more notorious for their hooligan culture at the time, but they were shit so they never made a stadium collapse onto the opposing fans or got crushed to death by incompetent police. Only Liverpool did those, just like only Leeds had a fan get stabbed in Turkey before a Champions League match.

>>150832809
I shan't defend scousers but yes, football fans to her were like an insurgent cult that needed stamping out

>>150832809
>I thought Thatcher was cool
LMAO

>>150832620
Blokes go to fight each other and it’s just random Somalians/Nigerians they have to lose fights to lest the home office pulls their card. Their options are go to jail forever for a racism, or become an Arsenal fan.

>>150833167
>>150833210
Gotta respond to this in morning if thread still up
>>150835367
Had no idea she was such a disgusting cunt
https://www.socialistalternative.org/2021/03/29/the-bitter-legacy-of-margaret-thatcher/

I'm not a socialist or anything I just find these, this one and the one above, doing searches. For this I searched "Thatcher Anti working class", for the article above I searched for something like "Haysel mi-6 conspiracy"

>>150835648
This website is pretty shit
>This “get rich” mentality was positively encouraged by Thatcher, even though it was clearly at the expense of the poorest sections of society. A new brutal and heartless ideology was pursued by Thatcher which led to her declaring “there is no such thing as society.”

And then they hit you with this bullshit basically saying COVID is real
>when humanity has faced up the Covid pandemic which has required working class society coming back together in heart-warming displays of solidarity and mutual cooperation.

Literal faggots, makes me sick to my stomach

You gotta be careful bros be vigilant about what you read

>>150835678
The ordinary man has no friends in this world, be vigilant. Every day is a war

is this croat nigga ai

>>150835774
No why
I'm not a good representative of Croatia either, I'm completely foreign here they don't think like I do but I still recognize my duty to die for this nation if I need to

>>150835796
I speak the language but you know how it is
You still get looked at like a complete alien because it's obvious you didn't grow up here

>>150833167
>>150833210
I gotta respond to these tomorrow because this is very serious what they're saying and I have strong ideas about this and it has to do with victim blaming

>>150832620
Spending a weeks worth of pay to go watch a team of blacks who would gladly rape your sisters and daughters seems like a bad way to spend your time

>>150835774
It's like someone coming back From the states to Italy lmfao
They'd loon like an idiot
That's what I am here. The rest of this life will be trash

Tifos are soulless continental slop; it's embarrassing that Arsenal have one at all, regardless of how shit it is.

>>150835774
Oh wait that's Ireland my dark mode is on with blue light filter my bad

>>150835977
I think in a country like Ireland someone coming back from the states wouldn't be a complete idiot maybe
Maybe the would I don't know
The point is you can't just come to live on this continent if you didn't grow up here
My life will be extremely painful until the end

>>150832620
>defend
nobody defends this shitass tifo from Arseanal lamo what the fuck are you talking about?

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>>150832620
Some clubs like Liverpool, Spurs and a few others still have active and decently loud crowds. It's just that clubs like Arsenal and City are just disgraceful, but they are not the standard. Just compare that Arsenal tifo to the Spurs one tonight, it's night and day difference.

>>150835866
This. If we had a pyramid system to our sports, filling it full of random foreign blacks would spoil the whole thing. At least we bred ours and then systemically held oppressed them. There was some team /sp/ loved a couple years ago because the starting 11 was all English lads. As soon as that team made it to the premiership, all of the lads were gone and it’s just a bunch of random Africans. Surely the gap between a championship side and the premier league isn’t so wide that you dump the entire team that got you there.

>>150836986
That's not even true anymore.
Except for Newscastle maybe (and that won't last), every single time there is a French or German team playing in England the away fans are louder than the local ones. Liverpool, United, City, Tottenham, Arsenal, Chelsea... No matter the team it always happen.

Last year the PSG fans completely mogged the Liverpool ones it was utterly embarrassing. They're loud for YNWA and that's it.

>>150832928
again with this "the architecture makes the atmosphere" argument

>>150837155
Not the entire suqad perhaps, but a lot of players will have to leave. Half is a fair estimate, though it depends from team to team of course. And how much money you have.
The Premier League is especially notorious for posing a big step upwards compared to the league below because they distribute their TV money so evenly
>>150836986
To be fair, wasn't Arsenal's choreo a really botched accident born out of necessity? I thought I read that they had something much bigger planned, but somehow had to improvise. I refuse to believe that this is as good as Arsenal can do

>>150832620
>Because who in their right mind would defend this kind of "tifo" bullshit?
Arsenal are notoriously soulless

>>150837244
>French or German team playing in England the away fans are louder than the local ones
Almost every fan in Germany holds English fan culture in very high regards and will defend them by saying that the loud and passionate English fans are simply priced out too often
But I remember the reputation taking a hit last year or so when West Ham played Leverkusen, who are considered plastic here after all, and Leverkusen fans absolutely mogged West Ham fans. The latter didn't even understand stand culture and started a gay little chant when Leverkusen fans stood up and jumped around in the away section. Looking dumb and soulless next to Leverkusen fans is a terrible sign, even though there are worlds between Leverkusen and Wolfsburg/Hoffenheim

>>150832809
>tf
>tp
once a nazi, always a nazi

>>150835866
> blacks who would gladly rape your sisters and daughters
Projection much?

>>150832620
As an American when I saw games in Stamford Bridge and emirates the atmosphere was horrible and the only noise you heard was the traveling away supporters singing all game. West Ham in Upton park was amazing atmosphere, east enders were bantering away, cracking jokes and singing all game long, but west ham atmosphere probably sucks now in their new stadium. In contrast, Charlton Athletic and Dagenham and Reds and Millwall had amazing atmosphere. It's true what bongs say, the real fans are in the lower leagues.

>>150836986
>Liverpool
LAWL. They're more plastic than Manchester United and Chelsea fans these days. They sing for you'll never walk alone then they sit on their hands in silence the rest of the game. Newcastle and Sunderland are the only big teams with fans that are actually loud at home.

>>150837533
There's something about Arsenal that simply attracts minorities, and I don't just think it's because of ethnic role models, all teams have black players. Arsenal down the years have been more iconic than most though with the likes of Ian Wright and Thierry Henry but I think it's more to do with the culture of Arsenal.

Most of the other London clubs are more tribal, Arsenal have always been generic and have always in my time watching football had the most lifeless, passionless fans in English football, even in the height of football passion in the late 80's they were winning the odd title and it still got the name the Highbury library. This made Arsenal an attractive proposition for Indian, black and muslim supporters because of the nature of the club, the placid way of the support, and the upper class profile of the fanbase comparatively speaking, I mean for fuck sake could you imagine someone with a turban sitting in the Chicken Run at West Ham in the late 80's?

It's the nature of the club that is the reason for this, and now 90% of ethnics support Arsenal which is why I would suggest that they have double the fanbase of anyone else in London.

>>150837533
Older English stadiums really have a nice acoustic in my opinion. The fans are close to the pitch and that helps, especially for the TV impression since the microphones are really close to the fans
Generally, there are few things as annoying as this "the myth of Anfield" wank where people pretend Anfield is louder and crazier than anything else. It has become a massive marketing gimmick, but as you've said, the reality just doesn't hold up to it. Tourists and bandwagoners obviously ruin everything everywhere (Bayern's Allianz-Arena is infamously quiet, HSV fans dominated the atmosphere despite their team getting mauled), but there are other reasons as well - and yet, casuals will probably think of Anfield first when they're asked to name a loud stadium. It's probably decent, but man ...

>>150832620
>Is English supporter culture dead?
it's not just supporter culture, it's everything

read the book "Real England" by Paul Kingsnorth

>>150835678
nowadays, journalists are either prostitutes or jobless

>>150837416
I've worked in football, English football is nothing like the continent.

European football fans are extremely passionate, English fans will have a polite sit down, with the occasional lunatic screaming at the players to pass quicker

>>150837725
Englands not a country, its an economic zone crossed with an open air prison

>>150833167
Having a meltie uh, shut up little bitch

>>150838088
grim

>>150837539
This is very true, the lack of passion the fans have for the club, combined with the lack of identity the club has, makes it impossible to differentiate a historical fan with a bandwagoner. Anyone can come in freely and instantly feel like they're part of their fanbase, whereas in other clubs with stronger identities, fans have a very bad opinion of faggot bandwagoners who don't know shit about the club's history and the local fans, who just join in when the club has good results
man shitty is going to meet the same fate eventually

>>150838291
imagine feeling so much pride about the fact that you support a bunch of millionaires kicking a ball around a field

>>150838530
players come and go, you are meant to support the club not them

>>150838597
what’s so great about supporting a corporation?

>>150832620
Only Crystal Palace supporters are (kinda) loud in England. And they are still pretty bad compared to any European club

>>150837244
And any western euro team is mogged by any balkan team so western euro teams have no fan culture. Then probably argie teams have more tifo and better pyro than balkan teams so actually balkan teams have no fan culture. Grand logic bros

>>150832620
Tifos weren't ever part of English fan culture

>>150839206
>>150838291
Interesting.

To both anons, their perspective is correct. To the French anon football is something performed as a community, you eat food communally, you have people around you you enjoy interacting with. Life has meaning and value on a Tuesday evening.

To the British anon, life is about work, TV, sleep, repeat. You eat alone, you hate the people around you, Tuesday is get food alone, eat it in front of the TV. Once a week you get drunk to cope with the drudgery of life.

So it makes sense your outlooks on life, and what makes life worth living, would be so different

>>150837533
>Newcastle and Sunderland are the only big teams with fans that are actually loud at home
the home atmosphere has been getting worse sadly
it's too gentrified. and young people can't afford to go so all the STs are held by old cunts at the stage in life where they sit on their hands for 90 minutes and do fuck all for the energy

>>150841300
Lol the UK pension has effectively been abolished

People haven't realised yet, but if you're 20 years old, you will work until the day you die.

'Ultras' and 'tifos' are incredibly sad

niggas out here watching the game on an illegal stream in their mom's house while lukring game threads hoping for a chilean webm and bitching about the stadium atmosphere in anther country

>>150841650
Projection

>>150841568
uk ultras are people seeking a community in a football brand. their identities as english or scots or being from govan or north london has been destroyed by globalism that they need to buy into a brand like everyone else and so they chose a football brand.

>>150832915
nö, not in germany.

>>150841936
that applies to most places, the idea of 'ultras' and tifos is sad everywhere.
genuinely laughable that people wank off over a cartoon that their sportsball club have made

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>>150842187
>sportsball

All this glazing of continental fans. Spanish and Italian games regularly sound dead to me. I don't watch enough German games to know if they're actually any better than English fans, who I think JF hates on unreasonably.

>>150841568
>>150842187
Ultras are necessary. They're the ones conducting the chanting and organising anything the crowd might pull up on matchday. But tifos illustrate perfectly what's wrong with ultras and stadium culture in 2025. You sacrifice a great game atmosphere for a bland graphic that will appear just for enough time to get screencapped by Instagram page admins and Twitter users. There is a big difference between:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgilyQjlt_Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBt6reN40Zk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V6OEFOwprM

and this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAM2ldLT_cE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNOMUd4SXtk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMbOQvEzjY4

But even in Eastern Europe and South America you'll see that football walks more and more to become the sanitised slop they made of English football many years ago. The future seems to be customer-friendly stadiums full of old people and tourists.

Real "tifos" are unparalleled cringe btw. This arse one is good because it makes you lot seethe

>>150835678
Maggie Thatcher did nothing wrong.

>>150842575
She's the reason you are short and ugly

>>150842645
I'm 6'3" and you're a faggot.

>>150842317
germans and brits mog the rest of the world in attendance rates across all divisions and that's the only thing that matters

>>150842930
Lie, average male height in your dysgenic shithole is 5'7

There's a 50% chance you are a manlet. It's over, get in the pit

>>150842977
exactly

>>150832620
I have a season ticket at Arsenal. My ticket to this game cost ~£100 face value. I could've resold for several times that. When the tickets cost that much, the atmosphere suffers. You need cheap tickets for the kind of fan who makes a lot of noise to attend. Arsenal never had the best atmosphere in the league by any means but the quality of atmosphere at Highbury was light years ahead of the Emirates. The way prices have changed in the last 20-30 years is insane.

>>150844609
if you charge a catholic 100 quid for his bread and wine, he's not going to say no. this is the nub of the issue.

capitalism took our religion

>>150835774
He's real; you can piece together his entire life story if you read enough of his posts. And he seems to be in every thread these days; he's probably about 30% of all the posts on /sp/ during quiet times.

>>150837459
Go back

>>150844609
£100 is extortion. Its a 10 hours of waging.

Unacceptable. Burn the entire system to the ground

>>150835774
Nope, genuine schizo

>>150832620
Any organized support got broken up after all the hool chimpouts of brits across europe, no standing section, ticket prices start at £80 ...
This is a event just like pretty much all the US sports, it's just lacking DEEEEE - FENCE shouting.

>>150842317
Spanish fan culture has been killed (or at least heavily supressed in most places). most of the ultras groups are either banned or don't even go to the stadium (or became criminals like Boixos Nois).

>>150832620
selling clubs to arabs kings, russojew gangsters, and burgerjews (they turned manchester utd into a middle table team) that don't give a shit about football ruined premier league.
Is not the same thing to chant for the club you actually own. Rooting for today's most premiere league teams Is like rooting for Ikea or Volvo lol, or some richfagg private toy. (if you do that please kill yourself.).

>>150832620
Plenty of rich and middle and upper middle class people go to games in the united States and create great atmospheres
Look at any college game or the OKC thunder with their blue shirts
Europe is just nerfed

>>150837431
what's nazi about his post?

>>150832620
>Is English supporter culture dead?
Yeah. You get arrested if you yell anything too nasty at the players, and tickets are like £120 to sit in the nosebleeds. The atmosphere is always going to suffer if you only allow the mild-mannered middle class 40 year olds into the stadium.

>>150845026
I don't think I will

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>>150832968
>only Newcastle had good fan culture
thank you, fren

>>150833070
Pricing and access to tickets. Some of my fondest memories are my dad taking me to games back when dinosaurs roamed the earth for - well it wouldn't have been CHEAP but affordable for a working man. But the prices have gone up beyond all reason, and the hoops you have to jump through become more and more numerous and annoying, that the only way I could share that with MY son was because I worked for a travel company and staff got discounts on unsold tickets to various events, including football matches. So kids don't go and learn the culture and have their enthusiasm kept in line by the old farts, and said old farts (like me) don't get the vampiric boost of teen and early 20s energy lifting you up and bouncing. So you get the 'hush'. That's a bit pretentious, perhaps, but how I see it.

>>150850400
British people don't want affordable lives.

They're happy things are so expensive, it gives those who can just about afford it a chance to sneer at those who are struggling.

Reform said they'll abolish all welfare and bring back the workhouse. So you better hope you or your son never have a medical accident or you'll spend a lifetime in total misery

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>>150850400
How old are you, was this during the 80s? 90s? 2000s?
>>150857554
>British people don't want affordable lives.
I find this hard to believe.

>>150857666
In the 70s the UK was so bad they needed an imf loan people didn't have enough food to eat

>>150857666
>>British people don't want affordable lives.
>I find this hard to believe.

Hard to believe, but it's true. It's called the Politics of Spite. Every political party here can only promise to harm the other, harm lgbt, harm immigrants, harm welfare recipients.

But 0 address income inequality, spiralling food prices, extremely high energy bills. And very few brits care. They become gleeful at the thought of disabled people losing their monetary support. They don't want less crime, they want more prisons, with harsher conditions.

You have no idea how deeply this country hates their neighbour

>>150857677
5 million children live at risk of severe malnutrition, according to the UN

120,000 children are living in absolute poverty, according to UNICEF

We have bread lines here, where families queue up for food, without which they would starve. Many of those queuing are in work.

Tesco is the largest supermarket in the UK, it recorded profits of 4 BILLION, when just 3 years ago it had profits of 800 million. Its workforce has to claim welfare to top up their wages. There is 0 outrage about this, because when the rich inflict misery, thats just business, they're richer so they're smarter and worked harder than everyone else.

>>150857666
>>British people don't want affordable lives.
>I find this hard to believe.
Of course I want my life to be good, but the way I define a good life is if it's better than other people's. If I was rich but everyone else was richer than me, I would be unhappy. If I was a bit poor but everyone around me was suffering horribly, I would be happier. I don't think that's particularly crazy, but maybe you disagree.

>>150858417
We need to revolt
Do u guys want me to fly up to coordinate and advise ? Lmk

>>150858972
We should burn Jew houses and beat Jews into comas
Watch how quickly things change when someone starts actually fighting back

>>150859112
"Da j00s" are a meme in this country. Find a way to watch the BBC, and watch an episode of Homes Under the Hammer. It's everything wrong with this country; it's about people buying derelict houses at auction and fixing them up. The houses are always really cheap, so it resonates with people in the current housing crisis, and every single person who ever buys a house on there is "a property developer" who owns 15 houses already, and they are always, always, Muslim. No Jews. If you want a tight-knit community of people who save money by sticking together and only employing each other, then finding themselves much richer than everyone else and fucking over the rest of the country, it's not the Jews here (although they do still figure prominently in the media); it's the Muslims.

>>150859207
Maybe you fuckers should have considered that before making the UK a hub for the Muslim Brotherhood and their shady dealings

>>150859233
GEE I WONDER WHO DID THAT

I'm too tired man. All I wanted was a job with a single room. How hard is that for you all to help me with? You can just click a button and help me and let me move on instead u want to be called kikes on here repeatedly I guess idk
Bizarre idiots

>>150859453
That's the part I don't get. Jews orchestrate everything. Okay, maybe. Continuing with that logic: Jews specifically do everything to flood Europe with Muslims ... so now Europe is more antisemitic than it has been anytime since 1945? What kind of 4D chess is that? Or are they actually retarded?

>>150859489
Good night everyone this looks like the thread. C u tomorrow
Maybe in this thread we liberate England and then the dominos start to fall across the continent

>>150859491
This is as good of a summary as I ever seen:
>Subterfuge in the West
The subjugation of Western populations was achieved primarily through three interconnected policies:
* Anti-natalism: Encouraging lower birth rates among indigenous populations through policies like women's rights, sexual liberation, and birth control.
* Mass-immigration: The intentional replacement of Western populations with Third World colonists through acts like the Hart-Celler Immigration Act of 1965.
* Psycho-social conditioning: A program of miseducation, disinformation and gaslighting designed to deprogram and control Western populations by distorting their culture, history, and daily experience.
The End Goal
This multi-layered system of deception and social engineering is described as an effort to achieve kakistocratic mechanisms and an antinomian end-state

The 4d chess happens within these things it's almost pointless to try to understand the specific machinations

Good night bros I want to again say I'm not an anti semite and I love Jews and it sucks that they hate me but also us

>>150859489
People, in general, will happily hear about your problems, but won't ever offer solutions. What are you looking for help with? Do you want a job? A gf?

Read this, and you will understand that we can't read your mind: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusion_of_transparency

>>150859491
In relation to The Muslim Brotherhood specifically, we know it was heavily backed by Anglos who back then regularly created such factions in colonies to divide and conquer and use them as insider militias while publishing to people that they were actually against them, they and the Jews then helped manufacture the rise of Wahhabism to use Islam to increase the probability of said colonies turning into complete shitholes and thus decrease any probability of said shitholes to pose a threat to Israel which has been a huge success. but it wasn't them who helped them infiltrate Europe, that was the Nazi generals who had fled to Egypt and worked for Nasser but then backstabbed him and sided with the Brotherhood because they saw Islam as Nazism 2.0 so they used their existing connections and helped them set up in Munich, Hamburg, Vienna and London but of course that whole thing backfired. the whole thing is one big clusterfuck, they even have strong ties to Iranian Shias.
Tl;dr Anglos = Muslims = Nazis = Jews

>>150859859
>but it wasn't them who helped them infiltrate Europe, that was the Nazi generals
Immigration after World War II was literally just to replace the people who got killed in the war. Retards seethed about it then too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMT_Empire_Windrush

>>150859207
its both Jews and Muslims who are fucking the UK up. The City of London is full of Jews.

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>>150860132
>Retards

>>150858972
>If I was rich but everyone else was richer than me, I would be unhappy. If I was a bit poor but everyone around me was suffering horribly, I would be happier. I don't think that's particularly crazy, but maybe you disagree.

This encapsulates everything wrong with British people

>>150859061
Revolt? Not possible, look at this anon >>150858972, happy to see everyone else suffering, even whilst on the brink of death.

You could have a lovely neighbourhood, clean streets, quiet, but because his neighbour has a slightly better car, he wants to burn the neighbourhood to the ground.

The super rich still get a nice place to live but he wants to Lord it over homeless people whilst he struggles to feed himself. This right here is the politics of spite

>>150837244
>no matter the team
you're just naming consumer tourist teams, of course they're quiet

>>150837463
I can tell you're not larping
>>150837601
they pipe noise in on tv, its really obvious as well
>>150842513
the issue here is we've long been plagued by the health and safety demon and latin america and eastern europe have not
>>150844628
and that's why money in football was a mistake
>>150848492
that's choreographed cringe though, nothing like the raw chaos we used to have here
>>150850400
>kids don't go and learn the culture and have their enthusiasm kept in line by the old farts, and said old farts (like me) don't get the vampiric boost of teen and early 20s energy lifting you up and bouncing. So you get the 'hush'.
yep spot on. also kids used to get a leg up over the turnstile and get in for free and stand amongst all the noise but if they have a posh enough dad who can afford tickets they're sat in the family area anyway.