Why does hockey feel so much more popular than Soccer in the USA?
Because Americans who "follow soccer" are more likely to follow foreign leagues than the MLS
>>154727670"Americans"it's all first gen migrants, most of whom don't even speak English. >>154727641 this is why, because the 'soccer fans' are all in their own little ethnic enclaves where they don't interact with Anglo society at all except to say "thank you come again"
americans will never truly follow a sport where they arent represented by the players this is why hockey is losing to soccer
>>154727670Exactly. If you like ice hockey, you will definitely watch the NHL, as it is the best and most popular league in the world. In the case of the US, it’s also the national league (sorry, Canada, the NHL has been taken from you in essence), so all of the attention focuses on it. The MLS is a much more irrelevant league with less history, so a lot of the attention from fans in the US is directed at other leagues, usually the big European competitions. But in America, these can never be as much of a media and publicity factor as one single American competitionPart of it, no offense, is that Americans can be very self-centered. But it also works for other countries. The Japanese and Korean baseball leagues are much larger than their respective football leagues, but Japanese and Koreans consume plenty of international football. Baseball and football are fairly close there, baseball has the upper hand in Japan while Korea is apparently more of a football nation now. But at first glance, you‘d think football is a very distant second there because their main domestic league is a baseball league. Part of that is also relative strength: how easy is it to be the 10th best nation on baseball or ice hockey? Certainly easier than being the 10th best in football. So you look better in one than in the other, and the former can become more of a national pride thing and take up more spaceAlso, football still is a pretty new thing for most Americans, and many people there are still pretty casual about it. No real fan presence or deep roots tying families together. That shapes public discourse
>>154727875>Part of it, no offense, is that Americans can be very self-centeredI don't think there's much to take offense at with this statement, personally part of the reason I like the big American four sports is that if my friends invite me I could take a drive into Boston and watch our team face whoever is visiting whether it's NYC or Chicago or Phoenix or whatever.With soccer I genuinely don't know how it works. I don't know if America has a team or if it's like divided into regions or if there's a stadium near me or if other countries travel here to play or what. I don't inherently dislike soccer and I assume it's about as interesting as something like basketball or hockey, it just doesn't have that history and local relevance like you mentioned which makes it basically impossible for it to really catch on
>>154727875acutally I'm pretty sure the mexican league is the most popular league in the US for soccer, lots of mexican immigrants still watch it
>>154727641It's just the media pretending there's a big 4
>>154727641Volleyball should be more popular in the United States
>>154727641>Boxing decently higher than MMAThat doesnt seem all that accurate to me but what do I know.
>>154727641>boxingI refuse to believe even a low double-digit number of Americans (or any Western state in general) could name a single boxer under 40, what kind of LARP is this?
>>154728736we like volleyball
>>154729268You tripping. Anywhere there are latinos there are boxing fans. Most minorities like boxing
>>154727641>Why does hockey feel so much more popular than Soccer in the USA?Because more Americans watch Hockey and more "Americans" watch Sawker. The image of a white dude watching Hockey is solid in everyone's mind, but so is the image of a Mexican American watching sawker (in the US)
>>154730279>America is 23% LATAM immigrants and chicanos
>>154727726>"Americans">it's all first gen migrantsThese make up most American nobel prize winners, by the way.
>>154727641Because you are one of two things, if not both1. You associate with only the white self-segregated part of America where hockey is far more liked. 2. Live in the north, where hockey is over represented in interest by these communities on the same par as basketball/baseball, in which covers for the south which has just about no viewership for hockey. It is the most popular regional sport
Even all this talk of hyphen Americans as the ones propping up soccer numbers feels overblown. We don’t actually get a lot of Hispanics from countries where it truly feels like the *only* sport. If all the Mexicans were replaced with Argentinians and Brazilians it would be a much different story, but nothing in soccer news ever set the Chicano world on fire like Fernandomania for instance.
>>154732897We just had a new Fernandomania over a hyped up latino athlete and that too wasn't about soccer.
People who like soccer here are watching at least 4 different leagues (Liga MX, MLS, USL, EPL) vs just NHL. I follow my local USL team because I get some of games on the same station baseball comes on and the league does not feel soulless. Some teams have been around for 30-40 years playing each other on shitty fields with almost no fans. Just out there for the love the game.
>>154730346yeah, just about.
