>>151141050
When he started going out of his way to tell everyone that he is the goat

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this bitch-ass move
just go if you're gonna go
fuckin drama queen

>>151141184
Lmao
Why did he do this though did nobody tell him it came off uber narcissistic

Jordan went 0-6 against Larry Bird in the playoffs. Bird is the GOAT

>>151141320
because he's surrounded with yes men. simple as. sometimes your boys need to call you out on your bullshit, but none of them wanted to disrupt the gravy train kek. completely ruined his legacy forever

None of the historical top 10 had a series as bad as LeBron had in the 2011 finals. Even 2004 Kobe against the Pistons was better than that shitshow.

>>151141645
Plus Kobe had already won three before then. A slip up is acceptable if you’ve already proven yourself a winner before.

>>151141050
he was never competing for GOAT, it was always just a (((narrative)))

>>151141488
White-chads keep winning (nice digits btw)

>>151141488
>those digits
White excellence

>>151141645
None of them had a series as good as the 2018 Finals either

>>151141050
I stopped taking him seriously once I noticed how hellbent he is on that GOAT status. He's been chasing superteams, acting like a diva, got extreme ref bonus calls. I don't know when, but it eventually started looking like a forced narrative mostly LeBron himself actually believes in
The final tipping point for me was the literal Mickey Mouse pandemic championship

>>151141050
Post COVID ring fall off.

>>151141050
he lost his ability to compete for being the greatest when he left cleveland for the first time

>>151141050
He's the GOAT. Move on from Jordan already

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>finishes 17 games under .500 on a team full of future HoFs
>bitches to the refs to have fans ejected for (allegedly, never showing proof) that they were calling him names, one of them being a fucking woman
>quitting on his team down 30 in an NBA playoff game with more then 5 minutes left in the game, after saying "these shoulders were meant for carrying"
>throwing a tantrum live on the air when he lost to boston in a midseason game
>ducking the warriors because he caught vaginal cramps
>quitting an NBA finals game because of an air conditioner
>stopping an NBA game to celebrate being in the league so long that he could beat kareem's point record, then losing that game
>activating playoff mode and going 4-15
>never even kissing the finals after coming west outside of a bubble season where he stopped games to protest BLM

>>151141050
For anyone who watched both of them play, Lebron never got close to achieving goat status.

>>151141050

When he made that horrible sequel to "Space Jam"

>>151144620
They didn’t make Lola sexy >:(

>>151142132
Most "greatest of all time" guys in most sports are ultra-autistic robot pod people. LeBron even when he is being a jerk is very normal and relatable

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>>151141488
>Birdposting
>1488
fucking hell

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>>151141050
>When he lost to dirk?
Yes.

>>151141645
Kobe literally quit on his team in the WCF. That's far worse than just playing poorly.

>>151141663
Bron clears Kobe and it's not even a contest. I hope you don't sincerely think that Kobe has any argument over him.

>>151141050
If someone considers Jordan the GOAT then they're already too far gone and are incapable of acknowledging someone as better

>>151146207
zamn

>>151141488
Then why did Bird only get 2 fmvps in 6 runs? Bro got carried hard.

>>151141488
THE WHITE MAN MARCHES ON!!!

he's #9 at best on any real hooper's list and it's completely because of the two piece in Miami fueled by the greatest shot in NBA history that he didn't even make. his leaveland and fakers rings have huge asterisks next to them.

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when klutch sports ran out of ideas to make him look good

>>151141050
When he left Cleveland. Jordan never went to another team where he knew he had a better chance of winning. And then the whole not 1, not 2, not 3 m, not 4 thing was so cringe and douchey.

>>151148998
This "The Decision" film was so insane and embarrassing that it's hard to believe. It just makes him look completely soulless. I kind of get being an upcoming superstar, being unhappy with your rather small market team, and believing "I can do better than that, I should do better than that" - but I can't understand turning every step along the way into a show for the camera and then doing it again and again. He hopped from team to team to chase that status as if it wasn't a career but a video game. Back to Cleveland to "complete the story" and save face for his legacy, and then to the Lakers to stand in that long line of glory and attention. And all that road is paved with shitty calls and things like the quarantine tournament that are impossible to take seriously
Incredible talent, longevity, ambition. It's all fine. But he somehow still ended up making it look a bit pathetic, as undeniable as his greatness is. It's hard to consider someone like that the best ever

>>151141050

He's further down than 2. Don't believe the marketing

>>151141184
>use your fame to get jew overlord sponsors to donate obscene amounts of money to needy kids for your televised utterance of a single sentence
>sports legacy destroyed

>>151149127
/thread

>>151141050
When everyone found out he was a racist chud.

>>151141050
losing to jj barea

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>>151142094
>Swept
>Get teabagged by Durant
>BUH MuH STATZ

Box score watchers are literally retarded

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>>151146249
LeBron isn't as good of basketball player. He's the best combination of size and athleticism in league history and never got hurt. That's it.

>>151147086
Media bias

>>151141488
Digits

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In terms of raw numbers, LeBron just doesn't have the MVPs, doesn't have the Championships, and doesn't have the Finals MVPs.

Like, everybody made a big deal of him passing Kareem for all-time points scored. But Kareem has six rings and six MVPs, to go along with his two Finals MVPs. His stats are great but he was also a winner, a way better winner than LeBron ever was. He even has his solo ring with Milwaukee for anyone who said he couldn't win without the Lakers.

Everybody ahead of LeBron on the GOAT list has more rings than him. That's all there is to it. Jordan does, Kareem does, Duncan does, Magic does. Championships matter more for individual players in the NBA than in most other leagues since an individual elilte player can alter the nature of a team so much more than in other sports. And LeBron doesn't have enough.

>>151150863
LeBron also has a losing Finals record against every single other all time great he's played against. You could make an argument he's not even the best player of his generation, especially if Curry manages to get another ring.

>>151141488
witnessed

>>151150863
well said but Im not sure why you posted a pic of an airline pilot

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>>151150899
You wanna make LeBron stans REALLY mad? Tell them that LeBron has no "era," and that he's merely been a player that straddled the line from the Duncan/Kobe Era to the Curry Era.

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Be a generational talent at a time where the opposition is miles away.
Bitch and moan until things go your way.
New talent comes along.
Bitch and moan when you lose.
Also, the Space Jam flop should be enough to cement his status as
>LeBitch

>>151162447
No one tries to emulate LeBron either, there's nothing unique about his game that sets him apart from anyone else. He just does what he does because he's the most physically gifted player in league history. Iverson turned guards into iso scorers, Kobe and Jordan set the standard for how wings should play, Curry turned the league into pace and space twinkball memechuck. LeBron has changed nothing because you can't copy being 6'9 250 with the speed and jumping ability he has.

even if they played in the same era, jordan would still clown this soft faggot
lebitch only thrived because the game is far less physical
imagine him going against the pacers teams that jordan went against

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It's not so much him
It's the NBA getting so fucking soft over time. Actually defending is illegal, basically.

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when he got pregnant

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>>151141488

>>151149520
>LeBron isn't as good of basketball player
Let's see:
>better passer
>better scorer
>better FG% from 2 and 3
>better defender at his peak
>better leader
>never quit on his team in a crucial playoff game
>never had an all time great coach with a system offense like Kobe had for all of his rings
Also, you're right about his size and athleticism, those were absolutely advantages too. I guess Kobe was better at chucking contested brick, I'll give him that.

>>151164488
BASED

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>>151167588
>>better defender at his peak

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>>151167588
>>never quit on his team in a crucial playoff game
once again the lebron nutgobbler doesnt even watch games

N

>>151167588
>better leader
>never quit on his team in a crucial playoff

Lmao

https://youtu.be/j20P7tz0tRI

>>151167588
>>never had an all time great coach with a system offense like Kobe had for all of his rings
Because LeBron demands the ball in his hands the whole game and gets all of his coaches fired when LeBronball doesn't work. LeBron being a team player is the biggest midwit box score watcher take in all of basketball. He racks assists up by being the only player on his team allowed to handle the ball and relegates everyone else to catch and shoot roleplayers. There's a reason why Chris Bosh and Kevin Love regressed under Lebron while Shaq turned from a ball hog playoff choker into the best peak in basketball history and Pau went from a fringe all-star player to the second best big man of his generation.

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>>151162784
when you need a stunt double to do basketball in a mostly animated movie

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>>151170656
B-but, he never needed a body double for the fun stuff though

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can your GOAT flex after a flop?

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>>151171239
HOLY SHIT, the debate is OVER

>>151141050
when lakers fans started to turn on him, that was the only non-bronsexual fanbase he had left to argue his GOAT case and now most of them would riot if he got a statue in LA for a bubble ring.

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>>151167588
>>better scorer
If you watch Kobe from 2005 to 2010. Watch his 81 point game, his 62 in three quarters game, his 50 point streak, his later playoff series in the Western Conference and not come to the conclusion that he's the greatest scorer in basketball history than you're not a ball knower. Flat-out. No player could take and make the shots he made at the rate he made them and no one could outplay great defense as well as he could.

>>151141050
>dominated by the Spurs
>kek'd by the Mavs
>dominated by the Warriors
>kek'd by the Nuggets

He has such a frustrating career. He was great I won't take that from him but it just feels like he never truly achieved what he really could have.

Meanwhile Jordan squeezed an insane career out.

Also his cult like fans are a bunch of annoying pricks.

>>151171472
>No player could take and make the shots he made at the rate he made them
curry, durant, ray allen, Peja stojaković, steve kerr(look up his 3p%)

>>151141050
>#2
Oh sweet child

>>151171472
Im taking Jordan but kobe would be my second choice for sure

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>>151171622
>Muh effishansee
>Muh troo shootan

I don't give a fuck

>>151143565
maybe you just got more excited watching Jordan because you were younger then

>>151167588
LeBron folding on series and on his team is the reason hes disqualified as a GOAT candidate are you new?

>>151141050
I'm afraid so. LeBooty then tried to reset the narrative by collecting rings for his hometown but got his entire playstyle BTFO by a lightskin manlet

>>151171684
>I dont care about accuracy or how well they handle the ball, and the fact that kobe was ballchucking his way out of a career average, but noone can compete with kobe!

>>151162837

Same could be said about shaq

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>>151171841
Shaq had a textbook post skill set that any basketball player at any age can learn from. No shit they can't emulate being a 7'2 310lbs freak of nature, but they can emulate his footwork, his floor positioning and off-ball work, how he handles double teams and traffic. If he was just average size for an NBA center, he'd still be as good as guys like David Robinson and Moses Malone.

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>>151162837
Correct and it’s because Lebron had no exceptional skill that transcended his era and changed the league. At his best, Lebron is just a really, really good basketball player who is great at nothing and doesn’t have the hyper competitive mindset of a Jordan that Kobe tried to emulate or the ultimate teammate mindset of a Duncan.

>>151171821
>Muh numbers

Zoomers are so soulless

>>151171841
Everyone tried to be the next Shaq. Eddy Curry was supposed to be the next Shaq. Dwight Howard was supposed to be the next Shaq. Paulo Banchero is a poor man’s Lebron — a guy who is pretty good at everything and great at nothing.

>>151141050
He's just a bitch and not worthy of respect.

>>151141488
Holy digits.

>>151172305
>proof of talent BAD
>ESPN highlight reels and ref coddling? GOAT

>>151141488
Digits of BASED Truth

when he couldn't back down a 5'10'' puertorican

>>151141050
When he started declaring himself the goat and started having all his cronies do the same.

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>>151141050
he has goat talent but not the intangibles. It's the weirdest thing to witness. He got the most out of his physical ability but he's so obviously lacking something mentally that even with all the numbers he falls short

>>151176893
Wilt Chamberlain 2.0

>>151141050
he never competed
not even top 5
ahead of him are (no order expcet 1st)
jordan
kobe
duncan
bird
magic
wilt
russel

>>151141050
When Steph won 4 rings on his watch. Curry > Lebron.

>>151141050
When he left Leaveland the first time.

>>151141488
>>151164488
HEIL

>>151141488
Simple as.

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>Heh, you see my advanced box score tells me LeBron is the better scorer because he doesn't have the ability or mindset to take and make tough shots over defense
>If he was able to shoot MORE he'd score more than Kobe
>No don't ask me why he can't shoot more

>>151175159
>Numbers matter k?
>Noooooo it doesn't matter he lost so many times in the finals

I'll never understand obsessing over one player to the point you start defending them for free

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Unironically the Luka trade. LeBron needs another championship as a true #1 alpha, undisputed franchise player and face of the team to pass MJ and that's no longer possible with the Lakers or really any other contemporary title contender. Bronsexuals can't even fantasize about winning a 5th ring and FMVP in 2026 so they've already pivoted to revising history to bolster his GOAT resume.

>>151176893
He's just a bitch. Never had to struggle either so he never developed an edge

>>151181571
That always pisses me off when he acts like he's down with da struggle when he's the literal definition of privilege who had his ass crowned as the best basketball player on the planet when he was only 17.

>>151141050
Him Kareem and Jordan are above the pile and difficult to compare to each other

>>151150899
Lmao

>>151162447
He only had that 4 year stretch where he was the best player in the league. From like 2012 to 2016 after Duncan got old and Kobe finally broke down from all the injuries and before Curry and Durant really emerged.

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>>151179341
>Heh, no this guy is not as good at basketball because he doesn't use his unique combo of size and athleticism to bulldoze his way to the rim and take open rhythm shots because teams sag off of him.

>>151141488
>>151164488
SIEG HEIL

>>151167588
>meme stats
yawn

>>151171622
None of the names you mentioned came even close besides KD. Still, Jordan and TMAC were much better answers

>>151183911
shaq was literally THE bulldoze his way to the rim teamate

In terms of longevity?
Lebron is the goat.
Also he won the nba with 3 different teams.
Jordan was a Pippen baby.
And Kobe only has 2 MVP's

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>>151184518
Shaq and LeBron have about the same level of skillset, but Shaq might have better footwork and can actually play within the confines of an real offensive system. Shaq has actually became underrated because zoomers who just watched him on Inside The NBA just think he was >LE BIG DUNKAN MAN

>>151171472
>Dude look at him hog the ball and throw up all of these bricks if you don't rate him you don't heckin know ball
Kobefags need new material

>>151172378
Turn your monitor on

>>151176893
Yeah, I'm sure 10 trips to the finals with 4 rings means he's lacking intangibles lmao. Are LeBron haters really this delusional. He's had one of the greatest careers of all time.

>>151185383
>walks the dogshit east
>comes west and never even kisses the finals outside of the mickey mouse tournament, suns and nuggs make him their bitch

>>151182407
LeBron was the best player from 2007 (honestly you can probably go even earlier) until around 2017 or 2018. You cannot actually be this fucking biased and delusional about his career.

>>151185414
>You cannot actually be this fucking biased and delusional about his career.
sure you can >>151167588

>>151185412
>Comes west and never even kisses the finals outside of when he actually did but that doesn't count because then I can't force my stupid meme narrative about an all time great player who lives rent free in my head

>>151185436
>my bubble ring is totally legit guys!!!
hit the showers Lebron

>>151185428
LeBron clears Kobe, why are Kobefags so delusional?

>>151185447
>This ring doesn't count because I'm a hater who wants to discredit everything LeBron did
Nice to know

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No one who acts like this should be considered anywhere close to any GOAT discussions.

>>151185556
Kobe Bryant literally quit on his team in the WCF, not just played bad, he intentionally didn't do anything. Michael Jordan punched his own teammate.

>>151141488
I'm currently performing a satanic ritual to sacrifice all of us in this thread and give LeBron 10 more years

lebitch flops
he's a soft ass nigga

>>151141050
He was never competing for GOAT. It was a projection. If he does x and y then maybe GOAT. He didn't so he's not the GOAT.

lebum

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>>151141488
>>151164488
>>151184388
Blessed thread, LeBronze is not even top 10 all time, it's actually sad that zoomers missed out on pre-2003 basketball

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he's the second best

>>151184775
doesnt help that shaq himself plays to the narrative. Seems like after kobe got his 5th that he kinda bitched out and kinda forgot what he was during his prime. He needs to watch his highlights or some shit

>>151141050
Losing to the Mavs alone didn't permanently cap him at number two but it did make the bar for what he would need to have done since unrealistically high. That said, if he manages to pull out victories in 2014 and 15, putting him at six rings, I think everyone but oldheads would call him the GOAT

>>151141488
>1488
EVROPA IS SAVED

>>151161387
Based Roger Murdoch appreciator

>>151188029
Here's the thing with me. I don't care if people don't have him as the GOAT, that's completely reasonable. What's retarded is that people talk about him like he was a bum who didn't belong anywhere on a basketball court and his career was a disappointment when in reality, he's one of the those athletes that actually managed to live up to the hype surrounding him before he was drafted, actually even exceeding it. He's one of the greatest players ever but you would think he was some scrub who never accomplished anything in the league with the way discussions about him go down. It's ridiculous.

>>151185594
Correction it was the 1st round, not the WCF

>>151171483
>>dominated by the Spurs
He won a Finals off of them. They were at an even 1-1.
>>kek'd by the Mavs
Yeah.
>>dominated by the Warriors
I love how people just ignore context when it comes to the Warriors and act like he just choked. In 2015, he was down Kyrie and Love and still did everything he could possibly do to keep them in the series. In 2016, the only time it was actually even, he beat them. In 2017 and 2018, they added Kevin Durant. Nobody was beating that fucking team, not sure why you all act like it was some failure on Lebron's part when he was simply way overmatched.
>>kek'd by the Nuggets
The fact that he's in the twilight of his career and you still hold him to that standard says everything about him.

If you consider Lebron's career to be disappointing, then I hope you're way harsher on most other players.

>actually the all time leading scorer, 4 time champion with 10 trips to the Finals, who has played at an insanely high level for over 20 years with the greatest longevity in the history of the sport is actually a bum who didn't belong on the basketball court
LeBron haters in a nutshell

>>151163731
>defending is illegal bow
Yeah, it kinda is. Defending was way easier back in the day. It was actually a fucking joke compared to now.

>>151146245
>things that never happened

>>151193289
Yeah, you're right. It was actually in the 1st Round, not the WCF.

>>151184775
The Shaq roll was unstoppable how were you supposed to contain that size at that momentum

>>151192263
he went 1-2 against the spurs and needed a ray allen miracle for the 1
vs the warriors he needed a major refaballing to stay alive and a clutch kyrie
he's just not that great

>>151171472
Most of those high point games from Kobe came in non-playoff series. He's had too many choke games in actual playoffs and even finals to be considered the greatest scorer. The greatest scorer is easily Jordan because of the very high volume + good efficiency + low turnover rate

>>151141050
this fag has never been #2

Kobe is the closest to MJ we've seen.

>>151141488
Trvkenvke

>>151194077
Are you seriously counting the 2007 finals in this conversation? That was on a different team like 7 years earlier and they were lucky to be dragged to the Finals by him anyways, so that's not an indictment imo. As for the Ray Allen and Kyrie shots, yeah teammates make big shots. Do you hold it against Jordan for Paxson or Kerr making a clutch shot? If your assessment when looking at Lebron's career is "Yeah, he's not that great.". I hope you're way harsher on most other players. If LeBron isn't great in your eyes, then almost nobody is.

>>151194170
Kobrick is barely top 10, let alone #2

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>>151141488
VGHHHH VVHVTE PVWER HEIL LARRY

>>151141488
>>151141700
>>151164488
>>151194555
blessed thread, whites are reclaiming basketball

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>>151193640
And the people that could reasonably stop him from getting to the rim would just get jumphooks shot over them, because his balance, touch, and footwork were that good.

A player like Jordan, Shaq, or Kobe using his footwork and reaction time to be able to score through and around traffic and double teams is more impressive to me than a player like LeBron who's response to help is throw out of it.

>>151194734
>chucking contested bricks is more impressive to me than being a good teammate and finding the open man
Kobefags are truly something else.

>>151194139
Yeah like his 40 point games against the Blazers, Kings, and Spurs as a 20 year old, or hitting every single big basket on a sprained ankle down the stretch and OT against the Pacers in Indy after Shaq fouled out.

I will give James credit for not being a retarded N like Anthony Edwards, no baby momma drama, no gun shit, you know all that, whatever he did he kept it under wraps. In a way it's kind of amazing the media shills for him because they usually want their blacks to be dysfunctional feral retards.

>>151194734
Passing has always been a huge part of Lebron's game, idk why you all try to knock him for that. He never played like Jordan or Kobe.

>>151194861
He is essentially a white man with black skin which makes it easy for the league to market him to as wide of an audience as possible, Lebron the person doesn't exist so much as Lebron the non-offensive black athlete whose image is worth a fuckload of money does

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>>151194803
>>151194999
>Kevin I know you're a great player in the paint and the best rebounder in the game but I need you to go stand in the corner dawg and give me assists because I'm not actually that good at navigating in a crowded lane and I'm better at driving and kicking than I am at throwing traffic passes
>Yeah I'm such a great teammate by making players not play to their strengths

I would've unironically had more respect for LeBron if he stayed with the Heat because Dwyane was the one player who he coexisted with well, instead of dumping them at the first sign of the Spurs' dominance and going back to Cleveland so he could blame a new set of teammates for having a losing record in the Finals.

>>151141488
1488

>>151195060
sometimes the media hints at it but yea you have this guy who came into the NBA out of HS, got married and raised a family, that is essentially White man behavior. But they don't really talk about it or say that this should be an example for black guys to follow. They would rather talk about Ja Morant or Anthony Edwards or Stephen Jackson or any of these other guys. Telling when you consider who runs the media.

>>151195211
>because I'm not actually that good at navigating in a crowded lane
Lebron is literally the best rim attacker in the history of the game and he was a great passer, you're literally mad because he doesn't play like MJ or Kobe and acting like that's an indictment on him. That's incredibly fucking retarded.

>>151194734
>A player like Jordan, Shaq, or Kobe using his footwork and reaction time to be able to score through and around traffic and double teams is more impressive to me than a player like LeBron who's response to help is throw out of it.
It's also the reason why Magic isn't as good as Bird and there's no other pass-first PG in the Top 10 and the greatest all time at the position is primarily a scorer.

>>151195277
Yeah you're right, jews honestly make way more money pushing the violent, unstable life of a thug in sports just like they do in music. It's fucking sad, they need actual role models.

>>151195362
Tim Duncan

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>What's that coach? You expect me to play in an offense that's predicated on ball reversal and off-ball movement?
>That's stupid! How else will I get MUH ASSITZ
>Now no one will know I'm a great teammate, you're fired.

>>151141050
When people started calling him 'King'

>>151141050
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C62zHgyt9cU

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samefag and probable pinoy

are people just memeing/hating? i do think jordan had a better career overall because of his finals legacy but i don't think it's that clear cut. lebron is maintaining elite production in his 40s and stats show better efficiency and defensive impact. i wouldn't think less of a fan who thinks lebron had a better career as if the person didnt know shit about basketball

>>151197176
when he himself started doing that
and when he himself and everyone else started calling him just "LeBron" as if he's Prince

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sadly, leflop's reaction isnt as quick as before.
but everybody can still see that he still has the instinct

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Lebron's basketball iq is so high he already knows what play the opposing team is running

>>151194287
>Are you seriously counting the 2007 finals in this conversation?
Yes.

2007 is a synopses of LeFraud's career
>win piss-easy LEastern Conference
>get smashed in the finals against real competition.

2011 is even better
>get through piss-easy LEastern Conference with his hand chosen team
>gets embarrassed in the Finals gains real competition.

>>151200323
One of the few all-time great games I'll give LeBron credit for was one of the ECF games vs the Pistons that where he scored like 20 straight on them, but that was NOT the same Pistons team from 2004 and would've been buzzsawed by the Spurs worse than the Cavs were.

I also think LeBron and the Heat organization consciously took all Eastern Conference players in an effort to further dilute it down.

>>151183911
>Those nasty-ass pumpfake reverse pivots
>The double pump fake reserve pivot back-foot fadeaway over Shawn Marion who's inside his jersey

LeBron could never. Zoomers who can't appreciate how beautiful his play style is are literally nonhuman.

>>151141050
He stayed too long, like how Jordan ruined his Legacy with the Wiz

>>151201571
Every one knew Wizards Jordan didn't have anything to prove and was just playing because he was bored with retirement. It's different than LeBron trying to cement >MUH LEGASEE and failing at anything that's not a longevity achievement.

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Hmmm he did need ray Allen and Kyrie to bail him out and had to leave to get his first few chips so yeah

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Outside of the nut huggers no one takes it seriously most of the teams mailed it in and I'm a Lakers fan

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prototypical zoomer, blames everyone around him for his failings

>>151141050
When he lost 3 times to a merc squad

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With his own merc squad too, lmao

>>151203668
So I guess we should hold it against Jordan because Paxson and Kerr made big shots for them as well? What a stupid point.

>>151141050
when he 'joke' about nowitzki being sick

>>151141488
Hitler digits telling it how it really is

>>151192263
He’s in the eulogy of his career playing the most pathetic, egotistical ball in the league where he doesn’t even track back on defense and just camps out in the key for easy lobs while the rest of his team actually tries to put them back in the game. He is the laziest piece of shit behind Zion and it baffles me how people coddle and praise him for plying like a goddamn bitch and acting like he is no help

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>>151212635
The real key to his longevity is that he hasn't even attempted to play half-court defense since he joined the Cavs. He'll occasionally hunt for chasedown blocks for the highlight reel but otherwise just stands under the rim waiting for uncontested rebounds so he can start breaks.

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Which is why he doesn't get credit for >MUH TRIPLE DOUBLEZ either. It's not like he's boxing out and battling for rebounds like it's the 90s, he's not Charles Barkley pushing his man out to the foul and then bulldozing his way through another player to get the board. Zoomerball is so concerned with breaks they all get back as soon as the shot goes up.

2011
He was never going to overcome that unless he won more rings. He got 3 and then a mickey mouse ring in the bubble.

>>151141050
>genuinely competing for GOAT
Never happened. You fell for a marketing stunt. I'll beret you didn't know that he was carried to his first Finals with Cavs in '07. The media sells it like he carried a bunch of scrubs.

>>151149259
>televise nationally your decision to remove 1 billion dollars of revenue from the shanty town ghetto of the greater Cleveland area

What a dick. Should've been a bachelor episode with him giving a cuban a rose.

>>151215363
That team was dogshit without LeBron but they fit with LeBronball well and played their roles well and benefited from a garbage East. It was 100 times better than Kobe's supporting cast of Smush Parker, Maurice Evans, Lamar Odom, Kwame Brown, Ronny Turiaf, and Luke Walton who got beat by a Suns team that also would've won the finals that year if Robert Horry didn't hip-check Steve Nash into the scorer's table.

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xD

>>151141050
Since when do ring chasing faggots ever get respect?

>>151141050
Same issue as KD, it's not his ability that limits his greatness, but his personality. He's a corny primadonna who gets everything handed to him. There is no struggle, no demons, no anything really, and his biggest obstacle is being a giant bleeding vagina. At least durrant has shut the fuck up, LeBron demands everyone bow to his greatness, and people arent about that. That cleveland team before the decision where he dragged a bunch of scrubs as far as he could? Phenom, full stop. Old man lebron taking every play off on d with the whistle firmly up his ass chasing counting stats at the cost of the franchise? Could never be the GOAT. And dont get me started on "metrics", this negro has nothing compelling about him. If you couldnt build your team around him, you legit dont want him there.

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And even with that dogshit team, Kobe had them 1st in the West the next year before they traded for Pau

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imagine lebitch going against the bad boy pistons

>>151141488
BASED BIRD

is lebron the lewis hamilton of nigball

>>151219544
>Ummmm ackshually its more efficient to not guard a jumpshooter as his PER per possession is .05% lower than it would be if he drove to the rim.

>>151141050
Small penis on the NBA finals. Jordan or Kobe would never. Eternally 3.

>>151219544
I don't know how anyone could take the NBA seriously when they play defense like this, this shit is worse than a pickup game. And it's not just LeBron either.

>>151220130
Nah, Poowis Shamilton was actually able to take advantage of the rulebending and favoritism.

Jordan would have won 8 in a row if he wasn't forced into his hiatus

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>forced

Getting his retarded son into the league

>>151171426
Havent been following, when and why did lakers fans turn on him?

>>151141488
I mean how can anyone refute this post with those digits?

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>>151167588
>>never had an all time great coach with a system offense like Kobe had for all of his rings
I'm suprised LeBronfags have never used the excuse that LeBron didn't have Jerry West around to mentor him like Kobe did

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Rodman would break this fruit booty in half