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>Port Vale
>it's in the middle of the country with no port or body of water nearby
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>Dowman doesn't start
lol
lmao even
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>>150974501
Excited to see Martinelli up top.
>>150974514
It's the not-a-place-name Derby.
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>running saka into the ground against Port Vale

FARTETTTAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>mfw Saka tears the other hamstring just because Sharteta got triggered by handbrake comments in the presser and said fuck it I'll start him
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>>150974501
Hincapie fucking WHEN???????
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>start Saka and sub on Dowman after we're a few goals up
FARTETA, TERRORIST, #ARTETAOUT
>start Dowman but sub on Saka to get him some minutes before the weekend
still FARTETA, TERRORIST, #ARTETAOUT
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>>150974593
>handicapie
>fit
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>>150974593
same question
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>>150974616
>groin injury
the fuck
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>Port Vale's rival is Stoke City
The game Arteta has been waiting for his entire life
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why don't we give MLS a go in midfield sharteta?
or is it too threatining to your retarded merino-rice-zubimendi triolo
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>0-1 off a set piece vs Port Vale
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are Arsenal going to celebrate a draw like they’ve won the league again
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>>150974664
you lot celebrated a qarabag winner against soutmemeton yesterday
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>>150974673
assuming I’m a Liverpool fan is bizzare mate
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>>150974687
yeah sorry, I forgot I filtered all the irish flags
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>>150974664
any actual arsenal fan is embarrassed by that btw, this club is really straying away from what it means to be a silverware winner.
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>>150974664
they also like to celebrate the, "my club is in the top right corner of this chart and your club is in the bottom left corner of this chart" trophy
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Weird projections la
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COYS COYS COYS COYS
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Decent rotation. Fartinsmelli up top is nice. Still miss the days of Wenger practically dropping the u21s into games like this.
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>>150975267
These number choices bother me immensely for some reason.
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fuck robbie williams
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>>150975283
>t. mother took tylenol while pregnant
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>jiggaboo manager
Yup, I’m thinking soul
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Nice looking kit theirs
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Looks like it's actually Merino up top with Martinelli left wing and Eze through the middle.
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>the days of having cedric soares as a starter for those kind of matches are over
yea, thank you lord.
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>immediately settle into a horseshoe around the box
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>>150975374
You should see how the São Paulo supporters love him here in brazil, it's something so touching (they hate his ass)
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just tuned in why was saka getting boos? just bants?
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what a nice teamworked goal
proppa wengerball
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ez
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beauty
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Nasty goal
>>150975387
Completely forgot about that lmao
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2ezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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>>150975384
That is how we have played for 4-5 years lad.

>>150975388
I have no idea. He hasn't been tackled yet at least.
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what a cool ass goal what the fuck

the hale end kids (martinelli is one, shut up) and eze linking up is fucking nice to see, arteta should keep it like that
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Eze scored too fast. Back to the bench next game.
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>>150975387
he's in sao paulo now?
woah, idk how's the current situation in brazil regarding clubs but isn't sao paulo basically the big boy there, should be doing better than that shitter imo.
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>Alright guys, we're 1-0 up against a team 2 divisions below us. You know what to do. Time to park the bus.
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>>150975442
Kinda, São Paulo is in debt and without relevant silverware for a while now, and it's crisis after crisis there. But, to be honest, that's every club not named flamengo or palmeiras when talking about the big ones.

São Paulo keeps making questionable business decisions, like ditching an actually good homegrown fullback to get cedric
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Handball no?
>>150975442
>sao paulo
>big boy
lmao
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>running saka, saliba, eze, martinelli and merino into the ground
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and it's sideways passing fc
SIDEWAYS PASSING FC
we're by FAR the greatest possession based team
the world has ever seen
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>>150975470
>>150975481
didn't they produce alot of talents in the early 2000s era?
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>exert players
>/sp/ seethes
>>150975509

>relaxes players
>/sp/ seethes
>>150975528
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nice goal but need 2-3 more so >we can sub in NON STARTERS FOR FUCKING SUNDAY
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>>150975310
agreed that shirt is lovely
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>>150975528
they're barelly walking
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>>150975528
>we're by FAR the greatest possession based team the world has ever seen
We are in 30th place of most possession if you add all teams from the top 5 leagues.

16th place last season.

So no.
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Just tuned in and the game's already over?!
80 minutes of busparking against the mighty Vale of the Port?!
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>>150975554
look at the bench. there are only starters and dowman
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Our crossing is sooooo bad
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>black manager
>wears an all-black hoodie
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>>150975618
yeah idk what happened but it's been really shit so far this season
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this martinellli sprint down the wing and then intentionally/unintentionally forgetting the ball always make me want to vertically cut my wrists.
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>>150975629
That was Merino tho?
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Are they singning "We got the ball"?
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where are the goooooooooaaaaalllllls?!
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>>150975647
martinelli did it as well, but yea merino is not innocent either.
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>>150975662
yeah its good banta lad
wouldnt expect a swede to understand our level of comedy
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>>150975694
fyi >>150975662 is the tylenol-swede
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>>150975618
Only look too wide and sloppy because the addressee is on the bench...
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>>150975694
I sometimes struggle with banter but that one is great
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>>150975542
Eh. Was always more from other teams. Recently there's like Oscar and Lucas but eh, nothing generational ever.
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>1883-1999 tenure
WHOA
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>>150975739
>>1883
hehe
1983, but still.
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>commentators talking about the amount of trophies arsenal has won in the last 8 years
Yup it's over for him if he doesn't win anything this season
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So, who of the key, first teamers inevitably today?
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hit it you idiots you're playing shitters
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>ben white
>shite
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>mfw >we play the same way vs freaking Port Vale like >we do vs top opponents
come the fuck on ….
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>>150975815
We actually do. This could have been the Man City or Liverpool game. We seem to be in control but can't create anything when 3v3 or 4v4 and all our crosses are wayward.
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>>150975815
this is a big game mate it's the stoke derby
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I see >we're straight back to one goal and inshallah against even Port fucking Vale. That's so cool.
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>saka trying to get injured
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>ONE (1) shot on target
Holy lmao. Coneteta is FINISHED.
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They are just trying to injure our lads.
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Also, classic >Kepa on that corner, what a dork.
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PASS PASS PASS PASS PASS PASS PASS PASS PASS PASS PASS PASS PASS PASS PASS PASS PASS PASS PASS PASS PASS PASS PASS PASS PASS PASS PASS PASS PASS PASS PASS PASS PASS PASS PASS PASS
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Kek, even Arteta is getting frustrated. The fuck are they doing in training?
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>>150975895
As the old footy saying goes:
>if you can't win, you can at least try murdering a few of your opponents, the ref will probably not act before one or two are on the stretchers
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i've seen enough
arteta out
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Shitlel sharteta's passnal
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What's this, Eze, Arsenal? I'm out of the loop.
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>>150975710
>tylenol swede
What have I missed?
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>>150975936
>I am apparently tylenol swede
Imagine how confused I am then. What does that even mean?
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proper shit game this
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>>150975953
you've got autism
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>>150975774
saka hopefully
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>>150975970
Nah mate. My girlfriend has autism and I was with her when she made he autism assessment. There were some things in there that fit me perfectly (for autism) but most things not.
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>>150976037
>admit to abuse and have sexual relation with mentally unwell people
vile
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>>150976065
For some reason USA becomes more like Nazi Germany every single day.
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HERE WE GO LADS
GOALS ARE INBOUND
A WIN IS WHAT WE'LL CELEBRATE
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>>150976091
hey man, AIPAC voted for it,so cool it with the anti semitism
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Equalizer coming soon because arteta wants to invite pressure for no reason
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saka hurt
hahaha
hahahaha
hahahahahaha
for port fucking vale
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HOORAY
SAKA IS INJURED
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lel
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serious question lads

why the FUCK is saka starting against port vale?
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playing like shit against a league one club
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>>150976198
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This is embarrassing bros
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our away support is always top but home support is hot and cold at best.
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what a game
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Any reason Dowman's not playing?
I mean, other than Arteta being the Big Retard.
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>>150976198
Saka starts every single game if he is fit. It must be in his contract.

The good thing about it is that we can guess he wants to become a legend at the club (racking up appearances (and hopefully goals and assists)).
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Bros why is Kepa in our goal?
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If no trophies are won this year, the Kronkikes better sign Glasner or something. Pretty sure Josh already hinted they expect a trophy or he's getting the sack.
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We make so many technical mistakes (and we have been all season). Missed passes, touches, crosses... Our finishing has been good though but we struggle so hard at creating chances to finish.
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>>150976231
U21s play on Friday. They also played yesterday but he wasn't a part of the squad.
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>>150976216
A win's a win, la.
Grinding wins is the sign of champions, bro.
No more weak teams, mate.
A trophy's a trophy, blud.
One nil to the Arsenal, buddy.
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>>150976243
arsenal is a jobs program for basque players
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>>150976248
We can only dream
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>>150976243
it's the tsingtao cup
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>>150976243
It's a domestic cup in the early rounds. Raya will be playing all league and CL matches.

>>150976248
Josh kroenke pushed out the last of his dad's advisors. The club is his to control now.
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>>150976256
>don't play with the U21 because you travel with the 1st team
>don't play today because U21 play in two days
>don't play with U21 on Friday because you're travelling with the 1st team on the weekend
>...
lol
lmao
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>saka walks off
>arteta tomorrow: yeah saka has a 2 month injury sorry all
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>wan nil to the arsenal
mikel graham's done it again
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>>150976256
>>150976289
kek
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Dowman to win a penalty. Book it
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>this Ben SHITE cross
Just cancel this competition holy lmao.
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>>150976301
this

except probably 4-5 months
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pretty sure the port vale manager has sold me ketamine before
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Less than 30 mins for a guy who should've been playing from the start? Yeah, ain't making any apologies to the Big Fraud, simple as.
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>Blanco
lmao what the fuck was that?
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White is completely done
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>>150976345
i've said this way earlier but no body believed me :/
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Port Vale's left back is having a good game

>>150976326
The swedish commentator said that he once sold him a car (Port Vale manager)
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>>150976332
I repeat
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>3 mins since coming on
>0 end product whatsoever
Take him off already!
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these long throw in gimmick we're doing needs to end
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Port Vale seem pretty soulful. They're having a very good game, good for them honestly. This haramball is killing me.
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Arteta is panicking
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>Big Gab
L O L
L M A O
Get this Basque Buffoon out of the club,
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Viktor has found his level
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martinelli doing too much
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>>150976397
yes that's because he suffers from slight mental retardation.
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>>150976397
he's brazilian
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>>150976406
lmao
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Maybe Farteta was right and Clownman should stay with the u21 kids...
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Arteta definitely buying 2 FBs in the summer and moving MLS back to midfield.
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wow this team is dogshit without rice marshalling the retards at the back
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kepa is shit
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Mosquera starting to show the effects of Arteta coaching (lmao).
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more like keka
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>keepers doing shitty passes with a high press

Fucking launch it to midfield. What's the point of stocking up on duel winners then
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>77% possession
>1-0
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>>150976445
it really is crazy how many promising signings start off great and within a few matches get visibly indoctrinated
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>Kepa
This is getting ridiculous.

>>150976450
Wouldn't be so sure about that, my lad.
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>gyök
score you mong
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i'll take an injured havertz over gyokeres at this point
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>>150974487
Another day, another Cockeres disasterclass
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>wankores

How many touches does this fat shitter need to set up a shot?
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>Impotenres
>Miss-a-sitteres
>Jokeres
>Waste-of-moneyres
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>>150976453
Truly do think this is a make or break season for arteta by the locker room. Martinelli almost let slip how fed up of the bullshit he is with artetas negative style of play.

Lose the locker room and it doesn't matter if he has support of the board. Have to be ruthless but I don't know of any foreign manager that is ready to leave their club. Enrique would be perfect but psg ain't letting him leave.
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chokeres chokes another
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>score a billion goals
>sign for sharteta
>stop scoring
how quare
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now can all be in agreement that starting shartinelli is a mistake.
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>playing pulisball vs port vale
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>Tosser
>Rice
I am speechless.
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>>150976497
>Martinelli almost let slip how fed up of the bullshit he is with artetas negative style of play
link?
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>pass to winger
>stands like a mong in front of the defender doing some antony anti-tekkers
>pass back to rice or ödegaard
>pass in the middle to someone else
>pass back to rice or ödegaard
>pass to winger
>stands like a mong in front of the defender doing some antony anti-tekkers
>pass back to rice or ödegaard
>pass in the middle to someone else
>pass back to rice or ödegaard
>pass to winger
>stands like a mong in front of the defender doing some antony anti-tekkers
>pass back to rice or ödegaard
>pass in the middle to someone else
>pass back to rice or ödegaard
>pass to winger
>stands like a mong in front of the defender doing some antony anti-tekkers
>pass back to rice or ödegaard
>pass in the middle to someone else
>pass back to rice or ödegaard
>pass to winger
>stands like a mong in front of the defender doing some antony anti-tekkers
>pass back to rice or ödegaard
>pass in the middle to someone else
>pass back to rice or ödegaard
>pass to winger
>stands like a mong in front of the defender doing some antony anti-tekkers
>pass back to rice or ödegaard
>pass in the middle to someone else
>pass back to rice or ödegaard
>pass to winger
>stands like a mong in front of the defender doing some antony anti-tekkers
>pass back to rice or ödegaard
>pass in the middle to someone else
>pass back to rice or ödegaard
>pass to winger
>stands like a mong in front of the defender doing some antony anti-tekkers
>pass back to rice or ödegaard
>pass in the middle to someone else
>pass back to rice or ödegaard
>pass to winger
>stands like a mong in front of the defender doing some antony anti-tekkers
>pass back to rice or ödegaard
>pass in the middle to someone else
>pass back to rice or ödegaard
>pass to winger
>stands like a mong in front of the defender doing some antony anti-tekkers
>pass back to rice or ödegaard
>pass in the middle to someone else
>pass back to rice or ödegaard
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Ten more minutes of this misery.
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>>150976514
>It's those moments that I work for," Arsenal forward Gabriel Martinelli told Sky Sports after scoring a late equaliser in the 1-1 draw with Man City.

>"We played really well, we were unlucky in certain moments, we had some chances and then it was a great ball from Ebs [Eze] and I just tried to put it in the net.

>"Really happy with the goal but we need to work more, we want to win those games. With the players we have, I know if I make those runs say three times in a game, I will get it at least one."
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its over now
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finally
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you just know arteta chastised the team for actually scoring an inventive goal at the start

>trossard scores as i say that
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>>150974487
Arsenal are the best team in the world. APOLOGISE. NOW.
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good goal that
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Can see why Gyokores was cheaper than all the other strikers going this summer, may as well have kept Biereth if we wanted some big shitter to put himself about a bit.
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trossard off the bench my beloved
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BOSSARD BOSSARD BOSSARD BOSSARD BOSSARD BOSSARD BOSSARD BOSSARD BOSSARD BOSSARD BOSSARD BOSSARD
Super sub does it again.
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Can't keep a good raccoon down.
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I just like to spend my days imagining what Wenger could do with this squad
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So what now, no criticism allowed, innit.
Arteta Knows Best (AKB).
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>>150976578
he would sell half the team and raid the french league for bargains
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>>150976557
Sometimes you just need a hair do in club colours for the publicity shots.
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respect to port vale desu
good crowd
beautiful kit
players are actually trying
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>>150976586
both goals came from anti-arteta plays tho
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>>150976589
no he wouldn't
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>>150976578
look errr...
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>>150976578
mustafi would still be starting, he's only 29
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>>150976586
>Arteta Knows Best
He surely knows more than any of us but "knows best" is just a guess from your side.
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>+4
Ah for fucks sakeeeeeeee!
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>>150976578
With the technique these guys show I doubt Wenger would have any of them in the squad.
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>1.5 billion for 9 shots against port vale
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dowman is desperate for a goal lmao
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im glad its finally over
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Never in doubt, heh.
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I am fundamentally still arteta in as long as >we win
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>>150976601
And that means even more dire terroristball against Newcastle
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looks like Sharteta has unlocked another page in the Stoke playbook
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>80.6%
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>>150976695
>4 on target
Yeah...
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>>150976662
>0 shots on target by the opposition
If you spend those 1.5 billion on defense this is the stat that is important
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>>150976703
38 0-0 draws ain't winning you shite, la.
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>>150976711
read somewhere that if you win all your home matches and draw 0-0 in all your aways you finish 3rd
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you know what
i am not going to watch this game anymore
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>>150976724
same
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>>150976719
Mikel pls.
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what a dreadful fucking game
again
arteter get the fuck out already
>>
shitposting here isn't even fun anymore
Arsenal are not a serious team
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Hoping for Liverpool away so sharteta and Co can get humiliated again. Also >our annual humiliation ritual away at sandcastle united is coming up this weekend
>>
Brighton
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>>150976935
Based.
Having the Prem and Carabao out of the way this early would allow >us to fully commit towards the CL and FAC up.
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2eze

mosquera with another 98% perfect performance
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A shower thought:
What if Sharteta is playing this possession football in the start of the season to pace the team so they don't peak too early?

One of the criticism in the past is that this team has a rough patch sometime near or right after Christmas, falls behind and never recovers.
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>>150977744
Checked
You now remember that time when Arsenal demolished every team they faced, after that trip to Dubai in January
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arsenal football club simply lack a winning mentality
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>>150975815
>>150975833
I was stunned when i see a midfield of Eze, nwaneri and Norgaard create fuck all for 70 minutes
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>mongrino who just joined was captain before saliba
I wish nothing but the worst for sharteta
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Why does Arteta love to sign CBs that he then converts to wingbacks?

>White
>Timber
>Calafiori

are ALL CBs
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Arteta OUUUUUTTTTT
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it looms
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we have to win like 2 trophies this year man
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I'm gonna cope and say Man City, also away to Division 1 opposition, won with a similar scoreline. O-onwards and upwards...
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is it true that arsenal have never legitimately won promotion to the first division?
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not looking forward to Arsenal trying to ruin another Sunday evening.
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>>150977744
>dropping points early is part of the plan
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>>150981608
one must imagine [favourite player here] scores
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>>150976695
>0 offsides
wew
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>>150978912
A tedious and boring 1-1 draw?
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>>150982981
oh god pls no I can’t stand another game like that, the last three games have been tedious to watch. Honestly I’m at a point where I don’t give a fuck about the quality of football as long as >we keep winning but since >we already lost to an awful Liverpool side and drew to Poopinhispants 80 min double boreball there has to be wins only from now till Christmas.
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>>150977669
He looked awful when he moved to the right
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>William Saliba commits future to Arsenal by agreeing new long-term contract. 24yo centre-back entered final 2yrs of previous deal + Real Madrid among suitors. But France int’l wanted #AFC stay & expected to sign in coming days
Ornstein
>>
That's a man with no ambition
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>>150983812
>William Saliba is 24
For some reason I thought he was a bit older.
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>>150983812
Luv me some Willow but he looked like >our third best defender this season, behind Big Gabi and Mosquera.
I hope that all the players that Arteta has run into the ground like Saka, White etc. just need a prolonged run of injury free games to get back to their best but I’m not holding my breath.
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>>150982417
Not dropping points, but winning controlling the game and win 1-0 or 2-0
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>>150983920
moot point since >we already dropped a league losing amount of points and it’s not even October.
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>>150977744
He did that in 23/24.
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livershit won 3-2 at st james because they play to win the game, let's see what we do(we'll play like dogshit for 80 minutes in a "controlled" and "conservative" manner then get a goal scored on us from no where and try to scrabmle a draw in the last 10 minutes like the frauds we are)
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>>150983983
yeah all that Liverpool needed was a red card for Newcastle and a 90+10 minute last second winner, both things >we never get.
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>>150983983
Liverpool-Newcastle is often a crazy fixture.
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If there's one thing I rate about Arteta is that we don't lose our best players anymore. Losing Fabregas and Nasri in the same window fucked this club for the next decade.
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>>150983812
meh. hopefully he play better now
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>>150974514
>Port Vale House: The football club was formed in 1876 after a meeting at a house called Port Vale House.
it is a pub team
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>>150984131
i think i've seen in twitter that WE and port vale are the only 2 clubs in english football not named after a place.
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>>150984056
yeah but >we desperately need to learn when to sell certain players even when they are still in and around their peak to further generate income for more signings.
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>>150983983
The sharteta way
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>>150984178
we will sell to saudi now tim lewis gone
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yes good morning is the Arteta OUT thread
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>>150978506
Its a Pepism
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>>150977744
I was suspecting something similar is happening because of the way they took their corners against port vale. Usually theyre a lot more physical in the box and the posts foghting for positions before a corner. I think the short corners are a decision to reduce the amount of sprints needed
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>>150984144
No wonder Arsenal are so rootless and appeal mostly to African immigrants
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>>150983930
>implying liverslip won't slip
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>>150984301
I'm sorry but the Arteta out thread has been banned due to low activity. This is the Arteta in thread.
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>>150984513
oh they will no doubt but not enough to counterbalance Arsenal’s owns choking. When was the last time >we capitalized on a team above us dropping points ?
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>>150984595
grim
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>>150984056
Yeah because Wenger was a delusional cuck that let players run their contracts down and act shocked when they wanted to leave after he failed to win anything yet again.
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>stuck with Shitliba for 5 years
KWAB
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>190kg using any information regarding Arsenal as an insult on his Irish VPN
getting tiresome, even off form Saliba is better than 90% of the CBs in the league.
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>>150983812
>Starts to play badly right around contract talks
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all those liverpool fans saying saliba will join them to replace konate have gone quiet kek. i still remember when they said the same about saka. they never learn.
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>>150985763
But you see, he misspells his name to include the word shit in it, which legitimises his opinion.
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don't worry lads, we'll buy kenan yildiz from jewventus next summer and we will win bigly with him because buying a player from juve always shoots arsenal into a success(winning the treble, which is what WE will win this season anyway)
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>you now remember stephan lichtsteiner
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>>150986099
doesn't count he's a defender(a shit one at that)
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>>150986077
Only after buying 2 more FBs as white shows his injuries are fatal and MLS is moved to midfield permanently.


On a side note I know if Newcastle was ever gonna sell him, Bruno guimares was high on artetas list. He loves duels too much
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going to shill The Different Knock video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rasanci3OGo
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>>150986209
he passed away unfortunatley, at 21years.
tragic.
wonder how did that injury happen, not sure if there's any footage of it.
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>>150984775
cooked
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>>150986951
Wingate and Finchley have got a brick wall around the pitch, he slipped chasing a ball and basically went in to it head first
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>>150987103
Welp, sound like they need to invest in some padding.
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>>150987103
jesus christ how is that even legal?
it looks so close to the pitch line as well, am surprised something like this didn't happen more frequently with this braindead set up, i mean even amateur football pitches for like 6v6 in a bumfuck place in the 3rd world doesn't have solid brick wall surrounding the pitch THIS close.
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>>150987103
who's the retard in charge of that brick wall?
in hockey, they get concussions from slamming on the boards and the players are wearing helmets
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>>150987157
>>150987175
>>150987206
three nerds trying to remove soul from the game, it's called being careful
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>>150987157
>>150987175
>>150987206
Worst part is this actually happened a few years ago with Alex Fletcher of Bath City when he slammed into a wall at their ground. No lessons were learned whatsoever.

>150987245
You are by far the dullest bastard to have ever visited this board and that is saying something.
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>>150987333
go bubble wrap yourself bitch KWAB
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>>150986209
>Former Arsenal academy star Billy Vigar has died aged 21 after suffering a 'significant brain injury' during a match, plunging the football world into mourning.
I remember the name, way too young to go.
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>>150987103
I seriously don't get how these are still legal
Their chairman evidently had a chimpout over the wall collapsing just a few months ago
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>>150987103
What the fuck. I don't expect something this plainly stupid anywhere, not even in North Korea. How hasn't the UK government revoked these teams' brick wall licenses yet?
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>>150987103
Senseless just senseless I won’t claim to remember him or even think more of him as an Arsenal player but that is just criminal. I mean from that write up posted earlier I thought he slipped going down the tunnel. Which if I’m being cynical could be partially attributed to him being careless but slipping whilst playing and then dying is beyond me. I hope the FA will take care of his loved ones.
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>yet another Sunday fixture
are >we still in Europa League?
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>>150988745
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tired of looking at all the pussies itt
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>>150986209
what a sad way to go, poor kid
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>>150989069
turn on your screen
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>>150989391
bodied him
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>Billy Vigar, a 21-year-old former Arsenal academy striker, died after sustaining a significant brain injury in a match for Chichester City on September 20, 2025. He was put into an induced coma, underwent surgery on September 23, but passed away on September 25.
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starting to think we should've gotten hansi flick tbqh with you amigos, he has won 50 outta 67 matches with an okayish barca side in the middle of a disasterous financial situation.
he also brought trophies with this impressive win record.
imagine what he can do with a board that supports him. :/
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>>150989892
i thought they looked decidedly average outside of pedri to be honest
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>joan garcia

We saved 30m not buying that disaster
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>>150986145
why would he go to an inferior club?
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>Can Arsenal afford to be more adventurous against Newcastle?
I'm glad the MSM agenda is set for this season that Areta is boring motherfucker who should get more out of this squad.
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>>150998598
>Sharteta ever dropping mongrino or moldovagaaed
Lol lmao even
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Contrary to speculation that Ben Winston has been brought in to the Arsenal board for celebrity appeal, sources have told Mail Sport that he will be looking to utilise the power of television & marketing to further elevate the club’s brand.

That includes the potential for shows on the likes of Netflix or Apple TV featuring players & more celebrity crossovers. The club are looking to become more visible globally, particularly in the US where Arsenal have made serious in-roads in recent years. [@IsaanKhan_]
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>when gay niggas outright hit on me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T98omwBXiV0
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>>150999617
i hate this club so fucken much.
and i hate this ben winston faggot even more.
we're doing TV shows for zoomers while being a fucken disappointment in actually achieving football related trophies.
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>>150999617
>>150999712
thank god I’m too old and tired for all the media bullshit. All I do is complain on spee and hurl insults on solitude towards the TV when Arsenal play.
Tried the Arsenal discord too but the place is infested with zoomers.
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>>150999617
Grim.
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>>150999617
arsenal is a massive club and should have a much larger presence in the zeitgeist, i understand where they're coming from here, hope it works
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Of course they're going to do more tv shows. The kenan yildiz money has to come from somewhere.
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>>151000498
>thinking >we will go for a big money signing in January after the summer >we had
bruh
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>>150999748
yea this club is infested with zoomers, and we haven't even won anything.
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>>150999617
>The club are looking
Is this guy Afrikaans?
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>>150987333
we got health and safety out the arse yet have shit like this still
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>>150999617
>Ben Winston has been brought in to the Arsenal board for celebrity appeal
that'll put butts in seats
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>>150999617
If its good i will love it, if its bad i will ignore it.
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they should make an Arsenal reality show about me and Leah falling in love and getting married and giving her a career ending pregnancy
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>>151000909
good post
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>>151001185
thank you Allahbro I'm glad you appreciate it
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>>151001395
>>151000909
sorry anon but Leah is already betrothed to me (so I can get season tickets for the man’s team).
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>>151001525
My Leah would never marry someone so ArtetaOUT
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>>151001667
she would because she knows what’s best for the club, just like me.
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>>151001779
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arteta released billy
there's blood in his hands
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>>150998598
I'm still not 100% sold on Calafiori. Could Hincapie or Mosquera play that position?
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>>151003097
Mosquera no, emergency RB but nothing else and Hincapie of course but who knows when he will be fit again.
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>>150986209
>>150986951
>>150987103
Get in, great result, one gooner down
COYS
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>>151003330
careful with the edges bro, don’t want to hurt yourself
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>>150977744
Looks like post-factum copium.
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>>150984513
>huffing last year's cope smoke
Pls don't.
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>>150987103
Think they could honour the feller naming it after him?
>Billy Vigar's Brick Stand
Maybe a mural too.
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Four in a row?
Four in a row.

>>150998598
>Jokeres - Haven'tz
Tired of playing with 10 men? How about playing with 9?!

>>150999617
Less bullshit distractions and more focusing on playing and winning games for crying out loud!
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you know you could've replied to all those in a single post?
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i hate to see a fellow /arse/ resident talking to himself in this fine late evening so am just gonna jump in to say we're winning the premier league for the 25/26 season which will kickstart a new era of arsenal dominance over the footballing universe.
all of this is was revealed to me in a dream
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>>151004111
trips confirm
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Saliba will go to Madrid, the said..
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>>151004137
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>>151004298
this
massive news desu
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Have any of you listened to sharteta's recent press conferences? The guy is living in a dream world, he's more delusional than the retards that back him
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>>151005402
nothing new, unfortunately, but all managers at top clubs are suffering from the same problem.
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>>151005657
Except the other mangers have relevant trophies to show for while sharteta doesn't
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>>151010278
>Saying it was the winds fault for losing is less delusional if you have won the PL compared to if you haven't.
I don't know about this one. I'd say they both sound pretty bad
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>>151004111
I am NOT putting my hopes up.

>>151005402
>The guy is living in a dream world
Always has been.

>>151004072
Gigalong posts are even more obnoxious than chainposting, tho.
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>manure
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>>150999712
No lessons learned from j lingz
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>>151003097
Whats not to be sold? Hes been player of the month, reads the game, features for every single goal in some way.
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ive seen enough
arteta out
glasner in
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I shan’t be getting my hopes up.
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>>151020885
if we win the league can we all have boer gf
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>>151020951
If you are Mr Beast I think you may stand a chance.
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Only us and Burnley not to have scored against Liverpool this season. Reminder we also only managed one shot on target in that game as well.
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>>151021187
he must be held accountable for his actions.
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Nketiah got fat
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>world champion
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Eddie :]
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Based Nketia
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Thank you based eddie
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>the pool of liver
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Bald Fraud moaning about extra time and VAR when they've been relying on that for every game

Loser
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Thank you based nshittiah
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That could very well be Liverpool's only loss of the season.
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>only palace left
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Eddie giving life to our title hopes
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>>151022789
they've been shit getting bailed out by VAR

they'll drop a lot of points
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Based agent Nketiah.
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EDDIE EDDIE EDDIE!!!!! EDDIE EDDIE EDDIE!!!!!


KEK i remember chanting that like mad at my only ever away game for arsenal. beat west ham 2-0
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>>151022843
Palace do seem to be a bogey team for Liverpool though.
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Imagine Arsenal winning tomorrow to capitalise on this loss lmao.
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>>151022909
because they're one of the few teams in the league good enough to overcome refball
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>>151022954
imagine them doing the most Arsenal thing and losing
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>>151022909
https://youtu.be/kLu_MWmhCzk?si=1jj-BqvTCe2YFmWF
I still remember this classic.
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did you guys know anybody from liverpool growing up? what were they like?
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Kek based Nketiah. At least Liverpool can't go invincible now.
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>>151023144
Not as easy to do as many haters would say it is.
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>>151022954
1000% guaranteed that >we lose tomorrow now.
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>>151023144
oh yeah that schizo was talking about going Invincibles, what a moron
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>>151022954
i bet we lose 3-0 now
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>>151023241
Its a win for >us, stfu
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>>151003960
apologise.
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>>151023277
yeah, nah, shitty 0-0 incoming anon
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>>151023014
Liverpool have won 2 league titles and the Champions league since then. How many of those have Arsenal managed since?
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>united
>liverpool
>chelsea
All lost, you know what this means...
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literally just win tomorrow, we'll snow ball off that and go top da league.
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>>151023486
A good old Arsenal boring draw.
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I believe. Newcastle is not the same.
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Welbeck scoring twice.
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If Arteta plays like a coward tomorrow then he has learned nothing from last year. It is big boy time. You are only given so many chances and can’t pussyfoot now. Win 4-3 if needed but just win.
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>>151023985
If. IF!

>>151023377
Let's see Mikel Arteta's.
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Newcastle have become a bit of a bogey team for >us in recent seasons. They always play well. Granted, Isak was their main threat in all those games but still I feel like tomorrow is a huge game but also a must win. Can't set up and play out for a draw.
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>>151024627
dodgy ref decisions are usually the culprit

never been outplayed by poocastle
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>>151023144
It's September anon what are you even saying. They weren't even remotely close. I think City once lost their only game of the season in April.
Anyways Palace are the only unbeaten team left, could be a very early Invincibles day this season.
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>>151024694
Always a relief to get it out of the way especially since it's Liverpool.
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Flopško scored today, btw. Yoke better deliver, or else.
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Arteta WILL once again start merino with rice and zubi and wonder why we create no chances while all the pressure eventually breaks on our defense

ARTETAOUT
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>>151023144
Poor fucker really got his hopes up after three games. I'd feel bad if I didn't know how creepily obsessed that freak is.

>>151024938
Goalkeres already scored like 3 times. Sesko was edging that 007 title.
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>>151025308
>Arteta WILL once again start merino with rice and zubi
Gibraltargaard trained this week so he'll be back in the starting xi.
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>>151024658
delusional retard
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>you are now imagining Glasner in charge playing attacking football
>you now remember arse has the Lego block in charge
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>>151025371
That was then. Can he do it now, when it matters?
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>>151026110
Doesn't mean he can't start him and the other three at the same time (Memerino up front).
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>Doesn't mean he can't start him and the other three at the same time (Memerino up front).
>Memerino up front
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>>151027620
Im tired Bulgaria
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>>151027620
They won't be. They have already decided and will change their picture of reality so it fits their decision.

>>151026872
>Imagine Glasner playing attacking football
That is definitely not what Oliver Glasner does.
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>wet spam sacked potter for nuno espirito santos in the sky (in the sky)
free win next week gone?
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>all the sky 6 losing minus city

So arsenal definitely losing in a frustrating match tomorrow then
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>>151029202
Ve Vin inshallah, gotta believe
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Why the f does Merino, Madueke, Martinelli never pass the ball to Gyökeres? Ive seen one good pass from Dowman (Port Vale) one good pass from Eze (Nottingham) and one good pass from Calafiori (Leeds).

Thats like 3 good passes in 5 PL, 1 CL and 1 Carabobobobo matches.

Arsenal players play Backpasser Simulator for 90 % of the game but when they go on the offense and actually try something they ignore Gyökeres and just zerg to the short line and generate a corner or goal kick.
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>>151031122
BEcause Arteta
:(
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>>151031164
>>151031122
even sharteta acknowledged in the last presser that gyökeres is actually in the right position and making the right moves, but got no service.
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>>151031164
>>151031612
I know the system is the most obvious reason but to me it looks as if Martinelli and Trossard both dislike Gyökeres, just judging by how they ignore him when attacking and how they ignore him during the times when they themselves have scored and are celebrating.

Im probably just overanalyzing though (I hope).
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>>151031779
desu I haven't noticed that, what I have noticed though is that Shartinelli can be fucking selfish and his decision making can be quite subpar
similar thing with Drossard, he often just looks for a chance to cut inside and shoot or just puts random crosses whenever he can't shoot
I'm no analyst or whatever but I believe the thing to blame the most is - the system, duh and how the lads refuse to look for through balls and perhaps more direct and risky passes, for whatever reason (gotta be Sharteta) all they want to do is keep possession, cross to nobody or play for corners, which is obviously fucking dreadful and just doesn't fucking work
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most obvious dropping point
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so what are you losers going to be blaming today?
wont be your dirty scum players or your cowardly football will it?
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Can't see any team forcing raya to make that many crazy saves, crystal Palace really shouldve won by at least 3 goals had allisson not been as sharp as he was
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>nshitiah gave us a lifeline but this mentally weak team won't capitalize
I'm tired boss
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>>151032655
>>151040299
Kek, right? I genuinely don't think >we capitalised on Livershit dropping points even once last season. Like, truly. Maybe it happened once but I sure as fuck don't remember it. And obviously the points dropped after they already mathematically won doesn't matter.
And it's Newcastle away so you just know Arteta will set the team up for a 0-0 like his whole fucking bloodline depends on it.
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>>151034042
Doesn't Raya have at least a couple of Man of the Match awards? I know they wouldn't have been all crazy saves but he does pull them out of the bag consistently tbf
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I see not being able to score and kill off games has started to infect the women's team too.
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Cannot fucking WAIT to see that utterly joyless Rice Zubimendi Merino midfield yet again.
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anything but start merino please
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what I want to see today
Rice Zubi Eze midfield
Martinelli Gyokeres Saka attack

what I will see
the creative void that is Rice Zubi Merino and a rusty Saka creating nothing
cherry on top would be Trossard starting but even Arteta ain’t that crazy.
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>>151022567
>>151022616
>>151022646
Quite a well taken goal. Wouldn't mind a finish like this today for Arsenal.
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>>151045572
Rice Zubi Eze or Rice Zubi Merino is basically the same midfield so far.

I don't get why people expect Eze to be a creative mastermind. He is good at doing the unexpected, finishing and be in the right place at the right time. Not making silky through passes or controlling the tempo.

Creativity is the same with those two versions.

We need Odegaard back. Simple as that.
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I want to see the Eze - Zubi - Odegaard midfield. But maybe not against Newcastle as we need another more defensive minded midfielder against Tonali, Joelinton and Bruno.
Rice - Zubi - Merino is an excellent choice for this game as Newcastle has their best players in midfield. Gyökeres should be able to get some chances against that slow defence (if someone is able enough to make the pass that is).
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I believe >we'll trounce them 3-0
Goals by Eze, Gyökeres and Merini
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lol
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WE.WIN.TONIGHT.
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>>151046657
Not if sharteta has anything to say about it
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No Shitrino thank god
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>>151047946
thank god but Trossard starting ….
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>>151047946
>mosq
>eze
basado
>drossard
hmmm
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>>151047946
>trossard starting
it never works. why does he insist on it? is it to have a fresh shartinelli off the bench?
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spent the afternoon with friends at a lovely Thai place, aleeady quite a few Changs deep, Arteta better not ruin the evening.
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>trossard start do nothing, martinelli score
>martineeli start do nothing, trossard score
>repeat
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>>151048391
i mean it's a working strategy so can't complain about it
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>>151047946
Almost correct, much more reasonable lineup
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Martinelli should start until we get a winger that is as fast in his position
We literally have no pace up top
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>friend just texted me
>he got banned from the Rangers forum for making puns
>thing is, he was replying to a pun
Hope they lose again now just for that
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>>151048834
Lets hope that janny was paid at least
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>>151048878
this is why I stick to 4chan
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>>151048071
>>151048043
>>151048150
What's the alternatiev though? We all know Martinelli starting is basically like playing with 10 men when attacking. 11 men when defending. Trossard may be a super sub but he's also just better than Martinelli in general when it comes to attacking. I imagine the idea is to start him and maybe get a goal lead and then put Martinelli in and hold on to it rather than start Martinelli, get no goals, get Trossard in, get a goal, but then concede, possibly from a free kick that Trossard gave away cause he's got a habit of that.
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>starting an actual good lineup
Okay who's going down in the first 5 minutes?
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>>151048834
internet moderation in any kind of form was a huge mistake especially if any generation after 96 are doing it.
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>>151049012
Problems is trossard has no legs upfront. He looks good as a sub because he goes against tired legs
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excited to watch people make excuses for gyok again today
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>>151049065
Agreed but I think he's also got the ability to get past defenders just by using skill. In an ideal world, >we would be able to keep both Martinelli and Trosssard on the bench for maximum super sub impact but without having to field Rice, Merino, and Zubi at the same time. Maybe when Ødegaard gets back to being fully fit.
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game playlist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQJwRH-hZZU&list=PL-iPtbDIsIBpzdSCtJa0nv8NCbMlRtCMT
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>>151049175
alhamdulillah gooners
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>have a bein subscription on the big tv
>decide to watch it on PC shifting between the pirated discord which has no delay but sometimes lags and the 3-4 websites that have 1min ish delay but not as laggy
>all of this so i can shitpost on /spee/ simultaneously
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>no trio of death in midfield
Slightly optimistic
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must win game today, don’t care how but now every contender dropped points (fuck City) so Arsenal better fucking WIN
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Your moods before the inevitable, /arse/?
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>>151049452
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56 seconds for the first blatant hack on Saka.
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back from church lads
we have the power of Our Lord
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>Joeliton
He must have nudes of all the referees.
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>Newcastle only scored 3, the least in all the Prem
lol
lmao
Gonna be a real knee-slapper, innit.
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drossard
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>>151049538
what do you think about kingdom of heaven?
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>>151049538
infidel
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>Pope save
>Saka getting slaughtered again
>3 minutes into the game
sigh
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>Jokeres with a shot on target in under 2 minutes
Lads...
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decent
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close
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based Eze
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Eze is getting a lashing for daring to take a shot there
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good play so far, slightly less haramball
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timber looking sharp today
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>Inpost ads
WHAT THE FUUUUUCK
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>baka
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kino so far
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>>151049636
>>151049671
yeah I'm actually surprised how quick and direct arse is playing so far
I'm liking this start a lot desu

>>151049642
lol
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Reminder that Jarred Gillett is a Liverpool fan
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I’m gettinh really fucking tired of sweden losing his physical duels
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Line ref just taking the day off I guess
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>Drossard
ffs
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Rayas deliveries has not been it today
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>>151049557
directors cut fucking rules
>>151049558
seek Christ pinhead
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ERA
R
A
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Why we wearing the black armbands again?
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roja
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ERA

immediately rewarded when we play directly
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COME ON GOALKERES
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Right that should be a red or the refs are fucking bent
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ERA
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LETSGOOOO
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didn't lehman get sent off for that in the final against barca
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Wtf that was a clear pen
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same old geordies, always seething
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Lol, imagine if that was Salah. That'd be a fucking penalty and a red card.
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lmao
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>>151049832
>>151049812
No more double penalty. No red if pen is given

But fucking VAR. That was a clear pen, Liverpool and Man City get these decisions all day long
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WHY DOES IT fUCKING MATTER IT THE KEEPER TOUCHED THE BALL HE STILL FOULED HIM
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>no era
Fucking crooked
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we literally officiated in hardest mode

FUCKOFF
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lmao if that was pool the gk would be off
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SAME OLD ARSENAL ALWAYS CHEAAAAAATING
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rigged fucking league
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That's a classic. A fucking classic.
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its not even a corner
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That is basically the same penalty as we got against us against Brighton. Saliba was touching that ball as well but everyone told us that touch doesn't matter. Why is it always against Newcastle these things happen.
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>GyokERAs
Is this melon Gillette REALLY needing the fucking video for this crap (LMAO)?
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DIE JARRED GILLETT DIE JARRED GILLETT DIE JARRED GILLETT DIE JARRED GILLETT DIE JARRED GILLETT DIE JARRED GILLETT
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Honestly, just fucking give the title to Liverpool now and refuse to play the rest of the league games.
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>commentators admitting that VAR trying to hint to not give the pen, despite the ref wanting to give it
Kek you can’t make this shit up
Genuinely why does pgmol hate us so much bros?
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good tackle
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>yearly ABA refereeing at Newcastle
tiresome.
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Everything must be perfectly according to the book when it comes to Arsenal but Liverpool get goals likes yesterday with a clear handball and PGMOL will come up with every excuse possible for them.
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Look forward to our latest apology from Howard Webb tomorrow.
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No no, if it ain't a pen then SURELY a yellow for diving, innit.
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guaranteed that there’s a pen awarded the other way later

>>151049978
because Wenger slept with Webb’s wife
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>>151049978
And the commentators outright admitting it is the funniest part. They said they can hear what the refs are saying and that VAR was REALLY guiding the referee to agree with VAR. That's not fucking clear or obvious is it?
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Just don't dive? Couldve just went round and scored
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>>151049548
>a real knee-slapper
Called it, even if that's not exactly what I had in mind.
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>>151050008
No because just because there is contact doesn't mean it's a foul. That's not how it works.
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Not only assna but other teams too should start pulling out from those games
not even here in shitzil we have this kind of refs lmao and we do try
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>>151050026
VAR is only letting the ref watch the screen if they have found a clear and obvious error. So I don't see anything strange about it.
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Outside the box that's an obvious foul and nobody would question it. The double standards are tiring.
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>>151050040
he didn't dive, he got caught and made the right decision to go down, pope just caught the ball first
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VAR official is a Liverpool fan btw
unironically
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>>151050073
Except it isn't clear and obvious if the VAR has to constantly repeat themselves as to why it's not a penalty and couldn't get the on field referee come to that conclusion by himself after he watched the replay. That's exactly what the commentators said they heard.
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>>151050082
He absolutely dove. He makes the decision to dive before he even got to the ball. Nunez used to do it a lot too. You realise that you're getting there first and you commit to just knocking the ball out of the way and ensuring contact. He got punished for it here because Pope got the touch on the ball.
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>>151050082
Which is fine. I am okay with it not being a penalty. But I am not okay with the penalty we got against us against Brighton when Saliba got the ball and then clash of heads.
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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How the fuck does trossard not score?? Should be 3-0 up easily.
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>trollpost
lol
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>>151050106
he got hit and went down
first time watching football or?
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>drossard
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>>151050104
VAR thought it was a clear and obvious error and convinced the referee that it was by showing video and describing. That is simply how the process is working. The referee doesn't go out to watch it again to make another decision.
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>Darren England (born 23 December 1985) is a Premier League football referee, who was promoted in August 2020. In December 2021, the PGMOL announced that England had been added to the 2022 FIFA List of International Match Officials. He's a boyhood fan of Liverpool Football Club.
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>ynr 22/23 trossard
Feelsbadman
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>>151050154
>convinced the referee
Then it's not clear or obvious. Victor, it's not that difficult to understand. If it's CLEAR or OBVIOUS then you don't need to be told WHY multiple times.
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Can't even use a towel
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>>151050194
>>151050194
>>151050194
new
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what the fuck is that save from pope?
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who you guys got on getting mauled this match? I got Eze’s ankle by Joelinton around 50th minute
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>>151050190
>Multiple times
He only went out once.

Although I am watching it with Swedish commentators so I don't know what was said. Maybe the onfield ref was arguing against their decision, then I agree with you it is not clear and obvious.
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>>151050224
First time watching Pope? He's very good at shot stopping.
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>>151050259
For fuck's sake lad, listen to me. The commentators can hear what the VAR and referees are all saying. They said that VAR had to explain the issue multiple times, repeatedly I think is the word they used, to the on field referee and that the on field referee couldn't see why it wasn't a foul.
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>>151050259
>>151050291
And the commentators also said the VAR was "guiding" the on field referee to a decision. If that's not fucking questionable then I don't know what is. Guiding someone to a conclusion is very much different than just presenting evidence and letting the referee come to his own conclusion. So they've had to tell the referee multiple times AND coax him into coming to the """""right""""" decision.
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>>151050142
No he didn't. You can be biased without steering into delusional.
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>>151050370
there was contact, and he went down

it's not a dive, retard, it's just also not a foul



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