>most complete player in every facet of the game>11 of him would beat 11 of any other player>uncontested best player in his position >his role is so hard that it literally doesn't exist anymore>redefined football by just existing >won everything as the most influential player>was a proper leader and captainWhy do people bang on about Pissi and Penaldo when the real GOAT has been so obvious all along
Thirdies can and will never understand.
His position doesn't exist anymore because the offside rule turned it obsolete.
>>151803055don't forget>made everyone seethe because he did everything so effortlessly and casually that they were either jelly or thinking he wasn't workin' 'ard enuf.From first-hand experiences scouts and youth coaches will pick thick as shit players who look like they work hard but don't really do anything.Anyone with good awareness who can read the game and understands you don't need to run all the time, or players that are playing at another level generally get passed over by these idiots who just want speed merchants and big lads.
>>151803095See, we just go by who has the richest parents who can afford the "travel expenses" and "coaching/league fees", ez gg
11 Gullits would body this lil nigga
>>151803055But could he hack a cold and wet away day at Stoke?
>>151803638Do they all just happen to be black or something?
>>151803055Defenders can never be considered the GOAT. There are way too many midwits out there who think greatness is measured in goals and maybe cool dribbles you can see on highlight reelsOf course, the entire debate is futile indeed. We can’t go much further than: Beckenbauer arguably is the most complete player ever and is without a doubt one of the greatest ever.
11 Rory Delaps would tear him asunder.
>>151804206Nah, the rich kids who actually manage to gain some sort of talent get their college scholarships (if the school isn't taking ez money from foreigners paying cash) and then stop playing after college when daddy lands them a job at his firmThe others try and make a living out of soccer lol
>>151804693I understand that but for me only defenders can be the GOATs. there will always be another great forward or midfielder but defenders seem to be a dying breed and great defenders are rare, that alone makes them prime candidates for GOATdom. then there's the era argument which is complete bullshit because who's to say that Beckenbauer or whoever wouldn't be just as good or even better with access to modern training and nutrition etc. if anything it's more probable that modern players wouldn't last back then
>>151803095One of the big reasons English football was utterly fucked for decades was because a lot of youth games devolved into hoofball (which favours speed merchants and big lads).Mainly because kids were playing on full-size pitches and it was a legit tactic, but also because parents cheer their kids when they boot it up the pitch.This is not how football developed in Germany, France, Spain, Netherlands, Denmark etc.
Beckenbauer will always be my GOAT
