>>152384921he never was in the first place
>>152384921Never has beenNo need to hate him, he's a good driver and has his place as a legend secured. But he always had it very lucky and still got dabbed on too often at the end of the day
GOAT of picking the cheat engine in the era of cheat engines. That's it. Probably not even top 3 in most of his title winning years just had the luck of all his rivals being in cars literally +1s slower for most of a decade.
>>152384936>>152385220Is there a statistical proof of this, like how the number of titles and wins records are used for proof to claim he's the GOAT? I know Verstappen will probably break these records soon and it will be a moot point, but in the meantime, what's the evidence against him?
>>152390220He has a lower win percentage than Schumacher, for example. Despite most people agreeing that Hamilton's Mercedes era cars were the most dominant everAlso, Schumacher has a considerably higher pole-to-win ratio than both Schumacher and Verstappen. Generally, it is said that having more poles and fewer wins means you rely on your car's power more than othersThat's the entry level stuff. Honestly, I'm afraid we have to keep it limited to drivers who at least partially spent their career in the 21st century, because F1 has changed so much since the 60s
>>152391812Äh, sorry. Schumacher and Verstappen have more wins in relation to poles, and that's arguably a sign of better racing craft
>>152384921Hes the fucking goat
>>152390220GOAT debates are dumb in general. Especially in F1, where a lot hinges on the car. Some drivers have a bigger influence on the car's development than others, but we can hardly tell. Also, while it's already incredibly hard to compare different eras in every sport, F1 is the peak. The difference between the 60s and the 80s and the 80s and now is gigantic. How the cars look, handle, perform. The tracks. The tactics. The dataRealistically, you can only somewhat speak for generationsIn the somewhat modern era, it seems to be between Hamilton and Schumacher. They have seven titles each. Hamilton has more race wins and lead laps, but mostly because F1 seasons are longer now. Considerably longer, like 50%. So you can get more wins with a dominant car. As >>152391812 has said, Hamilton has a lower win percentage, and his pole:win ratio can be used against him.Titles and points and lead laps obviously aren't everything. Vettel has four WDCs and is top five in every of these stats, but most people would say Alonso is the better driver all in all. You don't even have to be an Alonso fanboy for thatYou can spin most stats both ways, and that's before you get to how they came to be. 2000s Schumi was dominant as fuck and had an overpowered car, but 2010s Hamilton had at least as much of a rocketship. And Hamilton arguably spent his entire career in very good cars, moreso than Schumacher, whose Mercedes end (as an old man who shouldn't have come back anyway) and Jordan/Benetton beginnings were more rocky - as were his early Ferrari days. Harder than late 2000s McLaren and then 2010s MercedesHamilton also got defeated by more teammates than Schumacher. Rosberg beat him in 2016 (and he's the only guy to beat both Hamilton and Schumacher, though Schumacher was ancient then), Russell beat him, and now so did Leclerc. In poles and in pointsBoth are good. Hamilton has the absolute numbers, but if you look closer, it's complicated
>>152391812>>152392351Thanks. I appreciate the detailed responses.
I think you're forgetting someone
>>152392351>but if you look closer, it's complicatedlol "complicated".hamilton could exploit an engine formula (the hybrid era) which mercedes deliberately lobbied as the only alternative to the tune of millions of euros and unprecedented political pressure on governing bodies.schumacher left mercedes in his youth to put benetton and ferrari on the map of the competition, the latter coming from 20+ years of jackshit, all while challenged by sporting regulations devised solely to interrupt his generational set of skills.in terms of crystal-clear talent there is no debate: one driver was three seconds per lap faster in wet conditions because he was simply otherworldly, while the other constantly needed psychological support, special treatment from FIA and a crane to get him back on track.
>>152384921(((They))) Do not want a black man to be the GOAT and face of F1. It's like saying a white man should be the GOAT of the NBA, hence the 2021 robbery.
He sure is the GOAT when it comes to triggering incelchuds into autistic rage.
>>152384921car babby
schumacher is considered the best
>>152384921why are all mutts zesty faggots
A bald faggot.
>>152402672This post is extremely low quality.
How can he NOT be the GOAT? STATISTICALLY the best. He beat everybody.
no GOAT can lose to a team mate over an entire season. imagine Schumacher losing to Barrichello or Irvine over a whole season. Rosberg completely obliterates the idea of it.
We need to slam Hamilton and Verstappen into a tree so we can identify the true GOAT of survival
>>152403331He also lost one season to Button at McLaren, but funnily enough it is never brought up
He’s the GOAT of making mediocre white men seethe
He visited Namibia when I was there and the locals thought he was an asshole lol.
>>152384921He's bring back BOSS posting, so that's a win in my eyes.
>>152403869BasedMy goat
>>152403142>He beat everybody.No he didnt KEK
>>152403142His only competition when at Mercedes was your boy Bottas, who is a complete wet blanket of a driver
>>152390220He beated old drivers and these drivers were at their prime against Schum
that spot is taken by Max. schumi comes second
>>152384921This nigga lookin' ZESTY, this nigga lookin' MOIST, he's got sugar in his tank, he's light on his feet, he's a Ill bit fruity, he plays for the other team, he dances at the other end of the ballroom, this nigga theatrical, this nigga good with colors, this nigga gonna coordinate yo curtains wit you cushions and that shit gonna look good! This nigga lifts shirts, this nigga on the down low, this nigga be a tollet trader, this nigga gardens uphill, this nigga packs fudge, he's a friend of Dorothy, he feels the love that dare not speak Its name, he loves to dance, he's of the Uranian brotherhood, he indulges in the French vice, he has an antipathic sexual Instinct, he's fluent in Polari, he's a refugee from Sodom, he's on the wrong bus, he bats for the other team, he's temperamental, he's 'one of if you catch my drift.
>>152404614>this post sponsored by tariq
>>152384921Is a athlete an car?
>>152402672Ok Hadjar now look forward to your cuck seat in 2026
