Now that the dust has settled, was he that bad?
>>151270794
100% yes
He's the first England manager in the long time that actually got the squad playing like a team, and he deserves a lot of credit for that. But he also single-handedly cost us the trophy in the 2020 final with his decisions.
>>151270794He led ENGLAND to 3 semi finals in 4 tournaments. He was a miracle worker
Saudi money coming to Man UtdSouthgate at Utd
>>151270794I was a Southgate OUTer long before others were but truth be told he did a lot of good for the whole squad and mentality of the players/coaches/staff by bringing everyone together and getting rid of the club rivalries. He has also done a lot of good work for the grassroots level. HOWEVER the man is not a very good tactical manager aside from keeping things tight and organized whilst trying to sneak a goal. I never felt when watching that we were going out to win and win convincingly. People will say he's the most successful and you can't be that lucky that many times in a row but actually go back and look at all the tournaments his England sides were involved in, we had extremely lucky runs every time only to be beaten by a side than on paper we shouldn't beat. And that's how I measure a manager, does his teams ever beat a team that they shouldn't beat on paper, Southgate's England never beat a better squad. The only time we should have won was the Italy final and his decisions cost us the game.
>>151271117>I never felt when watching that we were going out to win and win convincingly.this, it took a moment of magic from nowhere to draw level in the dying moments with the titans of slovakiaand tucheliban is basically just continuing the same style of football
>>151271552Can;t believe Soufgate came out and said "yeah we just followed the plan we weren't worried" with that result. What was the plan to score a bicycle kick at the 95th minute from a long throw?
>>151270794the truth is always somewhere in the middle, the only manager i can think of who is 100% bad with zero redeeming qualities is pooben amoorim
no he was great, england shoulda kept him
>>151271595always followed the path of least resistance behind the mic, it was unthinkable of him to slip in a showy 'fortune favours the brave' or something to that effect
>>151271050That was in spite of him, not because of him, retard.
>>151271050>micro nation chatting shitToo cute
positives-good man management-professionalnegatives-too conservative/reactive with subs-too defensive (i think at one point we had a back 5 with 2 dms which was frankly obscene)
>>151270794i miss him so much ladsevery single match was absolute kino
>>151271886Micro nation with more medals at the world cup than jewgland
>>151272173It would be highly unsporting to actually be good at a game we invented, uncivilised micronations can't understand this
>>151272173You blew your 1 and only chance to win a WC.
Bringing in a load of cold weak-ming ngubus specifically for the penalty shootout is the stupidest decision anyone has made in football since the Ali Dia signing and he doesn't get enough critizism for that probably because it would be illegal in the Orwellian Caliphate of Bongistan.
>>151272173Blud thinks there are silver medals :skull:
Southgate was based. England had a legitimately decent squad under him and he purposefully sabotaged every chance of a trophy. For some reason the britcucks view him as a hero.
>>151270794>>151270893Yeah he was terrible should have been the head of FA or England football director. Terrible manager
>>151272346This needed to be said
as a psychologist/motherly figure he was good. just the manager stuff he was shit.
>>151270794How many good teams did England beat in a World Cup or Euros during his tenure?None, (unless you include a decrepit Croatian team in 2018, and a very meh Netherlands team in 2024
