Vgh... the GROẞBUNDESLIGA
>>152154995>no Ostpreußen
Austrian teams would never win the german league
>>152154995With Prussians genocided, Austria sticks out rather awkwardly
>>152155028Rapid Vienna won the german league in 1941
>>152155035We're still here, just relocated
>>152155057That's what a genocide is
>>152154995Nein.No.Non.Na.
More like GROSS.(Switzerland has no ẞ.)
>>152155028not at first, but with years of increased finantial support they very well could, yesbut never in the bundesliga no, thats for bayern to statpadbut the principle remains
>>152155018Imagine them playing in the modern Bundesliga...
>put in RB Leipzig>not Hansa Rostock for kino neonaziball
Whats going on in the middle?
>>152154995>Wolfsburg>Leverkusen >Leipzig (this one is more complicated)NeinAlso, Zürichers and Austria fans must be seething at this
>>152154995Not really happy with the selection of clubs, but based altogether. Especially if Switzerland and Austria purge our entire political ruling class and annex us, but keep the name of Germany (since we are all Germans)The league itself could be cool>>152155203It is comparatively empty and has few relevant football clubs. Erfurt and Kassel come to mind, but their normal level would be the 3rd tier
>>152155203no big cities there
>we're still here
>>152155284so you think they magically disappeared or what
>>152155220Austria and Switzerland both have traitorous occupation governments. No one is coming to save you.
>>152154995Add in Magdebirg for Negerkusen and Hannover or Braunschweig for Wolfsburg at least. And VfB Leipzig instead of RB.
Personally, I always thought Bundes should consist of the 16 top teams of the Bundesländer, with a yearly relegation between the top dog and and winner of the Bundesland's competition.
>>152155382This is the worst opinion I have ever heard I am intrigued
>>152155431kek i was about to write how incredibly stupid this sounds
>>152155028>>152155045>Schalke
>>152155367VfB Leipzig a.k.a. 1.FC Lokomotive Leipzig
>>152154995Which league would be the best if organized along language lines?
>>152156552They’re kind of LARPers. I guess we could accept them if they rename themselves to VfB (again)I‘d also prefer Dresdner SC over Dynamo in terms of „branding“, but both still exist as separate entities and Dresdner SC obviously isn’t important these days
>>152155203Ents marching
>>152157128>EPL + Celtic and Rangerssoul
>>152157128Dutch is objectively a low-German dialect. Include them in the GROẞBUNDESLIGA here
>>152157573Based knowerTwo different standard languages should not separate us. They were lucky to get out of the HRE clusterfuck, though - and they made the best of it
>>152154995>1 FUCK
>>152157615Where's the U? I don't get it, sorryIt's just FC Kaiserslautern. FCK. It gets the message across already without the U
>>152155203Trees and hills
>>152157305I think the commie names like Lokomotive and Dynamo are kind of a cool legacy desu
>>152158469There are too many Dynamos. East German football was too much of a niche thing with little to no results to override the proud history of VfB Leipzig and Dresdner SC, who won German championships and German cups. VfB Leipzig was the first German champion ever. Both clubs got disbanded after the war, it does not feel rightThe rest of the Ossi clubs are fine. But Leipzig and Dresden feel like they are too big in my opinion. Also Magdeburg perhaps, Viktoria Magdeburg feels more distinctBut I am a Wessi, so what do I know?
>>152155431>Bundesliga made up of the best teams of the BundesländerHow is it stupid?
>>152158506>East German football was too much of a niche thing with little to no results>But I am a Wessi, so what do I know?Nothing. You know nothing.
>>152155067That's ethnic cleansing, but not genocide per se
>>152157128If Portugalicia is a thing then the south needs to be separated
>>152155750käk
>>152160952so you give NRW and Schleswig Fartstein the same number of teams?
>>152169029Yes, I give Shitrhein-Kackfalen and SH the same number of teams.
>>152169149see, that's exactly why this idea is retarded.
>>152160982What has Ossiball achieved in football apart from the one European title (not the CL, but the lowest tier of the international competition) Magdeburg won? Compared to the west: nothing. The national team’s highlight is winning a group stage game against West Germany before West Germany became World Champion. And the GDR league’s list of success begins and ends with that Magdeburg title. The inherently political league was rigged as fuck so that the Stasi guys could win, and it was much weaker than the Bundesliga. The clubs in question got founded as replacements for famous clubs. The GDR is dead and its football legacy is nothing to praise - if it weren’t for the fact that this isn’t the 90s anymore and East German clubs have had enough time to develop stronger and more favorable identities in the western football system, they should have been disbanded or renamed just like the GDR regime did with older clubs for the sake of their agenda. This should have been done right after unification. By now, it doesn’t really make sense financially to replace Dynamo Dresden with Dresdner SC, and the former has enough fans and things to offer. But the truth is that the East always was the weak link in German football
for me, its SC Bonner
>>152176312They aight. But they never achieved relevance. I guess it's not that unusual given that Bonn was a glorified Köln suburb until the capital moved there specifically to show Germany wasn't unified (and because Adenauer didn't want to travel)One of these underperforming clubs in the Regionalliga West ... Wuppertal is probably even more frustrating, as is OberhausenI wish they'd lock in and improve. They'd be a decent 3rd tier club and must have more potential than some village clubs currently ahead of them
>>152176432I think they went up a division in the Mittelrheinliga recently because they finished top/near the top last season. Now theyre getting their shit kicked in all the time by Bundes/div 2 feeder squads
>>152176472Yes, they made it to the Regionalliga West (4th tier, one of five) because they won the 24/25 Mittelrheinliga, which is one of the 14 Oberligen. Last time they were this high was in 21/22. They reached a Mittelrhein Cup final in the mean time, which is relatively impressive for a 5th tier club. Lost that one to Alemannia Aachen, no shame in that. It also got them quite a bit of money. Had they won and therefore secured a ticket for the DFB Cup, they would have been off even better, of courseThey're currently in 12th and five points ahead of the relegation zone. They are doing alright. I hope they get it done and solidify. 3rd tier seems very unrealistic as of now, they just don't have the means and infrastructure for that. But as a team from a relatively large city, they should be able to survive in the 4th tier at least if they play their cards rightHow come you are even remotely interested in them?
>>152176617I visited Koln a few years ago and went to Bonn on a whim because it was a "big city" and I wanted to see beethoven's house. I ended up really enjoying it there, really comfy
>>152176678Yeah, it's a nice city. Comfy, has that large village feel. Greatly profited from the time as capital, of course. Köln on the other hand has unfortunately gotten uglier in the last few yearsBonner SC is an interesting football choice. I suppose you didn't get to visit a game? Or a game of Köln? Getting Köln tickets usually is very hard, of courseIn any case, nice to hear you liked it
>>152176312Clubs like Bonn always make me think that there should be a single unified fourth tier that is still professional. Not going to happen, of course ... but Bonn could easily be better, same for clubs like Wuppertal, Oberhausen, Jena, Erfurt, Zwickau, Chemnitz, Halle, Lok Leipzig, Würzburg, Bayreuth, Oldenburg, Meppen, Lübeck, Offenbach, Stuttgart Kickers, FSV Frankfurt, Trier, Koblenz ...The weenie hut junior zone with village clubs and reserve sides should begin lower. I don't care if Wiedenbrück or something play against Gladbach II (though I suppose reserve sides of clubs in the first three tiers should be in their own leagues), but they shouldn't stink up areas that could still be interestingOf course, this is unrealistic since the power balance between clubs like Wiedenbrück and Rödinghausen on one side and Bonn etc on the other is fucked up. You can't put them in a new single 4th tier in practice
>>152154995Switzerland has literally never been German you piece of fucking shit
>>152177004It has never been part of a German nation state, but it has been part of predecessor entities for centuries. Swiss Germans speak German (duh). It's not dumb to put them into such a 100% fictional meme scenario where the German-speaking areas have a single league"Germany" didn't get invented in 1871, it simply was the first German nation state. This map does not say Switzerland has ever been part of the German nation state
>>152177055Schweitzerdeutsch and Standard German might be less mutually intelligible than German and Dutch tho
>>152177004So? Never said they were
>>152157375boldly assuming epl money wouldnt herald the jambo century
>>152177516Makes sense, and might be, depending on your regiolect and therefore where you are from (Alemannic region or Low German or Rhineland region). Both are Standard languages, Swiss German is not. Standard German and Standard Dutch come from the same still somewhat tangible rootIt doesn't change that Swiss German is German. Other German dialects are also far away from Standard German, Low German technically is closer to the Northern Germanic languages evenNobody doubts that Switzerland has its own identity. As do many regions within the Federal Republic of Germany, though 150 years of nation state have somewhat brought everyone closer together, of course. Still, Switzerland can easily be considered part of the spectrum - as it has been for a long time. That does not say anything about it being supposed to become part of a nation state that happens to be called GermanyAgain, no one said this map is a political one. The map itself doesn't say so either
>>152154995for me, it's "1 Fuck"
maybe not so hot take, but to me ẞ is an abomination and just feels wrong
>>152205799to clarify, i mean the caps ẞ, not the normal ßi know its exsitence is necessary. it's very weird it's only been introduced a few years ago, but it just triggers my autism
>>152205799>>152205846any askers?
>>152205869>already gave me my (You)s ach, Torben
>>152205846I didn't even think there exists a capital version of ß until now lol, i just thought this one (ß) was used for both upper and lowercasehuh
>>152205799>>152205846Well, the alternative would be >>152155095 and who could want that?
>>152207860Quite frankly we should reintroduce the long s "ſ"
>>152192246could the rangers compete in epl?
>>152203124what do you mean by this
>>152208036You need to differentiate between character sets and fonts.We were talking about characters, you are talking about fonts.
This could be fun if Germans were excluded from running the organization
