Not to downplay, but what about percent of the seats filled?
To me this just looks like which stadiums are the largest or how much revenue per fan is there

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Honestly gonna be sad once we leave /bestbundes/ after this season

>>152639060
For the Bundesliga: Wolfsburg is at like 80% Hoffenheim at 90% (infamous for being away fans‘ paradise - the big clubs usually fill more than half of the stadium), and the Uber plastic guys at Leipzig are officially at 97% but play some dumb tricks with „combi-tickets“ or some shit where they basically sell tickets for games against Bayern and Villageville combined and then say the stadium is full even if no one shows for for the latter game.
Mainz, Heidenheim, and Augsburg are at ~96%, everyone else is at 100% or 99.x%
Bayern, Dortmund, Hamburg, Frankfurt, Köln, and Stuttgart could easily sell >10,000 more tickets each for every game if they had bigger stadiums
Revenue per fan in the Bundesliga is relatively low because tickets are kept pretty cheap
In the 2nd Bundesliga, stadiums are smaller on average, but there are many big clubs with big stadiums. Hertha, Düsseldorf, Schalke, Kaiserslautern, Hannover, and Nürnberg have 50,000 seats or more. Schalke and to a lesser degree Kaiserslautern reliably fill their stadium, the others are a bit more fickle. Nürnberg averages like 36,000 with a max capacity of 50,000. If they were a promotion contender, they would immediately jump to 46,000 or something

>>152638790
The average in Brazil seems awfully low. Such a large country with such impressive football culture. The stadiums can’t be that small either. Sure, having like 100 big clubs in Rio and São Paulo means no one can have all the fans in their stadium, but São Paulo is such a huge urban moloch that it should still suffice. I am a bit confused, I would have expected Brazil to be up to 50% higher

>>152638790
Liga MX would be below Brasil with the last numbers of Apertura 2025 (around 22,260 in average)

also have to take in account the number of teams, championship has 24 teams and MLS has 30 and some leagues have under 20

>>152639301
It's an average. Clubs with small stadions will bring it down, e.g. Germany with Heidenheim (15,000 capacity) or England with Bournemouth (11,000 capacity), and the same is true for Brazil (they have several with a capacity of less than 20,000).

>>152639561
It’s still lower than I expected. Look at the individual clubs: Cruzeiro have an average attendance of 44,000 in a stadium with 62,000 capacity, and that still puts them in second overall. The team finished 3rd btw, so not like they had a trash season no one bothered to support them in. Belo Horizonte has like 2.7 million inhabitants, the entire state of Minas Gerais has 22 million and Cruzeiro and Atlético Mineiro are the only two major clubs there
Fluminense has an average attendance of 28,000 in the Maracana; and yet they are 7th in attendance
These figures just seem awfully weak to me. At least compared to what Brazil is known for in terms of fan culture

>>152639629
In Porto Alegre, Gremio and Internacional have stadiums with capacities of 61,000 and 51,000. And their average attendance is 25,000 and 22,000
Botafogo is at 17,000 in a stadium for 47,000
This just looks plain wrong

>>152639301
the size of a country is less a factor here, population density rather