You’ll never guess who’s leading the Bundesliga
>>152460323Ofc, Luis diaz is leading them to the title
>+40 GDThis is worse than the point gap, desu
>>152460323Very funny posting last years table
>>152460323no way
>3.77 goals scored on averagePerfectly normal league
Was looking up the history of the Bundesliga and since the early 70s Bayern have never gone more than 3 seasons without winning a league. Why have they never had a proper challenger? Its a large wealthy country that loves football - where's the Barca to their Real, Liverpool to Utd etc?
>>152460850Bavarian supremacy
>>152460838backpassing ist verboten
>>152460850That's insane. I have no idea how anyone could enjoy watching a league like that.
>>152460850>>152460930>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_German_football_champions#Bundesliga_(since_1963)So, they had 22 out of 49 before that 11 season win streak. 22/45 if you count from their first title. They didn't have a consistent competitor that would have 10-15 titles but it was still competitive. Germans probably wouldn't watch it if Bayern won 11 in a row straight away.
>>152460323People give the uber eats league a lot of flak but at least they have a different winner more frequently than bundes, RC Lens look solid and strongminded this season and don't have European distractions, still probably gonna end up another psgwinslol season but with all the games they've been playing this season and last and the amount they have to play for the remainder of this season, fatigue could be a factor
>>152460850Pep should go to dortmund, going to an underdog team will be the litmus test to see if he's truly a bald fraud or not
>>152460878Why are they so different?What’s wrong with Berlin? Even before hitler that city was a shithole
>>152460850Bayern's 70s dominance was considered an anomaly, they came out of nowhere. It actually was a "soulful" ascend. Before that, German football was extremely balanced. Gladbach rose at the same time as Bayern, and everyone enjoyed seeing that rivalry between two clubs most people hadn't noticed that much before. Most people probably thought that things would even out soon enough, as that was the historic normGladbach fell off, and Hamburg came along. They are the most logical rival to Bayern, they arguably were the biggest club pre-Bayern era and had absolutely everything needed to be up there for good. Unfortunately, they also proved to be the most retarded. So they fell off in the 90s. By then, the general setting was clear. But they always had their challengers. Until the 2000s, it wasn't that problematic. Everyone knew Bayern were the top dog all in all, but they had always had worthy rivals. Bayern also tended to win narrowly. They were not that far away from the rest all in all, but got acknowledged as the most clutchIn the 2000s, it began to annoy everyone. But then we had a brief era of balance again. In the late 2000s, multiple clubs had rightful hopes to win and dominante an era. Then came Klopp's Dortmund, just in time to disperse doubts for a bit. But unfortunately, Dortmund were too weak structurally to be a genuine challenger in the long run, they had barely escaped bankruptcy a few years prior. Bayern snatched their stars, plunging the league into its current state. Now it's really grim and makes the past look worse as well, but back then, it was still okay. The main problem is that Bayern actually were very competent for decades while the logical challengers (Hamburg, Köln, Frankfurt, Stuttgart, Dortmund, Hertha, even >Schalke) all had at least a few years of massive retardation that set them back a lot. And now, it's over for good because the modern money gap is too powerful>>152460930People like their own clubs
>>152460323>+40 GDIs this Kane's work?
>>152465283>Bayern's 70s dominance was considered an anomaly, they came out of nowhere. It actually was a "soulful" ascend.They were the first club to get on the marketing train in Germany. Also, they got a huge stadium for free, in time for the Munich olympics. Basically, they got showered in dosh at a time when money wasn't that big in football.
>>152464869Catholicism
>>15246085070s was the time when money and marketing begin to rule the football. Basically big rich cities clubs with big fanbases become dominant in every league. Sovful small clubs just didnt have the fanbase or the money to compete. Thats basically true for every european league
>>152465283Redpill me on Stuttgart, they seem to me the most underperforming club, considering Baden-Württemberg is the second richest state(?)
>>152465825It doesn't really work like that. Yes, Baden-Württemberg is wealthy (how wealthy in relation to the others is up to debate, but above average), but that doesn't mean a single club from there gets all the money. Karlsruhe, Mannheim, Freiburg ... there are other cities in that state, Stuttgart being the capital doesn't mean all the money goes there. And they're not super rich compared to everyone elseBut: Stuttgart is a major city and has a lot of rich industry. That means many good sponsors. And in the region of Swabia (the Württemberg half of Baden-Württemberg, plus some more), they are the biggest club by far, giving them a lot of fan power. So yes, they do have a lot of potential. They are a great traditional club, very cool guys in my opinion. They also had their retard era a few years ago, got relegated, made it back, almost got relegated again with a stacked squad ... but then they hired their current manager who ended up unlocking them, leading them into international football. They are currently Top 5 material and could achieve even more if things go right. But the further you get, the harder the climbI wouldn't call them the most under-performing. Especially right now. Hamburg is worse for sure, and Hertha BSC is the prime example, though their situation might be explained the easiest. Köln would also come to mind.What else do you want to know?
>>152460850no one wants to admit it, but the 50+1 rule has no actual benefit for other teams than virtue signalling
Krauts ran out of excuses and just tell you to not watch as if this nationwide humiliation is a private matter only they understand
This shit legitimately needs the chiqui tapia treatment>30 teams in top tier>split into 2 groups of 15>playoffs with top 16
>>152466230>make your league super convoluted to hide the fact that its a shitshow
>>152460878you're not bavarian timmy
do bavarians go hard into soccer because of an inferiority complex due to losing to protestants?
>>152466180It is secured mediocrity, less risk but also no super chances. But it keeps the clubs' identities intact, and that's what the fans want. It does not prevent investors or sponsors, how could it? I think it's based for preventing multi-club-ownership bullshit. But the major flaw is that they allowed exceptions you now can't get rid of
>>152460323I would like the league to be more balancedI understand that you foreigners don't want to watch itBut I only care about my club. If >we are doing well, I don't give a shit about the rest. Also, it's a good sign that the league is making such a high revenue basically without international attention. The foundations are solid. Yes, Bayern winning all the time sucks, I would change that in an instant if I could. But I can't, and people will continue watching because it's their clubs playing. It still makes sense if you're from here. The rest does not matter, it's a nice add-on at bes
>>152466180There are more examples where a sellout of a club ruined it then boosting him. I rather focus on my club an it succes insted of losing our indetity to some incompetent millionairs
We wish that the BlundershitgaWe wish that the BlundershitgaWe wish that the Blundershitga can fuck off and dieBayern rapes your league, and you krauts just let themWe wish that the Blundershitga can fuck off and dieOh, let Bayern buy your playersOh, let Bayern buy your playersOh, let Bayern buy your playersand thank them like cucksBayern rapes your league, and you krauts just let themWe wish that the Blundershitga can fuck off and dieTradition und fünfzig plus einsTradition und fünfzig plus einsTradition und fünfzig plus einsis so fucking gayBayern rapes your league, and you krauts just let themWe wish that the Blundershitga can fuck off and dieLet Bayern fuck your ArschlochLet Bayern fuck your ArschlochLet Bayern fuck your Arschloch"At least Bayern are strong"Bayern rapes your league, and you krauts just let themWe wish that the Blundershitga can fuck off and die
>>152460323>more GD than the entire table combined
Meanwhile, in the SUPERIOR COMPETITIVE ligue (it means league)
>>152466252basically
you'll never guess who is leading the premier league and is gonna end 2nd at the end of the season anyway like the chokers they always are
>>152466368>the foundations are solid>one team wins it all the timepick one retard
>>152460429kek
>>152460850I've always thought Bremen was their main competitor during the 2000s
>>152481855More or less, yeah. Not the entire decade, but overall, yes. They had a golden generation. Unfortunately, Bremen is one of these clubs that cannot reach these heights for good. They maxed out right there, basically>>152475843The league is financially solid and has great domestic fan support despite that. It also still is at least the fourth-best league in the world in terms of quality, maybe better. No one denies it sucks for foreigners and could be much better, but if that's rock bottom, then we should be somewhat gratefulUntermensch
>>152465283I feel like geography makes Bayerns dominance almost inevitable anyway. Bavaria is the richest region in Germany and Bayern has pretty much no rivals anywhere since the death of 1860 so even without foreign customers they would always be the richest club in the league
>>152483357It's not like Bavaria being the economically most prosperous state means others have no chance. Berlin is somewhat excused, the city has always been a mess and in a terrible situation until reunification. But Hamburg for example has a lot of capital as well (and is larger than Munich), Frankfurt is a global commerce and finance hub, Stuttgart has tons of powerful industrial companies. NRW clubs are at a bit of a disadvantage because there are so many of them that they take away from each other's growthBayern has a lot of fan reach in all of southern Germany. But considering their absolute clown era, Hamburg is even more impressive - you can find HSV fans everywhere in the northern half of Germany, and even in the south, there are enough of them to fill a small stadium (in practice) when the opportunity arises (i.e., when they played Sandhausen some time ago, like 80% were HSV fans despite the actual away fans not getting that many extra tickets)The wealth gap between Bavaria and the rest isn't so huge that no one can compete. Especially not historically. 30 years ago, Bavaria and various other regions were closer togetherBy now, they obviously get all the huge sponsors anyway because they are the serial winner
>>152483553I don't think it's really the capital what really matters but how many uncivilized middle/lower-class chuds you can find to sell TV packages/fan shit to, and obviously Bavaria tops that list by quite a large margin. Just like Barcelona they are pretty much almost like an unofficial national team for a very rich region that loves football, which is something that HSV or any other team cannot really have
>>152460850Bayern would dominate the prem too, they had too many autistic smart germans running the club (not sure you can say that nowadays)
>>152484222you're not german hunter