why haven't we gotten any better at soccer
>>154408042It's the hardest sport in the world to get good at, it's not like handegg where just being athletic is enough to be good at it.
>>154408042everyone else got better too
>>154408042That was against Italy
>>154408042Private school sport. High cost of entry. Lack of an academy system. The weird college sports system.By the time you get to the u21 level, you have already filtered out the lion's share of your prospective talent. The rest just end up working at Del Taco, if they aren't snapped up by European Academies.
>>154408042because we dont care and will never care >>154408085what part of latin america are you from?
>>154408169This t. Del Taco manager
>>154408169Even Zlatan complained about how expensive it can get in the US.
No promotion & relegation
>>154408169Hasn't been true in 2 decades faggot
>>154408618when the most self-centred player in history notices it and is concerned, you have a problem
>>154408169>Private school sport. High cost of entry. Lack of an academy system. The weird college sports system.This is fucking retarded. You listed four reasons, and only one of them is even REMOTELY valid. The biggest roadblock to the US improving is >>154408197Nobody fucking cares.
>>154408686Is it a problem? What exactly is the incentive to get better at a third tier sport in this country?
>>154408042>why haven't we gotten any better at soccerYeah you absolutely have. Compare your National team squad now to 20 years ago. Its genuinely a vast improvement half your team now play in champions league teams. Before that you had Kasey Keller, Clint Dempsey, Landon Donovan and Tim Howard
>>154408956We're getting worse results
>>154408974>>154408087
>>154408042When Mexico is your ceiling international football looks like a distant galaxy.
>>154408956Not at all the previous generations were scrappier and more skilled.If you haven't watched the US team full of MLS players do yourself a favor and don't.The game against Netherlands is best example of the gap between USA and top interest sides https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7kH-EQbMprI
>>154410107>>154408087
>>154410107A lot of those players weren't mls guys
>>154408042???
>>154408042We have, but at the cost of identity/attitude. This is the first group of players that came up through academies attached to pro teams. Its still culturally not something that kids love and follow, thats really never gonna change. Now we have a horrible mix of prima Donnas and a shitty team.
>>154408169This is no longer accurate, though it was
I played with a guy who made it to MLS :)
>>154408691>play sports nobody cares about>git gud>win some local comp and pretend to be World ChampionsIsn't that America's niche?
>>154410757>play sports nobody cares aboutWe care about them dumbassAnd we're the only country that matters
>>154408197t. Cletus>>154408042The USMNT, along with the USWNT and the USYNT, will have a national training facility and HQ in Atlanta, Georgia, next month.A massive game-changer.
>>154410107Ugh. Those first two goals were bad enough but that fucking third one takes the cake. The replay doesn't even capture how literally walked down the entire sideline unmarked, waving hello to fans and passers-by. Bright orange jersey, bright yellow cleats, not a single US eyeball on him. Fuck this dumb gay team. I hope we don't make it out of the first round. I doubt we'd have even qualified if we weren't hosting.
>Bad Soccer Pyramid >MLS has been a cancer to the development of the game>most talented athletes never even try and focus on other sports>Profitability >poor best youth soccer development >need a dedicated wealthy entrepreneur to get USA Soccer heads out their assesIt's one of those things where if the USA said tomorrow "WE'RE GOING ALL IN" they would be a top Soccer Nation we have the population and talent we just don't have the want to do it.
>>154411774>most talented athletes never even try and focus on other sportsonly americans say this stupid shit. as if merely being ""athletic"" means you could become an elite footballer.football talent is about much more than autistic physical stat sheets.
>>154411774Complaints about MLS are kinda dumb Like who do you think that any kind of billionaire ran league would be done anything differently? Do you think soccer would have any kind of chance in this country if it was "organically" grown?
>>154411774>the US will never have a gorillion clubs>next best thing is school sports>just copy Belgium's approach that started yielding results from 2008 onwards>from 2v2 in small spaces to 11v11 on a full-sized pitch as kiddos progress through several age groups from 6yo-18yoIt's dirt-cheap to provide youth/school programs with the necessary materials and education. Guess there are elite (sports) schools in the US as well with better coaching and competitions for the top talents that filter through from other schools. The FA could employ a few people and help raise the quality of coaching.
>>154412291I just can't imagine my local Y doing shit like that
>>154408042Why do you feel entitled in becoming better?
>>154412361Faustian spirit
>>154412414Real favstians just get good
>>154408042Call me weird but I think we are holding back a lot. Everyone hates us, Belgium didn't play by the rules and they play us too hard for a "friendly" nobody has really seen us play like full power. We will make it to Elite 8 I think.
>>154412432How would you know?
>>154412619Cause I won the world 5 times
We got sidetracked by gridiron football while the rest of the world sunk trillions of dollars into development.
>>154412639>Cause I won the world 5 times
>>154413124>Bulgaria
>>154413124>favela rigNot Brazil but based nonetheless
>>154408042we're PUMMELING PORTUGAL
>>154408042SUM only cares about money. They dont want to pay for youth camps or building the sport, they want people to tune in to watch the game. They wont help bring parity to the league, they want an LA team in the final and people tuning into watch messias for the NT, our coach is a fucking fraud and the kids just dont fucking care about the crest, I guess
>>154410307my wife on the center left
>>154413349I support Carli Lloyd because she is unpleasant on what seems like a fundamental level
>>154413340>muh SUMwhat year is it lol
>>154408042I think you did, but there is this weird idea that usmnt can get better and catch up with the top countries as if they were doing nothing and just waited for you. They are getting better too and often in a higher tempo
>>154408956Dempsey, Donovan and Howard are a better core than what they have now. Who is this "half your team now play in champions league teams"? The annihilators of Serie Ass? It's that league that's gotten worse.
Americans did better when they were the happy go lucky team, now that they are trying hard they can't even reach the quarter finals.
>>154408042white people play baseballblack people play footballthe rest play soccer
>>154417189who plays basketball?
>>154417200The rest
>>154408627TRVTHNVKE
>>154408042To get good American need these thingsPromotion/relegationget rid of the drafthave club academies where you can sign 12 year old kids and raise them as cattleonly hire European coaches
haven't gone dooping mental enough
