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he's not that good is he
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>>154541622
>Best arsenal in EPL history needed refball after a 500 million transfer window to beat this team
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>>154541635
1 trophy out of 40 in 10 years isn't good lil bro
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>>154541635
VAR robbed Arsenal a blatant penalty last week yes, and gave one to Atletico that wasn't. Against everything and everyone
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god I want mourinho back to la liga to call simeone a specialist in failure
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>>154541622
Is he really getting paid more than pep?
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>better than Bilbao, Sevilla, Valencia, Sociedad

So he's the world champion and record winner outside the Spanish duopoly.. Explains his high salary. OP must be a casual
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>>154541622
The league is tough with those other 2 teams, but you'd think he would have won a domestic cup here and there.
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>you're supposed to win titles
>no, it doesn't matter that you're competing to Real Madrid and Barça
Being a bother to Real Madrid and Barça every season is the best any spanish club has done in the last 15 years, outside of the big two obviously. There's only a handful of clubs around Europe that could do the same season after season.
He's not bad because he doesn't win. He's bad because he refuses to evolve and can't deal with any kind of player who isn't a defensive powerhouse that would literally kill for him. Just look at Baena and Sorloth numbers back in Villareal and compare it to what they're doing under Simeone.
In terms of titles, he should've won more Copas del Rey, sure, but only Real and Barça have the expectations of winning everything every season.
I want him gone, but let's not pretend what he's done is easy
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>>154542008
he's just shit, if at least he could win domestic cups... his tactics and football mindset aren't made to win leagues. and what's with his stupid habit of rushing in the lockerroom when his team won a game?
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>arteta and simeone yellow carded, and berta causing shit
Why are Mediterraneans so hotheaded.
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>>154542112
>he's just shit,

no u
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The club hasn't finished below 4th under him since 2012 and he has a 57+ win %. This is all in the Sunny SPL.
In this day and age only plastics get upset with that.
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>>154541622
La Liga is so uncompetitive that being the only non Madrid or Barca team do anything in the last 13 years or so will keep him eternally employed there. Go look at the trophy counts of the Spanish clubs after Atletico and it’s dire. In any given other league, he’s mediocre but in Spain he’s king
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>>154541622
He was never good. He got River Plate relegated.
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>>154541635
Atletico spent half a billion in the last two season
And I'm not even mentioning João Felix
People still act like they're sorry ass underdogs when in reality they're far from everyone as the 3rd richest team in La Liga, only behind Farçadrid because it's impossible to compete with them
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>>154541622
the copa del rey is actually quite impressive considering since messinaldo left they fumbled it several times to teams like valencia, betis and sociedad
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Clubs that have won the CdR over the last 10 years: Valencia, Betis, Athletic, Sociedad x2.
All combined have spent less than simione. Le hecking third best club in the country defense doesn't work anymore.
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>>154542008
Sensible post
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>>154541760
Pep gets a lot more in bonuses
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He's consistently third in a two horse race. That's better than how Atletico did before him.
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He put Atletico on the map as a big club (again), together, they were seen as title contenders in Europe for a long time. That's impressive, he did well and showed a lot of consistency. You can't really blame him for not winning tons of titles, where were Atletico before him? But yes, they choked in many key moments/games and looked foolish all too often
I kind of dislike Simeone and Atletico for their antics, but you have to cut him some slack
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>>154541725
>against everything and everyone
i thought only greeks and specifically vazelia trakopaida use this phrase
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>>154542556
don't look up what Arsenal have spent or what they have won
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wait I thought only barca and real madrid mattered. don't tell me we're hyping this dude up cause he's argentinian
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>>154541635
Seething retard lmao the absolute state of you HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>154542008
The only reason why he hasn't won more is because of your FA's blatant favourtism toward the top 2. Put those 2 teams in Germany, France or England and they'd be playing second fiddle or worse in any of them.
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>>154541635
>thirdie seethe and cope
you love to see it
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>>154541622

Atleti’s natural state is having everything with a red cross
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Football has evolved past him, defensive football is pretty much dead in Europe



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