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Okay, who is the real GOAT? Let's decide right here, right now.
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>>152840869
You know where I stand on this.
I think post 2005 or thereabouts the NBA diverged and became a different sport, "international basketball"; Jordans era was still American Basketball and the superior game. It required way more skill and ability, they had constraints. It was harder to score, to play, to succeed. Lebron is the greatest in International Basketball era, but Jordan is the greatest basketball player of all time
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>>152840929
It's really weird u never really saw Jordan as a black person. He was just Jordan. Lebron was always a negroe though
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>>152840869
lebrons 2016 finals performance is the most impressive individual feat in basketball but jordan is still better overall
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everything lebrons done has been more impressive than anything jordan ever did
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>>152840929
>>152841090
Lebron is the original guy that started getting away with the absurd travels that are common today
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>>152841187
It's harder to grasp the original basketball if you didn't experience that era than it is for someone to understand the current game. The former requires you to imagine what it's like having constraints and rules, but everyone can understand what the absence of rules means
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>>152841243
the rules of a kiddie 3pt line?
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>>152841090
The way he ran from one side of the court to the other non stop, being decisive on both ends was crazy
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>>152840869
1. Kareem
2. Pippen
3. Lebron
Definitive top 3 and then the rest can be tiered in groups of 4-6 guys in no particular order. Jordan would probably be in the first of those
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Lebron, obviously, but Jordan was most ludo
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>>152840869
Michael is the GOAT but LeBron is a better person.
Michael would bury other players and ruin their reputations.
LeBron always kept on the court things on the court. In fact LeBron would go out of his way to elevate young guys and put them up.
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>>152840869
The one that doesn;t have a losing record against every other all time great in his generation
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>>152841090
>lebrons 2016 finals performance is the most impressive individual feat in basketball
By what metric? Lol.

Congrats to him for beating up a Warriors with injured Steph, injured Bogut, and suspended Draymond though. He still missed 4 shots in a row in the clutch, but good thing Kyrie saved his ass.
>>152841284
3 points was always the weakest part of Jordan's game, it really didn't help him much.
>>152841608
>Lebron, obviously
Deluded.
>>152841844
The same guy who quit on several occasions and got all the glory while his teammates got all the criticism? Such a nice guy.
>>152842195
LeFlop has been garbage on defense for 10 years straight, it's embarrassing really.
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Jordan played against the scariest and meanest and literal dirtiest (and smelliest) hard Rs

lebron plays (at worst) against niggas
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Are people serious with naming Lebron as the GOAT? Is it just trolling, recency bias, lack of knowledge or what?

Jordan, Wilt, Russell, Kareem, Magic and Bird are easily and without a doubt above Lebron in a GOAT debate, and you could argue for some other guys too. he's around the 10th place give or take, but never higher than any of those 6.
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>>152842245
by being the only person in history to lead in all categories in a final series?
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>>152840869
There is no decision to make? There is no argument either, it's MJ
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>>152840929
>"international basketball"
What? The problems in today's game are unique to the NBA. If anything international basketball is much closer to old NBA
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>>152841844
>LeBron always kept on the court things on the court. In fact LeBron would go out of his way to elevate young guys and put them up.
What the fuck are you talking about? Lebron ruined many vets careers, forced other stars to play in his way, and many young players were outright dropped by their team because Lebum wanted another 3 point shooter around him
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>>152840869
1) Wilt
2) MJ
3) LeBron
4) Kareem
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>>152840869
I'm pretty sure Michael Jordan has the bigger BBC. The other guy is too zesty
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>>152840869
LeBum is not in the conversation, it's one between Alcindor, Bird and Jordan
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If you include collegiate careers you’ve gotta say Jordan & Kareem, then a significant gap. Then you’ve got your Kobe, LeBron, Magic, etc.

Also internationally, Arvydas Sabonis is hugely significant. Not the GOAT but deserves come recognition
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The one with more rings, who didn't use super teams, who actually won DPOY and multiple scoring titles, who everyone respects. The player who didn't get raped by Diddy, the player who isn't a democrat shill. The player who played defence and has a perfect finals record.

NOT
The player who has 2 (TWO) superteam rings, one bubble ring and one hospital ring (we'll count that as a valid one because it broke records, whatever)
Not the player who has played with the most All-Star, All-NBA best players ever, generally.

There is literally no debate. The only argument Bronsexuals can give is that his competition was better, which is true. Curry had the highest peak and the best team and this was his era, not LeBum's. Also Jordan didn't get kicked out of the first round in multiple years by a fat serbian or blame his teammates whenever he lost.
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>>152846801
You understand better than most Americans do these days. The LeBron propaganda machine does so much damage to common sense
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>>152840869
The one that didn’t get vaginal cramps from an air conditioner or have a fan(a WOMAN no less) ejected for supposedly calling him mean names
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Bron carries a purse
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why lebron king if he no 6 ring?
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>>152850573
It's not a purse, it's a European carryall
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Bron is the only player celebrated for coming in 2nd lmaoooo
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>>152841758

Takes a bigger man to not demand sex 100% of the time, but you'll understand once you grow up.



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