Friendly reminder that we do need some kind of socialism and redistribution in football. However, it is not of the kind you guys are thinking about. It is socialism to remove all the money from the big leagues and to redistribute them from the teams in lower European leagues that have more of a winning mentality than the middle or lower rank teams.Take England as an example. Nobody denies the Premier League is the current best league in the world. All the players want to play there. And this is where the problem lies. For a player, it is better and more prestigious and more financially secure to play in an English team without a winning mentality or true history of success such as Southampton, Bournemouth or Tottenham than at a team with winner mentlity and history of dominance, such as Celtic, Olympiakos or Rapid Wien. This is why we need socialism in football, to take money out of thoss English teams that will not win anything anyway and give them to teams that have supporters that are used to see them winning trophies on a regular basis, which is the whole point of the sport.West Ham is the biggest example of this. Look at all the attention they get from media. And yet they have never won one single First tier league. They are objectively smaller than Preston, Portsmouth, Ipswich or Sunderland, just to stay in England, but you wouldn't think that looking at media and the average EPL fan. Sure, they will claim they "won" the World Cup, but it is nothing they can put on their museum. And the conference league is a trophy that is actually at their level, just as the Europa League is a trophy for Tottenham's level. Since they are not going to win anything or even do a Leicester, wouldn't their money be better spent on Rangers, Panatinaikos or Galatasaray? Teams that actually deserve more of a shot at the Champions League (or an European Super League, who knows) than them? I think so
>>151194214just remove adverts from shirts, stadiums, or broadcasts and suddenly it even out a lot more
The reason why the PL is so competitive is because the "smaller" teams are actually ambitious enough to take the game to the big teams and give them a challenge. Meanwhile Spanish and German teams are happy to bend over for the likes of Real Madrid, Barca and Bayern every weekend. The notion that big clubs deserve to be big forever is what is holding back the rest of Europe, Man Utd have that mindset and look where it's got them.
>>151194214>take money away from Bournemouth and give it to Celtic to make both divisions less competitiveone of the worst ideas i've ever seen on here
>>151194214No.
>>151194214This is a perfect example of why i voted Brexit>England >*Creates a booming industry*>Commie Europoors>REEEEEEEEEEEEEE you should do this instead and give us a chunk of your money while you are at it.
>>151194387The reason why the PL is so competitive is because some Sky execs did too much blow in the 90s and ended up paying way over the odds; that tv deal kept snowballing and eventually put the PL well ahead of other big leagues
>>151194214Crystal Palace are bigger than any Portuguese club
>>151194823>Belgium didnt have cokehead tv execs in the 90'sSad!
just a bigger MLSi don't see the quality
>>151194214>to take money out of thoss English teams that will not win anything anyway and give them to teams that have supporters that are used to see them winning trophies on a regular basis, which is the whole point of the sport.I'm sorry but this is one of the stupidest things I've ever read on this website.
>>151194823Almost like if you put money into something you can improve it
>>151195612i don't know what wool they pulled over your head but only watching EPL you should see that the quality has declined from a few years agowhile the money has gone up
>>151195727I didn't say guaranteed or there's no limitIt was vastly underfunded in the 1980s
>>151195727>the quality has declined from a few years agoAbsolutely wrong.
>>151195861first Liverpool and City destroyed the competition with regular 90+ seasonsthey played a different sportnow they are past their peaks and every team is just equally shit
>>151196019Nah the overall quality of the league improves every year. The gap between the top teams and everyone else (except the 3 promoted teams) is so small now
>>151196019Everyone is shit but won conference league and had both europa league finalists last season while being shit. What does that say about the continent?
>>151195727What exactly do you mean by "a few years ago"? Five years? A decade? Two decades? Just so we know which standards are we using for comparison.
>>151196226five is goodten and it gets really obvious because howlers like this didn't really happen (except for SlippyG)
>>151196439I have to agree that the last season especially was very bland compared to what we had from 2018 to 2021 or so. And the best teams now certainly feel worse than the best teams then, although I would argue that has more to do with the decline in football quality the entire world has gone through.But I think 10 years is where it starts to get more questionable. The top level and the title races were very exciting, sure. But today there is a huge improvement in terms of how the EPL's minnows compare to other teams in and out of England. In, say, 2013/14 you could affirm with all certainty that City, Liverpool and Chelsea were all great sides that were very exciting to watch. But every team from 5th and below or so was absolute fucking shit. The EPL's greatest success was making teams like Newcastle and Brighton decent, and I think that's really the reason why the English are so smug about their league.
>>151196019Teams like Brighton, Brentford and Bournemouth have made a number of sensible decisions when it comes to recruitment, to the point where their best players or even their managers can leave for other clubs but they still remain competitive. The league is objectively harder now than it ever has been, and that's why clubs that have stagnated and refused to evolve (like Man U) are struggling so much.
