>Passes to Shaq to win 3 rings>4th ring goes down the toilet cuz he no longer wants to pass and wants to play heroball>somehow is ranked by people as high as lbj and mjHe's definitely the best rapist to ever play ball, I'll give you that
>>152673401Not the most but definitely overrated
>>152673401He is overrated, but he is at least without a doubt a top 25 player of all time. The most overrated is Bill Russell, he would average 5 points and 8 rebounds off the bench in this era.
>>152673401>"Carried">Averages more than Shaq in all three western conference playoff series>Takes him maturing to get Shaq who was considered an overrated playoff choker out of the west who at the time consistently had the second and third best teams in the league where he can feast on the shitty big men in the east>Still relied on as the clutch performer in the finals like Game 4 against the Pacers when Shaq fouls out in OT and proceeds to score every basket but 1 on a badly sprained ankle >Has the best scoring season in league history during a dead ball era with his starters consisting of Smush Parker, Deavan George, Lamar Odom, and Kwame Brown and would've beat the 1 seed Suns in the first round if Kwame Brown didn't give up a fluke buzzer beater 3 to Tim Thomas>Wins 2 more rings with Pau Gasol as his second best player and a bench of Jordan Farmar, Sasha Vujacic, and Shannon Brown while Shaq was hobbling to first round exits on the Suns and LeCavs and LeBron was whining about NEEDAN MO HELP >Gets dumped on by zoomers and thridies who never seen him play because MUH EFISHANSEE so they can prop up jokes like LeBron who has a losing record in the Finals against every other all-time great in his era and couldn't get out of the east to play Kobe when his competition was Dwight Howard and Hedo Turkeyglue
>>152673401fuck do u know about naythin shut ur stupid fuckin mouth
>>152673401u gonna fucin cry about it, crobitch? u gonna fuckin cry ??? go cry, crobitch
>>152673655>>152673582
>>152673401>the most overrated ball player of all timeLeBrainless James, hands down, is the worst thing that ever happened to the NBA. I can't even look at a game with that asshole in it.Shaq is the second worse thing.
>>152673582Shaq has 3 FMVPs, Kobum has 2. Sorry bucko
>>152673401Anybody who watched Kobe from 2003-2010 knows he's better than LeBum
>>152673401No but lebron is
>>152673870Shaq with Penny Hardaway - swept by the Bulls and RocketsShaq with Eddie Jones and Nick Van Exel - swept by the Spurs and JazzShaq with Kobe - 3 rings 4 finals appearances
>>152673945>>152673934We not talkin bout layin bricks, this ball not construction
>>152673982Shaq with Dwayne Wade?
>>152674069Thanks for telling everyone here that you're a little yuropoor zoomer faggot who doesn't know what he's talking about. I doubt you were watching Lakers games at 3am for 7 years. Go fuck off and never pretend to know basketball on the internet because we can all see you're a fraud. Go fuck yourself.
>>152674174Carried far harder by Dwyane Wade than Kobe was ever carried by Shaq
>>152673401Lbs sucked kobe sucked
>>152673401>Advanced stat nerds be like>Umm ackshually this guy who had an 81 point game, 6 60 point games, a 4 game 50 point streak, averaged over 30 3 times and over 35 once during a dead ball era in the NBA, routinely takes and makes extremely well-defended shots, and can score at any angle at any spot on the floor with any method against any defense, is not the greatest scorer of all time because his PPASS% isn't as high as other players
>>152674237Dead rapist glazers seethe too easily
>>152674347>kobrick fans be like this cherrypicked highlight reel proves he was the best because we left out all his bricksBtw, fg% isn't some advanced metric, and kobe bricked more than he hit
>>152674373>>152674393>All games on 3am local time>Thinks because he watched 10-20 random games he's some NBA expertKek this comedy is hilarious. Next he's gonna tell me he's an astronaut because he got high
>>152674347Anybody who watched Kobe play live during his prime in person knows he's as good as everyone else says he is. Guy would make impossible shots over triple teams
>>152674436Kobrick ain't top 10, top 1 rapist tho>>152674463Kobe would lay up a fat brick instead of just passing, truly the GOAT
>>152673982Any Yet Shaq has more FMVPs.
>>152674463Anybody who watched Kobe play knows the he was an overrated bum carried by the fact he played for the Lakers. That's why this top '10' player lost out on the MVP to Steve Nash lmao.
>>152673401He and lebron are
>>152674502>What's that coach? We need a tough basket? >Well it's low percentage and I need to preserve my stats so Im going to pass it Rodney Hood and blame him when we lose >Don't you expect me to guard in the clutch either or you'll get fired too
>>152674584>what's that coach, pass the ball to shaq?>nah Imma chuck it like a bum
>>152674512Not one of those years their opponent in the Finals was the best team they played in the playoffs
>>152674502You still haven't told us how you watched thousands of Lakers games at 3am local time in Croatia
>>152674532Just another loser whose childhood got raped by Shaq and Kobe
>>152674631By shaq*Kobe only raped that woman in colorado in 2003
>>152674639answer the question faggot. How did you watch thousands of Lakers games at 3am local time in Croatia?
I'm not sure what it means when another team's gameplan is "we can't really stop shaq but kobe will chuck them out of the game so just do the best you can til it happens" but it's probably not positive
>>152674664Do you think Kobe's watching up at his wife getting piped?
>>152674681>Quadruple teamed>Still lost the game to him
>>152674599>What's that coach you expect me to play in a system that centers around ball reversal and post play?>That's stupid how else will I rack up MUH ASSISTZ and show I'm a great unselfish teammate if the ball isn't in my hands all game and I turn every player no matter their strength into a spot up shooter?>You're fired
>>152674692Croatiaskeetz never even watched the games KEK Somebody come get their schizo
>>152674698Kobe layin em up
>>152674750Answer his question faggot otherwise stop pretending like you know basketball
Why did Chris Bosh and Kevin Love regress under LeBron, but Shaq won 3 rings after being an overrated playoff choker at 2 different teams and Pau went from being a literally who decent stat guy to a HOFer under Kobe if he was a selfish bricklayer chucker?
>>152674602Your right, this is why Kobe has more MVPs than Shaq right, oh wait...
>>152674631I'm, not really Kobe's type he prefers defenseless women in hotels.
>>152674759Bro saved Kobe's dick from the crash so he can keep glazing
>>152674784You're a faggot so close enough
>>152674693Kobe cost them the chip than chimped out and force Shaq out.
>>152674809Must make you seethe knowing Kobe would never fuck you cause you give it out to easy. Mamba mentality.
>>152674802>Lives in 3rd world shithole with no access to 1st world amenities>High speed internet limited to 50mbps until the past decade>Can't stream NBA games until recently>Born in 2002>Has never watched Kobe live in person>All games on locally at 3am >Has seen 10 minutes of Kobe on the internet play>Thinks he's some expert
>>152674838>>152674811Cry more faggot
>>152674855>when you take the goat rapist spot by default cuz mj and lbj never raped nobody
>>152674811Shaq was a lazy nigger who got fat and didn't put effort into staying healthy because he fell for his own >MUH SHAQ DADDY DIESEL meme and ballooned up to 350lbs because he thought he could just overpower everyone and lost his quickness and agility that made him an all-time dominant player
>>152674920The numbers don't lie, and they spell brick chucker
>>152673401there are worse offenders, but his work ethic keeps him out of bum territory.
>>152674960Did he rape the ball?
>>152674174shaq was washed up by his 3rd season in LA. just being "bigger" than everyone eventually gets you schemed out of serious games
>Heh you see efficiency metrics are superior because if Player B took as many shots as Player A he'd average more points>No don't ask why he doesn't take more shots you chud
Kobe is a bum, but he's less of a bum than Lebron. It's telling that youngfags don't compare Lebron to Jordan anymore, though. I can't say I miss the days when faggots would spam the catalogue with "michael who" and whatnot.
Croatians are the worst posters on /sp/ after Canadians and Brazilians
>>152674347kobe shot 60 times a game to get 35 points for a very large portion of his career, little fella
>>152675047>kobe shot 60 times a game
>>152675047He loved to chuck those contested long 2's
>>152675062truth hurts lil nigga, go light a candle at the crash site over his mangled dick.
>>152675047>If I exaggerate things it'll look like I'm winning the argument
>>152675094>truth hurts lil nigga
>>152675108Bro dumping his whole porn stash here
>>152674915mj raped the pacers and the knicks for a decade.
>>152675126Take your meds
>>152675108>guise look at this fucking prayer that koobie chucked! no way he isnt the goat!!!>stat line for kobie is 4-26FG
Kobe always raped LeBron head to headhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcMCA_sJuTo
He wanted to skinwalk MJ, but he couldn't get past defenders or aim, so he had to chuck em. The league needed a new MJ so they put all the marketing behind Kobrick and people still buy into it.
>>152675196yeah don't let these silly things like facts get in the way of narratives
>>152675196lebum got raped by big slow white dudes his entire career. if you are comparing your guy to lebron, you have already lost.
>>152675208Meanwhile Kobe never got raped, instead he did the raping. GOAT mentality
>>152675207>Video posted showing irrefutable evidence>Post fake stats >"AKSHUALLY"
he's a career chucker that understood what fans want and putting on a show is the most important part alongside getting rings. definitely above Lebeta and probably around 7th or so on the GOAT list.
>>152675220kobie never won shit until most of the ACTUAL stars aged out or retired. he was a "filler" player.
>>152675207
>>152675169>If keep doubling down eventually he'll give up and it'll look like I won
>>152675230>cherrypicked highlights mean more than statisticsThis is your brain on Copebrick
>>152675238There have been a lot of braindead takes in this thread but this is the most retarded of them all
He won two rings heroballing with Pau so I'd say he's pretty good. Iverson gets even more love for heroballing with no rings
more should be said about Jerry West giving the lakers one last deal. Gasol for a bag of chips is some egregious bullshit that should have had memphis and the entire league pissed off
>>152675257allen iverson made kobie look retarded very routinely. so, sure kid.
>>152675269What? You are retarded. They literally got Marc Gasol a Hall of Famer in the deal, got out of a bad contract and were able to get Randolph with the new found cap space thus ushering in their most successful era in Memphis til this day
>>152675301>Iverson lost to Kobe in 2001 KWAB
>>152675256This faggot still pretending like he watched the games? It has been 2 hours of you arguing like a retard while everyone knows you didn't watch the game. Go do something with your life kid
>>152675310 If Marc is a HOFer than I am too. But Jerry did do the best he possibly could with Grizzlies in that situation
>>152675340It's been 2 hours of you posting cherrypicked highlights while ignoring raw stats. Sorry Copebrick dickrider, facts don't care about your feelings
>>152675310they got an unknown, a bunch of shit players, and some trash picks. The market was way better than that which is why everybody was scratching their heads. It was bullshit
>>152675371>they got an unknownSee this is why you have no clue what you're talking about. Memphis knew who Marc was being Pau's brother. He was unknown to retards like you who have no idea what they're talking about
>>152675346>Defensive player of the year>Olympic Silver>NBA Champion>Defensive anchor of one of the best defensive teams in league history Grit n GrindJust goes to show you most retards who talk sports on the internet have no clue
>>152675385he was an unknown in nba terms you fucking retard which is why he went 48. That's an asset with little value and nobody reasonable would give up good stuff for it without a shitload of other good assets being involved
>>152675363Nigga we all know you didn't watch the games
>>152675411I'm going to trust Jerry West's judgement over yours. Are you the one in the NBA logo? The only logo your fatass would qualify for is the Rascal Scooter
LOL at all the zoomershits seething. Keep looking at your gay ass statsheets, mamba would sweep your favourite teams 7 days a week. 5 rings, only tim duncan has done it this century
>>152675415Believe what you want, all Kobrick fans I ever met were fags. They'd try to chuck fat bricks all game, then we'd beat em up and steal their ball.
>>152675506>zoomer statsheets>every other top 10 player except kobrick has good stats
>>152675506>Ummm sweety this player at 21 dominating the best team in the league in the playoffs and getting any shot he wanted isn't impressive because....he took alot of shots and his misses weren't erased as FTAs
>>152675506 Based
>>152675514Notice he didn't deny it. Thanks for confirming you didn't watch the games and you meet fags in your free time
honestly these "highlights" are starting to make me think zoomers are right. Look at all that damn space on the court and It's like they're moving in slow motion. Guess the game really has evolved
>>152675667"Hello fellow adults. I am NOT a zoomer"
>>152675667Yeah like how in today's a chubby Serb with a 2 inch vertical and no foot speed can go for 50/10/10 by shooting 1 on 1 baby hooks and executing dribble handoffs.
Kobe was the greatest player I’ve seen in my lifetime. I’m 30, so my view may be stunted by the fact I got to witness absolute prime Kobe at an impressionable age, but if anything he doesn’t get enough flowers. He was the best player in a series that had prime Duncan and Shaq (picrel) Not gonna let some irrelevant flag from a flyover country convince me what I watched wasn’t greatness.
>>152675757He had the game winning shot at the end in the series clinching game 4
>>152675573If LeBum or any loser from this era were guarded like that first Kobe shot, they'd go to Adam Silver demanding a suspension
>>152675310This. The KG/Ray deals with Boston were way more uneven. Casuals just think it was Kwame for Pau. It’s like bruh, Marc was an ascending prospect and Memphis cleared the books for Zach Randolph. Plus they got to tank for a better draft pick. It was a win win trade
>>152675737Jokić already outranks Kobe on the ATG list
>>152675832Thank fuck there's an actual adult here. The KG trade from Minnesota involving Kevin McHale and Boston was WAAAAAY more of a ripoff. Al Jefferson and Sebastian Telfair for KG? And that nigga has the audacity to cry about the Lakers trade? Memphis got a Hall of Famer out of it, what did Minnesota get out of it besides getting ripped off?
>>152675832boston gave up real assets to get both of those guys. Al Jefferson and gerald green were thought to be a future allstars not to mention the real draft picks they traded. No way it's comparable to the Gasol trade even though Marc turned out better
>>152675870>Mommy Jokić already outranks Kobe on the ATG list because the zoomers on the internet told me so
>>152675880
>zoomer nba fans when kobe locks up sga and dunks on him 7 times in a row (SGA was the statistically most efficient player guard in history)>zoomer nba fans when old man tim duncan drops 30/20 on giannis (giannis is clearly the greatest talent in history and its his league [archived 2021] he will dominate for years to come and retire with at least 3 rings>zoomer nba fans when shaw bullies jokic so hard an albanian flag spawns on his forehead (jokic had a STEVENASH of 19.92 the highest in nba history and is thus unbeatable
>>152675885Fat Serb outranks brick chucker Kobe
>>152675968Bro can't let go of childhood marketing kek>but but, the TV said mamba mentality, stats don't mean nuffin
>>152675972Fat Serb can't even win an Olympic Gold Medal lmfaohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhpVE5Yfvhc
>>152675993Maybe he could if he only had to pass the ball to Shaq, unfortunately he plays with bums
>>152674237>>152674347>>152674855>>152675340this thread is evem more proof of americans blindly worshipping their african masters
>>152675990Heres a bunch of stats:5 rings20 million instagram followers (croatia has a population of 4 million
>>152676035Go away gypsy you aren't taking our money
>>152676009This nigga still crying 3 hours later about Kobe lmfao not even his family cried this much when he died
>>152676035He's a nigger himself, it's obvious. Only a low iq nigger can't figure out he bought into a huge marketing campaign that was pushing Kobe so they could sell merch. Kobe was supposed to be the new MJ, except he couldn't hold MJ's jockstrap
>>152675990Yeah man dont watch nba games look at this formula created by a guy who never played 5 on 5 (no bitches either)
>>152675993>>152676009Where in that video is Shaq you clown? Thanks for proving you didn't watch the games and you hang out with fags
>>152676043>20 million instagram followersKek, kobrick fans really are something else. Stats don't matter on the court, your social media stats are what matters
>>152676093Imagine wasting this much energy hating on a dead guy who you never even watched play live or on TV
>>152676064Who's crying, I'm laughing at the kobrick fans seething over pure facts. Kobrick fans are always the most defensive, probably because anyone with a brain knows Kobe isn't top 10 and they must defend him often
>>152676093>>152676109She has been posting nonstop for 3 hours KEK the meltdown has been spectacular to say the least. Friday night on /sp/ hating on a dead guy just because he plays a children's game... jesus christ that sounds even worse when you say it out loud
>>152676123Keep seething. Full ring of hands. 2 fmvps (3 very close cases). And did it through the peak west playing god tier players like duncan dirk and kg.
>>152676158He got 3 rings from Shaq, and he had to buy one for his wife because he is a rapist
>>152676188Too bad no ones gonna buy your lonely no bitches having ass a ring.Rent free
>>152676195Nigga, even if Kobe were alive he still wouldn't fuck you, you can stop glazing his propeler-sliced dick
>>152676213Im not thinking about fucking other men you lame ass hater
The guy who lives in a shithole country and never watched Kobe play live in person or even on TV is telling the people in LA who watched him play thousands of games in person and on TV that they are falling for marketing hype? Is this nigga for real??
>>152676213Just continues to prove he never watched the games and hangs out with fags
>>152676227Did you watch the one in Colorado in 2003?
>>152676227>this nigger calling my country a shitholeKek
>>152676188You don’t know what you’re talking about lmao. You’re from a flyover country. Your opinion doesn’t matter
>Croatia you are a buck-broken BAWBKobe is fucking your mind and living in it Keep seething lmao
>>152676396I didn't consent to him fucking my mind, but that hasn't stopped him before
>>152676417>admits to be being a buck-broken BAWB who mentally got fucked by Kobe I accept your concession
>>152676440>admits to Kobe being a rapistThis nigga worships a rapist, lawdy lawdy
>>152673401Shaq has 0 rings, Kobe at least has a legit ring without him
>>152673523>The most overrated is Bill Russelllol
>>152673401And yes, I am a faggot and would let Kobe fuck my ass raw. Hope he can aim his dick better than his brick
>>1526766144 hours later this no life third world faggot is still arguing
>>1526766294 hours later this nigga still in my thread defending Kobrick. You make it too easy
>>152674069>h2h>per game box score stats>FG%I don't have kobe in my top 10 but my god is this a disingenuous image.
>>152676470And for as much as people joke about Kobe assists, no other player ever built such a huge reputation for making ridiculous big time shots that he'd pull every single defender on the court his way to contest a bad off-balance late clock three. Zoomers want to always talk about aura, that's aura. That's something that matters when talking about greatness.
>>152673401Kobe isn't even top 500 but is put into top 10s which is absurd yes, but I still say Jordan is more overrated. Yes he's top 10 all time, but the way he's "discussed" is that it's an objective fact that he's #1 and you're not allowed to dispute it, and he's so far ahead of everyone else that he'd beat #2-10 in a 1v9 game
>>152673523Bill Russell averaging 5 and 8 would still be the best player in the league. Defense matters, zoomer.
>>152679231
kobe was actually really efficient relative to his era and even more efficient if you account for every shooting guard in the league when he playedhis playmaking was also underrated for a SG, and he was one of the best guard defenders ever making like 11 all nba defensive team selections (while leplap only has 7), anyways its pretty obvious why a person like kobe won 5 rings in 7 finals and a person like leflop is the worst choker ever
>>152679737>kobe was actually really efficient relative to his era and even more efficient if you account for every shooting guard in the league when he playedZoomers think because everyone scores higher now they're obviously better. Not that pace, play style, and different officiating have made the game much more offense friendly.Kobe's 81 point and 62 in 3 games become even more impressive because they weren't in back-and-forth high tempo 300 point zoomerball fuckfests like what happen now.
>>152679853Zoomers think Jokic is better than Shaq. Shit is a joke with this generation
>>152679965I think Jokic would be an all-time great in any era but shit in today's league is so fucking easy for him its unreal. Aside from memeing a few threes in its all soft coverage 1v1 baby hooks and floaters where teams are just letting him set up in the paint without any physicality or effort to keep him away from the rim. Maybe you could argue he's such a good passer you can't double him or play him too tight because he'd carve you on back doors and kickouts, but that's no excuse for NO ONE coming even close to guarding him 1v1. Shaq, Hakeem, and Duncan wouldn't let him score 50. He'd struggle to score 30.
>>152680065>I think Jokic would be an all-time great in any eraNah if he played in the 90s he'd be Sabonis (the dad) lite
>>152680102He'd be if Prime Sabonis could've played in the NBA. Not old broken down Sabonis that played for the Blazers. But not as good of a defender either.
>>152680151I doubt Jokic would have a single MVP if he played in the 90s or 00s. He'd be on the Ray Allen/Alonzo Mourning tier of players
>>152679853>Zoomers thinkim a zoomer
>>152679965shaq is a fraud who choked against ben wallace so jokic wouldnt have problems working around prime shaq anyways since he is the best playmaking center of all time
>>152680241Now tell everyone in the chat how you watched all those hundreds of Lakers games at 4am and that makes you an expert compared to everyone else in LA
>>152680356tell me one thing that shaq is better than jokic at except dunking
>>152680392winning rings
>>152680400Got em
Why the fuck are Yurotrash posters in this thread trying to lecture the people who actually watched the games about who is better? We all know you faggots weren't watching NBA on TV at 3am in 2000
>>152675207LeBron cheated the fans when he couldn't get past Dwight Howard to get to the finals, and then ran to Miami for the Bosh/Wade stimulus package -- then proceeded to shit the bed against the Mavericks.
>>152680392Rebounding, post scoring, playing against Tim Duncan, David Robinson, Hakeem Olajuwon, Rasheed and Ben Wallace, instead of fucking Chet Holmgren and Rudy Gobert.
>>152680468It was a calculated move by LeBum. If he lost to the Lakers in 09 nobody in the history of basketball, not even zoomers, would rate him that high again. Luckily millennials are still around and know Kobe was better but Klutch convinced an entire of generation of braindead zoomers that a fraud is the best at basketball somehow
>>152680468Lebron shat the bed against dallas but let's not pretend the lakers didn't get swept and the 3 peat destroyed
>>152680626The Lakers went to 3 straight finals before 2011. Kobe was playing with no meniscus and Shannon Brown fucked Pau Gasol's fiance the weekend before Game 1
>>152680626Granted.
>>152680598I mean honestly getting kicked around by the mavericks+spurs+warriors pretty much should've decimated his claim to GOAT.His only saving grace was his media arm AKA ESPN.
>>152680705As time goes on I guarantee you LeBum will be seen as worse than Curry
>>152680726Technically Curry/warriors did transform the league with a less gifted physique .... in the same era as LeBron.Curry should definitely be ahead of Lebron in the conversation.
>>152679853Like Kobe put up 40/8/8 in game 1 against the Magic on only 8 FTAs and no 3s made in a game that scored less than 200 total points by completely imposing his will on the Magic defense that included a shotblocker that people talk about in the same league as Hakeem and Diekembe and getting whatever shot he wanted to in the paint and around the free throw area, but because he took 34 good makeable shots stat nerds think its not an elite game. They'd rather him flop on 5 of those shot attempts and erase them from the stat sheet to make his TS% better. Everyone forgets that there's skill itself in volume, there's just as much value to a guy that take and make any shot anywhere at any time than there is in a guy with a sexy box score because he protects his stats or because he's just not good enough to get off those kind of shots.>>152680655After 2011 Kobe's injuries really piled up and Pau and the bench regressed bigly. If the 2013 team happened a year earlier and he never tore his achilles he would've had one more really good chance.
>>152680705>>152680726LeBron has a losing record in the finals against every all time great he ever played, including never even playing Kobe because he couldn't beat Dwight Howard and Hedo Turkeyglue. IDK how you can even definitively call that the best player of his generation let alone the GOAT.
>>152680791Watching that shit makes you realize just how much better Kobe is than anyone in the league today. Just look at how physical the game was and he was still scoring insane shots
>>152679382>>152673523Your all time greats could play in any era, especially if they had access to modern rules and attitudes towards practice and training. Bill Russell would be a better Ben Wallace. Wilt Chamberlain would be a cross between Giannis and Wemby. Jerry West would be Reggie Miller or Ray Allen. Larry Bird would be Luka Doncic if he wasn't soft and could play defense.
who's the soccerball equivalent of kobe
>>152680911Zibak il Saghir
>>152680791Don't forget the Mavs blocking the cp3 trade, but ironically enough years later gifting the Lakers their best player since Dirk.Reality is stranger than fiction
>>152680791This is a finals team with Luke Walton and Jordan Farmar logging serious minutes and Lebronfags want to call it a super team because Kobe made Pau into a Hall of Famer. I think even Josh Powell and DJ MBenga had to play after Bynum got hobbled.
