Kyle Tucker 240m/4yr to the DoyarsBo Bichette 126m/3yr to da Mets baby da MetsNone of the other poverty clubs made moves worth mentioning.
Mets to bring back Griffin Canning. He is sneaky underrated, fluky injury costed him a good season. His fastball is bad, but he improved his slider to compensate and it's worked pretty well.
>>152997882>>152997901they spent all their loonies on dylan cease klenk!
>>152997776>Rob Thomson is why Bryce Harper, Trea Turner, Alec Bohm, JT Realmuto, Nick Castellanos, and Brandon Marsh are unable to hit in the playoffs since game 6 of the 2023 NLCSBaseball managers aren't that powerful.
We are your superiors.
>Be Bo Bichette/JD Drew>Phillies have interest in you>Give the team your offer>The Phillies meet that offer>Go to another team with a different offer from the one you said you wantedThis is strictly a Phillies problem
~Doyers~
29 other teams should file a lawsuit against the dodgers for damaging their product
>Cohen crashed out so hard he signed Bichette in a ragekek
>>152997929made for motorboating
>philthies o I am klenkin!
>>152997929>>152997936Doycattle posts
Payroll floor NOW
>>152997937Or just spend the millions they'd spend on the attorneys on players instead
>>152997929this is photoshopped to shit look at her waist lmao
>>152997929let’s run this through the anti-AI filter aaaaaand… o dear
Phillies offseason was fucked the moment they announced Thompson, Long, and Dombrowski were to remain after being humbled for the second year in a row in the NLDS
BREAKING: Mets are placing Bo at 1b, Polanco and cash considerations to the M's for Rhylan Thomas.
are the mets retardedbo at 42M may be more of an overpay than tucker
>>152997921No, but he is the retard that took Wheeler out and put Alvarado in to face Yordan even after Yordan crushed him int he previous game giving up the game losing HR in the WS. He is the guy that kept putting Kimbrel and Kerkering in the NLCS letting them blow leads in two games. He is the retard that sent 40 year old semi-retired Robertson back out for a multi innint stint until he got lite up. He is the retard that kept the hit and run on even after getting to see the Dodgers were expecting it and had a play on to get the lead runner. He is the retard that put Kerkering in a dirty inning with inherited runners when that had been a massive weakness for him all season. Rob has cost them multiple playoff games. Don't fucking try to deflect shit. The guy is a fucking terrible game time manager.
uh....Baty Chads?
>>152997985>are the mets retardedDo you even need to ask?
>>152997980This rate the Phillies may have no choice but to fire Dombo before the season even starts.
da mets baby!
Skubal clunk
feel way better now than I did this morning but Mets still need a LF. I feel like Baty is now trade bait.
>>152997985>>152998009Is Bo really worth TWO Polancos?
>>152997902mets have no plan. cohen threw stearns to the side to make some sort of panic splash crazy knowing a player turned out 50mil a season but he went after tucker
>>152997902Reminder: Nothing ever happens
At this point I'm rooting for the Yankees to bottom out. Watching the Dodgers buy championships while Hal Steinbrenner cries poor and runs it back with Boone & Cashman is completely insulting if you remember back when the Yankees had standards.
>Nightengale] The Phillies had agreed to Bo Bichette’s request for a 7-year, $200 million deal last night and believed they would sign him until the Mets swooped in with their 3-year, $126 million offer after losing out in in the Kyle Tucker sweepstakes.
>42mil/year for a .300ba, 20hr guy that can't stay healthyHave fun with that, Metties.
>>152998024What's yer offer?
>>152998039Hal does not give a single shit
>>152997985>jasyseething canuck why are you like this? We all know you wanted Bo and Tucker both lmao.
>>152998039Which reminds meWhy were people OK with the Yankees "abusing the system" back then?
Bo’s all ours, suck it bitch!
>>152998041>it's realtopkek this is a crazy offseason.
>>152998041>>152998056lol Dave is probably going to end up getting himself killed by some fent junkie soon.
>>152998054>Why were people OK with the Yankees "abusing the system" back then?Deep down we all knew there was a bigtime cable tv deal coming for an LA club that would humble the Bronx once and for all.
>>152998054Scratch that, why didn't people call for a strike when the Yankees abused the system back then?
>>152998049Leave him alone, lil guppy learned what baseball was last September
>>152998054They weren't. Why do you think the "Evil Empire" thing stuck?George Steinbrenner was pathologically obsessed with winning and ran the Yankees accordingly unlike his idiot failson who wants to tell you all about how little money the Yankees have.
>Dodgers are ruining baseballDoes anyone here actually believe that?
>>152998056
>>152998087I believe it for entertainment purposes
Remember at the start of the offseason when it looked like the Jasy would buy all the good players?
>>152998087no. don't forget the mets thought they would be the NL east dodgers but peoples literally don't want to sign there willingly
>>152998079You could say the same thing about the Dodgers, the only difference is it's only now that people are calling for a work stoppage not knowing that would only hurt their teams moreso than the DodgersTo me I think it's fine that there's a supervillain in baseball. Did people suddenly forget about the Warriors? Patriots?
>>152998056We got Kekering doe
>bo bichett is now the 5th highest paid player in baseball by aavkek You can have him for that price. WTF is happening in this league?
>>152998087they are going to force rule changes, and those rule changes may ruin baseball
>>152998087the bidding wars they keep forcing will
>>152998087>dominate baseball by outspending the rest of the league>guarantee a 2027 shutoutEspecially the shutout they are demonstrably ruining baseball yes
https://x.com/SteveGelbs/status/2012218770744398176?s=203b confirmed
>>152998107This is just how FA is going to shake out for the next few years as all new contracts get redone according to the inflation of both dollars and salaries. Cohen should start offering a gross% of his casino business in contracts.
Thankfully my poverty team can still win my poverty division and I don't have to care about the playoffs
>>152998087You underestimate how fucking stupid people in this country are if you're getting oneguy'd by those types.
>>152998087Deferred payments is a joke and needs to be stopped. I don't care if the Dodges want to spend a trillion dollars but actually feel the financial burden now.
they were supposed to do it together bros.........
These recent offseasons is all the Red Sox's fault for those 4 championships they won until they traded Mookie to the Dodgers and now they are going to be the new team of the 21st century with 12 titles to come. If that curse didn't break, the MLB would been better but nooooo the insufferable Sux fans wanted no patience after those 8 decades of butthurt. Boston is the reason baseball was already ruined since 2004, not the Dodgers.
>>152998130Where the hell was this 2 decades ago?
Brett Baty for Victor Robles and Dom Canzone, who says no?
>>152998131probrem?
>>152998156Fine, I'll do it.
dombrowski will panic soon and give JT a deal that stretches into his 40s
>>1529981675 year 100 million
>>152998087no. didn't care when the yankees did this and don't care now. i just want my team to make smart moves and develop well and be fun to watch
One of your teams WILL overpay for Donovan and you WILL be slightly disappointed
My new New York Mets :)
bye ronny mauricio it was nice knowing you
>Realmuto is close to resigning with the Phillies with a deal believed to be 2 years 65 million
>spic dodger fans getting gibs from the government >kike dodgers owner gets special revenue sharing deal Yeah we team ownies
>>152998171What about 5 Year/5 Dorra with 3 order of garlic chicken, 3 order of white rice, 3 order of wonton soup, and the fortune cookie
>>152998188I'm keeping my crummy pitchers and you can have your two years of controlling utility whizkid Donovan.
>>152998087>exposing trillionaires as not even trying to win>guaranteeing the already-very-likely lockout, which would put an end to Manfred>might get a salary floor added finallyThey're the hero we need
We need the list! Post the list!!
>>152998209let's run it back one year older!
>JT Realmuto to return to Philadelphia on a 3 year 45 million dollar deal
>>152998214yu hava dear!
This will go good with our "2022-2026 playoff participant" banners
>>152998239they should have made a push to trade for rutschman. this phillies group has proven for 3-4 years now they can't get it done.
>>152998209>>152998239>Breaking: Free-agent catcher J.T. Realmuto and the Philadelphia Phillies are in agreement on a three-year, $45 million contract with a chance to get to $60 million, according to sources familiar with the deal.
Run it back Phillies kek
>>152998087Nobody expected Friedman's plan to work this well, but they won't do this forever. When Freddie and Betts hit the wall (if they haven't already) the team will be hamstrung.
Which white players have yellow skin?
>>152998239>>152998266....why?
>>152998054They weren't you ahistorical numbnuts. "Rooting for the Yankees is like going to the casino and rooting for the house."
Grease the poles! The philthies have won the signed their old catcher sweepstakes!!!
>>152998265Philly literally only have 2 prospects in the farm that other teams would want. They can't trade for anybody big without completely fucking their already limited future.
Braves, Nationals and Marlins are having a laugh
Everybody in the universe knew Philly was going to resign JT. Why are you fuckers acting surprised?
>>152998265>rutschmanBeavs legend
>>152998281Retard, there weren't swarms of people calling for a multiyear work stoppage 2 decades ago, you have imbeciles playing right into the owners' hands right now. It's like the very people who were dead silent about the Yankees back then, suddenly wake up. You had a chance to force a salary cap and floor decades ago, NOW you want one? I just don't get these people.
>>152998087The Dodgers are ruining baseball is a stupid narrative because then you have "akshually" types telling you that btw, did you know the other team owners could spend more? What's ruining baseball is the fact that there is no penalty severe enough to stop the teams with the most lucrative RSNs and media markets from constantly refreshing their windows because it's nearly impossible to outspend their revenue, choking the upper crust of FA to a select few.
>>152998307It's fake. We're celebrating because We've spent the past 3 seasons getting gutted by free agents and will spend the next 3 seasons getting gutted by free agents. These Phillies teams are going to be as remembered as well as the 1980s Yankees teams that nobody ever talks about
Guys, Peff was just on Matt Pacaffee.
>>152998333I like how you act as if fans have any input at all in these situations.
>>152998307Is them getting a team friendly deal out of it. a 45 million dollar that can turn into a 60 million dollar deal is not team friendly for a 35 year old in decline.
>3Blolmets
Someone explain to me how the Dodgers are the one's ruining baseball when the Mets are the ones spending the most money?
>>152998333>>152998337>>152998345Erm, why not just improve your farm???
This man singlehandedly destroyed the Phillies by taking less money to play in LA
>>152998112But any rule changes would be an eternal concession that the Dodgers are just too good and the rest of the league needs special gibs just to compete which would be hilarious
>>152998354The Dodgers spend more than the Mets they had over a billion in deferred payments already going into this offseason
>>152998345I mean... they do to an extent? Some cities truly never recovered from the '94 strike as it is.>>152998354Dodgers just overtook the mantle.
>>152998333The average fan understands much more about the business side of baseball than they did 2 decades ago (when the Yankees hadn't won in 7 years). >right into the owners' handsI am so sick of this zero-nuance take. Did any of you like watching the SEC before the NIL when it was just Bama beating the shit out of clubs and occassionally tripping on its dick in the National game? Yes no shit there are owners skimming and the league would be better off without them. What are you left with after that? LA, NY, CHI, PHI, SF, BOS, TEX and some also-rans? If I joined a fantasy baseball league and saw someone with the Dodgers roster I would assume it was a league of idiots.
>>152998398Fantasize about this bussy
>>152998354Once the Ohtani deal happened, it encouraged the Dodgers to be uber aggressive with their payroll. Mets spending is not on the same level. So the perception just happened in 2024.
>>152998378Sure and Curt Flood rules were a concession that the Yankees were the best team because they could pilfer from the AAA teams masquerading as MLB clubs. Who cares.
>>152998375Pretty much this.
>>152998354because lol mest
>>152998411to be fair, that is why Ohtani deferred all that money. It'd be a dick move if they didn't maximize the window.
>>152998398the major leagues should be smaller. we need a premier league style breakaway of 18-22 teams the rest can be relegated to the minors where they can compete for promotion to the major league with cities like charlotte, indianapois, san diego, etc. who are currently locked into the minors
>>152998411Hope you realize the Blue Jays and Giants also offered the exact same deal the Dodgers gave him, he just so happened to pick the Dodgers of the three. Spending isn't even the core issue with most MLB teams, most of the time, it just means they have nice players, doesn't always translate to winning. Did you see how hard the Mets floundered this year after signing Juan Soto? You can't fix organizational dysfunction. That's the real problem. Teams are maliciously run/staffed. Force them to commit to winning or else make them sell their teams.
>>152998420Same with the NHL original teams in Canada + Detroit were allowed to hoard all of the Canadian players in Ontario 50 miles from their cities.
>>152998434he's such a cocksucker for doing that tbqh, goodie two shoes ass nigga
time to fucking give belli 45M for fucks sake
>>152998435How many times do we have to tell you soccerfags that relegation is a non-starter for both sides of the possible lockout?
>>152998435I want to see a premier league just because it would collapse under its own financial weight when 8 or 9 cities realize they can't sell a highly regional product everyday 6 months out of the year + playoffs
>>152998472it literally makes no sense and I question the actual mental efficacy of the anons that keep suggesting
>baseball should be more like soccer
>>152998434Can you blame him though? Money doesn't always buy happiness. Winning does. It's why so many people here have proudly adopted being a loser and I don't get how spineless some of you faggots truly are.
>>152998472players will get right over it once charlotte starts spending more money than pittsburgh
>>152998445The Dodgers have been one of the best organizations for a while but never managed to get over the hump beyond the mickey mouse year. What has set them over the top was signing Ohtani to that deal. That's where it all started. After he signed their aggression and player desire to play on a stacked team went exponential. Yes you need more than just big spending in free agency to make a dynasty, but that's not the point I am making.
batybros I don’t feel so good looks like we’re getting traded for Robert or someone
To what extend?
>>152998489A decade and a half or so of anons being raised on Yuroshitters and their god awful opinions for how our sports should be run. I'm not the one saying their leagues should adopt our sensibilities. Why? I don't fucking give a rat's ass about soccer. It can do whatever it wants just keep that self-righteous shit out of my sport.
>>152998459
FA should end dec 15 so the offseason isnt dominated by 3 players delaying things until teams are desperate and willing to spend this kind of money
>jt gets 45mil a yearHow pissed is Schwarber today? If the dude just waited he could have gotten close to 46-48mil a year instead of 33mil.
>>152998499Ohtani is free to play for whatever and he wants and good for him for prioritizing winning, he's the 21st century GOAT and a once-in-a-century player. It's also fucking horseshit that Kyle Tucker, a very good player in his own right but nowhere near Ohtani, is going to make half his guarantee in 4 years 2 offseasons later.
>everyone else in the league should have to entertain anaheim as a major league organization forever because gene autry spent some money 60 years ago
>>152998500Answer this anon, where would you, as a baseball player want to live? Grimy Pittsburgh with a park that's hell for hitters and regressive as fuck taxes? Not to mention, it's the Furfaggot Capital of America? Or Carolina, where a good number of MLB players hail from, and has better cost of living and quality of life.
>Phillies now looking in at BellingerDombrowski continuing to be a lol isn't he?
>>15299854045M total numb nuts; 15 a year
>Guaranteed Salary (2026+) per #MLB TeamLA Dodgers: $2,114,037,500San Diego: $1,266,675,000Toronto: $1,250,387,500NY Mets: $1,140,550,000Philadelphia: $865,173,963NY Yankees: $789,162,500Boston: $670,035,000Atlanta: $656,775,000San Francisco: $652,494,193Arizona: $629,787,500Houston: $512,045,000Kansas City: $491,510,000Seattle: $464,602,000Texas: $444,825,000Chicago (NL): $422,525,000Baltimore: $369,737,000LA Angels: $315,700,000Athletics: $275,785,000Milwaukee: $202,995,000Colorado: $178,875,000Cincinnati: $173,400,000Detroit: $172,580,000Pittsburgh: $159,080,000Minnesota: $154,525,000Cleveland: $131,500,000Washington: $120,871,429St. Louis: $102,525,000Chicago (AL): $102,400,000Miami: $76,420,000Tampa Bay: $70,740,000
>>152998502The point is, how come other teams don't even try "abusing the system?" The closest you'll get is the Blue Jays and their revenue influx from Rogers, if anything, this possible lockout should go harder on tanking, have organizational checks for those that clearly don't care about adapting to the modern game, and a more balanced television and broadcasting atmosphere, to which the blackout NEEDS TO FUCKING END FOR FUCK'S SAKE. I'm all for complaining about baseball being broken, but there's way more imbalance than you think, and it's not just what's on the field. It's the backbone. It's greedy and malicious. And that's what kills interest. Not superteams and evil empires.
PLS METS!
>>152998590poodres kek
>>152998590
red berd fags... I'm thinking about going to a couple games at busch this year. how are these seats?
eventually a team will come along that won't piss down their own leg when they have a chance to knock out the dodgers
>>152998544Which is why a cap and a floor seems to be the only fair outcome of what is to come. And they should make that cap much higher than the current league average because too many owners get away with being miserly fucks sitting on their billions.>>152998547His music is timeless and he actually cared about his team unlike Arte you dumb philstine.
>>152998590where the fuck is all the money in san diego going???
>>152998590>(NL)Yea we know chimpcago are negro lovers but why did they feel the need to call this out specifically?
>>152998560the phillies don't need another LH bat. not saying bellinger couldn't help, but maybe that's something you do before you add another $10m in sub-.300 OBP in RF to the $20m of sub-.300 OBP you already had in RF.
>>152998633tatis' baby mamas
>>152998618I don't think the Dodgers are threepeating. Too tall of an order and they're just not getting any younger. Insane amount of luck to win last year too. You heard it here first, I'll be surprised if they do. This is Toronto's year to win it all.
>>152998633Machado, Tatis, Bogaerts.
>>152998648They're better than they were last year, probably won't be as injured, and their competition has gotten worse, why wouldn't they threepeat?
>>152998656Age and bullpen inconsistency. Those who watch this team understand. My World Series pick is Blue Jays over Phillies.
>>152998100All the Mets have that compares to the Dodgers is Cohen's wallet. They have none of the front office, scouting, and talent development competence that makes the Dodgers a smart and successful organization.
>>152998667>citing age as a negative factor then picking the Phillies to beat them stoppit
what is the Final Solution to the Dodger problem?
Did people miss out on Realmuto just re-signing with Phillies a half an hour ago?
>>152998633The 2hu restraining order and security measures are not cheap
>>152998690No? We've been talking about it.
It's not just the TV Deal that gives the Dodgers an edge. Ohtani would be popular anywhere, but in Los Angeles he's an industry unto himself. Deadass, only SF and maybe SD could have maximized his financial potential.
Wait, we got Bo Bichette? Where the hell is he gonna play?
>>152998590my big market sneks :)
>>152998694>let me iiiiiiiiiinnnnnnn
>>152998710>SF and maybe SDNah. New York, but let's be real, the Yankees don't even try anymore.
>>152998711Bust Baty is gone dude.
>>152998727Don't minimize the additional 5.5 hours of travel that adds for tourists.
>>152998614Never sat up there but you probably want sunglasses or a cap before the sun sets
>>152998711mets roster construction is like when I used to do fantasy drafts in mlb the show when I was 10 and just pick all my favorite players no matter what positions they played and let the CPU sort it out
>>152998742or Dodger games starting at a more reasonable hour in the morning then a yankee game for the Japanese market
>>152998742Anon, New York is the most visited city in the country, if not the whole world too. The point is the Giants and Padres don't even come close to being as flagship as the Dodgers and Yankees are. Any larger than life amounts of endorsements will need those logos only. Everyone knows what's holding the Yankees back from maximizing their own brand and it's not, muh tourism
>>152998735That's not bad honestly. But isn't Bichette a defensive liability?Also, we still need starting pitching and we are in DIRE need of another OF. Cannot have Tyrone Taylor out there every day. I trust Benge to deliver.>>152998752Also, if Bichette is at 3B and Baty fills in at 1B, then that pushes Polanco into FT DH. That means Vientos needs to be traded, too.
Top Remaining Free Agents (From MLBTR's Top 50 FAs):>1. Kyle Tucker - LAD $240M / 4yrs>2. Bo Bichette - NYM $126M / 3yrs>3. Dylan Cease - TOR $210M / 7yrs>4. Munetaka Murakami - CWS $34M / 2yrs>5. Alex Bregman - CHC $175M / 5yrs6. Framber Valdez>7. Tatsuya Imai - HOU $63M / 3yrs8. Cody Bellinger>9. Kyle Schwarber - PHI $150M / 5yrs>10. Ranger Suarez - BOS $130M / 5yrs>11. Pete Alonso - BAL $155M / 5yrs>12. Josh Naylor - SEA $92.5M / 5yrs>13. Edwin Diaz - LAD $69M / 3yrs>14. Michael King - SDP $75M / 3yrs15. Zac Gallen>16. Devin Williams - NYM $45M / 3yrs>17. Brandon Woodruff - MIL $22.05M / 1yr>18. Trent Grisham - NYY $22.05M / 1yr>19. Kazuma Okamoto - TOR $60M / 4yrs20. Eugenio Suarez>21. Robert Suarez - ATL $45M / 3yrs>22. Shota Imanaga - CHC $22.05M / 1yr>23. Jorge Polanco - NYM $20M / 2yrs24. Chris Bassitt>25. Merrill Kelly - ARI $40M / 2yrs>26. Brad Keller - PHI $22M / 2yrs27. Lucas Giolito>28. Ha-Seong Kim - ATL $20M / 1yr>29. J.T. Realmuto - PHI $45M / 3yrs>30. Ryan O'Hearn - PIT $29M / 2yrs31. Harrison Bader>32. Raisel Iglesias - ATL $16M / 1yr33. Nick Martinez34. Luis Arraez35. Zack Littell>36. Ryan Helsley - BAL $28M / 2yrs>37. Gleyber Torres - DET $22.05M / 1yr38. Justin Verlander>39. Cody Ponce - TOR $30M / 3yrs>40. Kyle Finnegan - DET $19M / 2yrs>41. Luke Weaver - NYM $22M / 2yrs>42. Tyler Rogers - TOR $37M / 3yrs43. Seranthony Dominguez>44. Pete Fairbanks - MIA $13M / 1yr>45. Gregory Soto - PIT $7.75M / 1yr>46. Emilio Pagan - CIN $20M / 2yrs>47. Tyler Mahle - SFG $10M / 1yr48. Max Scherzer49. Victor Caratini>50. Willi Castro - COL $12.8M / 2yrs
>>152998770Mets are going to bumble into giving Polanco the only roster spot that makes any sense.
>>152998677they have the best farm in the gamehttps://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/46070464/2025-mlb-prospect-rankings-update-farm-systems-30-teams-mets-dodgers-mariners
>>152998755I'm not gonna downplay the West Coast being more ideal for a Japanese player, it always will be for good reasons. For a Dominican player though, the best opportunities are clearly in New York. It's funny, Miami really should be in that conversation but their slimy Jew owners don't even think twice about how their potential could be.
>>152998791Nah, holy shit, I got it. I'm not even memeing.Baty played a couple of games in the OF last season. They are gonna move Baty to CF to platoon/split with Taylor while Benge plays LF.Bichette 3B. Polanco 1B/DH. Vientos DH.IT MAKES SENSE!
>>152998765The Mets are the flagship team of New York though.
>>152998823get this retard a lifetime ban from Citi Field. fuck this moron. I refuse to share a team with him
>>152998823Don't make me laugh anon not even Mets fans believe that
>Just want to make sure I got this: The team accentuating "run prevention" will play a guy (Polanco) at 1B who has no MLB innings there and another at 3B (Bichette) with no MLB innings there. Funny, I think I still like the moves. More when I am back from vacation next week.Only the Mets will you have writers make shit like this up. Polanco might not play first all the time, they might put Vientos or Baty there. Bichette might be 2nd or LF. They have so many infielders for that flexibility reason. Yet these writers are too dense up their ass
>>152998847Puma? DiComo? Martino? What do those three wop dagos have in common?
Ey im fuckin rootin fuh da Mets ova hea. Da Mets baby da Mets!!
>>152998847Who gives a shit what they think. Put Semien at 3B and Bichette at 2B. Baty can definitely play in the OF. Polanco is going to be notably better at 1B than Pete was.As a Mets fan, I can confidently say we have the most retarded fanbase in sports, possibly only eclipsed by the Yankees. That's the problem with New Yorkers. Every single downstate asshole thinks his opinion carries weight.
>>152998863https://voca.ro/196Qn7RE4BpF
Love those Mets baby! What’s Joe Beningo sayin about da Bo deal ah??
>>152998868>the most retarded fanbase in sportsNobody tell him about Eagles fans, and before people say Phillies should be included there's a huge intellectual difference between Eagles fans and Phillies fans
>>152998620>capIt will never happen unless owners/league are willing to go full nuclear and do another '94 at the relative height of recent baseball interest. It's a non-starter. What they could reasonably do is make it so endless spending kills your draft pool, blocks IFA spending, etc. The goal should be preventing the big money clubs from facerolling their way to the playoffs eternally, not punishing spending outright
>>152998831My Zohanies make ya seethe??
Ya don root forda Mets?! GET OUTTA MY SLICE SHOP!!
>>152998894Cap might be unavoidable at this point, the problem is you're going to have to make it at $500M or higher if you want a middle ground. And raise it every 5 years to further placate the PA
>>152998886He doesn't care bro, he's not Pete. The little genius can shove it.
my tigers aren’t being cheap. they’re setting themselves for post-lockout long term success. harris playing 18d chess
>>152998913Also abolishing the luxury tax in place for this. Make the floor well over $200M too. Enough of these Bob Nuttings and John Fishers. Force them to spend.
>>152998765I see your point anon, and I can't disagree with that. The Yankees are still the most globally recognized brand. Dodgers are getting closer at second, mainly cause they're in baseball loving asian markets.
>>152998931New Tigers fan here, how much will we get for Skub?
>>152998677No team chemistry either. That went out when Jose Iglesias left. Congrats on the Bichette signing...Mets will be 3rd in the division now instead of 4th, maybe.
>>152998811
>I like to say my philosophy is run prevention>i haz new idea>imma acquire a terrible defensive shortstop>and imma make him play third base>even though 3B is a position he has never played before>and then imma acquire another terrible defensive shortstop>and imma make him play first base>even though 1B is a position he has never played before>run prevention, yo>because I are a geniusmest bros, I feel bad for you
My metsies are doin it big, ‘uge even!! Love da Mets!
>>152998936We're entering a point where if the Yankees continue to be a dinosaur, the Dodgers are going to end up the most globally recognized brand. And few if any Yankees fans talk about this grim reality coming their way. With how their current offseason is going, I'd say they're right on track to being dethroned. You know if George were still alive chairs would be thrown in front office meetings with the current state of the team... right?
>>152998953Could also be Bichette 2B and Semien 3B to optimize defense.
>>152998948projected to be 3rd in baseball and 2nd in nl east before the bo signingwe might be looking at an nl east title now
>>152998960He looks like a Nice Jewish Boy. You know the kind that the jappy hoes of Long Island are told to date.
>>152998960Wasn’t Alonso literally the worst defensive 1B last year? Can’t get worse than worst no?
>>152998965simian is a gold glove 2b, bichette isn't
>>152998979we need deeper SP before we can confidently compete with the Dodgers. I trust McLean fully, think Peterson is very undervalued and will grow more. Holmes is a great backend guy. Senga could be elite in a 6 man rotation but he's gotta find something consistent outside of the ghost fork. Manaea sucks imo but he's good for the clubhouse and can eat innings and doesn't get rattled. one of Sproat or Tong needs to hitwe need to sign an ace who can give 180 innings
>>152999000checked
>>152998962We don’t care about da yanks we love da Mets!!
>>152999000Coward
>>152998847>we want to prioritize defense>heres 2 dudes that are shit at defense just stick em somewhere it will workThey fucked the offseason plan so much they just said fuck it kek
Padrebros, when did Jon and Jim go off the air?
>>152999000And there it is
glad we let pete walk to leave these exciting options open. sigh see you in march bois
>>152999018Copyright suit by Jom & Jake
fuck all this free agent talk. the real question is will the cubs suck lol poster get the 9 get and cement the cusb curse for the 2026 season?
>>152999037>cubes
lots of teams winning in the offseason. things are gonna be good in reg. season
>YankeesA team from Baltimore >MetsA team born and bred in New York City
>>152998789dodgers only signed two guys, why is everyone so mad
>>152999080Forgetting Andy Ibanez?
>>152999080For me it's Justin Dean. Who got let go, signed by SF, then let go before playing a single game.
>>152998913>>152998935>$500M cap with no luxury taxDodgers are at $400M this year, you're going to give them $100M more to play with? Yeah fuck Nutting, Fisher, Attanasio, Sterberg, hell even Henry and the Ricketts are cheap as hell for their market. But there's no way the Cleveland Guardians can sustain $200M+ payrolls in the near future. Yes there's owners crying poor and they SHOULD pay more, there's also 3-6 teams in the league that can spend in the same strasophere year-in and year-out as the Dodgers. You're just running up against the realities of population and COL imbalances.
>>152999100oh, yeah, nevermind, i understand the anger now
>>152999015cohen had to step in and make something happen after dime store genius buttfucked the team because he was mad pete homered off his pet closer from his old team
>>152999112It's not giving leeway to the Dodgers, the players are only going to compromise when the cap gets a high enough value for them to be satisfied if they should be.
>>152999112They don't have to spend at the Dodgers level. They just have to spend. If every team was actively trying to spend, it would bring the market up across the board and make it significantly more challenging for the Dodgers to just sign every major free agent they want.
>>152999149It was reported Stearns was hopping mad over that home run. He was so close to getting rid of Pete and the core.
Do you think Josh Naylor has realized he cost himself tens of millions of dollars by signing early? Mariners got a fucking steal
>>152999112i don't want baseball to become nfl or nba. i like the league as it is. it has always been a league of haves and have nots. the priority needs to be unifying all the teams under the same tv deal thoughever.
>>152999171Not to mention, the small market centrals already face a disadvantage anyways. No one's going to want to play in say, Cleveland over LA. If you're from Ohio maybe you would but if both teams offered the same deal, which one would you pick if you were an average MLB player?>>152999202Not really, for all we know maybe he hasn't reached his true potential yet. His deal is right where it should be.
Anyone that thinks a salary cap is a real possibility is deluding themselves. The players will never accept a salary cap. They would never even consider it without a significantly high salary floor. The big clubs won't go along with a salary cap without significant changes to revenue sharing. The cheap ass owners would much rather continuing to collect free money from revenue sharing and the luxury tax while keeping their payroll low.
>>152999181Lmao no it wasn’t
>>152999202You gotta get'em early, before the Dodgers see 'em.
>>152999206the TV deals are the crux of the haves and have nots. Ticket sales are a drop in the bucket compared to the money these teams with exclusive TV deals make.
>>152999221there is another class of owners, though. clubs like the cardinals who have seen their revenue streams that kept them reasonably competitive basically wiped out. detroit was another team that was a big spender in not so distant history.
>>152999221That's why I specifically played Devil's Advocate, as many people firmly believe a salary cap is inevitable because blue team bad. If it were to exist it'd have to be met with a generously high floor and be higher than most if not all current payrolls today. Future threads might not understand, but until people stop falling for and being highly impressionable loser propaganda, nothing's gonna change except maybe a system that curbs the Dodgers just a little more in whatever standoff may come.
>>152999171>they don't have to spend at the Dodgers' levelThey can't spend at half the Dodgers current level lmao. Their highwater mark was $134M in 2018 (2 years removed from a WS run, league median that year) which is about $180M today. There are bad owners skimming and yes, teams could spend a little more, but not to the level suggested here (>>152998935) leaguewide without a massive new national deal or including more revenue steams in league sharing. Yes you are right in general that teams being forced to spend more would theoretically push teams to bid higher (even though it wouldn't change the ultimate outcome of where they go).>>152999163I don't think the players ever agree to a cap, even theoretically, but the suggestion that you just bump up the cap well beyond what the Dodgers are already spending doesn't fix the problem, it just sorta kicks the can down the road. Any hypothetical cap would either be too low (and the players wouldn't agree to it) or too high (and the Dodgers/Mets/Yankees/etc. can still outspend 60% of the league without breaking a sweat).
>>152999245And you know how to fix that? Nationalize it. Keep the local broadcasting crews, but no unfair practices and get rid of the blackout for fuck's sake. It's deeply concerning that more than half of the league is going to resort to MLB taking over current TV deals because FanDuel and others are incompetent.
>>152999206>I don't want parityYou gonna tell me which team you root for honestly, or am I talking to the one Rays/Brewers/A's fan in the genny
Gonna need you guys to decided if you’re pro cap or anti soon so I can be a contrarian about it. Thanks.
these short contracts have me thinking that agents are really predicting a long lockout soon and pushing MONEY NOW
>>152999245>>152999280The tv rights are all expiring and the league will run its own streaming service, this will result in a soft salary cap just by rejiggering the whole financials.
>>152999287I'm for it, only if they make it high enough so that it gets the small market teams to start fucking spending on their homegrown products and not let them walk away or trade them away before they hit free agency.
My Athbrewrays :)
>>152999287I don't care either way. Bad owners is always the problem
i see no problems with what the dodgers are doing
>>152998789That Murakami number is funny when you see the numbers around it.
>>152998931Illitch has given up
>>152999318My Mariners could just spend a little more, whining about the Dodgers wouldn't change a thing.
We need spending floors, which should be at least 50% of revenue.We need spending caps or very heavy penalties, e.g., taking away more draft picks, higher taxes which other teams MUST spend on club operations, etc. You have to make it so that owners can't just pocket the money.
>>152999287nullify all current contracts and hold a universal free agency with a hard cap on AAV at 20 million and 10 yearsfuck the players, baseball is americas sport not a money laundering scheme
>>152999325More like he was wildly overrated from the start. For the record I think he's going to be the White Sox's version of Byung Ho Park. He'll hit more home runs but that batting average and K rate will be baaaaaaaaaaaad
https://litter.catbox.moe/zyf79iiqtssucv36.mp4
>>152999325He should have never been the #4 ranked free agent to begin with tbqhwudesubaka
>>152999220But I was told no one likes FaveLA
>>152999287no cap, no floor, everyone has to spend exactly $225M per year. problem solved
>>152999347
>>152999349Why should I care about what MIGAtards have to say about the best opportunity in MLB
The main thing many refuse to acknowledge about the dodgers is that the organization is as good if not better than the actual talent itself, they have been a very consistent team for more than a decade, in a sport where there hasn't been a back-to-back in 2 decades.If salary cap comes, they will adapt just like how they have been adapting all these years, players will also want to go to the dodgers even more than now because they will still have momentum
if /mlb/ gets the >>152999999 kek scuba there will be a cap in 2028.
>>152999347>miss out on a player they didn't necessarily need>fails to realize they needed Realmuto way more than a sub 50 power and shit defense guyHe should be happy, Kevin Patullo got ran out of town
mlb is about to start capping development technology because the cheap teams don't want to pay for it. letting the poor teams lead will put this league in the grave for good
>>152999396Do they use a software?
>>152999347people actually watch this?
>>152999389Realmuto is old, his arm at best has one year left in the throwing a guy out at second which in itself is slipping via being too slow or becoming a wild throw. His hitting is dogshit too.
>>152999396Who's bitching about kneecapping R&D. We're talking MLB payrolls
