Sponsored by Chiikawa Edition>Banzuke:http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Banzuke.aspxhttps://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoBanzuke/index/>Fight Schedule & Results:https://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoMain/torikumi/1/1/>Some sumo links and how to watch live:https://rentry.org/uwbgc88d>Previous Thread>>150857565
1st for Onosato yusho.
>>1509100531st for Aonishiki Manifest Destiny
He just can't get a break can he
Kotoshoho has an opportunity to do the funniest thing tomorrow
>>150910085Should've stayed far away from gramps grave
>>150910125I actually saw a dream where I was viewing banzuke and Kotozakura senior got yokozuna at ripe age of 76
>>150910064Thank you so much.
Did you say sorry to your superior Yokozuna today?
>>150910321>superioruntil get gets another violent bout of the toe ouchies
>>150910338You try fighting without a toe.
>>150910321I only like yokozunas that can win 2 in a row
Lesnar would destroy Onoshito
>>150910467Never heard of her
Today was a perfect demonstration that Onosato has stopped panic pulling because my GOD I was waiting for it.>Opponent hits hard>Come to a standstill with your opponent leaning heavily on youEverything was set up perfectly for the panic pull. Then he remembered he's fucking humongous and has about 50kg on Hiradoumi so just pushed. And it worked!
>>150913325>ONOSHARTO, YOU BIG FAT FUCK, JUST STAND STILL AND THEN PUSH>Thank you sensei Nipponoshekel, I'll take those words to my heart and be the one and true yokozuna
>>150913325>>150913910>Onosato vs Midorifuji>PUSH ONOSATO PUSH (FORREST GUM STYLE)>AAAAAAAIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!>Midorifuji's face
>>150914467Onosato has such a size advantage over Midori that if he didn't just pick him up and carry him out like a baby I'd be disappointed. Not even by the mawashi, just straight up cradling him in his arms.
Horse's first ever 8-0.Fluke? Or new level unlocked?
>>150914695They put more steroids into the chanko, he'll be back to normal once his heart gives out
Speaking of chanko did Onosato finally let his stable have some of the food? Shirokuma beat Asanoyama in a contest of strength.
Man, it'd be very funny if they ruined each other zensho back to back.
>>150914695He is just doing his style of sumo, ganbarizing, listening his oykata and just taking it one day at a time while not thinkin about the yusho
Just think, two more wins and, assuming Hoshoryu fights the rest of the Sanyaku, he'll have gone a basho with zero kinboshi on his 2nd real attempt. It took until uncle's 3rd complete basho as a zuna for that.
>>150916352>He is just doing his style of sumoNot a single leg trip though.
Anyone else feel like Asakoryu is having some sort of spiritual awakening right now? Not necessarily getting better at sumo, but the reality of how hard his size is holding him back hitting home. He needs to transform himself into the second coming of Harumafuji, henka half his fights, or just put on more damn size.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFpcj0pBazsGet some content about a REAL rikishi down your throats you fat fucks.
>>150916427What's his kinboshi percentage looking like now? It must be a lot better since it's still early in his zuna career.
>>150916548he's the inverse of the takakeisho, onosho and ura typesmanlets that put on massive weight to compensate for their lack of height and reachasakoryu is going full buffed manlet mode like they used to back in the day, unfortunately he'll probably suffer the same fate as enho
>>150917082https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH7vQ7pIPKU
>>150916548fujinokawa is stealing his short king energy. if there was only one in the top division they would be stronger but instead they have to share.
>>150917595Then he needs to watch a LOT of tapes of Harumafuji and even Chiyonofuji because he's just gonna retire at 28 with a neck injury and no Sanyaku money at this rate. That the guy who beat Onosato in Onosato's first ever Ozumo fight has had to sit back and watch him waltz effortlessly to the rope is just sad.
>>150917082I HATE HOKUSEIHOI HATE HOKUSEIHOI HATE HOKUSEIHOI HATE HOKUSEIHOI HATE HOKUSEIHO
>>150917985Do you hate him because he fought like a tree, or because you can't handle a bit of banter?
>>150918188The former
me in the back
Koga has a big match tonight. He's had a couple set backs this basho but today is where that all changes. Send him your energy.
>>150917815Chiyonofuji and especially Harumafuji had longer limbs. Asakoryu's not that similarly shaped, just light. Mainoumi was in Enho range, so I honestly don't know. Wakanohana III would be kinda close, I guess. He just has dwarf proportions. Huge head, short limbs. Difficult to find a match, but plenty to be learned from the abovementioned rikishi either way.
>>150919029He can probably learn a lot from Dan tbdesu. Maybe not in terms of outright mimicry, but just in learning to think outside the box. How was Asanowaka I as a rikishi? His weight on sumodb isn't particularly high, though I understand that he likely never fought against the bulk that Asakoryu is struggling with.
https://sumodb.sumogames.de/Kabu.aspx?year=2025&month=9&day=21>List of all kabu and who owns themActually a neat list to scroll through. I didn't know Aoiyama had a kabu and goes by Iwatomo now.What's up with the vacant Kiriyama kabu? Is the cranky old fuck holding it doing it to be a dick? Is it the Enho kabu I've read comments about?
>>150915952we deserved that zensho
>>150919715Because of how old oyakata are, there are still issues with the older ones being grandfathered into the post-2011 rules, meaning the JSA still needs to make sure they have enough of a retirement payout to balance how much they had to buy to buy their stock when they were active wrestlers.
>>150919372>Asanowaka IWikipedia says:"He was a pusher-thruster, rarely fighting on the mawashi or belt. His most common winning kimarite was oshidashi (push out), followed by hiki-otoshi (pull down) and hataki-komi (slap down). He won only six career bouts by yori-kiri (force out) and was only credited once with a belt throw (an uwatenage in 2001).[7]"Damn. Topkek.He was hovering around 140 kg, though. Basically Ura at that point.
>>150920259What if he turned cardio into a kimarite???
>>150920259Wait oh god his Oyakata is basically Ichiyamamoto. Dios mio... send this man to Ajigawa.
>>150920390That's just koshikudake with extra steps (like, actual steps on the clay). Would still be kino.
I said this in the July tournament. And it's more apparent now. Kusano is all strength no technique. Everyone has pretty much figured him out. I'm surprised he's even 4-4.
>>150924831>guy who does good in double digit mægashira ranks does less good when promoted to more competitive single digit ranksbrilliant deduction
>>150924931What does this have to do with my critic against his sumo style? I'm talking about his over reliance on strength. Not his opponent quality.
>>150924831It's only his second tournament in Makuuchi tho. He's still learning.
>>150924831I don't understand why people were saying he was getting wins by being huge. With Onosato I can understand this comment since he was 6'4 and 190kg, but Kusano is 6'1 and 150kg. He isn't huge at all, in fact he's below average in Makuuchi.Kusano is Japanese Shishi.
Speaking of Onosato I had a thought based on that story of him being knocked off his bike by a car when he was 10 (RIP that car).What's the top speed that an original Mini could drive at Onosato, and Onosato successfully stop it? Assuming the front of the car had a little padding so a random shard of metal didn't kill him. I've heard a tachiai between two top big guys can hit 800-900kg of force, and according to Google a Mini weighed 585kg.
>>150925856Yeah, I don't get it either. He's strong and was bigger than the guys he came up with (Aonishiki, Fujinokawa), but he's bang on average sized in Makuuchi.
>>150926308he looks more muscle than lard. Also have you seen his legs? They are as big as Onosato's
>>150926508Maybe he's getting the same disappointed glare training that's worked for Atamifuji lately.
Some times you win 4 in a row, some times you lose 4 in a row.It do be like that.
Is Hosh this good, or is everyone jobbing to him?
>>150927331This is him healed and confident. He still looks like he's putting up a fight and actually wrestling with his opponents.Onosato is the one looking sus with all of his matches being>push forward>winthen again, they are yokozuna
How funny would it be if Abi did a Midorifuji and won every match from now on?
>>150910053Who were the Chikawa banners for? Not sure I've seen a comic / animation ad on those banners since I've started watching in 2022
ICHINOJOC H I / m y b r o /
>>150928990easy yokozuna if he didn't fatmaxxx
>>150929449Fatmaxxxing could've worked, the problem was his crippling alcoholism resulting in an inability to give a shit. If he gave a shit he could've made it.
>>150929604im just glad he reited after one last motivated run
>>150913325>Pushing is...strong!
>>150928098Hosh and 'sato have looked equal this basho. Sure H*kuoho got the better of 'sato but the rest of his matches have looked better on average than Hosh's matches, where guys like Hiradoumi have given him a run for his money. Even Gonoyama scared Hosh while Onosato told him point blank to fuck off into the third row.Both are performing as Yokozuna this basho. No one else really looks close. Dan still has that low-Hosh energy where you assume he'll win a matchup but you're still lowkey scared he won't.
>>150929680
>>150930349I've learned not to bet against Dan
>>150929604he couldn't have got as big as he did without alcohol to begin with, there isn't enough time in the day to eat 15,000 calories of chanko, with alcohol you can drink down 1000 calories in under a minute easy
>>150919372>Dan>learning to think outside the boxDan's style is pretty conventional historically, even if it's not the most common today. It's not like he has some secret freestyle wrestling moves that has never been seen in sumo before. Dan's secret is having the technical skill, athleticism, and brain to succeed while having a coach who seems like he can actually coach.
>>150929604>>150933637But he only had a crippling alcoholism addiction as a coping mechanism for all his injuries. Injuries which he couldn't take time off to recover from because he was the only one keeping the lights on as the stable's only sekitori.
>>150928990
>>150933735Dan is also incredibly strong and he trains harder than anyone else, he is also still getting stronger at a rapid pace, back in May he wasn't able to outmuscle Zak, but the last two times they've met Dan won both just by pushing harder than Zak did, its probably not much longer until he is stronger than Onosato too.
>>150933637>15,000 calories of chankothey're not eating 15,000 calories of chanko, rice is the primary calorie source
>>150935871Every meal a rikishi eats is chanko.
>>150934878>>150930354based and SEXINOJO
>>150935990>Every meal a rikishi eats is chanko.the dark gambit, you will grow strong and fat but everything tastes the same for the rest of your life
>>150934882But Onosato BTFOs Dan every time…
>>150936277Seems like a mass problem more than anything. Onosato's got amost 50kgs on him. Hard to avoid when someone's as good at forward sumo as Onosato.
>>150936277Dan is currently 21, not even close to prime age for strength and powerif he doesnt get absolutely riddled with injuries he's going to continue developing into a monster, frame is his only real limitation
Looks like the zuna run starts next basho.
>>150938445He is trying to hack the banzuke by falling to a rank so low that he ends up on top. banzuke horseshoe theory.
>>150938445He is allowing Mita to shine right nowIt wouldnt be appropriate to steal his thunder
>>150936725Zelensky will have to draft him in the next couple years
shunta back in positive territory.
Hmm...
Total Ikazuchido loss
bigaznman picked up his first win
Okaryu needs to get his shit together if he wants to reach juryo
Miyanokaze a bitch.
Do you guys think Tochitaikai is immune to slaps with how flat his face is?
lads i cannot wait until march when i get to see these big fat bastards slap the shit out of each other in person
I forgot Shishi was still even competing.
>SLAVA UKRAIN-ACK
Ryuden yusho will happen
I will never understand how Tokihayate has made it this far. He doesn't seem to have a plan.
>>150941199That's his plan
All M*dnight has to do is not talk about people he's banning. That's literally it.
>>150941228Would be nice.
The fruits of Futagoyama's training plan.
bad fall
>Shodai Yusho (2nd)>>150941270Karma for kicking Teru's bad knee that one time still coming back to him.
How the fuck is Shitdai 8-1.
No evil spirits here. None.
>>150941275>Abi is 0-8>Shodai suddenly 8-1Ummm bros, I think I know who's body the yokai transferred to....
>>150941284beetorujyuusubeetorujyuusubeetorujyuusu
With both Yokozuna showing up in form we can finally see what Makuuchi looks like when all the evil spirits are gone.>Abi stripped of all power>Turns out Daieisho was an evil spirit after all>Shodai and Takanosho were the good guys all along
>>150941303>Daieisho was an evil spiritNo, he a bull.
Now comes the part where Ura goes 6-9
No Ura yusho it seems
>>150941318He has the face of a hentai pig man rape demon.
MANLETBROS??? ARE WE RISING UP???
kek.
that gyoji in green is fucking enormous
Midget power
Midorifuji saves us from the clown basho.
>>150941375Takanosho is respectable.
>Kaz-ACK!!!stan
Post it.
That dog stole my takeaway!
Feast
Gonoyama is just pathetic this basho.
>0-9How could this happen to meeeeI made my mistakesLife goes on as I'm fadin awaaay
Kisenosato always looks like he ate too much chanko and is fighting off a food coma.
>Oho pulls>Oho... WINS?!?!
tom....
Ah yes, lines and circles, very interesting
>>150941477Be kind to the old man
>>150941448>>150941452Terutsuyoshi must be quaking in his boots
>0-9No ones know what it's like...to be the sad man
i dont think abi even tried
This was just sad... Abi trying to nodowa Dan was just too sad to watch.
That damn shifty Dan with his strange kimarite such as>*checks notes*Pushing and thrusting?
>>150941541Gino-Sho incoming.
Kirishima comeback begins now.
AAAh... not like this...
Good match.
WAKAT- ACK
2026 Ozeki attempt for you Wak
Damn, I really believed in the Ozeki run
Atami...
Who is that guy in the hallway looking at kotozakura before he grabs his salt?
I'm just gonna fucking say it, I prefer a clown basho to a bore basho like this.
He's still just not san'yaku material yet.
>>150941614His lesbian life partner.
>>150941614His guardian spirit. Only those who will soon die can see him.
Atamin sanyaku in 2026 I believe
FRAUDSHOHO ON HIS WAY TO MK
Almost lost it again.
Outskilled
Slippery.
kotoshoho sucks
Up until he won he was losing
Hosh can’t be stopped, slippery
Horse is back on the tracks, baby!
>getting bitched by kotoshohoYeah he’s not winning shodai yusho inbound
How on earth did he keep his balance
The honor of the Waka's is on the line..the other two lost...
Despite Shishi's lost, that spaz is still a dark horse. He'll farm all the Juryo fill ins and yusho
HOLY SHIT
BODIED.
How...
the hell?
Good defensive sumo by both Yokozuna.
CALL AN AMBULANCE FOR WAKAMOTOHARU
Onosoto trying to end careers lol
Onosatruck-kun
This guy in the audience was fucking smiling as he saw a combined mass of 350kg about to fall on top of him
Turns out spinning was the right play!Sasuga onosato
>>150941541>Pushing and thrusting?le heckin uchimuso man
This is what I expected for Wakatakakage, but not what I had hoped for. If he goes 10-5 and beats one of the 'zuna they still might give it to him, but I really don't see that happening. Only thing left now is to outperform Zak for the moral victory.
>Mitoryu intaiWe need more ugly bastards in sekitori ranks
>>150943502Give Kazuma a few more tournaments to get there.
>>150943502We need more ikemen in sekitori ranksOkaryu get in there.
>>150941646>>150941650slippery slope
Ryuden's admirable determination
Dan broke yet another sumo record, this time for the fastest to reach 100 wins
This would be a great shot if it weren't for the fact that he lost
>>150945022Thank you our great leader
>>150945327me right now
>>150945488>this is your previous Basho winner
>>150945511he can't run with the big dawgs
>9-0 going into day 10Hoshoryu is now standing where the great Kinbozan once stood.
>>150945488I ended up watching this guy's reaction more then Waka's fight
>>150945488Japanese John Waters with the red flannel dress coat be like>Why do I come to the Arena? Honestly? I love the way the combatants move. It's like an... an erotic dance. The bodies, the sweat, the... oh.
I always enjoy the contrast between the stoicism of the shrimpman and the excited reactions of the spectators >WOWEEE!!! OMG THAT ONE GUY LOST AND AND THE OTHER GUY WON!!!!vs>just another day at the office
>>150941541Dan has a budget of 6 uchimuso per basho and he used them all on Atamifuji before the torinaoshi.
>>150941614It's his assistant. Apparently Zak is top tier with his assistants and they all really want to help him to greatness, so they're doing his corner routine with him so he can remind himself that he's fighting for his homies. If he can get back to 10-5s and regain his Ozeki pride it's more than worth it, which he's on course for right now, though he still has Onosato and Hoshoryu who are going to murder him. Hopefully he'll take a win off Hoshoryu, that'll regain him a ton of pride.
>>150941742A rikishi falling on you is considered good luck, and he was about to have two of them on him. The fact he was about to die hadn't yet crossed his mind.
>>150945827the hands were great
Another amazing day of sumo. My only complaint is WTK's Ozeki run essentially ending and needing a full restart. Dan got another convincing win, Zak took the trash out, Hoshoryu scrapped his way to victory again, and holy shit that Onosato match. WMH basically hit a Dark Souls perfect parry or some shit on Onosato's left arm and man was he not expecting it. Then he walked him out like a naughty schoolboy lmao.
>>150946126Onosato's spin was so quick and he got set so fasthe recovered faster than Haru could take advantage of it, that was amazing to seelike I've seen a lot of rikishi spin but that was an S-class spin
>>150946178Has Onosato ever had to spin before? I suppose being as light on his feet as he is at that size helps.
Nobehara KWABbing his way to the bottom of makushita
>>150946217Not that I can recall specifically but it has probably happened before.
Really liked that sekiwake showdown, looked like wakatakaKOGA had then advantage when he shook off kirishitma's belt grip, but then surprise ending. WTKoga might end up dodging one or both of his yokozuna fights if they're tied up with Dan, Zak, Takanosho, Shodai, Ryuden & each other over the last 5 days, so winning out might still not be impossible for him.
Who would you rather WTK dodged, Hosh or 'sato?
>>150946621SHODAI HAS ALWAYS BEEN MY BOY. THIS IS HIS YUSHO!!!
>>150946757Shodai already has a yusho, let Hoshoryu win one for once :(
>>150946757>LEAVE SHODAI TO ME...
>>150946720In his current form, his chance of beating 'sato is 0%. Hosh is still the large favorite, but there's at least a small chance wtk could win.
"If any fighter can soldier on to better things, it's you.">Mitoryu's Oyakata after his retirement announcementImagine being Teru and hearing this bullshit.
>>150946954the hilarious thing is that if he gets promoted by dodging yokozuna bouts due to a lot of early losses then everyone will shit all over his promotion and call him a fake ozeki.
>>150947480I don't care, WTK making Ozeki means Shishi can't survive on 7-8 again because M18e will disappear.
>>150947505shishi's leg injury head so he is good now, he'll get an extra large promotion on the next banzuke because he'll go ahead of all the juryo risers, still stands a chance at a sansho this basho too
ono recovered from thathe is him
Yeah yeah Ono is good, but lesser Waka shouldn't have let him recover from that either.
>>150948074They both took a second to react, it's just that no one can push Onosato if he's set and all it took him is a second. Shirokuma only pushes him in butsukari because Onosato has mercy on him.
>>150946320I feel sorry for the big lad, he was close, at the cusp, then I think he started to wrestle nervously and got hurt
>>150948269It's practically a miracle there are any sekitori at all in Futagoyama. Those who are there are there because they have their own excellence, but those who need to grow, be trained, and mentored to flourish... well, they have a harder time.
>>150948269Wakamiyabi is getting pooped on too. It's over for makushita futagosloppers.
>>150948340>It's practically a miracle there are any sekitori at all in FutagoyamaHaving a sekitori is easy; just take on a huge Mongolian. Tuva is practically Mongolia. He got lucky with Nabatame and his childhood friend Mita. Mita especially because he's all set for Makuuchi. Female fans are gooning over him already.
>>150948365>Roga please...bring in some kensho...we're starving...we're having to resort to Nabatame's shitty ramen...
>>150949186>No you can eat Denuma's ramen that he sweated in
>>150949226
>>150949186Roga under pressure to stay between m10 and m15 with 7-8s for as long as possible to keep the lights on. Hard to say how Mita will do in makuuchi.
Denuma is the most disgusting chef I've ever seen. Koga is Michelin starred compared to him.>>150949356Roga has been so lucky on 7-8s that I assume he'll get promoted on them at some point.
How much beya slop do you guys consume to be able to rank their cooking?
Ochiai was a better rikishi than Hakuoho. JUST SAYING.
>>150949695Kotonowaka was better than Kotozakura
>>1509499342024 Kotozakura was absolute peak, he had the most wins of any rikishi including Onosato despite the latter's two y*sho.
>>150949356>Hard to say how Mita will do in makuuchi.the last 4 to get consecutive juryo yushos all had double digits in their subsequent makuuchi performances. there was a guy in 1990 who went 2-13 in makuuchi after his consecutive juryo championships, but he was so injured he retired the next basho
>>150949934Zak can put up 14-1KOGAnowaka could never
>>150950018I see, thanks. Guess I'll be cautiously optimistic then.
Mita is bigger than manlet F*jinokawa so he'll be fine.
aside from kyujos nearly everyone (12 of 15 occurrences) after 2010 put up double digits in makuuchi after consecutive juryo bashos with 11 or better wins, but between 1970 and 2010 almost nobody did (2 of 21 times) so you pretty much have to guess that there was serious hazing that used to be done to guys just promoted from juryo which ended after 2010
Two more wins and Nishikifuji continues Aomori's almost 150 year run of having a Makuuchi rikishi by replacing T*kerufuji.
God I want Kayo to do well but holy fuck he's such a fucking butterball.
>>150945488>heh, nothin personnel kid
>>150946954He's beaten Onosato more than Hoshoryu since coming back.>>150950447Shishi's okamisan, right?
>>150950734>Shishi's okamisan, right?hai
how come horseshitryu is dodging dan, whats he afraid of?
who the fuck is "dan"
>>150950244If you shift the time table to 2011 instead of 2010, that's when the match-fixing scandle broke which almost certainly was related to makunouchi debutantes not doing well. One can assume that group of guys was telling newbies to eat shit on their debut or the normal hazing would look like a joke. Then those guys got booted out and the dam burst.
>>150950734That was before Onosato made his improvements and got to where he is now. Wtk doesn't have a chance against this 'sato
>>150951022Danylo Yavhusishin
>>150951047But he has against 9-0 Hosh? He hasn't beaten him since January 2023.
>>150951022See, there used to be a wrestler named Aoiyama whose real name was Daniel and we nicknamed him Dan. He was also a slav. Then he retired last year.Then some random unrelated slav from somewhere else showed up and people started calling him Dan. The end.
>>150951194It's because his real name is Danylo. There's a reason why nobody called Shishi Dan, because his real name is Serhii.
>>150951222Then explain why they call Musashigawa's nephew Dan too.It's because they're fucking idiots who saw a slav and thought Dan. Quit trying to change history to cover up for morons.
>>150950931>whats he afraid ofbeing unable to hit a sloppy throw and getting chucked off the dohyo or falling into the knee tap trap
>>150951229You retarded?
>>150950931it's just schedulingbut since both yokozuna have already fought 1 Komusubi at the beginning, days 11-15 are reserved for the remaining sanyaku matchups, including the day 15 match between both yokozunawell, assuming Takayasu doesn't withdraw in the next 2 days
Japan needs to immediately deport all Mongolians back to their 3rd world shit hole. Chiyoshoma going for a forearm shiver on Mita because he is over the hill and going to drop out of juryo by January.
>>150953185Wish you would get deported instead.
>>150953185you ok there lil bro
I know people rag on Denuma for his sweaty cooking but let's be real, I guarantee you that your parents at some point in time have either sneezed, coughed, pick their nose, or farted on your food in the cooking practice
>>150953852Sumos most dedicated fan here
That was definitely a matta, but oh well. Kyoda kachi-koshi.
kotofuno had a fun day on the dohyo
>Shinyashikidude stays in his room all day polishing his ass
>>150914695>Or new level unlocked?He's always had the potential, he's just never been able to be as consistent as he should be.
>>150916352
>>150951194It's because his name is Dan. You were corrected on this issue the previous basho.
Tree Takasago wrestlers introduced in a row
Takarafuji looking absolutely pathetic, sending him to retirement will be a mercy killing
KK for the assman
>>150957874The Sadogatake vs Arashio undercard is mildly interesting. East finally tallies a win
Hidenoumi with a massive career advantage vs Kagayaki, including winning 9 of the last 10, but not tonight
It's over....
>Tohak'dMy man Aasahakuryu back in the race.
Mita deceived and dispensed with
audible ass slap when mong went for the belt grab
kayo
>>150957874Letting Dan do all the heavy lifting while the yokozunæ play around with sissy sanyaku
Ura now dewsweeper.
Day 10: Isegahama (Terunofuji)
>>150945827Is that a leatherface shirt?
Terunofuji looks thrilled. Atamifuji better not fuck up today or chanko is off the menu
lmao what a shiter
Dishonorable Sumo from the manlet.
Ryuden yusho run still on the cards
dishonorabu
So many damn henka. Boring.
Very dishonorable Sumo today.
just so we dont lose track, let me remind you all that the objective of this basho is complete and total abi death
>mfw Ura
Strong Ura.
U R A
there will come a day that Ura takes off the knee sleeves on the first day of a basho, and then he will zensho
>>150958571You can't kill concepts. Abi is eternal.
Shodizzle
Nob dog takes this.
>Shitdai
part of the plan
Takanosho has looked so good this basho.
Day after day, when we get to this stage of the torikumi, I am reminded that Churanoumi exists. Then I immediately forget.
> :º)Incoming Shodai 8-7
post yfw ryuden yusho or even jy with playoff loss
>>150958652
THE LOW MAEGASHIRA FARM IS REAL
>>150958652>THATS MY YUSHO...>THATS MY YUSHOOOOO!!!!
I do not like Kinbozan.
>>150958669No shit.
>>150958679Too bad.
Finally, we're getting some katsu.
How did that get put down as oshidashi?
>>150958692Four in a row. Can't stop the push.
Kuso...
Lmao Kusano had NOTHING.
Now that's the Daieisho I know. Heal on the dohyo, brother.
>2 henka and a stepoutI feel the evil spirits rousing today
Lanklet-bros...
Will never be sanyaku.
Back to farming low maegashira next basho I guess
Poor Teru. All his boys are underperforming plus no Takeru.
OHHO>*BANG*>*BANG* OHHO>*BANG*>*BANG*
Lmao just push
abi comeback any minute now
>>150958571>total abi deathNot so fast, bud.
What the fuck?
>>150958772FUCK YOU
Oh shit, evil spirits rising.
fake and gay sport
All those henkas gave Abi power
Tamawashed.
Both Hosh and Onosato will lose tonight
>>150958789I would fucking vomit.
Shitoyama
Nice comeback from Papa Bear.
just so we dont lose track, let me remind you all that the objective of this basho is complete and total gonoyama death
leave 0-15 to me Abi-dono
>>150958789Only Hosh, please. I want a 3-men playoff.
>>150958816The evil spirits demand them both.
Oh shit now this is a matchup.
get your shit greentext ready spainon
Has Dan fought Onosato and Hosh this Basho yet?
>>150958831Lost to Onosato. Hoshoryu not yet.
>>150958831He got blasted by 'sato day one but hasn't fought Hosh.
>>150958831Yes, Onosato did his>go forward>winkimarite
76th Yokozuna Aonishiki>The Ghost of Kiev>The Last Soldier of the Azov Battalion>The Tsar of the Mawashi>The Destroyer of Knees>Diamond Back>Dan the Terrible>Taiho Reincarnated>The True Great White Phoenix>SAY!>HIS!>NAME!
I'm going to be disappointed if he goes 12-3
CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME HOW DAN KEEPS OVERPOWERING GUYS KNOWN FOR THEIR POWER
>>150950447Mama...
dans stability and grip is insane
death by mawashi
white boy summer
>>150958846Here's a diagram.
>>150958851Only if Shishi stays up
>>150958852Thanks Teru.
>>150958851It's autumn.
murray had to stop himself from calling aonisiki ugly lmao
>>150958846He still doesn't speak nihongo very well, so he didn't understand that they're supposed to be known for their power
yeah, im thinking gino-sho
>>oh fuck..
>>150958854If Dan forces a 3rd sekiwake slot, Shishi's M18e spot will vanish, meaning Shishi can't survive on a 7-8.>Hohol on Hohol action
>>150958846powerful slavic orc genetics and muscle fibre density
Let's go. Ono x Hosh x Dan Day 15 playoff.
>>150958859He only calls horses beautiful
Remind me, is an Ozeki run eligible to start from joi, or do you need to be at least in sanyaku for the 11 to count?
>>150958866>No more brothers wars...>STFU HOMO ERECTUS NIGGA!
The Ozeki run...
And there it goes....
Its Overzeki
my dog hirado, just beatiful
>>150958879Short answer: yes, but it depends.
>>150958879There's no hard and fast rules and the JSA will do whatever they want. I wouldn't be surprised if they were willing to let Dan's run start at M1e since he's been so excellent, but giving him another basho to prove his consistency would be understandable.
Teru has to buy some eyedrops to be able to glare at all the underperforming maegashira
Aonishiki is clearly going to be ozeki on january banzuke unless he shits the bed completely or NSK demands another sekiwake basho just to be sure
>>150958866M>K>S>O last time was 1962 so heres M>S>S>Olooks like you need a yusho or 2 jun yusho for the joi wins to count
>>150958868Oh no, he's got the 55 times superman syndrome
Can't help but think he choked. Then again, he's never been as consistent as people have been saying.
>>150958916?
>>150958908meant for>>150958879
>>150958908Dan got a JY last time which would be the first of his run should it turn out to be one.
Kotozakura is feeling it. That was smart sumo.
Wait is Kotozakura an Ozeki???
smart sumo from ack
There is only one Ozeki and he does not share power
>>150958915>superman syndrome
>>150958918Waka. Looks like the app I'm using delayed the post somehow.
This whole sekiwake thing just isn't working out. Can we have Abi and WMH back?
>THAT'S WHAT YOU GET FOR TAKING MY JULY TROPHY YOU BIG LIPPED FUCK
swatted like a flyyusho winn-ACK
ack winning, fishboy muddedstable balance is restored
>easily removedGet fucked Kotoshoho.Jesus, just how much of a clown Basho was the last Basho.
Another maegashira yusho winner exposed
looked exactly how i would do against onosatokotosholol
??? I get it that he is fighting higher ranks on average, but what the fuck is Kotoshoho doing
I feel like intentional matta to mess with your opponent should be punished.
>>150958959>what the fuck is Kotoshoho doingNewsflash, he was never good.He just farmed low level maegashira for one week and a half last Basho to get the yusho.
He deserved it. He's just got a hangover.
>>150958968I mean he did beat some Onosato and Aonishiki last time with good looking sumo. I did not expect him to beat them again, but he looks totally out of it this time
>>150958971>He deserved it.>11 days in a row of maegashira farmingSure, dude.Sure.
Kayo could have prevented this
Hosh forgot to shave
>>150958955>>150958957>>150958959>>15095896827 maegashira won the yusho since '58 (6-basho era)8 of those won since 2020; that's 30% of wins in 7,5% of bashoClown era.
>>150958988they dont shave if they go zensho
fucking HANDLED
>>150958988There to remind the Japanese to know the Mongol Menace is at 100% power
And with that day 10 win and the assumption that he's only fighting Sanyaku from this point, Hoshoryu has now gone a basho with zero kinboshi.
Lots of salt on the dohyo... That looked very slippery.
Like a sack of potatoes
100 MORE YEARS OF MONGOLIAN SUPREMACY
>>150958992>new generation of sumo >taught by the guys who survived the match fixing scandals>shit is unpredictable and wild nowwow I wonder how far back the match fixing went
>>150959007More like they're being taught by the guys who survived the hawaiian/mongol/european invasion. When you give that many makkuuchi slots to people who don't stick around, there's not a lot of talent left to lead after a while.
>>150958971more deserved than whatever the fuck this was
>>150959028>that juryo>only one sanyaku
>>150959007It's really not about match fixing. >>150959013It's not so much that the foreigners left of their own accord, but moreso that successful wrestlers have been systematically ousted for a couple of decades. Wakanohana left because of how controlling the JSA was, Akebono because the fan club was forcing him into an arranged marriage, Asashoryu probably had it coming, Takanohana tried to overthrow the JSA leadership and got thrown out and Hakuho was pushed into retirement for something no other oyakata would be because of his pridefulness. Even fucking Chiyonofuji had issues with them.
Don't forget Harumafuji, exiled because the JSA couldn't handle his level of hinkaku.>Mita lost and the Pussy Slayer wonOh damn, but I guess it shouldn't really be a surprise that Asanoyama would be in the runnings for a Juryo yusho.
>>150959064Was just gonna make an addendum. He's kind of a victim of Takanohana's uprising.
My boy Goshima is practically a lock in for Juryo come November with his win today. 4-1 at Ms5. He has that Onosato look of just being fucking huge despite only being 5'11.
I wonder what the lower ranking wrestlers feel when they're like 20-5 against a specific person
Hidenoyama-beya has a gaijin joining them?
>>150959146Yeah me hahaha.
>>150959096His physique is insane.
I feel like the roots of Atamifujis problems are the same as they were a year ago. The higher ranks will not give him a beltgrip easily and he does 0 oshi sumo. Only Kirishima and Wakatakakage seem to be relying that much on the mawashi, and they are 10 times more agile than he is. I don’t know if he is untrained or what, but the fact that he refuses to just push as the heaviest rikishi is baffling.
>>150959501>Atamifujis problemsJust being in makuuchi is pretty impressive for a blind guy.
>>150959050>systematically ousted for a couple of decades.That’s not systematic ousting, though. Each of the examples you mentioned are easily explained extenuating circumstances. (Wakanohana left because he was feuding with his brother, btw.)The only one where you could point to the JSA itself conspiring against someone would be Hakuho; and even then, Hakuho is hardly blameless. He clearly didn’t appreciate the idea of starting at the bottom like every single other newbie elder.
>>150959050>list of Yokozuna and their JSA fatesOnosato: currently activeHoshoryu: currently active Terunofuji: current IsegahamaKisenosato: current NishonosekiKakuryu: current OtowayamaHarumafuji: Didn’t have Japanese citizenship so could not have stayed on regardless of how he leftHakuho: resigned after feuding with the JSAAsashoryu: Didn’t have Japanese citizenship so could not have stayed on regardless of how he leftMusashimaru: current MusashigawaWakanohana: resigned after falling out with his brother Takanohana: resigned after failed coup attempt Akebono: left JSA after failing to obtain elder shareAsahifuji: current MiyaginoOnokuni: current ShibatayamaHokutoumi: current HakkakuFutahaguro: fired as an active wrestler Takanosato: deceased, former NarutoChiyonofuji: deceased, former KokonoeAll others deceased.If you look at the historical record, the list of Yokozuna who either left the JSA early or never joined after retirement isn’t limited to just foreigners. The citizenship requirement adds a wrinkle, but the Yokozunas of the 90s all being gone seems more like an oddity than a trend.
>>150960001Additional note: Hoshoryu has applied for citizenship, suggesting he wants to stay with the JSA following his active career.
Just got my BST confirmation for nov day 1. :)
>>150959083What do you think was going through Old Man Futagoyama's head?
>>150960001>Harumafuji: Didn’t have Japanese citizenship so could not have stayed on regardless of how he left>Asashoryu: Didn’t have Japanese citizenship so could not have stayed on regardless of how he leftDid not know this. So you're telling me the pinnacle of a sport that is uniquely Japanese are not afforded citizenship? Did they just not want it or weren't offered it?
>>150960495You have to apply for it. I don't think it's "offered" to anyone.
>>150960495The sticking point is that Japan does not allow dual citizenship, which means you must renounce your previous citizenship before Japan gives you citizenship. This increases the bureaucratic delays triply, because your old country has no incentive to rush to recognize you renouncing them, and both countries under international law must ensure that bureaucratic snafus don't leave a person stateless. This ended up fucking over Kakuryu's old stable, which had to dissolve and move before Kakuryu was allowed to inherit it.
>>150960719the other thing is Japan basically never punished those who hold a dual citizenship so normal people don't really care. they can keep both citizenships virtually and nothing happens. everyone just ignores and it works.only famous people, mainly famous athletes, have to do that unusual tiresome shit.
kino
>>150960968Does he always have a tsukibito doing that? I had no idea.
>>150960495They both would have been fired if they didn't retire themselves. The only reason they didn't have citizenship is because they didn't expect to need it anytime soon.>>150959910>Wakanohana left because he was feuding with his brotherWakanohana left the JSA in 2000. Takanohana I died in 2005, which prompted the very public feud between the brothers. There were also a few negative statements about the JSA being control freaks, him never wanting his kid doing sumo because of them and them hiding an american football offer from him back when he was a rikishi. >extenuating circumstancesWhen you have 1 or 2, it's extenuating circumstances. When you have 6 out of 10, it's a pattern.
>>150960495>Did they just not want it?Asashoryu did not. He never had any intention of staying on. He was going to cash his last check and go back home to Mongolia, where he had been investing heavily.Harumafuji? Who knows? Usually, foreigners who intend to stay on typically get their applications in the second they can. Maybe Harumafuji thought he had more time, but he was nearly 30 when he made ozeki, so I wouldn’t guess it was a high priority for him.
>AAAIIIEEEE
Anyone have that video of terutsuyoshi in an mma match where his opponent is seething because he keeps losing via a ringout?
>>150961149>NOKOTTA>NOKOTTA>NOKOTTA>Deep breath>NOKOTTA>NOKOTTA>NOKOTTA>NOKOTTA>SHOBUOWARI
Ura using Ki magic again
>>150961169I hate to nitpick because I kek'd, but it's shoubu ari
>>150961255they typically say it in such a rushed fashion to where I just hear that instead
>>150960968Kino
>>150961008It is extenuating circumstance. You can’t say it’s a systemic thing when it’s not the system conspiring to get rid of these guys.In the the list in >>150960001There’s maybe three examples dating back to the 80s.Wakanohana was just sick of the JSA’s shit. Were they suppressing him or did he need a break from a thing that had dominated his life from birth?Takanohana literally went to war with the JSA. He lost and he left. He could have stayed on. Same with Hakuho. When you lose a power struggle you can take your whupping or you can leave.but The JSA didn’t get rid of Akebono, Akebono shot himself in the foot by alienating his supporters.The two Mongolians could not have become elders anyway. That’s not the JSA tricking them.Sure, they’re a bunch of corrupt old guys but if they were that dead set against foreigners holding shares, they’d look pretty silly since there’s like a dozen foreigners already in the JSA.
The real JSA conspiracy is against Takatoriki’s sons.Oho spends his career in a stable with literally no one who can compete with him, coached by a guy who never made it out of juryo.That old bastard retires and the stable is given to some nobody who capped out at M9 and only scored a KK in the top division once in twelve attempts.
>>150961262Speaking of, every time the announcer says "Gyoji gunbai etc." I always hear "Gyoji-kun" and find that really cute!
>>150961336Takatouriki needs to learn to keep his mouth shut, if he knows what’s good for his boys.
>>150961336Should've followed the eldest into pro wrestling, they would've made more money that way. Hanada also figured that out when his football dreams dissolved, even though oyakata are still trying to jump over each other to recruit him.
>>150961278>The two Mongolians could not have become elders anywayAgain, wrong. They could've if they wanted to. Neither expected to retire when they did. Not having citizenship at that point on its own means nothing.>Akebono shot himself in the foot by alienating his supporters. The man lost his kabu for refusing an arranged marriage.>they were that dead set against foreigners holding sharesNever made this claim. Dunno who you're responding to.
>>150961183
>>150961431>Should've followed the eldest into pro wrestling, they would've made more money that way.Maybe the two brothers who can’t get out of makushita, but I don’t think Yukio Naya makes as much as Oho. Yukio doesn’t exactly headline events for NJPW or anything like that. He’s a mid-carder in an indie promotion.
>>150961452I don’t know why you’re fighting this point so hard. Do you think that every one of these guys got screwed or something? How do you plan to fix it?Just enjoy the sumo. Stop trying to turn everything into chrischizo politics.
>>150958643The competition for top ranked wrestler at Kise stable is one of the exciting sub sub plots of every basho and Churanoumi has been in the mix pretty consistently for the last year or so
>>150961452>Not having citizenship at that point on its own means nothing.That’s not exactly true. Getting citizenship is a years-long process and there is no grace period with the JSA. If you’re not a citizen when you retire, you cannot hold a share, not even the five-year membership granted a Yokozuna.Like the other guy said, those who are interested in staying with the JSA long term get started as early as possible.For example, let’s say Harumafuji really did want to stay, he was 33 when he retired. He’d been eligible to hold a share for over ten years at that point.But he also married a Mongolian girl, he’d received his law enforcement qualifications in Mongolia while still an active wrestler and attended distance learning classes at a Mongolian university.Really seems like he was planning for a post sumo life in Mongolia.
>>150961560Kisebeya seems like the low-key strongest stable despite not having any single super-strong guy.
>>150961649They're the 2nd ranked stable after Iseghama, if Miyagino had split back off from Iseghama then Kise would probably be top right now
>>150961814Is there any truth to the rumor that Hakuoho became such good friends with Atamifuji that he would not have wanted to leave to join the re-established Miyagino stable?
>>150958679Silence infidel dog. Kinbozan is Allah's strongest warrior and will one day conquer al-yabaan.
>>150961413Takatoriki is still mad he got booted for gambling while miyabiyama and other guys got to stay. His kids hate him so he doesn’t have anything to lose.
Speaking of takatoriki, does sadogatake have the scummiest oyakata/okami duo? Is there a power rankings for this?
Will Aonishiki surpass Taiho and become the greatest Ukrainian rikishi?
>>150961975no lol
>>150960968I can't help but think his tsukibito has down syndrome every time they show him, he's just standing there looking autistic.
>>150961529I have no reason to care for them beyond what entertainment themselves and their students could provide me. We are at what looks like the tail end of a pretty dry half a decade of ozumo and it seems to me all these notable absences aren't unrelated. That's it.>>150961610>Getting citizenship is a years-long processIt took Hakuho 5 months to obtain it. I did say "on its own" for a reason, though. It does seem like they didn't intend to stay. Not that it changes anything relating to JSA shenanigans. It just means they didn't get screwed as hard because all they lost was the rest of their wrestling careers.
>>150962342>It took Hakuho 5 months to obtain it.It didn't, that's just how long it took between applying to renounce his Mongolian citizenship and getting his Japanese citizenship. But that's not at the start of the process, because as mentioned above, countries can't accept a renunciation of citizenship unless it's guaranteed that you will receive a new citizenship so that you are not stateless.
>>150961975The Danosato era will reveal all, stay tuned for the next decade to find out. I can see how Dan might get stuck at ozeki with Onosato hogging up all the yushoes
>>150962367I know it took Terunofuji two and a half years from start to finish.
>>150962409Ditto Kakuryu.
>>150962428I wonder who that dapper gentleman with the topknot is
>>150962428He must have to get some new clothes tailored for him every month. It does look like he’s slowing down though, which is good.
>>150959501Atami's problem is he's all fat no muscle.
>>150960122Alcohol, probably.
>>150962806This. He’s put on too much weight and he can barely move now. Plus, he has basically no oshi skills.
>>150962263I genuinely thought it was that downie who rode in Hosh's January victory parade car at first.>>150960998I think it's new for this basho. Zak wants to remind himself that he's fighting for all the people who support him. He's desperately fighting to regain his Ozeki pride.
>>150962428Holy fuck not only has he slimmed down completely but he's gone on HRT!
>>150958297
>>150963249Wrong mawashi colour, gaylord.
Tonight's M2 head to head will strongly influence who will take over one of the two likely available sanyaku slots for November. And it won't be Hakuoho because he is injured, so congratulations to Oho.
>>150963357Grats to Oho making his debut at Komusubi, 8 months after making his debut at Sekiwake.
There's actually a non-zero chance that both Sekiw-ACK!!!e go 7-8 and Aonishiki is joined there by Oho once again. Making Sekiwake twice without touching Komusubi would be the most Oho shit ever.
>>150963357Hakuoho is injured? I mean, he’s taped, but he looks like he’s moving well.
>>150963531That arm is useless, its Hakuohover
>>150963664But enough about Takeru.
Basho can still switch over to full clown mode if yokozunas end up foregoing sanyaku matchups to face off against Ryuden and Shodai in the last few days. Also inb4 >Ryuden's aborted title runor some such banter if he loses to Takanosho later today
When Ura does conventional sumo instead of trying to do flips and shit. He actually wins.
>Ryuden beats Hoshoryu in a belt fight>Shodai's tachiai blows Onosato backwards>In the ensuing chaos Ura's 12-3 takes the yusho
>>150964132He has been joi or borderline for most of the past two years so you're seeing him perform better now against lesser competition. He might have more of a need to resort to "le rare kimarite" meme when he is up against joi and sanyaku level guys.
>>150964248Wait a minute, you can farm free wins just by being lower down the banzuke? Could you farm yusho doing that???
>>150964287Surely not, that'd be absurd
>>150962846>I think it's new for this basho. Zak wants to remind himself that he's fighting for all the people who support him. He's desperately fighting to regain his Ozeki pride.God I wish you would keep your headcannons to yourself.They have been doing this for at least a couple years.
>>150964132I kinda agree. But him doing that type of flashy sumo made him very popular.
>>150964311>One Yokozuna injured>The other one had rope hangoverThis big lipped fucker should've bought a lottery ticket while he was at it.
>you now remember when Ura got knocked out, most likely got a conussion, january 2022 day 2 against Ozeki shodai.>came back and beat Takakeisho the next day fighting from the front
>>150964547
>>150964345dont forget also>Zak was zakking>daieisho was out>Oshoma was complete ass>Kirishima got an extremely high fever on the 2nd week just as maegashitters were about to be put against him to stop their yushofarm.There were really only 2 sanyaku in July. [spoiler]3 if you count Dan at M1[/spoiler]
>>150960968Gay
>>150962870That's not muscle, it's loose skin.
>>150962342>>150961610>>150961278>>150960001irregardlessly of the reasons, the point is that there is a lack of institutional knowledge at the top due to top wrestlers not sticking around to be oyakata.
>>150964139>mfw Aonishiki vs Ura playoff>unknown kimarite vs impossible kimarite
>>150964743It seems like Ura stopped farming kimarite this basho and actually started fighting real sumo instead of going for zoris and leg picks on guys 20cm and 20kg larger than him
>>150964845https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK_8fvQucUoNah, he's still a dummy.
>>150965042
>>150962806>>150962842I hope that he realizes that soon (or that teru beats it into him)
>>150964725>there is a lack of institutional knowledge at the top due to top wrestlers not sticking around to be oyakataSkill in wrestling does not automatically equal skill in coaching. If you look at this list >>150960001, the majority of them failed to produce anyone close to their level. Many of them have never even managed to produce a sekitori.
>>150965476I didn't say wrestling skill, I said institutional knowledge. Institutional knowledge includes scouting.
>>150961168
>>150965488>implying they have that eitherCollecting all the amateur wunderkinds or the biggest Mongolians who all flock to you because of name value doesn't make you good at scouting
Dear evil spirits, Please let something funny happen in the next few days and I'll sell you my soul, good deal
>>150965558No you braindead fucking idiot. I was implying they DON'T have it.
>>150965688Being a good wrestler is irrelevant to your scouting ability, so the top wrestlers leaving the JSA doesn't translate to institutional knowledge being lost.
>>150966107>Being a good wrestler is irrelevant to your scouting abilityWrong. Scouting in sumo isn't just about finding the good wrestlers, it's also about getting them to join your heya. Unless you think it's the less popular wrestlers who don't win much who have all the good connections, being a top wrestler is very important.
Nigganoyama gets a kachi. Kuwae gets the golfclub.
>look inside>another futagoyama rikishi>he losesWhat an awful beya.
Did he not want the Ms60 advantage or something?
>>150970096
there's a new thread btw. op was a fag and didn't backlink it>>150965042>>150965042>>150965042
>>150970411>>150965075
>>150970551You didn't say "new thread"
>>150970599No, but I will call you "faggot." I'm not a fucking leaf.
>>150963272>gaylord
