I wonder if they know it's not in Kansas.

>>152355475
I know it's in Missouri (but not the capital), but there's a smaller Kansas City right next to it in Kansas. It's on the Kansas River.
Truth be told, I find it very annoying that it's not a single big city in Kansas. Kansas City in Missouri ... having two different cities with that name next to each other in two states ... it just feels off. I also know the city is in four different counties, which I also find weird
I know the Kansas City Chiefs are from there, but I think they have no NBA or NHL team. I think the city has like 500,000 inhabitants? Heard it's famous for its influence on Jazz. And given its location, I assume it was founded in 1815-1840
Saying that it's one of the largest cities in the middle of the country should be obvious

BTK

>>152355475
If you really must go to Kansas City, go to Missouri and not Kansas.

Thats the closest the mob bosses can get to Vegas in Casino

Thats about it.

>>152355820
That was in Wichita.

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Home of the greatest football team on the planet, my Kansas City Chiefs.

>>152355652
You just have to remember that the state of Kansas is empty and nothing worth remembering is located there. It's so empty even Kansas City is located in a different state

>>152355475
I couldn't tell you a lot about Houston, Dallas, and Atlanta either. Yeah, these are bigger names than Kansas City. But I wouldn't call them world famous, especially not Atlanta. Saying something about Seattle is kind of hard as well ... Amazon is from there, so is Starbucks. They have a big tower. Not bad, but is it really impressive in terms of reputation? Many people won't know that either
NYC and LA and Boston and Philadelphia are either too huge to ignore or have actual history people can cling to a bit. San Francisco probably also gets a pass because of the bridge and Silicon Valley. Chicago and Vegas aren't hosts, but they are world famous as well, I'd say. But in general, your cities are a bit of a mystery box to Europeans for example since the cities are pretty young and lack historical monuments, leading to all of them being perceived as relatively similar. They all have downtowns with some skyscrapers, most of which look more or less the same, and they tend to sprawl a lot
(Also, I refuse to acknowledge East Rutherford as New York City)

Are there any cities or states in the USA that have only won the MLS Cup, and where all the NBA, MLB, NHL, and NFL teams have empty trophy cases?

>>152356179
it sounds like you understand.
>flyover states=bland and nothing notable happening
>chicago is exception

>East Rutherford
Im from new jersey and this one gave me a chuckle

>>152356141
It's a humiliation ritual indeed for Kansas
But I'm autistic enough to know Kansas has like 3,000,000 inhabitants, which means it's probably like 30th to 35th among all states
So if Kansas is empty, what is Wyoming? Giga empty? Alaska gets a pass, I suppose

>>152356291
>Wyoming? Giga empty?
yeah. spot on

>>152356264
Is Texas flyover? Can't be, right? It comes off as culturally distinct and is only exceeded in population by California. It also has coastline
Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa and shit ... I suppose I get that. All flat as fuck, cornfields, straight line borders. Feels very interchangeable. Or so I've heard

Any time I’ve been in trouble I knew I wasn’t in Kansas anymore.

>>152356584
probably at least 90% of it, yeah for sure

>>152356179
AFAIK the Dallas stadium isn't in Dallas either.

>>152356772
Yeah, it's in Arlington, a suburb
I don't think they build many of their stadiums in the actual cities. The Boston one is also far away, and I think the San Francisco one is like 50 kilometers away or some shit

>>152356772
>>152356826
ye. cheaper real estate and expenses, but still charge an arm and a leg for tickets

>>152356291
Kansas is bottom 10 in terms of population density. The other states that low have a variety of neutral beauty. Kansas doesn't. It's just flat farmland with nothing natural or manmade to break up the monotony. It's just an extremely anonymous state to be in

>>152356909
Kind of makes sense if you need a lot of space. But it also is ridiculous to pretend it's still the city in that context. Must be a nightmare to get to as well
Not like you absolutely have to do it as close to a city center as possible, but the NYC one and the San Francisco one are kind of shameless

>>152356826
>I don't think they build many of their stadiums in the actual cities

They actually do, if you look up the majority of nfl stadiums they are within the city limits of the actual major cities. Arrowhead for example is in Kansas City and (new) Mile High is in Denver. But yeah it seems to be a trend that the new soulless stadiums are all in lower cost suburbs because billionaires are cheap bastards and use moving the stadiums as black mail to get free money from tax payers.

The new Soldier Field will not be in Chicago or same for the new Cleveland stadium. Generally it seems a lot of stadiums built in the 2000s or later are not in the city limits.

>>152357224
Yeah, it adds up. The older a stadium, the more likely it is in the city, perhaps even the center. Nowadays, the owners all want to "develop the environment" (i.e. build 1000 shops next to the stadium) or something. And save money, as you've said
Despite having no owner, Bayern built their stadium in the middle of nowhere, that was in 2005. Still in Munich, but it hardly counts. They get clowned hard for it by other fans, especially since it means the stadium has no real name - only the sponsor name. It's thankfully the only example here I can think of. Although Hertha BSC is kind of similar: the Olympic Stadium is relatively far from the city center and many people think the club would be in a better place if they had stayed in Gesundbrunnen, a central part of the city where their first real stadium stood. But they wanted the big venue. Building an Olympic Stadium and park, which all takes a lot of space, decades before a club decides to move there is a bit different, of course

>>152355475
I only know pop culture trivia

>>152355475
There's a reason why they call it Misery

From a sports perspective, what's the ideal city in the USA for a man who hates the Kansas City Chiefs, hates the Atlanta Braves, hates the Chicago Blackhawks, hates the New Jersey Devils, and hates the NFL, MLB, and NHL in general?

>>152357716
The worst parts of St. Louis are in Illinois and the worst parts of Kansas City are in Kansas

>>152355475
They’ll learn what Ichiro learned about summers in Kansas City

>>152355652
>It's on the Kansas River.
It's on the Missouri River where the Kansas River (much smaller of the two) flows into it

>>152358252
>The worst parts of St. Louis are in Illinois and the worst parts of Kansas City are in Kansas
Based offloaders

>>152357561
>. Building an Olympic Stadium and park,

The olympics are an even bigger scam than moving stadiums to suburbs imo. I have no idea why anyone wants them after what happened in Montreal or South Africa.

>>152358370
Ah yeah, true. Forgot about the Missouri. But it is on the Kansas River as well after all, right? It was my personal self-confirmation to explain why Kansas City is not (really) in Kansas. Sure, the Missouri is the bigger and more important one, but if Kansas City is not in Kansas and not defined by the Kansas River, then it shouldn't be called Kansas City
The Missouri being larger than the Mississippi but still having to cede the name is more forgiveable, I assume the river was named that way before people realized the Missouri exists and is larger

>>152358252
wrong, the kansas side is where all the rich neighborhoods are

>>152355652
they had an NHL team (Scouts, now NJ Devils) and NBA team (Kings) but neither lasted long. The Athletics also played there for a bit

>>152358712
Fucking devils
>>152357745

>>152358625
The city limits go right to the state line of Kansas. The Missouri is longer than the Mississippi by 1 miles but the Mississippi dwarfs it in volume

>>152358659
I heard everyone bragging about Overland Park and Olathe and the others but they were just generic suburban cities. You could tell they were wealthy but overall really bland considering the incomes of the residents.

>>152358503
The 1936 were objectively a success ... not in hindsight, of course
They can easily be a scam nowadays because IOC is very despotic, and because it is a challenging project involving many cooks who can spoil the broth. But I think it can work as well, it can be a good impulse for investments and improvements, mostly regarding infrastructure. And it can kickstart growth regarding sports facilities and participation. And it can be excellent marketing still. With good planning and non-megalomaniac spending strengthening already existing structures, it's definitely possible to emerge as a winner. But it's hard for sure. And the IOC always wins anyway and gets most of the profit, which sucks for cities (and the athletes)
I want Germany to host again in 2040 or 2044. Either in Hamburg or Cologne (it would be the entire Rhine-Ruhr agglomeration then). I think it's worth the risk - unless Berlin gets to host, then we are fucked because Berlin never gets anything done on time and at the planned price ... let alone in good quality

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>>152358848
It'd be cool to tour all the abandoned Olympic stadiums around the world, but I wouldn't want to have to pay all those billions for something that's getting used for a few weeks and then being left to rot forever

>>152358503
South Africa never hosted the Olympics
And there are plenty of cities who have profited from Olympic Games because of overall marketing/tourism boosts, infrastructure improvements, and the sports facilities. You just have to be sustainable and not retarded. But you are right, this is increasingly hard in this grift world. Especially because the IOC is greedy as fuck and has tons of expensive rules in place to ensure their asses get pampered

>>152358823
yes it's fine to call OP and Olathe and Lenexa generic suburban cities but it's wrong to call the kansas side the "worst side" because honestly there's no where in kansas as bad as the area around troost, paseo, etc.

>>152359262
i would blame that more on long term planning failures of the city hosting them than the ioc themselves. and im not trying to argue the ioc isnt greedy or corrupt as fuck. but many countries/cities have been able to leverage the opportunity of hosting the olympics into grass roots funding for sports development. barcelona, sydney, nagano, vancouver, turin are all places that had a positive impact from hosting the olympics, but people will always be quick to point to montreal or sochi as proof of concrete failure.

>>152359262
Very true in general, there is way too much waste.
But that's mostly the problem if states want to host the Olympics just for clout. Qatar for example also wants to have them. But just like it's too small to handle 12 large stadiums needed for a World Cup once the tournament is over, it can't handle all these Olympic facilities. They don't care, though. They would let most stuff decay afterward. Even though things like the Olympic Village can easily be turned into nice living space, and even many sports facilities could be transformed if you plan it right. The best thing obviously is having a lot in place already and only refurbishing things if that's needed. That's the plan of Cologne/Rhine-Ruhr for example. To name an example: the city of Aachen is like an hour away from Cologne, it is called the world capital of equestrian sports and has the largest (non-racing) stadium for horse sports in the world. So they would hold the horse stuff there.
The Olympic area is one of the nicest parts of Munich, and basically everything sports-related still is in use. The 1972 Games definitely helped Munich a lot - despite the ... unforeseen mishappening during the actual event. Berlin is similar, although the facilities are very old now. I can't talk for other countries, but there must be other examples
The problem mostly is that the IOC makes it expensive as fuck to get VIP treatment, and they bag most of the profit. That leaves too many autocratic shitholes without actual sports culture or plans to use everything beyond the event competing for the Olympics. The other end of the deal is the planners themselves. If they are incompetent, the entire thing can be ruined rather quickly. Unfortunately, the IOC seems to downright demand dumbass plans sometimes

You have to plan right. And you have to WANT to plan it right. Then it's a big boost that's worth the money

>>152355475
I understand why one middle of the country city had to be picked, I do not understand how KC was picked over Denver. Denver’s infrastructure to support a massive surge in tourism and demand is infinitely higher than KC’s having lived and worked in both. Neither city is itself remarkable but Denver is right next to the Rocky Mountains and world-renowned nature tourism, KC is next to farmland. None of this makes any sense. The airport difference alone should have disqualified KC.

>>152360168
KC was willing to pay more in bribes

That's how selections like this work

Middle America is a fucking waste, there should only be 5 or 6 megacities in America and everyone else should be moved there at gunpoint. Robots can do all the farming now.

It would be better for sports too since teams wouldn't have to travel and you could have real cross town rivalries, in both pro sports and college. Everyone would have better access to facilities, no one living in the middle of nowhere.

>>152356584
Texas isnt flyover. Only the true true Midwest is like you mentioned

>>152360990
Pure cope. NYC and LA are the only places that are definitively not flyover. You can argue either way for DC and the Bay Area. Everything else is flyover.

Who gives a shit about the world cup?

>>152361081
Obviously you do for being in a World Cup thread, retard

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>>152359567
The problem with Kansas is that it's full of Kansans

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I know it has a shuffle

>>152355475
How come chicongo isn't a host city?

>>152363858
too much crime

>>152355503
>I wonder if they know it's not in Kansas.
Ah fuck. Alright I'll get a refund. Try again. Arkansas? Whatever, fine, sounds about right

This is what foreigners need to know: Lamar Hunt, the founder of MLS and the reason soccer is popular at all in America, based his family and sports empire in KC in the 1960s.

>>152355503
Even our dumbass president didn't know that

The World Cup final being at MetLife is actually criminal, I feel so bad for soccer fans, someone's gonna tear an Achilles

>>152365625
We are talking stadiums in the US like it’s some type of hellish land, but no one is bringing up that fucking Mexico is also hosting it. The amount of people who are going to get kidnapped or killed just to see a World Cup game there will be incredible. I have no clue how one of the most unsafe nations in the world got the chance to host the World Cup.

>>152365625
>someone's gonna tear an Achilles
I'd imagine they'll swap in a natural grass pitch for the final: it only has to last for 90 minutes, plus however long they need to rig it for Messi.

>>152355475
sneaky sound system had a song about it. that's about it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niLorSGV1B4

>>152365852
Was literally going to post this exact video

>>152355503
I learnt that from the rapper Tech N9ne, who is from there. I think it's on the border, though, like how Minneapolis has another city that's just as big right next to it but which nobody ever mentions or has heard of.

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>>152358823
>Overland Park
Never heard of it, but I looked it up and /epl/chads win again.

>>152359901
>The 1972 Games definitely helped Munich a lot - despite the ... unforeseen mishappening during the actual event.
Has Germany ever hosted an Olympics that wasn't massively controversial for some reason? 1936 had le based and redpilled man, 1972 had le based and redpilled terrorism...if I was the IOC, I might just refuse to let Germany ever host it again.

>>152365562
Seeing as MLS is a closed league with no promotion and relegation linking it to grass roots amateur level he doomed American Sawker

>>152366824
We are victims of the circumstances. 1936 was good, but then everybody decided it was too much later on. So 1972 was supposed to be a giant kumbaya singing session where everyone hugs each other so that no one but that feels uncomfortable … but then that got exploited
Third time‘s a charm. We will either nail it or end the world

Kansas City is the fag capital of the world

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>>152365611
kek

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>>152357224
>Arrowhead for example is in Kansas City
Hardly

Seattle, Detroit, New Orleans, Atlanta, Pittsburgh, Charlotte and Nashville's stadiums are all very close to their downtown cores off the top of my head

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>Let's pay one of the most acclaimed underground rappers to make a song about his hometown for the World Cup
>Great idea, Gianni, but make sure he doesn't write any lyrics or do any rapping
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErOLb6W_MEw

>>152367838
wrong that's actually Tel Aviv

>>152356228
Atlanta?

>>152357745
can you please eat a bullet?

>>152363961
I get that, but is it really that much worse than all the others?

>>152363858
Their stadium is kinda small. Plus they don't want any repeat venues from 1994

if theres kansas and arkansas then why is latter pronounced arkansaw and the former not kansaw?

>>152379882
I gotchu, senpai. It's all in here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RzEZYsFOpc

>>152356826
Hell, Both Jets and Giants aren't within New York

>>152355888
>Thats the closest the mob bosses can get to Vegas in Casino
Came to post this

>>152360468
Thanks for the input Klaus Schwab

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>>152360468
>Middle America is a fucking waste
easily the most based post on /sp/ of all time, and in the running for all site

>>152388931
you VILL live in ze bay area and you VILL be happy

>>152368325
Arrowhead is within KCMO city limits :)

>>152355475
KC is pretty much the soccer capital of America.

In 2010 I went to the power and light district to watch the World Cup. A million showed up. It was the largest gathering of American soccer fans in history.

>>152359901
The biggest upside of hosting the Olympics is that you can clear out the bums and migrants. Nobody makes a stink about it. Brussels was flooded when Paris cleaned house ahead of the Olympics. I see you want Germany to do the same.

>>152391606
I do, yes. Plenty of work ahead, to say the least

I like wild west history and apparently there's a really good riverboat museum there

>>152390534
I thought it was in Blue Springs. Maybe the city bought the land?

>>152391714
Westgate is the start of the Oregon Trail. There are stretches of the original wagon trail preserved in the area

>>152391606
LA did a good job of that in '84. Ueberroth got a little grief about it but not all that much.

>>152391606
>>152391790
Atlanta did the same. The 96 games were great for the state of Georgia, they got a lot of gibs from the feds to build new stuff and fix old stuff... the land the Olympic park sits on was a literal slum before the games

I lived there for a while for work and it was alright.

I lived in Grandview. It was a suburb of about 10-15k and got taken over by a megachurch which owns the whole town.

i don't think americans know much about kansas city either

>>152366448
Yes, Minneapolis is next to St. Paul. St. Paul is only known for being the actual capital of Minnesota and that's it

>>152368276
The Chiefs have most of their fans in Kansas doe

>>152379882
AMERICA EXPLAIN

KC is unironically flyover land

>>152397697
>doe
shut the fuck up

>>152379882
The French
Same reason Illinois is pronounced like that

I got a royals hat when I was young and immortal technique signed it at a show

>>152355475
Its in Kansas!

>>152402031
retard

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>OH, KANSAS CITY!
>GOING TO GET MY BABY BACK HOME!

Anyway, for some reason, I always assumed it was a larger cowboy city. A mix of Nashville and Dallas, perhaps.

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>>152356584

They murdered a family of 4 and drove 400 miles back to Kansas City… and they did it… in cold blood

>>152403839
Bit generous to Maryland, is it not? Baltimore is nothing to write home about, and if it’s about the agencies from DC sitting there (which seems generous to me), you might as well give the green status to Virginia

>>152403839
Oregon is really irrelevant considering its location

>>152403811
Absolutely not. But they have a big rodeo every year and the barbecue is good

>>152355475
One of our WC match will be played there

>>152356584
everything between NYC and LA is a flyover

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>last time I got high, I was in Kansas city...and I got high because I was in Kansas city...it was shitty