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i always wonder how they come up with those insane valuations. they all seem extremely overinflated, i dont see anyone paying $6B for Las Vegas Raiders (whatever the fuck that is) much less paying it for ManUre

>>152522888
>>152522979
>6 billion for the fucking Raiders
Yeah there's no way this is real

I remember seeing one of these infographics years back that had Real Madrid valued about 3x the Cowboys. What happened? Is it all funny money or what?

>>152522979
>they all seem extremely overinflated
they're extreme lowballs, the yankees have a cash flow alone of 800 million a year, at standard dcf that should be an 8 bil valuation. if they were sold they'd go well into the double figure billions, if not 20

>>152523039
exchange rate. the euro's in the shitter cause the EU is a failed state.

>>152523039
Raiders are probably the most globally recognized NFL team. They sell a shit ton of merch internationally.

>>152522979
Combo of market, league, history, current revenues vs expenses, stadium and debt I would imagine.

>>152522888
This list is outdated. The Lakers are the most expensive team in the world now

>>152523312
The logo alone is worth more than it's supposed value

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>>152523317
Based retard

>>152522888
Yankees feel like more when they have the most popular headgear on the planet

>>152522888
>warriors worth a billy more than the lakers
lmao

>>152522888
America rocks

>>152522888
La liga is more valuable than the premier league?

Americans real prevalence comes from
average attendance, which is higher than most euro teams.

>>152522979
I will give you $500m to say that my online casino is good. Congrats, your sports team is now worth $500m.

>>152524939
higher than the top euro teams though?

>>152522888
Real estate is a big factor here. Billionaire owners also play all sorts of tricks. The rest comes from Americans being very consumption-friendly and the sports allowing a lot of ad time. Also, they are all franchises that function in systems all about generating profit, as opposed to football clubs that can get relegated or miss out on international competitions. That and the salary caps etc makes American franchises more stable and valuable
It’s a system question for the most part

Cowboys

>>152525080
My memory isnt that good but if i remember they are all borussia dortmund tier
Obviously they play less matches but still impressive.

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>OMG look at how much Mr Shekelstein can monetise my sports club!
>Think of the Shareholder value!!

This is a uniquely American cancer i've seen that is slowly starting to impact European sports discourse now.

Retards talking about TV ratings and shit as if anybody gives a fuck

>>152525478
Money and miles, mark

>>152522888
>dallas cowboys
wtf is that tho

>>152525499
Kill yourself yank, you are not a shareholder, stop viewing sports as a spreadsheet

>>152525513
professional rodeo team

>>152523039
They’re the de facto team for browns nationwide

>>152525080
Pretty sure it’s just a matter of capacity and teams often being the only one of their respective sport in town. 1994 still towers above for the World Cup attendance record even after more matches were added in later years because the average stadium capacity was about 15,000 larger than 2nd place

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>>152525080

>>152523375
nah, it's probably the Cowboys or Patriots

>>152526746
League-wise, your average attendance is insane for sure. A large country with many major agglomerations where teams can plan long-term and build stadiums as they please. Here for example, building a stadium is a more risky move, and you cannot expect any club with vague Bundesliga ambitions in the 2nd tier to have a >50,000 seat stadium, already because not every club has this much pull they can calculate with. But the cream of the crop of football can obviously surpass the NFL. On league average, though, it is downright impossible
Attendance has become a bit of a meme anyway. Borussia Dortmund averages 81,500 every game, they could fit in considerably more if they had a stadium of the right size. But they probably make half the money from stadium guests as the least profitable NFL team in this regard, simply because ticket prices are so low here and because they have comparatively few (and old) VIP boxes and all that modern consumerism stuff
Meanwhile, NFL franchises have begun to build their new stadiums smaller in capacity but filled to the brim with commercial venues - and the lower amount of seats means they can charge even more for tickets, making them more profit. That would obviously never fly here. The only football league that could even think of doing that is the Premier League

Side note: FUCK this Captcha bullshit, holy shit. We're approaching the moment when getting fucked by sexbots will be the more reasonable choice

>>152523375
Raiders look very generic to me as an outsider, and they don't seem to be that successful either in recent years?
I think the Patriots are probably the most recognized overall, but zoomies might be all about the Chiefs. But I'm just deciding this on gut feeling, recent success, and how recognizable the logo is

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>>152522888
>Lelkers

>>152527231
>they probably make half the money from stadium guests as the least profitable NFL team in this regard, simply because ticket prices are so low here and because they have comparatively few (and old) VIP boxes and all that modern consumerism stuff

Not really an argument since if Dortmund raised ticket prices, the fans would not attend in such high numbers.

>>152522888
team that hasn't won anything in 35 years is the most valuable.

>>152526746
>2015

>>152527304
I'm just saying that attendance alone isn't very powerful in the profit department anymore. I said Dortmund makes much less than NFL teams because of low ticket prices and less amenities. That's simply true, it wasn't intended to be an argument for anything. But yes, you are also right
Dortmund could charge a bit more and still fill the stadium, but fans would get mad. And they can never approach NFL prices without the entire club leadership getting mauled, that's for sure

>>152522888
>most popular sport in the world
>most valuable team mogged by the nfl which is only popular in one country

>>152527372
If football bigwigs could, they would remodel the entire football world in the NFLs image and make ungodly amounts of money that would dwarf your leagues, even though yours would remain very impressive per capita because the average American likes spending so much. But they can't, football is too multipolar and not primed for profit in total (no closed leagues, no caps, the classic ad break stuff, etc)

>>152523039
The Vegas move turned them from one of the poorest franchises to one of the richest

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>>152527274
>they don't seem to be that successful either in recent years?
They've been one of the worst teams for decades

>>152523375
>Raiders are probably the most globally recognized NFL team
Brown hands typed this. Nowhere near Packers, Steelers, Patriots, Cowboys, 49ers hell I would argue even the Ravens and Dolphins are more globally recognized.
>They sell a shit ton of merch internationally
Source? Im betting south america counts for over 75% of that kek

most popular sports team in the world?

yes very easy for anyone who has travelled

>>152522888
>jeets
>redskins

the dallas cowboys american football team are huge in india and china

>>152525478
Video games, movies, TV, etc etc. Its fucking pathetic when fans are cheering on how many sales a video game got, or how many people watched the movie.

Its gross and you are a fag if you worry about this shit.
My enjoyment of a movie has 0 to do with how many people streamed it on netflix. Something genuinely wrong with the people who do care.

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>>152522888
George Steinbrenner bought the New York Yankees for $10 million from CBS in 1973. Amazing.

>>152524930
No, but La Liga's biggest 2 or 3 clubs are bigger than the EPL's biggest. The next 17-18 are bigger in Bongland tho.

>>152522888
This list is bullshit. The Lakers were just sold for $10 billion in June.

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>>152528837
nta but Raiders do seem to be kinda popular globally. Patriots and Cowboys aren't even in the picture

>>152529078
It's the logo, gotta be.

>>152522888
>no doyers
KEK

>>152523375
calling mexico "international" is a stretch

>>152529143
The Patriots, Niners, and Steelers are more popular than the raiders in Mexico

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I still start having heart attack symptoms whenever I see Cairo Santos have to come out and kick. Im so beyond hype for my burrs right now but this thing i have is psychologically a legit ptsd reaction. A superbowl win will feel like a decade of CBT

is it true that NFC South is going to again be the only conference in history to send a sub .500 team to the playoffs?

>>152529155
you've never been to Los Angeles, Mexico then

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>>152529155
Raiders are more popular than the Patriots in almost all states, but 49ers dominate that country.

It is funny that all these football teams RENT their home stadiums. Not even legendary football teams can own a home these days. I blame the boomers

>>152529176
Which team? There are still 3 games... thangs happen

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figured you guys needed a laugh

>>152529220
if you think the bucs or pants are finishing above .500, I have a bridge to sell you in NYC

Broncos and rams are both loosing next week. Bears against packers at soldier field is basically the bears superbowl thisnyear so thatnisngonna better beat ganenofnthe season possibly. Bears win. Patriots are gonna have a shocking loss and bills gonna crush whoever they are playing off Allen's back alone. Darnoldnis tearing an acl, and jags gonna win but no one will care. Texans will tie, phillymgonna have the ugliest win of their time.with Jalen

Cant friggin waittttt

Kittle says Purdy is Satanic

https://youtube.com/shorts/4OWt-ua-FD0

>>152529275
Not a brownie or a buckyqueer but I love baker Mayfield. Would succ

>>152522888
Crazy numbers
My favorite club used to be among the Top 15-20 football clubs in revenue and overall value ... 10 years ago. Then they left their retard era and entered their massive retard era. Now it's about clawing yourself back, they even make more money than 10 years ago despite being in a worse position because of damage received in the last decade. And yet they are nowhere near the Top 20 as of now. The numbers have gone up a lot in recent years

>>152529326
inflation moved all the numbers a lot

>>152529305
pats losing isn't a shocker to anyone, their winning SoS is 0.250, they haven't beaten anyone

>>152529225
>1, 3, 4, 5, 6
very lul worthy, ty

>>152529326
Schalke?

>>152529382
Idk i might be shocked. Ravens are doing something goofy and mysterious.

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>>152529225
The hits keep on coming.

>>152529444
Hamburg

>>152529486
Good guess though, heh. It could have been both

Rams had one of the easiest schedules this year. Wouldn't think that last year but ended up being that way. Them, donkeys and pats are shitting themselves come playoff time, they will finally play good teams and not in a week 2 situation. Chargers making it to championship game because of that wild thornberries looking kicker they have

>>152529473
It took Trevor 5 years to develope, he was too busy doing mocap for gtavi

>>152522888
dumbass

>>152529078
>>152529202
>posting jewgle data
Raidurr fag trying to make his irrelevant franchise look popular kek

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>>152529522
>Rams had one of the easiest schedules this year
Compared to whom?

>>152525534
Uh actually I am, Ahmed. I’m a proud shareholder of the Green Bay Packers as are hundreds of thousands of others in Packers nation.

>>152529564
they just make shit up and hope it sticks

they hate the idea that the pats and broncos are being slurped but have played 4th place records because of how shit they were last year

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>>152527339
>the sports world is vastly different from 9 years ago

>>152529486
You're one of my favorite anons on here

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who is earning the asterisk?

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Is he finally elite or just on the cusp?

>>152529634
neither

>>152529589
that guy clearly just says retarded shit for attention. I know its the best play in the sports media personality playbook.

>>152529634
>>152529473
>play shitty team
>put up points
>zomg elite put him in the hof immediately
calm down, Shedeur

>>152529634
still lacks dawg

>>152529644
but enough about Stephen A Smith

>>152529143
As a certified mexican I can tell you that nobody knows who the fuck the Raiders are.

>>152529564
The "good teams" they had to play this year ended up sucking ass this year. The rest are mid or straight ass

>>152529746
the image youre replying to is the teams they played current record, not last years

>>152529584
You may or may not be confusing me with someone else, there are a few of us here. At least five, plus a Brazilian and a Frenchman
But thank you in any case, sincerely (if you were serious)

>>152529758
They played lions after the lions lost their magic, and played the jags and texans before they got their shit together.

>>152529846
>casually moves the goalpost

>>152529803
No, no. It's certainly you. You've replied to me before some years ago. Gladbach was leading the table at winter and you basically told me they had no chance anyways and would lose the lead to Bayern.