How does he have only 101 goals in the Brazilian Championship and 77 for the National Team and 1200 goals in total? That makes absolutely no sense.
he was a fraud
>>151723803He scored 31 Goals in 56 games in the North American Soccer League (NASL)
>>151723803Brazilian teams spend half the year playing against random village teams outside the national competition
>>151723803didn't they play lots of domestic cup games back then?
>>15172380360% of nos goals were in the Campeonato Paulista
>>151724099state championships were a big thing here till late 90s, even more important than national cup.
>>151723803Its just people rewriting history to make the current thing look better. In the future people will say Messi gols against Eibar doesnt count
>>151724411cool pic
>>151723803Don't you guys have state football competitions? Those used to be a bigger deal.Also Copa Libertadores.
>>151726004>Also Copa LibertadoresHe scored 17 Goals in Libertadores and 7 in Intercontinental Cup
backyard goals
>>151723803>doesn't know the story of his own leagueThe Brazilian title was essentially a Libertadores/Champions League of all state leagues. Most of his goals were in São Paulo state league (strongest league in the world at the time), the Rio-São Paulo regional (strongest league in the world plus the 2nd strongest state league in Brazil), and other tournaments. A lot of his goals also happened in two or three game short tournaments in tours through Europe against bigger teams who wanted to face le Santos of Pelé ou algo. Still, all his goals were legitimate and it was done with a 3 player offside rule, heavier ball, heavier kit, no cards, and constant heavy fouling. Players like Pisstiano will only reach him by playing in this baby version of football for close to 20 years, it's not even comparable.
>>151726935And also, as another anon mentioned: State leagues were more important than Brasileirão and even the Libertadores until the around the 90s
>>151724168>state championships were a big thing here till late 90sWhy lmao"oooh I am the state champ" so what nigger who gives a fuck lmao national cups are the real deal
>>151723803Everything before the 70s was kind of hazy.
>>151726935>>151727087>>151726004Pelé tem 466 gols no Campeonato Paulista Ainda bem longe de 1200 gols
>>151723803Campeonato Paulista466 goalsRio-São Paulo49 golsBrasileiro101 golsLibertadores17 golsIntercontinental8 golsNorth American Soccer League (NASL)31 golsNational Team 77 GoalsThis is not 1200 goals
They also counted goals from friendlies and show matches. FIFA has his goals in official games around 700 or so I think.
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>>151723803Taça Brasil was extremely short. When Santos first won it in 1961, they played a total of five games.>>151727087Football outside of Rio and São Paulo was and still is plumbercore. Look at the teams in picrel and ask yourself if that is by any capacity a more serious tournament than the Paulista where Santos would play against Palmeiras, Corinthians and São Paulo.
>>151729223>>151729221749 goals: Campeonato Paulista 466 goals Rio-São Paulo 49 gols Brasileiro 101 gols Libertadores 17 gols Intercontinental 8 gols North American Soccer League (NASL) 31 gols National Team 77 Goals
>>151723803Because it was a cup not a round robin league
For me it's him disowning his daughter so she wouldn't get his money
>>151723803Qrd: state championships were more importantBrazil is a continental country and a poor one, traveling is expensive nowadays imagine how expansive it'd be to do that in the 50s or 60sThis is one of the reasons it took a while to develop national tournaments in the format of 71 and onwards (with a lot of clubs and a lot of games)National tournaments usually had the state champions of a few states Iirc the brazilian federation used to pay for part of the clubs expenses for a while
