I believe he holds the title of best regular season QB of all time. We know the story>Beating Rex Grossman is not a high bar in a SB. >75 yard pick to Saints losing the SB>SB 48 is where the legacy was forever over. The performance was atrocious and no one can rationalize it>Has a winning record against Tom Brady in playoffs, too bad he arguably had the best defense in NFL history. Better than the 85 Bears and 2004 Patriots.I say this as someone who wanted better, I am not a hater. Sure he's better than Aaron Rodgers, but this guy was supposed to win at least 5 super bowls minimum.
Peyton's entire problem is that he was unclutch. When there was no pressure to win in the regular season he'd always put up gaudy stats, but when the pressure was on in the playoffs he'd lose his nerve and spill his spaghetti. He was always good for at least one terrible interception in crucial playoff moments.Eli clearly got all the clutch genes in the Manning family.
>>152140096Patriots proved in SB49 that Seattle defense was overrated. There's no way the Seahawks were that godly in SB48. When your QB can't throw and Wes Welker is dropping balls, you have a problem. Welker cost Brady a SB in 2012 and he did the same for Peyton in 2013.
>>152140195It helps immensely when you steal the opposing offenses signals and know what plays their calling and audibleing too.
>>152140396Colts fan? lolI'm a fan of the 49ersI have an interest in shitting on Seattle. Patriots exposed them.
he played at the same time as Brady and Mahomes came right after him, he has been overshadowed since his career started
>>152140195>SB49That was such a kino Super Bowl. I legitimately think it's the greatest football game played in the Super Bowl in the 21st Century. People forget that until 28-3, THAT was the greatest comeback in Super Bowl history. Until Super Bowl 49 no team had ever come back from being down double digits in the Super Bowl. But Brady did it. Him, Gronk, Edelman. With Revis on defense. That was a cool Owl and it was one of the few from the "evil empire" Patriots where I found myself genuinely rooting for New England.
I always thought Peyton was overrated, his performance in all of his owl appearances were mediocre to horrible. Eli was definitely the better Manning and deserves a lot more respect.
>>152140045Marino>MontanaManning>Brady>Rodgers>Maholmes> massive power gap BreesBrett Favre is quite possibly the greatest qb of all time. Do you know how good you have to be to throw all of those interceptions?
>>152141414John Elway and Brett Favre. Denver vs Green Bay was also the greatest super bowl. Pure game perspective, and storyline.
>>152140045peyton was a giant pussyhe was so afraid of getting hit that he designed the entire offense around him not getting hitwaited until the last second to snap so the linemen would be able to protect him, always a short dropwouldn't stand in and take a hit, if there was someone that was going to hit him, he would curl up in a ball and go down on his ownzero athleticism, zero moxie, less athletic than guys like jared goff and matt stafford today
Still can't believe this goofball had a winning record against Brady in the playoffs. Like how does the NFL's biggest choke artist spank the NFL's most clutch QB 3-0 in title games? Sports are weird.
>>152140045>Sure he's better than Aaron RodgersAaron’s a better QB. He overcomes Peyton’s slightly better defensive knowledge with more arm talent and mobility.
>>152141933because Brady always made deep playoff runs even with shit rosters and Peyton only did when his team was stacked
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>>152141953If Aaron Rodgers had had a better coach in his prime than Mike "Fat Fuck" McCarthy, he would have won at least two more Owls.I still can't believe they gagged against the Seahawks the same season that >>152141138 happened. That was one of the worst coaching jobs I've ever seen from a head coach. McCarthy is retarded and it amazes me he fooled so many people for so long. He even managed to get the Cowboys to hire him after the Packers finally shitcanned him.
>>152140045At least Peyton has is rings. Dan Marino absolutely dominated during his era, especially during his prime. No other QB from back than even comes close to touching his stats. But yet in his lone superbowl appearance he got BTFO by the 49ers.
>>152141978This sounds like cope, anon.
>>152141978you mean like the time he got blown the fuck out by the Ravens at home and then lost to Mark Sanchez despite going 14-2 the following year?
>>152143731>>152143654Brady made the AFCCG 13 times and only played Peyton 5x in the playoffs. That says it all.
The only stat that matters is wins and the most relevant stat is Super Bowl wins.
>>152143638He statistically dominated his first 4-5 years. After which he was merely "good" to "very good".
>>152140045>this guy was supposed to win at least 5 super bowls minimum.
>>152141933the answer to your question is simply that you are stuck in hyperbole
>>152140045hey dumbass QB's don't play against other QB's. They play against the Defense
>>152140096He only had 2 real playoff chokes as a Colt (Jets in 2002, Pats in 2003), but was branded as a "choker" by Brady stans. All of his other playoff losses as a Colt was due to1) the AFC was fucking stacked2) his defenses were rarely playoff ready3) Vanderjagt missed FG. If he had Brady's defenses, he would've won even more.
>>152140045>>Beating Rex Grossman is not a high bar in a SB.Except he wasn't playing Rex Grossman. He was playing the #3 defense that year (after defeating the #1 Ravens defense and #2 Pats defense in the previous rounds)
*injects HGH directly to the forehead*
>>152140526>he played at the same time as Brady and Mahomes came right after him, he has been overshadowed since his career startedWhat are you talking about. For the bulk of their careers Manning was considered the best QB in the league ahead of Brady.
>>152140195LOB was injured to shit in that game. I don't even think Chancellor played in it
These were his coaches>Jim Mora>Tony Dungy>Jim Caldwell>John Fox>Gary KubiakAstonishing really that he won 2 SBs. Gary is a serviceable HC but nothing great. The other 4 are absolutely dumpster fires. He wouldve had 4 most likely if not for bad, bad coaches
>>152151474Tony Dungy is a Hall of Famer
>>152151490He's in the hall because he was the first black coach to win a super bowl, and playing with the steelers
>>152141414>Marino>Montanawho won super bowl 19?
>>152149666colts had statistically better defenses than the pats did over their respective careers.
>>152149859brady made first all decades team in both 2000s and 2010s over manning.
>>152151490That that's u
He wasn't disappointing, though. His era was by far the most competitive era in NFL history. Manning would be the best QB in this era with a power gap. The league is significantly less skilled and developed than it was during 2000-2015.
>>152144104that's why we should bring back the ironman game. play both sides of the ball to really assess your skills
>>152152948Lmao check the defenses that Brady won his rings with during the overlap. Peyton never had anything at that level until 2015. Brady literally threw 1 td in his first SB run. And for the 2000s averaged like 220 yards and a sub 90 passer rating. Brady surpassed Manning, but not for what he did in the early 2000s
>>152140045>I believe he holds the title of best regular season QB of all time.Either him, Rodgers, or Marino
It's strange. I always thought American football was a team sport. But according to American media it's a single player sport.
>>152167572NBA GOAT debates ruined sports discourse outside of baseball
>>152161588Look at the infographic posted literally right above you, retard. And for all the glazing that Bill got for his defenses, people just conveniently forget that Peyton played with offenses that were full of hall of famers like Marshall Faulk, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne (who still performed exceptionally well without him) while Brady was throwing to literal WHOs at that time like Reche Caldwell and Jabar Gaffney. It's like people think you just get infinite resources to stack both sides of the ball when that's obviously not how roster construction works.
>>152140045touchdown
>>15216757228-3 ruined American sports discourse forevermore. Everything which came afterwards was mostly borne purely out of spite, one way or the other. I haven't watched (((sports))) in 5 years, but I'm still here aggressively false-flagging whichever team causes the most asspain. There is no going back, and I look forward to the day the bombs fall. Go broncos btw
>>152141953Aaron Rodgers was much more fearsome and impressive in his prime than Manning or Brady ever were. He never had the accomplishments but as an individual player he always seemed better.
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>>152141933To be fair it should be 2-2, 2006 one was blatantly rigged
>>152140045In hindsight now that Manning has been out of the league for a while and so has Brady, we can see that Manning was good but not great. He has as many Super Bowls as his brother
