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Is it really that hard to become a professional football player if your parents force you into it?

I don't meant the top of top, that's obviously some weird genetic mutations going on but just professional that can make it into some bottom tier La Liga or Serie A clubs, like Real Sociedad or Verona
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>>154438188
My father spent years trying me to be good in football. I cant do keepie uppies.
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>>154438626
Is it because of your attention span or motor control.
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There are too many variables. One is what the other Brazilian anon said. Sometimes the kid just never develop the necessary spatial awareness or motor skills to be good at football. But then there is the even more unpredictable physical development of the kid. If you aren't able to keep up with the more precocious boys at 15 or 16, you'll fall behind and your career will be at risk unless you're exceptionally talented to make up for your slower development. A late bloomer that starts gaining more muscle in his early 20s will naturally be more likely to never become a footballer. Not to mention injuries.

There are roughly 130,000 professional footballers in the world. Even if you were to become a pro (the odds are very low), there are about 1,500 players in the Big Five leagues. This means a shitter who has been benched in Hellas Verona for the past 5 years is still in the top 0.01% among professionals.
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I had a friend who made it to the pros.
At school and in my town's club, he was mogging everyone, like those videos of stars dabbing and dribbling the entire opposing team when they were like 10.
Then he went into some shitty Ligue 2 team academy.
Years later I heard he got transferred to Lille and he only made one appearance for like the last 10 minutes of a game where the team was ridden with injuries.
I remember how surreal it was to see him on TV but bro was completely lost, his touches were terrible and he was getting punched around by literally everyone. He went back to the U21 and never played with the main team again, then played for some shitty teams in random ass countries and came back home to become some kind of accountant or something.

It was pretty eye opening how a guy who was a god at a young age in some regional league was a complete bum around actual pros.
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>>154443661
Most people never find out just how huge a gap there is from talented amateur to actual professional, no matter the sport.
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>>154443661
The weird thing is that you can't point to a single variable like, it's so complicated.

If you see Griezmann on the street or a beach, he's just another guy.
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>but just professional that can make it into some bottom tier La Liga or Serie A clubs, like Real Sociedad or Verona

Are you a retard?

To get anywhere near those leagues you have to be insanely good and get the lucky breaks that allow you to pursue your dream. The right academy at the right time, that kind of thing.

Put it this way, there are thousands upon thousands of kids who "have trials" at English clubs with academies. Even the lucky ones that get in might get released after a couple of years. Even the ones who "graduate" to u23 level might never play for their Championship or PL team or make one appearance in a Cup game, go on loan to a League Two team for 6 games, get bullied on the pitch, get released, and then either sink or swim playing in the 7th tier whilst working as a PE teacher in the week or something.

I don't think you realise how you're only seeing the top of a huge spire on TV with hundreds of levels below it. If any professional player looks bad to you, he'd come to your local park and look like Messi if you played him. A PL or La Liga or Serie A player would be like an alien coming down.
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>>154443912
The current academy system is garbage and rigged in favor of ngubus and other subhuman early bloomers, in talking about an era where scouting becomes the norm again.
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>>154438188
Don't know. I live in a 33k small town. Thre's a guy who played in several bottom tier clubs of the first division. He know owns a restaurant where he waits tables. He also buys homes in villages, renovates them, and sells them with a big profit.
He is smart and didn't midn to get his hands dirty, so perhaps indeed there is a good thing parents can do for thir children by forcing them to play football, and hopefully they are good enough to play for a shit club but still earn a very good sallary.
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>>154444229
>He now owns a restaurant where he waits tables.

That's based.
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The gaps are insane. My brother plays in the 8th tier and is seen as one of the best players in his league. No normal person would consider him a bad footballer. One of his teammates is friends with a guy who plays in the 5th tier, that guy trained with my brother‘s team for a bit during preseason. My brother described him as seemingly superhuman, and he was definitely not going all out. But put that guy with our local 3rd tier club and he’s the biggest bum. Put the best player of that team with the average Bundesliga team and he’s the biggest bum. And then put the best player from the average Bundesliga team with Bayern and he’s the biggest bum (with a few exceptions perhaps)
With millions of kids playing and all these competitions and clubs on the hunt, the pressure and skill level simply is ridiculously high. And yet you usually cannot pinpoint what exactly makes a player stand out enough to make it as a pro. In any case, it is crazy. I know so many people who I thought were incredibly good, but they ended up going nowhere despite putting in a lot of work
Your parents pushing you and making you put in extra effort can definitely give you the edge. But only if you have crazy talent to begin with
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>>154443912
But you also have cases liek Olivier Giroud or Jamie Vardie, who never had a proper academy training, started climbing, trial and error, improving, and then winning many trophies.
Giroud was 25 years old laying in 2nd league in France. WHen he hang up his boots, has a wc medal, ucl medal, el medal, fa cup medal from two diferent clubs, seria a title.
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>>154444380
Vardie is such a great human being, how based can a life story be.
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>>154444380

I'm not saying edge cases don't exist, I'm just saying what a statistical meat grinder youth football is. And replying to OPs post that seems to think if he had a boy tomorrow and Project Mbappe'd him, he would be guaranteed to even play regularly for a 6th tier side here or a 4th tier side in Portugal, when that is very unlikely.

Besides, Giroud joined Grenoble at 13, sure he worked his way up from there but it's not like he was some mystery. Ligue 2 is still a very high league to end up in, higher than 99% of kids who join an academy. Jamie Vardy was at Sheffield Wednesday's academy and released like many other kids, but after two seasons at Stocksbridge rapidly rose through non-league and Leicester took a punt on him. Basically once they were aware of his ridiculous talent he quickly found his level.

Ian Wright is maybe one case, had a couple of trials in his teens, went to prison, but then played Sunday League until he was 22 and signed for Greenwich Borough before Crystal Palace then Arsenal.
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>>154444533
>And replying to OPs post that seems to think if he had a boy tomorrow and Project Mbappe'd him, he would be guaranteed to even play regularly for a 6th tier side here or a 4th tier side in Portugal, when that is very unlikely.

Yeah exactly, it worked for the chess prodigy Judit Polgár, she was basically dad's science experiment.
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pumping, it's an interesting topic
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>>154438188
Not hard to become a professional if you're willing to play in the middle of nowherestan for lunch money
Extremely hard to play even for a shitter team in a good league



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