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You’ll never guess who’s leading the Bundesliga
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>>152460323
Ofc, Luis diaz is leading them to the title
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>+40 GD

This is worse than the point gap, desu
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>>152460323
Very funny posting last years table
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>>152460323
no way
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>3.77 goals scored on average
Perfectly normal league
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Was looking up the history of the Bundesliga and since the early 70s Bayern have never gone more than 3 seasons without winning a league. Why have they never had a proper challenger? Its a large wealthy country that loves football - where's the Barca to their Real, Liverpool to Utd etc?
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>>152460850
Bavarian supremacy
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>>152460838
backpassing ist verboten
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>>152460850
That's insane. I have no idea how anyone could enjoy watching a league like that.
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>>152460850
>>152460930
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_German_football_champions#Bundesliga_(since_1963)
So, they had 22 out of 49 before that 11 season win streak. 22/45 if you count from their first title. They didn't have a consistent competitor that would have 10-15 titles but it was still competitive. Germans probably wouldn't watch it if Bayern won 11 in a row straight away.
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>>152460323
People give the uber eats league a lot of flak but at least they have a different winner more frequently than bundes, RC Lens look solid and strongminded this season and don't have European distractions, still probably gonna end up another psgwinslol season but with all the games they've been playing this season and last and the amount they have to play for the remainder of this season, fatigue could be a factor
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>>152460850
Pep should go to dortmund, going to an underdog team will be the litmus test to see if he's truly a bald fraud or not
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>>152460878
Why are they so different?
What’s wrong with Berlin? Even before hitler that city was a shithole
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>>152460850
Bayern's 70s dominance was considered an anomaly, they came out of nowhere. It actually was a "soulful" ascend. Before that, German football was extremely balanced. Gladbach rose at the same time as Bayern, and everyone enjoyed seeing that rivalry between two clubs most people hadn't noticed that much before. Most people probably thought that things would even out soon enough, as that was the historic norm
Gladbach fell off, and Hamburg came along. They are the most logical rival to Bayern, they arguably were the biggest club pre-Bayern era and had absolutely everything needed to be up there for good. Unfortunately, they also proved to be the most retarded. So they fell off in the 90s. By then, the general setting was clear. But they always had their challengers. Until the 2000s, it wasn't that problematic. Everyone knew Bayern were the top dog all in all, but they had always had worthy rivals. Bayern also tended to win narrowly. They were not that far away from the rest all in all, but got acknowledged as the most clutch
In the 2000s, it began to annoy everyone. But then we had a brief era of balance again. In the late 2000s, multiple clubs had rightful hopes to win and dominante an era. Then came Klopp's Dortmund, just in time to disperse doubts for a bit. But unfortunately, Dortmund were too weak structurally to be a genuine challenger in the long run, they had barely escaped bankruptcy a few years prior. Bayern snatched their stars, plunging the league into its current state. Now it's really grim and makes the past look worse as well, but back then, it was still okay. The main problem is that Bayern actually were very competent for decades while the logical challengers (Hamburg, Köln, Frankfurt, Stuttgart, Dortmund, Hertha, even >Schalke) all had at least a few years of massive retardation that set them back a lot. And now, it's over for good because the modern money gap is too powerful
>>152460930
People like their own clubs
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>>152460323
>+40 GD
Is this Kane's work?
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>>152465283
>Bayern's 70s dominance was considered an anomaly, they came out of nowhere. It actually was a "soulful" ascend.
They were the first club to get on the marketing train in Germany. Also, they got a huge stadium for free, in time for the Munich olympics. Basically, they got showered in dosh at a time when money wasn't that big in football.
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>>152464869
Catholicism
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>>152460850
70s was the time when money and marketing begin to rule the football. Basically big rich cities clubs with big fanbases become dominant in every league. Sovful small clubs just didnt have the fanbase or the money to compete. Thats basically true for every european league
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>>152465283
Redpill me on Stuttgart, they seem to me the most underperforming club, considering Baden-Württemberg is the second richest state(?)
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>>152465825
It doesn't really work like that. Yes, Baden-Württemberg is wealthy (how wealthy in relation to the others is up to debate, but above average), but that doesn't mean a single club from there gets all the money. Karlsruhe, Mannheim, Freiburg ... there are other cities in that state, Stuttgart being the capital doesn't mean all the money goes there. And they're not super rich compared to everyone else
But: Stuttgart is a major city and has a lot of rich industry. That means many good sponsors. And in the region of Swabia (the Württemberg half of Baden-Württemberg, plus some more), they are the biggest club by far, giving them a lot of fan power. So yes, they do have a lot of potential. They are a great traditional club, very cool guys in my opinion. They also had their retard era a few years ago, got relegated, made it back, almost got relegated again with a stacked squad ... but then they hired their current manager who ended up unlocking them, leading them into international football. They are currently Top 5 material and could achieve even more if things go right. But the further you get, the harder the climb
I wouldn't call them the most under-performing. Especially right now. Hamburg is worse for sure, and Hertha BSC is the prime example, though their situation might be explained the easiest. Köln would also come to mind.

What else do you want to know?
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>>152460850
no one wants to admit it, but the 50+1 rule has no actual benefit for other teams than virtue signalling
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Krauts ran out of excuses and just tell you to not watch as if this nationwide humiliation is a private matter only they understand
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This shit legitimately needs the chiqui tapia treatment

>30 teams in top tier
>split into 2 groups of 15
>playoffs with top 16
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>>152466230
>make your league super convoluted to hide the fact that its a shitshow
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>>152460878
you're not bavarian timmy
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do bavarians go hard into soccer because of an inferiority complex due to losing to protestants?
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>>152466180
It is secured mediocrity, less risk but also no super chances. But it keeps the clubs' identities intact, and that's what the fans want. It does not prevent investors or sponsors, how could it? I think it's based for preventing multi-club-ownership bullshit. But the major flaw is that they allowed exceptions you now can't get rid of
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>>152460323
I would like the league to be more balanced
I understand that you foreigners don't want to watch it
But I only care about my club. If >we are doing well, I don't give a shit about the rest. Also, it's a good sign that the league is making such a high revenue basically without international attention. The foundations are solid. Yes, Bayern winning all the time sucks, I would change that in an instant if I could. But I can't, and people will continue watching because it's their clubs playing. It still makes sense if you're from here. The rest does not matter, it's a nice add-on at bes
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>>152466180
There are more examples where a sellout of a club ruined it then boosting him. I rather focus on my club an it succes insted of losing our indetity to some incompetent millionairs
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We wish that the Blundershitga
We wish that the Blundershitga
We wish that the Blundershitga can fuck off and die

Bayern rapes your league, and you krauts just let them
We wish that the Blundershitga can fuck off and die

Oh, let Bayern buy your players
Oh, let Bayern buy your players
Oh, let Bayern buy your players
and thank them like cucks

Bayern rapes your league, and you krauts just let them
We wish that the Blundershitga can fuck off and die

Tradition und fünfzig plus eins
Tradition und fünfzig plus eins
Tradition und fünfzig plus eins
is so fucking gay

Bayern rapes your league, and you krauts just let them
We wish that the Blundershitga can fuck off and die

Let Bayern fuck your Arschloch
Let Bayern fuck your Arschloch
Let Bayern fuck your Arschloch
"At least Bayern are strong"

Bayern rapes your league, and you krauts just let them
We wish that the Blundershitga can fuck off and die
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>>152460323
>more GD than the entire table combined
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Meanwhile, in the SUPERIOR COMPETITIVE ligue (it means league)
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>>152466252
basically
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you'll never guess who is leading the premier league and is gonna end 2nd at the end of the season anyway like the chokers they always are
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>>152466368
>the foundations are solid
>one team wins it all the time
pick one retard
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>>152460429
kek
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>>152460850
I've always thought Bremen was their main competitor during the 2000s
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>>152460429
kek
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>>152481855
More or less, yeah. Not the entire decade, but overall, yes. They had a golden generation. Unfortunately, Bremen is one of these clubs that cannot reach these heights for good. They maxed out right there, basically
>>152475843
The league is financially solid and has great domestic fan support despite that. It also still is at least the fourth-best league in the world in terms of quality, maybe better. No one denies it sucks for foreigners and could be much better, but if that's rock bottom, then we should be somewhat grateful
Untermensch
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>>152465283
I feel like geography makes Bayerns dominance almost inevitable anyway. Bavaria is the richest region in Germany and Bayern has pretty much no rivals anywhere since the death of 1860 so even without foreign customers they would always be the richest club in the league
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>>152483357
It's not like Bavaria being the economically most prosperous state means others have no chance. Berlin is somewhat excused, the city has always been a mess and in a terrible situation until reunification. But Hamburg for example has a lot of capital as well (and is larger than Munich), Frankfurt is a global commerce and finance hub, Stuttgart has tons of powerful industrial companies. NRW clubs are at a bit of a disadvantage because there are so many of them that they take away from each other's growth
Bayern has a lot of fan reach in all of southern Germany. But considering their absolute clown era, Hamburg is even more impressive - you can find HSV fans everywhere in the northern half of Germany, and even in the south, there are enough of them to fill a small stadium (in practice) when the opportunity arises (i.e., when they played Sandhausen some time ago, like 80% were HSV fans despite the actual away fans not getting that many extra tickets)
The wealth gap between Bavaria and the rest isn't so huge that no one can compete. Especially not historically. 30 years ago, Bavaria and various other regions were closer together
By now, they obviously get all the huge sponsors anyway because they are the serial winner
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>>152483553
I don't think it's really the capital what really matters but how many uncivilized middle/lower-class chuds you can find to sell TV packages/fan shit to, and obviously Bavaria tops that list by quite a large margin. Just like Barcelona they are pretty much almost like an unofficial national team for a very rich region that loves football, which is something that HSV or any other team cannot really have
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>>152460850
Bayern would dominate the prem too, they had too many autistic smart germans running the club (not sure you can say that nowadays)
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>>152484222
you're not german hunter



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