Has he lived up to the hype? Or did he never really reach his full potential?>Won the CL just 3 times - last time was in 2015(!)>Spend the last 6 years doing fuck all in Paris and Miami, purely driven by greed >Only international succes is post-covid, completely tainted by corruption. World cup was gifted in a desperate last ditch effort to give him some form of legacy>Never had any international succes in his prime Having seen him entering the game at Barcelona he looked to become the greatest to ever do it. Instead his career just took a nosedive in 2015.
oh no, the biggest collector of silverware in football history has disappointed some random bobo.
Better than ronaldo
>wins the World Cup despite France getting two penalties
you basement dwelling retards, nothing and no one is ever good enough for you
>>154586285I'm not a messi fan (never watch international games so don't care) but he and cristiano makes a good argument to what happened to many stars in the past, the revisionism. "haaland is better than ronaldo" "ronaldinho was only flair" "pelé/beckenbaur/cruyff/di stefano played againt farmers"it's inevitable. as soon as players stop playing, they dont serve anything and any middle crap in the present is better. messi for example won't sustain his "better of all time" title he had during past 10 years, not even for 5 years. saying this just to put in perspective what we think about players, not that they deserve or don't deserve the status we put on them
>>154586285>Instead his career just took a nosedive in 2015.Correct, in part because of Barcelona's decline. Barcelona have yet to make a single CL final since then
Don't you ever get tired of doing the same song and dance over and over
>>154586285Me personally, I'm just looking forward to the WC and the public tag team destruction of Antonella's asshole by Trump and CR7 after the GOAT will have won his WC and trampled Pissi Cuckitini into the dirt where he belongs as the vile creature that he is. For it is of old rumour that the soul of the devil-bought hastes not from his charnel clay, but fats and instructs the very worm that gnaws; till out of corruption horrid life springs, and the dull scavengers of earth wax crafty to vex it and swell monstrous to plague it. Great holes secretly are digged where earth’s pores ought to suffice, and things have learnt to walk that ought to crawl - Iä! RIGGI NIGGIRATH
>>154586285whos that
He Pecho Frio'd in some UCL rus, but the Barcelona team also fucking colapsed in some occasions like 2013, 2020, 2019, 2018
>>154586285He was just a midget with skills. He never had the aura or leadership of Maradona.
There was never that much hype to begin with. Joao Felix, Foden and Yamal had the journos creaming their underpants way more than Messi at their respectable ages. Mbappe was professed to win a Ballon D'Or before he's 25, back when he was just 18-19.
>>154586285who's that
>>154586285>never had any international success in his primeIn his prime half of the team he played with had generational forwards like Tevez and Higuain and the other half was shitters barely holding the line like Biglia and Otamendi, if Messi didnt play the way he did against Venezuela for the last batch of qualifiers in 2017 we straight up would have missed the 2018 WC, we were THAT bad.
>dwarf drug cheat>would be dribbling balls at stoplights without drugs>negriera baby>xavi, inesta, di maria baby>UEFA's pet>CON-ME-BOL's pet>FIFA's pet>QATAR's whore>copa america every 6 months for 10 years>6 penalties, 1 cupI audibly said "what the fuck, how the fuck did he do that" at least once a match most times I watched him play from 2008-2020, so I'll let it all slide
>>154586285he succeeded in mogging penaldo and that's what really matters
Just three times, eh? Only three little Champions League trophies? Wow, what a scrub. I've got 7.
>>154586285UEFAlona
>>154586285>Won the CL just 3 timeswinning the CL is hard if you are not playing for UEFAdrid. Bayern has won it twice in the last 15 years. AC Milan hasn't won it at all in that time frame. Liverpool, Man City, Chelsea, and PSG have won it once.
>>154586285>Xavi retirement in 2015>becomes absolute unreliable unpredictable dogshit at club level ever sincereally makes you think
>>154600049>>154603167No-name random players like Kovacic have 4 CLs
>>154587162The problem with Messi is that in our minds he stopped playing in 2020 while in reality he's apparently out there every weekend taking penalties and doing fuck all. Absolutely ruined his legacy
>>154586285Born to rig
>>154607649 Maradona, Pele, Ronaldo Fenomeno have 0 CLs, so its basicaly a Mickey Cup when it comes to ranking Goats
>>154587068wow it's almost like they rigged the whole cup so he can finally win it
>>154607649and so does messi. he was part of the squad in 2006
i'm a lifelong barca hater but even if i have come to terms that he's the best footballer of his generation. just so technically gifted, a tier above any other player that i've seen in terms of his passing, dribbling and scoring. eden hazard was the 3rd best player in the world for many years but he was still a couple tiers below ronaldo and then ronaldo was another tier below messi, from my point of view
>>154603167lol zoomie can't even remember uefalona
>>154608776They're too busy exposing VARdrid cheating.
>>154608776based Barca cucking the original oil club
>midgi hormonini
>>154586285He was sabotaged by a volcano and maradona as a coach when he was in his prime
>>154598246>negriera babythe tiktok compilations where Barcelona got like a hundred penalties for imaginary fouls back then are hilarious, makes La Liga look like some farmer pub league
>>154608652trvke
>>154588321most mentally sane chicano
>>154609282lol bayern customers are pathetic
>>154611171Name ONE thing which isn't true
>>154586285>tf>tp Cope and seethe, bobo
>>154586285My goat
>>154608776Ballack shouldve beenbexpelled before
>>154610773Show 10
Success, longevity and eye test. No player comes close to matching him on all 3.
i really thought op was american before entering the thread
>>154608776The ref made retarded decisions both ways, people only remember the 2nd leg
>>154586285O VAN TWAIN
Volumes...
>>154586285Already surpassed by Yamil laman
>>154622548Yamil human
>>154586285I watched his entire career from start to finish as an adult (same age as him), never did I think he was the best to do it. Zidane, Kaka and Ronaldinho at their peak were better
>>154590156Messi was declared the GOAT as early as 2010.
>>154611171you can tell he's gay for fantasizing about orgies including more than one guy
>>154586285think his main problem was his autism, he just wanted to stay comfy as long as possible. Still the greatest ever but as you said he could have won more titles during his prime
>>154623429also he cant lead shit, he's not a captain or a leader. he performed great under Xavi and Iniesta leadership but on his own he crumbled.
>>154586285riggi riggitini