Give thanks to the fraud checkers for exposing these shit teams sub edition Prev >>152174620HOL UP HOL UP HOL UPThread Theme:https://youtube.com/watch?v=UX6K7waag5Q&si=BODqLibbUUtBADOw
It’s time to admit that Dak is criminally underrated.
>>152184226
Ravens didn't need to win this game. The Bengals are irrelevant. The division will come down to the 2 head to head games against Pittsburgh If you actually knew ball you wouldn't be saying the Ravens aren't a Superbowl contender
Patrick Mahomes is a faggot and the Queefs will miss the playoffs
>>152184268
Which division is worse this year, the AFC North or the NFC South?
I celebrate Thanksgiving twiceThanksgiving Eve with DadThanksgiving Day with Mom (this is my favorite - black people really know how to throw a Thanksgiving party!)But I'm vegan and I don't want to impose by asking them not to butter the veggies so I just bring some dairy free eggnog and hang out at the kids' table!
Why does Shannon Sharpe hype up every black QB, but hates Lamar? Like he really fucking hates Lamar.
>all the bad guys won last week>all the good guys winning this weekfootball is saved!
That’s nice bungles. Too bad it’s too late to make the playoffs
>>152184236exactly thisheil jerry
After today, Week 13 of the Lynn Redden Memorial Race-Off is a tie, with one point going to Whites as Joe Burrow defeated Baltimore's Lamar Jackson, and one point going to nonwhites as Jordan Love vanquished Jared Goff and his Lions. The next match will not be until Sunday 1:00 PM EST. Until next time.
>>152184287NFCS
So anyway I'm just going to ignore that and remind myself that the Chiefs lost today so it was okay
>>152184310>boys won both weeksHuh
>>152184274Lamar Jackson cannot play in the cold. He never reached playoff success because the AFC ran through Kansas City, Buffalo, and sometimes Cincinnati.This year, the AFC runs through Foxborough, Denver, or Indianapolis. Jackson does not stand a chance, even if he memes his way into the playoffs.
I am the knower of the ball
>Cowboys win>Lions loseIs next TNF another de facto elimination game?
>>152184274Winning the shit-ass AFC North won't make them Super Bowl contenders.
>>152184352Packers were + money? Good hit though
I said my Chiefs have won enough for me to be set for life, and I meant it. I am happy no matter what. None of you can take that away from me. We may have failed this season, but we succeeded as a franchise. Our dynasty is in the history books and our QB is top 3 all time. Cope and seethe.
>lamar 'ackson
>>152184348Indianapolis is a dome thoughbeit
Is the AFCN the worst division in football?
>>152184373Sounds like you're coping lol
jamarcus russell
>>152184352My brother Mr.Sharp has entered the building
>>152184353Only for the Cowboys. They're out if they lose to the Lions but the Lions can afford the loss to the Cowboys and still be wild card contenders.
>>152184352Nice one
>>152184346boys suck but the choofs and eagles suck even worse fuck kansas shitty and fuck filthadelphiacowboys are temporarily good guys for beating both of those shitters
>>152184352Hot fingertips daddy>*sucks them*
>#000000 QBs
So Joe Reddit will lead the Bengals to the playoffs or not?!
>>152184387AFC South is worse
Can someone explain why the touchback rule exists? It seems really stupid, and I'm trying to think if it's meant to stop some loophole play, but for the life of me I can't.
>>152184268yeah, been top 5 or arguably even top 3 in the last two full seasons that he's played in. and i see him having much more longevity in his late 30s and maybe even early 40s than mahomes, lameme, allen and glass joe. he's kinda like stafford on the lions, all that's left is make a deep run in january. maybe not this year, but they're set up nicely for the future
>>152184373Gracie Hunt Groyper
>>152184407There’s a tiny sliver of a chance, via the 4th seed.
George Pickens is my current favorite NFL wide receiver.
>>152184393doubt it, the west is taking two spots so they'd have to hope the bears or packers and now the cowboys really flub thing
Soothsayer here. The Ravens draft Carson Beck. Let the Kiwi know
Dak will choke in the divisional againCheckem
>>152184412Colts, Jags, and Texans are all better
>>152184268win a divisional round game or stfu
>>152184268>the highest paid NFL player in underrated
Now da bears just need to heem the eagles and all the good guys win
>>152184407I think they can still win the division
>>152184426
>>152184426What about ryback?!
Burrow was gone for nearly 2 months and he immediately stepped back in to blow Baltimurder out. LMAO
>>152184352Based degenerate gambler
>>152184268sorry but ill never be able to rate shit shitshit. Hes been the circus clown for far to long now, there is no unseeing this.
>>152184432>32>45Double off by one's theyre owl bound
>>152184431
Dem Boyz got ya Seethin???
>>152184435I meant to say NFC South
Gayleb will buck break Filthy tomorrow. The no repeat NFC East curse lives on. Dem Boyz will win the Owl.
GREAT day for Lamar haters
>>152184428>pocket qb after the cooper rush fiascoshould go after trinidad chambliss instead
If Joey Glass wasn't so injury prone, he would be far and away the number one QB in the league. Allen and especially Mutthomes can't even stack up. He elevates a 4 win team to SB contenders, he's just so frail.
>>152184466It would be so kino if the Bears won that game. Kino team and kino comeback
>>152184387By win percentage the nfcs currently is.
Cowbros, is Jerry vindicated?
this bengals turkey segment is so fucking good
>>152184493Tbh im seeing the cowboys beat the Broncos for the owl
How do you eat a crab? I'm a flyover
>>152184428id laugh if the ravens grabbed the USF QB
>>152184425>>152184443I believe in Joe Reddit and the Bengals!
>>152184477>He elevates a 4 win team to SB contenders, he's just so frail.Oh fuck, are we the NFC's Bengals?
>>152184475It’s a joke because the kiwi has been forcing Carson Beck here without explaining why
Does Burrow have the tism?
>>152184348They’ll still have to play in Denver or Foxborough at some point.
>>152184506Use a mallet
>>152184393Look at the Cowboys' last 4 games and tell me you still think that.
>>152184477Part of Mahomes’ quality is his toughness. Burrow is out this season with turf toe. That’s the same injury Mahomes has won a super bowl on. There is no player in the league tougher than Mahomes which is why he’s so consistently able to perform in the postseason. Other than that, I agree they’re very close in pure talent. I’d still take Mahomes by a sliver
Ossai demolishing that turkey leg.
>>152184477If he wasn’t on a poverty franchise they would dump so many resources into having a last year Lions level OL for him that it wouldn’t be a problem.
Lads I met the best looking girl I've ever seen at my college but I'm almost positive she's trans, like boyish good looks, how should I play this?
>players putting trash on the reporter's platelol
>>152184525Brady didn't miss a single snap due to injury from 2008 to 2023. That's durability. Mahomo has been hurt and heem'd every season
We get to watch the Bears tomorrow!
Honestly struggling to imagine a world in which my team loses to the fucking cowsois rn(My quarterback RAPED the cowboys and also the chiefs)
>>152184541
>>152184548What about ryback?
Happy Thanksgiving Spuh and Nefell!FUCK BALTIMORE AND EVERY RAVENS FAN IN HERE!
Dem Boyz are 1-0 against the Broncucks in the post-season btw
>>152184506You rip the shell apart with your bare hands.
>>152184561Let's be nice
Don’t look up Lamar Jackson’s Wonderlic score.
>>152184540Brady also was a pure pocket QB, Mahomes is a dual threat
>>152184525There is a very large range of turf toe severity and the mutt is known for feigning and playing up injuries. He is also hard carried by refs and usually has an incredible team around him, essentially the opposite of Burrow.
>ending a strong slate of meaningful playoff-implication close games with a onesided rapefest of two non-playoff teamsf-flex bros, how could they do this to us
>>152184566>wonderlic Meme
Look up my Bussylic score.
LMFAO FUCK THE NIGGER FAGGOT CHIEFS
>>152184559>rybitch
>>152184531anyway go raiders
>>152184569>Pure cope: the post
>>152184541i just hope they can put up a fight
Lameme has 5 turnovers and 0 TDs in the last 3 games
>>152184577So true
>>152184572Can't flex a Thursday night game. It's too fucked up for teams that were set to play on Sunday and also the stadium might be in use for something else.
>>152184585>no retortConcession accepted
>chiefs
>>152184548I feel bad for the rest of the AFC I'm ngl
>>152184566Was it better or worse than Vince Young's?
The Los Angeles Rams got their sovl back, deal with it.
>>152184602I do retort. I declare my retort
>>152184598Interracial is hot! Go broncos!
>>152184612May I see it?
>>152184611>sovlNot until they ditch those uniforms
>>152184605>Mexino-go zone
>>152184473>>152184486It was cold. It’s basically a given he’s going to suck
FWIW, Joe Burrow has now won 8 consecutive starts. It doesn't make sense, but their defense really is just better when he's the starting QB.
>>152184609Did Vince Young at least score over 13?
>>152184611No. They’ll remain plastic until they go back to their 2018 unis and go back to the cute ram logo. Bonus if they go back to the Memorial Coliseum
>>152184598Why was I expecting to see her with a black eye at the end of that video
>>152184623
LaWashed
>>152184623Pause
>>152184627What long drives vs 3 and outs does to a nibba
>>152184627It's the Brady Effect. It's rare for another player to have it.
>>152184631no. he scored a fuckin 6 lol
>>152184627burrow has also won all 3 games he has played this season
I'm not giving up on the Chiefs. I'm not going back to the Royals. They fucking suck.
>>152184352Same!
>>152184642Flacco moved the ball and scored tons of points. They they still got roasted by Justin Fields and the Jets lol. It has nothing to do with TOP, that squad just plays better for him. No other way to explain it.
>Mfw I didn’t know Burrow was back and skipped the gameWtf. How did he look?
>>152184646KWAB
>Lameme without the threat of his legs altering the way defenses defend the pass
>>152184639>LaBlackQBs
>>152184642Tbh the offense has been good in other games. But I do believe that having Joe Brr out there motivates the D a little more
>>152184653rusty but good
>>152184653He’s back bro
Ravensbros aren’t even mad. The season was lost after the Bills game. This happened to many times to feel anything. The stadium doesn’t even boo, it’s just empty. Like everything. Empty.
>>152184663Huh, you can say desu now?
>Houston, Pittsburgh, Kansas City, and Baltimore could all theoretically be 6-7 after next week
>>152184636>>152184640Sorry, I'm afraid I have no choice but to deem this as a concession which I accept with prejudice.
>Ravens on the 1 yard line
Twitter is retarded lol
>>152184669>2x MVP QB with multiple 1st seed teams still couldn’t win in the AFCAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Larunningback
rams seem like the pretty clear favorite for the super bowl at some pointi'm mad about it, they're such a soulless team. hopefully someone (eagles, most likely) stops them
>>152184679Grok is wrong about the scores almost every week
>>152184679Nigga no one cares what some LLM shat out for you
>>152184648Cap. Next season is our season.
I think Lameme and the ravens SUCK!
>>152184679grok is this true?
>>152184679wasnt that the score of the november game last year?
>>152184695Ok Chris Redfield sucks poster.
Zac Taylor is like that boss who you like because he treats you well and is doing his best but he has the whole department underperforming
>>152184688>filthydelphiaThere are just no NFC good guys to root for this year that have any chance
>>152184679The world will be 90% illiterate subhumans relying on inaccurate AI slop to think for them within 15 years
>>152184689BRAVO MUSK
>>152184688>white qb>soullessPick one.
>>152184700That's obviously Tim Dewgong from The Green Days
>>152184688niggles are still keeping their dumbass OC, they’ll do nothing.
>>152184708Bears and Seahawks are your best hopes
>>152184669Lamar has to go, he doesn't look like he cares out there and he's purposely not running so he can attempt to stat pad. And no it's not because he's injured, it's been a trend the past few years and this year it's only getting worse.>Stands in the pocket>Running lane opens up>Could easily walk forward for 7 yards and slide>Stands there>Stands there>Gets sacked
>>152184719Grim
>>152184719>Caleb and Sam Darnold in the postseason lel
>>152184689Why does it get them wrong? Is it because its collecting data from people that are mentioning the scores from previous games?
>>152184719>gay #000000 QB>good guy
idk how you can be a fan of the game and root for consecutive total bullshit calls to shut the game down.I get you're playing in Jerry world and it's your fault for being in that position but god damn that was revolting for the sport
>>152184707He needs some of that Ben Johnson psychopath energy.
>>152184723He injured his hammy which is a negative multiplier for running QBs. He is 100% hesitant to run like he used to.
What hope does Lameme have. 2023 was THEE year. You aren’t ever going to have a defense that good again, and it’s not like you’re magically going to get Chase or JSN offensive piece either. Henry is an old man and only there for hype value. The defense held the Chiefs to 0 points in the second half of the AFCN. All Lameme had to do was run the ball himself but decided he wanted to be mr pure passer. Unfortunately there’s 0 potential head coaches that can turn this team around either.
>>152184723It’s not stat padding per se, it’s just that he thinks he’s like Mahomes and Burrow rather than just Vick 2.0 and is constantly trying to prove his ability to throw. He just needs someone to sit and him down and tell him to be himself
>>152184729Hidoi!
>>152184733> collecting data from people that are mentioning the scores from previous games?Yeah it seems to take scores for years ago and just assumes that's the score today
>>152184740He wasn't injured last year and it was just as obvious then.
>>152184493Quinnen Williams has basically fixed the run defense single-handedly. Pickens is a revelation and they got him basically for free. Parsons is an elite player but the team didn't need what he was doing as much as it needs what the players Jerry got for him are doing. Jerry won the trade.
I really needed to fart and a giant Patrick Mahomes came out, followed by a stinky Travis Kelce.
>>152184737>t.
>>152184748Kino
>>152184373Hey what about us who got into the Chiefs in the last couple years? I want to see them win more Owls.
just how strong would dem boys be if parsons didnt chimp out?
>>152184767It's over
>>152184772>>152184752
>>152184226>beat 2 shit teams and think they are good now
>>152184723One of his fatass linemen stepped on his foot right before wk1, he’s in a legal battle over his daughter’s custody, and he’s in a contact negotiations. These down years happen to every qb (except Brady apparently who never took a snap when his team wasn’t in playoff contention) so go next.
>>152184268Dak Prescott is so elite that he has 1 more playoff win than Tim "UNLEASH" Tebow
>>152184693The Royals aren't winning shit. Bobby Witt sucks, the pitching and offense sucks, and they can't win.
>>152184767I know this is a meme response but I have never minded bandwagoners because it’s not like they’re hurting anyone, but they *are* hurting themselves for exactly this reason. When you bandwagon a winning team you don’t have enough of a connection to care. It’s better to stick it out with your own team and then when they eventually start winning, even if it takes decades, it will be far more meaningful. But like I said, idc, to each their own
>>152184776The eagles and chiefs aren’t shit, but they are going through slumps
>>152184737The Chiefs have been getting away with murder for years. The chickens finally have come home to roost.
>>1521847792/3 of those problems are of his own doing.
>>152184783>Bobby Wittlol>the pitching and offense sucksOffense will be fine once a new and improved Jac comes back ready to meet his potential and they make some other additions. Pitching will be great, Noah Cameron is a future star.>and they can’t winThe Chiefs dynasty ends. The Royals dynasty begins.
>>152184789Chiefs are shit. Can't run, can't catch and Mahomes meme magic has run out of juice.
>>152184800Jac can't hit jack shit. Witt is trash when it actually matters. Noah Cameron will get shelled in 2026, because he doesn't strike anybody out. The Chiefs can win. The Royals can't.
>>152184806Just like the ravens, who should draft Carson Beck
>>152184750His form actually perfected coming out the bye week last year when Monken made designed runs for him. It also helped his mom chewed him out for not running (sooner) after the Eagles game. The WC game against the Steelers was the best the offense ever was. They completed a historic drive that was only rushing, 0 passes. It seemed like that offense was going to translate over to this year but the momentum got killed when the Bills won.
>>152184737>ahead in penalty yards the entire game>finally get called on TWO plays for what they were doing the whole game with impunity>this madqueefies...
>>152184809Jac hit numerous home runs and has a lot of potential. Bobby Witt Jr is one of the league’s best players. And Noah Cameron was a machine and is only going to get better. Your takes are awful and you should kill yourself. It’s Royals szn next szn. Get over it.
>>152184226Who won the Micah Parsons trade again?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX6K7waag5Q
>>152184799To be fair the mother sounds like a total psychopath. I feel bad for him.
>>152184268It only took 1 decade for Dak to graduate from garbage time fraud
>>152184816No. You should kill YOURself. The Royals are the biggest losers in professional sports. They don't make the playoffs. They can't draft. They can't win. No team has lost more games since 2000 than the Royals.
for me, it's molten salt thorium reactors
>>152184809>Jac can't hit jack shit.nigga what do you think a prospect is
Lions bros... How we feeling? We basically can only lose one more game if we want to be assured that 'off is in the 'offs
Just fucked a Swiftie. She asked if she could call me Dak while I choked her. I obliged, but I’m not a sports fan and had to google who that is. Can you guys give me some context?
>>152184733It gets them wrong because it doesn't ask me.
>>152184832The thing is that Royals prospects ALWAYS suck ass once they get called up.
>>152184838Swifites are fans of pop star Taylor Swift
>>152184226With this win I know fully believe the Cowboys are playoff contenders.
>>152184820Both teams got what they needed
Turns out having a legendary secondary with five 1st round picks is worthless when you have a nonexistent d-line. Ravens have a ton of contract extensions coming up including all three of their starting tight ends but EDC should purely focus on Linderbaum and Travis Jones, franchise tag one and sign the other. Let literally everybody else walk. Andrews and Humphrey are already gone. In fact Humphrey should’ve been traded before the deadline. Get a blue chip pass rusher in the draft and use the 2nd round on a right tackle.
>>152184853I’m well aware of that retard who do you think you’re telling anything? I would beat your fucking ass
Chiefs will not make the playoffs.
>>152184865Hot take megamind
Reminder that it is literal FACTS that the Chiefs get refball and they lost today.
/sp/ will not make the playoffs
>>152184874We're in the owl every year
>>152184874I am the playoffs
Playoff this bussy
Gotta take a monster shit, but I'm also horny and wanna fap. Can't decide which to do first.
Bench Blo Dix and start a real QB.
>>152184872It came to me in a dream.
>>152184874/sp/ makes the wild card but loses to /mu/ in a shocking upset.
>>152184884john "el gay"
>>152184884Elway is 93 years old my man.
>>152184669No dumb frogposter, losing the turnover battle every single time is the most infuriating way to lose
>>152184891/pol/ gets the first overall pick and takes a black QB
>>152184883If you take a shit you can cum in the toilet afterwards for easy cleanup just have to hurry up before the smell hits
>>152184900You sound like you speak from experience.Oh yeah. You were raped by cholos
>>152184895His back and joints are still probably in better shape than Staffords and he's possibly winning the MVP this year
my team>your team
I mean the ravens won both games last year off of sheer luck. Joey COOKED them. This was kinda an obvious outcome especially how much the team regressed. The real disappointment is that Higgins and Hendrickson weren’t even playing.
>>152184913My team has ryback
>Cleavland still in the huntlmao
>>152184907A chola known as the tripfag Temujin.
Dakota Bvllitini
>>152184907Happy thanksgiving to (you) too you crazy schizo :)
>>152184920the jets are still playoff contenders
>>152184911MVP is Daniel Jones
>>152184923Shut up Sal
>>152184934Lol
> Conversationdefault-cbs-image team logoSimmons suffered a dislocated and fractured wrist during the Chiefs' 31-28 loss to the Cowboys and is out indefinitely, Ian Rapoport of NFL Network reports.Cheffie bros…
>>152184878based
Thanksgiving this ussy
>>152184934Daniel Jones deserves comeback player
Epic mega ball knowing, my absolute scorigami cinema friend!
they should have an 8th playoff spot in each conference media selected and get rid of byes for playoffs altogether
>>152184945>the first round bust is outWomp womp
>>152184934Nah. Danny Dimes has stepped up but he still has some New York DJ in him.MVP is Stafford and it isn't particularly close at the moment. Can't believe Baker was a contender early in the season.
Guys, the score was 6-7 at one point
>>152184938RIP
Hello, new to football here. I was told that the Kansas City Chiefs is the best team in football and yet they lost today. Can someone explain to a newbie why that is? Were they missing their star wide receivers or something?
Two weeks in a row that the Chiefs got shafted by refs and the key takeaway for these mindbroken double digit IQ refball retards each time was that the Chiefs get refballLiterally logging on to post the retarded paper and DAE CHIEFS REFBALL??? again. It never ends. Completely unthinking drooling MorlocksNot responding to the Kiwi by the way don’t bother
>>152184969Have you dumb cunts tried not fouling and playing like dirty savages each game?
Mvp is Dak
>>152184833Nobody on the defense is stepping up right now. The only hope is that having Ragnow back enables the offense to win shootouts. But they've lost every single game to the teams I despise, which doesn't bode well for the rest of the season.
>>152184975Not what happens. They’re phantom calls that even the booth breaks kayfabe and protests. I don’t even care because we’re shit regardless but these people are such a great example of how unevolved humanity still is
>>152184969>the retarded paperYou post your peer-reviewed rebuttal.
>>152184968Their star players betrayed them yet again
>>152184968Unfortunately, you were lied to.
Fuck year dude!
>>152184968There is a false impression that the Chiefs have received favorable calls from officials in the recent past. This has made the referees trigger happy on penalizing the Chiefs, which obviously negatively impacts their ability to win games. They are still the best team in professional football, with the best quarterback and best head coach. But don't be alarmed! There's still quite a few games left and 11-6 will still secure them a playoff spot.
>>152184990> even the boothYou mean Tony Homo the biggest Chiefs fan on the planet? lmao he always sides with the Chiefs on everything.
>>152184268>has yet to win a playoffs gameCan't for these cownigger to not make playoffs and remind them of their back to back super bowl wins against the iggles and queefs lammmmoo
>>152184991This is the subhuman Kiwi flag-hopping as usual btw>>152183252Average Chiefs hater is pathetic beyond belief, just like this
>>152184997>There is a false impression that the Chiefs have received favorable calls from officials in the recent past.The peer-reviewed paper says otherwise. Sorry but PhD scientists >some retard on 4chan.
>>152184997>a false impression*objectively true impression proven by a peer reviewed scientific study
Don't mind me, just about to win the NFCN
>>152185007>Average Chiefs hater is pathetic beyond belief, just like thisFalse, he’s the most pathetic person alive without any exaggeration. I saw him doing that too and just ignored it. Literal danger to humanity levels of freak retard
>>152184268AYO man, hol' up before you get too excited. D00K is properly rated until he reaches a conference final at least.
>>152184997lol shut the fuck up, McDuffie got roasted, the OLine is in shambles. Rashee Rice will get you a touchdown then drop 4 passes when it matters and Mahomes doesn't trust the rest to not get picked off, there's 0 absolutely 0 pass rush 1 pressure each besides Chris Jones today. Penalties out the wazoo like every game this season. This team is going nowhere fast and the cap is going to fuck them in the offseason with all these underproducers
>>152185014YFWDBCOBF
>>152185014>only NFCN team to not make the ploffs last year>wins the division this yearinteresting
>>152184999In the Owl when they were getting bootyblasted by the bucs, Romo was unironically praising an incomplete pass by Mahomes.
Remember when Mark Sanchez got drunk and attacked some Mexican doordash driver?
>>152185019That’s fair I just mispoke, my point is that committed Chiefs haters are always like that. The Finn is the same way
Reminder the Chiefs lost to Dallas lmao.
>>152185009>>152185013did you fags even watch the gamedo you even watch football?
>cowboys roll up both super bowl champs in back-to-back gamesCan someone explain this?
>>152185041Nah you did
>>152185041>Reminder the Chiefs lost to Dallas lmao.Where is your peer-reviewed article to back up this statement?
Team is full of UNCs. Lamar says he’s healthy, “hammy is 102%,” he’s washed.
>>152185047eagles chokedchiefs were refballed to death
>>152185051I seent it.
>>152185061Allen MUST get a super bowl ring. Try to understand
>>152185047Dallas & Dem Boyz are really like that simple as that.
>>152185069>Razorcakes>Ringsbreh
Obviously crazy things are bound to happen in the game of football but the ravens being able to repeat it day in and day out is an achievement. Their identity went from defense to fumbling in critical moments.
>>1521850716-5-1
>>152185045i didnt watch the game but i know refs and goodell suck chiefs dick because i have common sense and a brain. dont need to read a fictitious paper for that
>>152184287NFCS by a wide margin. The Bucs are a fun team at best, the Panthers are mediocre with a couple ok wins, and the Falcons and Saints are both hot garbage.The Ravens would be at worst 8-4 if Lamar wasn't hurt, the Bengals have arguably the best offense in the league (though the worst defense), the Steelers are middling, and the Browns are trash but have a great defense.
>>152184352Based ball knower.
>>152185074Nobody can stop them this season. The other 3 teams in the big 4 are out, the Eagles are already collapsing again, and old man Stafford can’t keep up with Allen. If he doesn’t win a ring this season he needs to neck himself
Mahomes is still making the playoffs and are yearly afc championship game. That's the ceiling btw. Once the rest of the afc ala the bills, jags, and chargers choke to each other our seed slot will be guaranteed. You'll have to put in more effort to get the GOAT by age 29 out of the playoffs.
My broncos are going to be resting starters by week 18 (The chargers and chiefs are collapsing while my team simply chooses to keep winning).
Coach Primate.
>>152184833We're cooked, we basically need to win out and have 2 teams collapse. Spend the rest of the year trying to get everyone healthy.
>>152185092Wait who is the “big 4”
>>152185076Is that suppose to upset me??? 3-0 since we made defense upgrades as well as defeating Gaylen shartZ and mutthomes???
>>152185075>Their identity went from defense to fumbling in critical moments.Things that just happen when you build your team around a black QB
Broncos.
>>152185109This was an extraordinarily based post, brother.
>>152185104Chiefs Bills Ravens Bengals. They’re known as the Big 4 because they have the top 4 QBs and are always competing amongst themselves to go to the super bowl. The NFC either fields a meme super team (Rams, Bucs, Eagles) or is irrelevant
>>152185076We were 3-5-1. You sound like you're getting nervous.
Is Lameme past his prime? No, but the clock is ticking. UNCs are eating up cap space and it’ll be at least 2 years until the ravens are a contender again. By then he will be over 30. I agree with Nick Wright, the Harbaugh Lamar combo is over. The only way to salvage things is to fire Harbaugh and his posse (Orr, Fallele) and get a proven competent HC that can wrangle Lameme’s indecisive autism.
>>152185108Is this real?
The Chiefs made the Super Bowl in back to back seasons that were supposed to be down years. That's a testament to how great the combination of Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid, and Steve Spagnuolo is. It's also an indictment on the rest of the AFC. Imagine being the Bills and the Ravens and still not being able to go in for the kill on Kansas City while it was at its lowest point, that has to be fucking demoralizing. At this point, the only non fraud QBs at least in the AFC are Mahomes and Joe Burrow and Burrow is about to miss the playoffs for the 3rd straight season. The Chiefs are seriously unmatched in this fucking conference and now are starting to get their offensive mojo back so it's really about to be over for the conference now. The neutral fan in me wants to see someone else rise up to give the Chiefs a challenge since Baltimore and Buffalo have consistently dropped the ball and the Bengals are wasting Joe Burrow's prime, plus he's made of glass. The team in the AFC I see now is surprisingly the Colts. That offense of Indy looks legit and Daniel Jones is looking like another great reclamation project so I'll be rooting for them and if they somehow do indeed do it and beat the Chiefs, I will actually applaud them for doing what Buffalo and Baltimore couldn't ever do. Lets get back to Patrick Mahomes though. This man is an all time great Quarterback already. He already has 17 fucking playoff wins, that's 2nd most all time and he's only in his 8th season of being the starting QB for the Chiefs, that's the embodiment of greatness and he's already a 1st ballot Hall of Famer. Do you guys realize how fucking amazing that is? Out of all the QBs to play in the Super Bowl era, he's already rapidly approaching the status of 2nd greatest of all time. Now when I say stuff like this, usually people bombard me with posts about Brady, but I think Tom Brady is the GOAT. I don't think Tom Brady ever be surpassed. But can't we appreciate what Mahomes is doing?
>>152185108I fucking love Lamar but I hate it when his alter ego Lameme comes out
>>152185127Isn't your QB currently losing the division to Bo Nix? A simple yes or no will suffice.
>>152185118Bengals haven't finished higher than 3rd in their division since 2022
the boiz are sneaking into the offs and winning the whole damn thing arent they?
>>152185127Refs
>cowfaggots will be 6-7-1 in two weeksLmaoooooooo
>>152185141Imagine how insufferable and yet kino that would be
>>152185118>queffs>cakes>ratbirds>bungalz>combined these “big poor” have the same amount of owls as the fucking stoolersEl oh lel Anon, Happy Thanksgiving, glad you got to drink heavily today
>>152185139That’s pretty crazy actually
>>152185141They might get into the off but Jerry, according to himself, literally sold his soul for that third Superbowl win, he's never winning one again.
>>152185133BIXED.COM
Burrow, Allen, and Lamar will never win a SB, their window has slammed shut
>>152185155Why do so many people sell their souls for an owl? Is that the reason the Pats won six in 20 years, cause that turbo snake Kraft doesn’t have one?
Why hasn't there been any all time great defensive backs in the NFL for like the past 5+ years? We used to have dawkins, reed, troy, champ, revis, woodson, all obvious hall of fame locks when they were playing, but now not so much. Is it just too hard? Or zone takes away from individual greatness?
mahomes guaranteed at this point has been part of kelce and taylors humiliation rituals. thats what tells you the refs are in their favor
>>152185163Allen is winning it this season 100%. Screenshot this on your machine.
>>152185165>Why do so many people sell their souls for an owl?It's worth it
>>152185143The lack of enthusiasm in your laughter you know you don’t even believe in the shit you just typed.
>>152185155Jerry is a pre-salary cap babbyThat being said, this is his best chance to advance in this millennium
>>152185122The clock has already tickedStatistically, if you havent won your first superbowl by your 8th season your chances of ever winning one plummet. Only 3 qbs have won their first past their 8th season, and 2 of them were named stafford and peyton manningLameme is only going to get worse the older he gets. Youve already got a taste of what hes like without the ability to run well
>>152184648>ChiefsyalsFor me is the Bearcubs
>>152185163slam this bussy
Lions are cooked.
>>152185014the zesty burr marches on
>>152185183>shuts your window
>>152184779>he's in a legal battle over his daughter's custodyDamn, I feel for the guy.
>>1521851661. Defenses moved away from big linebackers to prioritize speed because runningbacks got smaller and faster2. Defenses can’t play defense anymore
Now that the dust has settled, can we agree that both teams ended up winning the Parsons trade?
>>152185166Because defenses don't matter anymore.
>seven nation army performed at an actual halftime showIt really took them that fucking long to finally do it?
>>152185166wide receivers are the most coddled position after QB
>>152184913>my team is the GiantsEvery team > my team, except maybe the Tits but I don't believe any Titans fans exist.
>>152185189if he was a good dad judge would give. he dads like hes in playoffs
>>152185133It's the Broncos defense carrying the team. Just like the old days
>>152185204A simple yes or no will suffice.
>>152185196they said my dick is smalland my balls are too small to
Please retire Andy. Please God retire please
>>152185204Yes, the AFCW battle is between the Broncos and Chargers. The Chargers are doomed and the Chiefs forgot to pay the refs this season
I don’t believe all those le positive training camp headliners. Lameme came into the season abnormally pissed, you could see it in the Bills game.
>>152185217Meant for >>152185210
>>152185194But we got guys like Garret and Watt that are obvious HoFs. Its mostly a DB thing>>152185201Yeah I wonder how many times those greats would be called for PI now
>>152185175>Jerry is a pre-salary cap babbyHe really isn't, he was always a cheap bastard who hated paying players. In fact I think he would have refused to pay Micah just on principle salary cap or not. He In reality Jerry was just a Jimmie Johnson and the great train robbery babby
>>152185214What happens first, retirement or Waffle House induced heart attack?
>>152185223Who's he mad at? He got paid, he just fucking chokes constantly. What's he so mad about?
Harbaugh has been winning all this time despite lememe, not because of him
I have a feeling the Bills/Steelers game is going to be an ugly slopfest. Multiple turnovers. Relatively low-scoring. What's the O/U anyway? Not a betting man, just curious.
I can't believe I was rooting for the Cowboys today, please Jesus forgive me
>>152185238He has a negative record without Lameme. Lameme is also like #4 best win rate in history. Harbaugh had Ray Lewis and Ed Reed and only just barely pulled off a single SB. He’s not built for today’s league.
>>152185245Rooting for America’s team ain’t nothing to apologize about.
>>152185237He's mad because he can't pass for shit and wants to be considered a pocket passer
>>152185203Nah family court in the US is pretty fucked and prejudiced against fathers
>>152185192Dallas still needs to nail their picks, but they usually do
>>152185256He is black. A nigger, if you will.
>>152185245I wasn't rooting for either team, I'm just glad the Chiefs lost.
>>15218524445.5
All the good guys won today except for the bengals who are probably chaotic neutral
>>152185166No more headhunting
>5 PI flags in the 2nd half is most in 35 seasonslmao Chefs git gud scrubs
The ravens were down by 5 points coming out the half but it felt like 20 because of the autistic and frantic playcalling. I feel like the gameplan was very clear, just do outside pitches and short passes to Henry. But as usual he barely got the ball, Lameme received all the pressure, and defenses can easily decipher what the offense is going to do by looking at which of the 3 running backs are out there.
Lamar is injured fuckin retards. How quickly you forget this man is a multi mvp. Show some respect
>Chiefs LT fractured his wrist today>they play the Texans nextCHIEFS MISSING THE PLAYOFFS
At least Cowboys vs Indians on Thanksgiving is back?
Sometimes I think we forget that Dak is the same kind of precision mutt-blend that Mahomes is. He literally got the black athleticism and the white intelligence just like Mahomes did. On top of that Dak is also part Native American. I don't know what that contributes but it probably contributes something.
>>152185274I'm curious, why do black guys get so sensitive when (white) media/fans hate/criticize a black athlete so much, whether is justified or not? That doesn't happen with white athletes.For example, Shedeur.
>Bears vs Packers for ownership of the Northas god intended, it has been too long
>>152185211cum town moment
>>152185264Seems a bit high for some odd reason...though I could see a 24-21 final.
Black QBs?
>>152185274He didn't deserve to be a multi mvp
>>152185290decades of white leftists enabling them
>>152185263Many such embittered losers
Reminder that Brady went 16-0 when he was 30.
How come Harbaugh is such a retard autist except when he plays his brother. Remember when he went for it on 4th down on his own 30 last season against the chargers and it worked. Like what the actual fuck.
>>152185282>It was Kareem Hunt who fractured Simmons' wristhttps://x.com/MattFosterTV/status/1994197816088928364First Mahomes injures Rice then Kelce injures Worthy, now this. How do the Chiefs keep doing this?
happy Thanksgiving cowbiechads
>knocks the Queefs to the ground for Houston to finish offTexas will SAVE the NFL
HOL UP HOL UP
Total Choof Death.
>>152185325It’s already over dude. That was a must-win for the Chiefs. They aren’t going to the playoffs.
>>152185289Has there ever been a mutt quarterback who got White athleticism and Black intelligence, instead?
>>152185217I'm sorry, but did the Chargers already lose? Oh, that’s right. The game isn’t even over yet. In fact, it’s only halftime. Does not having the lead at halftime count as a loss? Is that what you’re saying? Because if you’re saying that I can assure you that you’re wrong. Why would you make this topic when the game is still on? The Chargers are still playing right now and they have been the best team in the AFC West for how many years now? They’re playing one of the worst teams in the NFL who just happen to have a lead because they’re feeding off the energy of playing in a Monday Night Game. But you know what? They still fucking suck. The Chargers are one of the best fucking teams in the NFL, they went 13-3 last year and would of won the Super Bowl if the kicker didn’t choke. Maybe you should shut the fuck up before you make retarded topics like this. You know why? Because you’re going to be embarrassed when the Chargers wins and someone bumps this topic. Oh look at that, the Chiefs just stepped out of bounds short of the 1st down when they needed to get one, just like the Jets did. Are you a fucking drunk? Are you retarded? Are you autistic? You are a fucking idiot and you should never make a topic on this board again and I’m fucking serious. I almost have a feeling you’re the only guy making all these anti-Chargers topics because you’re a faggot hater who doesn’t like the team because they’re good. Fuck you, be good at something in YOUR life and then maybe try to troll these fucking teams on the board, like I give a fuck. It’s so easy to spot out your threads now, you’re a retard. Always doing stupid shit like this. Why don’t you try to be a good poster? Just for once? For once in your fucking life try not to make a topic like this. That’s just you, you’re always right at getting it wrong. Fuck you. You are nothing.
Then I heard the voice of Brady saying, “Whom shall I send? And who will start for us?” And Carson Beck said, “Here am I. Send me!”
>>152185339No. He wouldn’t have made it to the league
>>152185336IIRC if they lose to the Texans, they're outright eliminated.
>>152185339Yea Geno Smith
>>152185321You can only game the system with refflaging so much before the karma sets in.
>>152185339JJ McCarthy
>>152185350Maybe technically but it’s just a pure technicality, they realistically have no shot after tonight. It was already a stretch even if they won
Apparently the entire ravens o line got booed during their introductions lmao
>>152185339Jamarcus Russell, maybe?
>>152185047>my teamWould beat both last year's superbowl teams and bootyblast dem boyz
How do >we solve the Tony Romo problem?
>>152185339Ryback
all the iggles have to do is run barkley 30 times and they'll win the gameburrs D is still bad and still missing half their linebackers
LaNine Jackson
Guys, im concerned about statmutt
>>152185363Doubt
>>152185174>scared Lmaoooo
>>152185374His best hope is 10-7 and either the Chargers or Colts collapse. That's the best chance the Chiefs get in. I can't see them winning out even with their toughest games left being all in faggothead
>>152185364What problem? Mahomes is a good qb. Why do you figure most commentators (including Brady the supposed goat) fawn over him? It's because he's good and the best qb to ever exist ever.
>>152184407If they win out the division is in play. They’ll promptly job in the playoffs but it would be a nice turnaround
>>152185374>>152185383Mahomes will make the playoffs. And cruise to another owl. Mark my words. I'm still serious about mahomes being the best QB by 29 and have not lost a goat debate as of yet.
>>152185384The product on the field doesn’t match that narrative. In fact it hasn’t for a while. He’s been average at best for the last 2 seasons. Terrible deep ball thrower too unless the refs bail him out
>>152185388Burrow doesn’t job in the playoffs, as long as he makes it. You don’t want to see him there.
>>152185343tl;dr, I meant the Raiders are doomed, the Chargers can still Chorge as long as their Oline doesn't get Herbie killed.
>>152185392>I'm still serious about mahomes being the best QB by 29 and have not lost a goat debate as of yet.How can he be the best if Brady is better??
>>152185392
>>152185392Soon
>>152185396You fags still get scared watching him almost win close games unlike last year when you knew it was gonna happen once he got the ball back with like a minute left.
>>152185355No, all that therapy and zen mumbo jumbo and alter ego shit is a very white thing to do. Blacks would never
>>152185392I'd still guess the queefies get in looking at the remaining schedule but I can't see winning out. Broncos or Texans will get one win off them. They should beat the Chargers, @ Raiders and @ Titans. The Josh Simmons injury looms big against those Texans and Broncos fronts
Most.Valuable.Primate.
>>152185411God I hate the Chiefs but I swear to God I don't want another mother fucking Pats "dynasty".
>all the good guys won todaybased
>>152185392Mahomes isn't a top 10 current starting QB, and he never has been.
>>152185417The cheats aren't winning another game this year. Not even against the tits
>>152185339Brett Hundley
kek ramspacos
>>152185376Are you having a Bo induced melty? Common predicament around here
>cowcanos cucked into doing the bidding of the Aryancosi love when we weaponize brown people against each other
>>152185339Deshone Kizer one of the most forgettable clowns "franchise savior"
Did Jaxson Dart and Hufanga play together before or was Hufanga just trying to cop a feel here?
the Cowboys beat both previous year's Super Bowl teams back to back and....Failed to make the playoffs.
>>152185450Broncos fans were Cowboys fans for a day. That probably won't happen again for another 20 years
kek when did 4plebs start using an AI to label meme imageshttps://archive.4plebs.org/sp/thread/152184226hover over any image older that 00:54there's some AI labeling them>The image is a composite of two separate photographs, each depicting a moment from a football game. The top photograph shows two football players in the foreground, one wearing a white jersey with the number 4 and the other in a white jersey with the number 18. Both players are wearing helmets and are in the midst of a play, with one player holding the football in his right hand and the other reaching out with his left hand.>The bottom photograph shows a player in a white jersey with the number 3, who is in the act of throwing the football. The player's right arm is extended, and the football is in mid-air, indicating a successful throw.>The background of both photographs is blurred, suggesting a stadium setting with spectators. The text overlay on the top photograph reads "EAGLE 21 FINAL 24" and "DALLAS 28 FINAL 31," indicating the final scores of the game. The text on the bottom photograph reads "DALLAS 28 FINAL 31" and "EAGLE 21 FINAL 24," suggesting the final scores of the game.>The style of the image is a combination of a photograph and a graphic, with the text overlay providing additional information about the game's final scores. The image is likely used for a sports-related context, possibly for a sports news article or a social media post.
>>152185427>Rich neighborhoods have private securityyeah
>>152185465Broncos already beat the Eagles and the Coofs too you know
The image is a meme featuring two football players in a stadium setting. The player in the foreground is wearing an orange Broncos jersey with the number 15, and he has a smear of red on his face, suggesting he has been in a fight or has been involved in a physical altercation. He is smiling and looking directly at the camera. The background shows a stadium filled with spectators, and there is a blurred figure of an official in the distance.Overlaying the image is a text that reads, "YUP, YOU'RE HAVING A BO INDICTED MELTY," which is a play on the phrase "You're having a BO (body of evidence) indictment." The text is in white and is placed at the bottom of the image, serving as a humorous commentary on the situation. The overall style of the image is a meme, which is a form of digital humor that combines elements of real-life events with fictional or exaggerated scenarios.
>>152185424They should beat the tits and durrs but even those aren’t gimmes which should terrify queefs fagsThey get the Broncos, Texans and Chargers at home. They need to win 2 of those minimum and they might end up needing all 3. The division is gone, of course, the only question is whether they can sneak in as a 7
>>152185472They also embarrassed dak poopsock, he threw 2 interceptions and got showed up in passer rating by fucking Nix. Plus an anon in the game thread called an interception right before it happened, it was beautiful.
>>152185482>bo induced melty gives shitty image caption model a melty
>>152185468youre naive if you think that AIniggers haven't been scraping the chans and their archives to train their models for the years now
>>152185482AI is retarded what else is new
>>152185499no shit you double nigger everyone knows that my point is its funny that an archive site is running it and adding the data themselves usually its just niggers hoarding it
>>152185459They went to USC
>>152185509>my point is its funny that an archive site is running it and adding the data themselvesno shit you triple nigger, my point is that youre fucking retarded to be surprised about this
>>152185519take it easy
>>152185522ill fucking tell you when ive had enough, LEAF
>>152185482>which is a play on the phrase "You're having a BO (body of evidence) indictment." As shitty as AI is, it's shittiness is definitely good for the occasional laugh.
>>152185380You don’t want to remember the last time a team tried to scare us.
>>152185468weird. it must be a tiny dipshit model too.
>>152185519it is suprising you quadruple nigger archive sites are constantly running on fucking fumes and a thankles jobs its fucking weird that sites begging for money would add such a retarded niggerlicious feature ESPECIALLY one that doesnt even know what a fucking pepe is its like if someone who never used 4chan set it up
>>152185536yeah kek i think they used some cheap ass 6B local model or something. they're cute but jesus christ i'm pretty sure you can at least put into your imaging prompt something like "assume all cartoon frogs are pepe"it also doesnt have entries for some images so maybe there's filtering criteriait also can't read text for shit, i thinks [RAUGHS] is RAUGSI
>>152185541It isnt surprising at all you enormous quintuple nigger. You said it yourself, they run on fumes. They have all the financial incentive in the world to sell training data.Hit the weights, take a shower, get a clue.
>3 games on a Thursday >1 game tomorrow >Sunday football is in 3 daysThe holidays always fuck up my perception of what day it is
they need to add searching captions because i want to see how many threads on 4chan have "This image is a screenshot of a twitter post" as the image captionactually come to think of it i realize now why they're doing this, they probably have some pizza detection pipeline and either use it or added it for other functionality. you can drop images that say "young girl" even if they're not pizzathanks for reading my blog>>152185559they're not selling the training data you sexlesstuple nigger they're doing it for their content moderation pipeline, any nigger can scrape 4chan and do this trash there's no business case there, if they WERE selling it they wouldn't fucking put it on their own website for free you OCTUPLE GIGANIGGER they're literally shooting themselves in the foot by doing so
I was a Dem Boys fan for a day. Felt weird.
>>152185572Those numbers... I feel like ive seen this before........
Am I insane to think this bengals team is 2-3 defensive pieces away from contending next year. LB, S, iDL and who stops us. Young corners are studs, trey gets healthy, murphy finally showing something. The groundwork is there even if sometimes it hasn't looked like it this season
>>152185550i was thinking they might be doing classification to tag potential cp but i checked the /hr/ archive and whatever model they're using is hesitant to call women women, it's all "a person", "the individual". even in the playboy thread it's struggling to admit that there might be some salaciousness going on.
>>152184226>faggot boss demanding I do something tomorrow morning the day after Thanksgiving on a non-time-sensitive projectGoing to enjoy slow-walking this while he sits on his fat boomer ass waiting for it all day. Any followup and he’s getting hit with an autoreply
>>152185567Smelly CENTUPLE niggers like you will never ever make it. And how could you? You couldnt get it figured out even if I drew you a gigantic nigger map
>>152185579maybeyou can do a fast pass through YOLO to do people detection too thoughthere's some models which also do age estimation but they seemed pretty shit , maybe they're better when its a binary "child/not child" classifieror maybe it's just some guy that donated compute
>Lions HC Dan Campbell reportedly put a hole in the wall inside the Lions locker room after getting beat by the PackersWionsbros…
>>152185583>realizes his entire retarded niggerargument was defeated by the fact that they're giving it away>gives upi accept your concession decanigger
[Fun Fact Thursday]: Tom Brady has never taken a snap while statistically eliminated in the regular season.Unbelievably in the stretch of 23 games spanning across two franchises, Tom Brady has never taken a snap while mathematically eliminated in the regular season.
Football
>>152185572same here fren i dont know what it is but i feel weird puta mierda ese that game was loco que me pasa? ayuda!
The cowboys did the needfull!
>>152185600Well he's a fucking idiot. I couldn't imagine working for him
>>152185600I heard he smashed an iPad over Jared goffs head
>>152185601>Still doesnt get it Small brained hectonigger
>>152185618They're adapting, slowly
The image is a digital illustration of a character that resembles a frog with a human-like face. The character has a green body with a blue shirt, and it appears to be in a state of distress or worry. The eyes are wide open, and the mouth is slightly open, suggesting a frown or a grimace. The character's eyebrows are drawn in a way that they seem to be arching upwards, further emphasizing the expression of concern or worry. The character's facial features are simple and cartoon-like, with no additional details or shading that would suggest a more detailed or realistic representation. The image is in a simple, flat style with no shading or depth, which is typical for digital illustrations. There are no texts or other elements present in the image.>It appears to be in a state of distress or worryalso my sides it doesnt recognize pepe as pepe but it thinks apu is pepehttps://archive.4plebs.org/sp/search/image/Ye4GkHKIs0L8aL3nBCGZKw/
>>152185600KWAB
>>152185625Keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek Dan got worked into a shoot. I wonder what Ryback will have to say about this
>>152185630You've been posting this for like 3 years and I like the Packers but this AI slop is just fucking gay and retarded
>>152185629>. The eyes are wide open,How many billions of dollars in energy costs does AI waste again?>>152185600Campbell is already 1-2 as a playcaller. 0-2 against over .500 teams.
>Many this week4
>all these people ITT rooting for the Cowboys for the first timeNext you need to actually come to Dallas. It's a pretty neat town. At the very least, it has good restaurants and good museums.
>>152185686dallas is the most soulless place i've ever been after phoenix
Keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek xitter dabbing on Nick Wrong bro is plonked fr fr
>>152185686>actively inviting outsiders to visit /live in TexasSo you're from the west coast, huh?
>>152185731Probably an Indian
>>152185726Geeeeeeegorino
>>152185738oh say can you see
Now that thanksgivings overRate it/10
>>152185755I enjoyed the first two games. Wasn't really feeling like watching the Bengals/Ravens. 7/10 Thanksgiving football
>>152185755Was hoping that the Lions would win because fuck the Packers but the Cowboys winning, Chiefs losing as well as the Bengals winning and the Ravens losing makes it a 9/10.
>>152185649New>>152185649In a few
>>152185755goof goofing, queefs queefing and the niggerbirds niggering was pretty fun. 8/10
>>152185731If you were truly confident in the grandeur of our state you'd have nothing to fear. Let them visit. They can bask in us.
>>152185649
>>152184779> he’s in a legal battle over his daughter’s custodyMaybe he should be less of a nigger>and he’s in a contact negotiationsSame with like a third of players every year