Which countries that haven't won the WC are iconic/legendary in your eyes?
>>152275766Netherlands and Portugal. The rest feel a tier below.
>>152275766Yugoslavia
Belgium
>>152275766Hungary, Netherlands, and recently *cough*Belgium*cough*, Portugal, and Croatia. Not really on par with the others, but they had a shot at winning the cup, I think.
>>152275766Iconic and legendary are big words, but they can be used very inflationary. They can also mean very different thingsHungary hasn't achieved anything of note since 1954. But their "golden team" and also their success before that arguably make them more iconic than, say, Mexico, who are at every World Cup but never make waves. But of course, you have to put Mexico above Hungary nowadays in terms of football impactThe Netherlands should reign supreme either way. They didn't do much before the 70s, but what they've done since then is greatNot really sure about Portugal, they had one good run in 1966, played one good tournament in the 80s, and then started being relevant in the 2000s. But for a lack of alternatives, they must be named as wellThe rest is not really up to it, I think. Scotland for example hasn't been important for too long, as iconic as they probably are in terms of football culture
>>152276012I was thinking that, you could argue any country with a distinct uniform is iconic
>>152275766Neverlands, maybe?>>152275850Poortugal had that Simpsons feature. We will finally determine which nation is the greatest on earth, Mexico or Portugal. Holds it. Hoooolds it.
>>152275928This, but without belgium.
>>152276111They played a very boring match in 2006 group phase
>>152275766Ok, who made this? A Mexican or a Scottish?
>>152276166obviously mexican, no true scotsman would ever count continental cups
Why is Uruguay not shown in the Winners list
>>152276327Anon
>>152275766>thirdie trophies
>named "cope america">none of the countries who play in it are Americanhuh?
>>152275766Zaire
>>152275766LOL, Mechico
>>152275766its almost like small population countries have a harder time winning this thing
>>152277262>Uruguay
>>152277262What about the big population countries that haven't won it
>>152275766If Uruguay gets 4 stars then Belgium also gets a star. Finished the game on the first try. Then sat back and laughed at all the sweaty retards. Imagine sweating this hard over a Fifa game.
>>152275928what about czechoslovakia
>>152275766Not Mexico, that's for sure.
Chile just by the basis that they made pessi retire
1- Netherlands, by far2- Yugoslavia/Croatia3- maybe, PortugalUnfortunately I don't know enough about Hungary, Czechia or Sweden in the old cups
>>152277334It always scares me how quickly the populations in many of these countries rise. Ethiopia was at „barely“ 100m not too long ago, DR Congo at like 80. And so on. The countries that can sustain their population the least grow the most, while the rich countries just ain‘t poppin‘ and either shrink or import masses from the poor countries that grow like crazy, which isn’t a really sustainable solution either. It doesn’t sound all too healthy all in allAlso, on a different note, it is noticeable how that most countries on that list are kind of suck at football … and/or in team sports in general
>>152278270Yugoslavia and Croatia are different entities, I don’t think you can count them as one. If anyone is the successor to Yugoslavia, it is Serbia, which is why Croatians left. Croatia has a nice track record, but I kind of think people are influenced by recency bias as well. They are good, impressive … but I struggle with calling them a legendary and iconic national team. Hungary would be above my list, but maybe I am influenced by whatever the opposite of recency bias here since the past always feels more „legendary“. Hungary‘s golden eleven of 1954 is the stuff of legends for sure, although they didn’t win the World Cup. Another final in 1938. They were really good until the 60s, but haven’t been big since thenNetherlands being first is obvious, although they came out of nowhere in 1974
Netherlands far above everyone else, it's a no brainer.Portugal has great club football success but their historical record on the World Cup is terrible.
>>152275766>mexicoWe are more accomplished in a sport we barely care about than those midgets.
>>152279056Mexico are CONCACAF record champions, hard to say the US can be considered more accomplishedSure, there's the bronze medal at the 1930 World Cup. But that's the most scuffed accomplishment ever: ages ago, numerous clearly stronger teams didn't bother to attend (Italy, Germany, Austria, Denmark, Spain, Hungary, Czechoslovakia), the US had only two group opponents (Paraguay and Belgium) and had then reached the semifinal - where they got clobbered. No third place match was held. It isn't enough to say the US eclipse Mexico when Mexico have more continental titlesMexico also have more World Cup participations, but you both have the same number of quarterfinal appearances, or rather "making it to the last 8": two. US in 1930 (when there was no quarterfinal) and 2002, Mexico in 1970 and 1986 (both times as hosts)Considering that the US started "caring" only recently, they are better. But all in all, Mexico are better historically. It's still 10:7 in Gold Cups, and Mexico won the last two
>>152277334Wild how Mexico hasn't won one yet
>>152275766Only Netherlands. They are even more iconic than England and Spain.No one else is that close to them to be worthy mentioning.
So how many stars do you guys have?
>>152275766Netherlands Croatia and Portugal. Croatia honestly should've won a Euro cup in recent years if they werent such pathetic choke artists
>>152279169Since we hosted the 94 cup, we've had bigger wc upsets and better performances with a shittier group of mlelsoy players than they have in their entire history. And now our national team has better players than they do
>>152277334Why did China footy project failed while Japan worked?
the sad realization that no team other than those that already won the WC, will ever win the WC.
Turkey in 2008 had a great team.
>>152275766Netherlands for the world cup pedigreeMexico for the world cup pedigreealso, Spain has 2 WC top 4, not 7
>>152282878Team work is like the kryptonite of the Chinese
>>152275766I used to believe Portugal had some kind of eurobrazilian Tactics but they we're and are a messModern Netherlands is "((pacey))" football
>>152278414I think you could make an argument based on how iconic Croatia's kit is.
>>152276111Ariaga II
netherlands but croatia's progress in the last 30 years or so is also worth mentioning
>>152276874Your country literally was on the last edition, bob
>>152280166I kneel
