No girls allowed>Order of Playhttps://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/schedule>Scoresflashscore.com/tennis>Streamsfreestreams has fallenjokertvguide.sx/tennis-10---9d321bb2.htmlhttps://vkvideo.ru/@popovodutennisa/liveshttps://www.vipbox.sc/tennis-livehttps://tennisonline.me/atp-tour-online-streamPrevious>>156572120
Djokovic you gotta retire or someone will make a washed unc montage of you :(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0E3i_J2z8M8
>>156575867Bro scored bobs
>>156575911god dammit they are everywhere
>>156575917mostly in britain and canada
>>156575818I've seen him in real life. He's very handsome but a lot skinnier than what you see on TV I'd say if he wasn't playing tennis he'd have an eating disorder. He's man of one word sentences tooI think I remember reading at 13 years old he was still 35kgs
I just smashed my keyboard. He isnt even trying anymore.
>B-but he's still making the semis, why should he retire?To him, if he can't win a GS anymore there's no point in playing, it's obvious Sinner and grug won't give him a single opportunity, the weak era is over grandpa, retire!
Say hello broo
>>156575936it's not. every country is getting jeeted.
>>156576001he will defecate in your mouth
Newwww
>>156576055grim
Sinner just makes tennis boring to watch. He's going to beat Zverev in straight sets too. This is probably the worst Wimbledon ever.
>>156576055
>>156574669Yeah I'm going to bedI need to wake up in 3 hours
>>156576077it is fucking horrifying bro
>>156576097Night m8
They should simply ban him for roids to fix tennis
I CAN'T VOLLEY
>>156576106very sad
this is embarrassing
Where do we go from here, Djokobros?
>>156576100there needs to a virus targeting only jeets until it wipes 98% of their global population
>>156576143The washed up losers listThis guy will never enter a goat debate lmao
Could Sinner realistically bagel Djokovic here? Djokovic is really underperforming. Last time Djokovic was bageled at a Slam IIRC was 2020 French Open against Nadal
His only chance to win a GC is to beat Sinner early in the tournament, he should try to get a worse ranking, because at this point, he's already struggling to beat decent players and he's hold so he has no more energy in the Semis to beat a good opponent
>>156576155>albanian in germany talks about sports
Reminder this is what any competent player would have done to Djokovic since 2013.
>>156576143He just wants that title, should keep going, the stars will align somewhere around the world and he'll get it
Novak thrashed Binner in the Aussie cup, what happened?
Sinnsation
>>156576168Shitting on your own legacy by getting bagels from Sinner lmao it's over, Federer never had this happen to him not even at 40
i think novak's children will lose all respect for him for getting manhandled by this gay tirol twink
>>156576166That makes no sense
>>156576180Djokovic benefited from a walkover and opponent retiring so he didn't play nearly as much in the leadup to the final as Sinner.
>>156576194if you call beating most players in his 40s shtting his legacy you are truly a delusional jeet
>>156576177>Reminder this is what any competent player would have done to Djokovic since 2013.this, Djokovic only won one GS in 2012 2013 and 2014 because the big 4 was healthy enough, Djoko started winning more once Nadal and Murray started being more injured and Federer got really old
I'm Nolefam but this is over.
>>156576180Novak had had his two previous matches finish early because his opponents got injured. he was very fresh.
>>156576218I can't win I can't winBut I'm not washed lmao
Sodo you guys believe SInner is juicing even these days?
I hurt myself today...
>>156576206it does, Djoko managed to beat sinner in the AO because he didn't play 2 matches, he needs energy to beat him, he's too old he doesn't have much energy in the Semis anymore
>>156576232You don't need to juice to beat this fucking Slovak loser
>>156576239sinner lost energy after getting mauled by the sun, it was the perfect balance shift.
I really like Andrew Agassi commentating because he doesnt have any of the annoying American accents and he even does the tennis commentator whispering
>>156576232They all are. There's plenty of shit that doesn't show up in the tests.
could djoko beat fery?
>>156576158I guess that's a no
>>156576180>2/18 break points>Thrashed
>>156576272He mentioned Safin was big 3 level when he was on. Based boomer commentary.
>>156576232He DEFINITELY is but they probably all are.
yjk jelena is craving sinner's tirolean meat hammer. novak is too old and washed up for a woman with such an unquenchable sexual appetite
>>156576358Fed stop kekposting
>>noooo sinner make it stop noooo
>>156576232You would have to be naive to think otherwise. Likely they all are, but that doesn't excuse anyone
>>156576232they all are, and I wish they would stop this hypocrisy, if juicing helps them being entertaining for 10 hours straight I'm all for it
Literally the only stat that matters.
>>156576272I'll take Agassi over Tim Gaymen any
>>156576358Whoawhoawhoa... Jelena is completely faithful... to FAA's cock.
grim
>crowd on novak's sideWtf is going on?
Sinner is so heartless... Just give the old man the win
>>156576358>>156576413Jelena has the right to cheat at least once, because Djokovic did ithttps://www.ndtv.com/india-news/deepika-padukone-is-who-novak-djokovic-really-wants-to-date-claims-his-alleged-ex-1722713
>acedLOL
Holy shit commentators just called Sinner a "servebot" LMAO
>>156576400keek>>156576470>commentatorsthat's Andre Agassi, I want him to be a commentator more often desu, he just keeps it real
>>156576462i thought he was a heckin family man i am outraged
>>156576462>Novak Djokovic alleged ex-girlfriend recently said that the Serbian tennis player "would be far happier dating Deepika Padukone" >alleged ex-girlfriend recently said>shartjeet timeswhat complete slop
>>156576470>>156576489which channel is Agassi on?
>>156576495I thought everybody knew he was a bit of a fuckboy. Is that not common knowledge?
>>156576510look at the face he's making when he saw the paparazis, he knew he was fucked lol
>>156576512bbc two
>>156576408The record that will never be broken and nobody even rates the other slams anymoreAt some point in the next ten years we'll measure tennis players by WimbledonsFun fact that's how it used to be, top players used to intentionally skip Aussie or RG because nobody fucking cared. Laver for example
>>156576512Channel 9 in Australia (with VPN you can watch for free on 9now dot com dot au)
>>156576526People have no idea
>>156576574Lol what? Laver is insanely dogshit, Arthur Fery would dominate prime Rod.
>>156576214Was abroad
Also Agassi swore which I don't think is allowed on the BBC which is pretty funny
>>156576574Recently found out that Borg skipped the French one year in his prime so that he could play World Team Tennis kek
>>156576613He's probably just a drunk at this point
uhhh fatiguebros??? when does sinner start flagging?
>>156576613that's not very funny. i hope they issue him a hefty fine and he apologizes.
sinner is probably a degen gooner. he has the phenotype. likely scat, since he is german
Do you think Grug is watching this slaughter?
never seen agassi sober
>>156576574based
>>156576611well well well even on the return flight daddy's account needed to pay for your ungrateful brattiness
>>156576631
>>156576640He probably should lead at the USO, but 4-6 finals is grim. Too much choking there.
>>156576661
>>156576613what did he say?>>156576641he dates models...
>>156576272he does have a very soothing voice
>>156576680for someone who's said he's the goat on hardcourt, it's weird he has a Lebron James record on the US Open finals
>>156576686frfr
not the same without the obese lineladies
It's djokover
>>156576708That was cope back when Fed and Nadull were raping him so there's a frame to make him look better at something.
>>156576688obvious beards to make him not look like a gay gooner
>>156576703woah calm down >>156576713sigh... at least the US swing will have fat ballmen
>roid>winis it really so simple?
zbros....im not feelin so good about back to back slams....
fraud
>>156576688Said bitching in front of the lesbian
>>156576737the riggi cuckitini special
>>156565555The Borna Ultimatum
>>156576686>guys guys.... this girl....incredible...she is the most submissive russian girl I have ever met...
Working from home on my covered patio. Outlook inbox is empty. Life is good.
>>156576728statistically he got there in the end against the zoomers
>>156576746>cucked by Sinner in 4/5 masters this yearbrvtal
>>156576746no it will be a good final actually imo
>>156576795I can see your reflection
I hate that Egyptian lizard man
Kecmaniacs…we got robbed
>>156576771
>>156576795eating some pasta meanwhile
>>156576795nice
>getting straight setted in a completely pedestrian manner by a zoomer twinknovak-sissies...our response??
>>156576746that was before the Great Zawakening
>>156576857Cute cat anon
>>156576864at least he didnt get bagled by a literally who manlet like KWABolli
>>156576857gud kittingtomshire
>>156576795RASTA
beginning to think 25 isnt happening
>guy's name is sinner>is a sinner with his blatant cheating>666
>agassi talking about he prefers sitting in the shade and the fans who got seats under the sun got scammed.lmao
>>156576903Always next slam, heh.
>>156576853
Least tacky Serbians
>>156576928now that Zverev believes he can win more GS, the mission is impossible, a big 3 is forming
>>156576925anybody who paid money for this farce of a match got scammed
>>156576886cobolli was a mental wreck that game. so weak.after this and the RG final he needs to get a mental strength coach
>>156576953why are the shirts always so cringe
Is djokovic harming his legacy at all by still playing?
>>156576914and he's ugly as sin
please retire unc..
>Agassi is seething about Djoko's harlinegoddamit, put this dude on all commentary seats, he's hilarous keek
wheres the anon that predicted 6-4,6-4,6-4?>>156576903theres always another australian open
>>156576988I don't think so, he's at least making SFs consistently. Fed was done after a QF here, and Rafa overdid it losing in grim scenes on R1 exits
>>156576988noeven in his declining years he's been embarrassing the majority of the tour
>>156577007I'm not that anon but predicted 3 sets 6-4 6-4 7-6
ITS ALL OVER BUT THE CRYING
>>156576953>analbanian in germany still seething
should i buy it
why is djokovic so happy? now federer is the goat.
What did Djokovic do to deserve this...
Shoulder status: tapedZverevwinslol
>>156577040>why is djokovic so happy?that's the part that makes me angry, what is he doing here if even him doesn't believe he can beat him, why is he content in being dominated by the next generation?
>Happy walk-offHe's coming back next year confirmed
>>156577053Hot
>>156577036yes
Oh god not this cunt
They should always have to play all five sets regardless of what happens. Should still be 2 more sets to play.
>>156572388I get Novak's match scores exactly correct often, but never have the courage to place a bet.
why is Sinner so robotic when interacting with people though
>>156577083Sinner?
>>156577106The interviewer
>>156577104he isn't. You just dehumanize redheads.
>>156576988>Is djokovic harming his legacy at all by still playing?I think he's harming his legacy, there's no point in adding to your career that you're getting your ass pounded by a ginger, it's obvious he's too old for this shit, he should just stop
>Novak played some very tuff matches you know, and I'm really happy he played, it's always tuff you know, very tuff player, today I'm really happy with what I done, you know
>>156575859Is djokovic making it to the semis only to get blasted by the big three a bad look for tennis?
>fashion questionoh god
>>156577019This is embarrassing for the tour. Sinner didn’t have to play brilliantly to win. All the top 10 should be doing that to this version of djokovic.
>>156577138Too old to completely destroy everyone except the two best players on tour? Yeah being number 3 in the world is so washed man, he's finished he should retire. Stupid frog
>>156577148Kek we get it you dislike the fella
>>156577165>number 3he's 8th>>156577165>Too old to completely destroy everyone except the two best players on tour?remind me who he lost against in the last US Open and on this RG?
>>156577138nigga, who fucking cares>nooooo the 38 year old's entire career is now ruined.....because.....
>>156577165He’s lucky the top 10 is complete trash but why not keep going and punishing them
>>156576988no, look at his 2020s stats aloneHe's still mogging everyone hard
>>156577241Bis Sonntag du Schwuchtel.
>>156577241Zverev does seem a lot more confident now.
>>156577212>nigga, who fucking caresNadal on his documentary said that he decided to stop because he found it humiliating to be beaten by people he would have crushed in 3 sets 10 years ago, I guess Djokovic doesn't have that level of self respect
>>156577344As long as he makes slam SF i think he's fine. He shouldn't be allowed to play only slams thought while the rest of the tour has to grind masters
>>156577344Nadal didnt make it out of the second round his last two years nigga
Is tennis just over? The sport is cooked. Sinner will have 95% winrate every year and will only lose GS to the sun.
>>156577401>Nadal didnt make it out of the second round his last two years niggathat's because he barely played those last 2 years, that's disingenuous
>>156577414He will literally lose the final in two days, what are you on about?
>>156577414holger rune will stop him
Zverev will avenge Nole and it will be sensational.
>>156577523>Nadal on his documentary said that he decided to stop because he found it humiliating to be beaten by people he would have crushed in 3 sets 10 years ago>that's disingenuousyou're literally retarded
>>156577602Just because it's a documentary he is supposed to tell the truth? And a fucking Netflix documentary of all things?
>>156577571'ena on the 'log
>>156577678>no you don't get it, when he said he doesn't want to be humiliated on court, it's a Netflix script, in reality Nadal loves to get destroyed when playing tennis!
>>156577678Breh>>156577344read this>>156577401then this
>>156577414Oh god not you boo-hooers again. We're getting the highest quality tennis we've seen in years and you're crying about it? You want to go back and watch slurpfest finals with jokers like Tsitsipas and Ruud and Thiem? Fuck you. If you don't like to watch champions win get the fuck out of tennis as a sport and watch the Coin Flip World Series or some shit.
btw this thread wont survive until sunday with the upcoming footy matches
>>156577727Nadal was being humiliated. As I said, he didn't make it out of the second round. Novak is making semis and finals still.
>>156577755>muhh semiswho cares? Murray made 11 finals, all we remember from him is that he only has 3 GS like Stan Wawrinka
Zverev is trash at finals biggest mental midget on the planet. The fuck you guys smoking?
>>156577773Losing in the second round of a slam is completely different than losing in a semi you fucking retard lmfao
>>156577806nope, or else you win the trophy or you don't, it's that simple
>>156577828You brought up Nadal being humiliated. Losing in R1 and R2 of a slam is humiliating. Losing to the current #1 in the semi finals of Wimbledon isn't humiliating you retarded retard.
>>156577828No you win to stat pad
>>156577414>that pictureJust go to the nonce thread
So who eclipses Federer's Wimbledon record now?
>>156577924
>>156577924Djokovic when he wins Wimbledon number 9 at 41.
>>156577956Sinner Groyper
>>156577304>>156577775My nickname for him now is the Eternal Champion, the zoomer names will change and suffer fake random bussy “injuries” but he will stay the same. Used to be the Eternal Choker of course
>>156577924Cruz Hewitt
>>156577866what's humiliating is that Djokovic is delusional enough to believe he can still do it, the door has closed more than 2 years ago, he's too old and he's not on a weak era anymore, the more he insists the more he looks desperate, he spend his whole career saying that the only thing that drives him is having another GS trophy to add to his collection, or else he lowered his standard, or else he's too dumb to realize that he won't make it, either way it's a bad optics for him
>>156578096breh, who cares? he is still competitive to the majority of the field. why aren't you shidding and pissing this hard over the 41 year old stan wawrinka?
>>156578096He's going to go out like Fedor Emelianenko, where he lets his fans get excited for him to come out and fight and he gets knocked out by a weak jab in 2 seconds again.A lot of athletes from that region like to just carry on fighting when they're completely washed beyond belief and full of injuries and middle aged etc.
>>156578141because Wawrinka was bad the majority of his career, he only had 3 good years, it's more the norm for him to be humiliated, we don't see that often with Djokovic
>>156578185you are right he should just stop doing his job because some retarded french guy thinks so
>>156578279It’s called losing aura, unc
>>156578279I just prefer good endings, so far only Sampras got that shit, Michael Jordan was close but he was retarded enough to go to the fucking Washington Wizards, leaving your sport when you're are your peak is the most badass thing to ever do, it just reeks of "I have done enough, I can leave now"
>>156578331you only think so because surrendering is all you people are good for
>>156578365>surrendingyou always lose against father time, so you will surrender anyway, the only choice you can make is when to surrender, leave the sport before the sport leaves you
>>156578416dawg hes making 2m this year on prize money, plus who knows how much for all his other endorsements. he'd instantly lose out on the millions head, lacoste, asics, and that water company give him once he retires
>>156578463do you really think Djokovic is the kind of guy to accept humiliating defeats in exchange of money? it's the same guy who decided to not play 2 GS in 2022 because of the covid vaccine
>>156578577yeah because he is still playing you r tard
>>156578604>r tarddon't be a pussy, say the word
>>156578693ive called you retarded 10 other times already dude
>>156578724>Djokovic is in the semis and only lost against the number one in the world, that's not humiliating at all!>Yes, Djokovic is ok to be humiliated for money!!which one is it burgertard?
>>156578786i didnt say they were actually humiliating. you are the one saying that, and that he would never accept a humiliating defeat, yet he is still playing. so are they not actually humiliating? or does he actually accept humiliating defeats?
>>156577732thanks for the quality
>>156577773Actually, Murrays legacy is built on being the best Olympics player in tennis.
Today's matches were shite and there's only the ladies tomorrow
>>156579064>the best Olympics player in tennishe got lucky federer had to deal with prime Del Potro in the semis and was too tired in the finals, we know Federer was superior than Murray on grass in 2012 by looking at the Wimbledon finals
>>156577014Yep
>>156577014>>156579398if Djokovic keeps playing he'll get the same fate, early exits
Why is it Novak's fault that there are only two other good ATP players?
>>156577065Yep, plenty more seething to witness
>>156579305trvke
>>156579779
>>156579780>balanceddoes novak post here
>>156579780>I was just not shartp enough. Not reactive enough.I'm sure being 1 year older will fix that!
>>156579988why are you seething so hard over novak bro?
Except for the Fery run this Wimbledon was pretty shit
>>156580813they are seething because Novak is still able to get to semi-finals and there is no one else other than Sinner, Alcaraz and maybe Zverev. So the whole of /atp/ is really down to a few players
here's how nkvak can still win a slam>get 3 walkovers>have sinner and alcaraz injured at the same time>face a strong era titan like tommy paul in the final
>>156580813wanted more mugs to roll over like tsitsipas
>>156581146>>156581379None of your tsongas, your berdyches, your verdascos, your haases, your delpos to give the big dogs a bloodied nose It’s fucked
>>156583896You didn't see THE felix? He even hit a couple of good backhands over 5 hours of play. They landed in.
>>156584024Djoko isn’t a big dogs anymore he just sleepwalks through draws and loses to the first good player
>>156584198>loses to the first good playerhmm just happens to be the number 1 in the world and in the semi final of a grand slam - volumes
>>156584841the thing is there are like 2 and a half good players even active. keep in mind fraudix, shelton and de manure are number 4 to 6 in the world
Tf do we do tomorrow? I’d like to go to a museum or something but the interesting one near me is 50 (fifty) pounds for entry.
Novak Djokovic has made 11 grand slam semi finals since turning 36 in May 2023. Only 15 other men have made 11 or more grand slams in their entire careers in the Open Era.
>>156587840Only 15 men have qualified for 11 grand slams in the open era? Crazy
>>156587840BRING ME BERRETTINI
>>156588162Really makes you think
I hope Zverev wins because I don't like the sovlless doper
HE'S ON COKE!(He in fact did not nose how to make the final).
>>156588162Alcarazbros we were supposed to be the next GOAT... Instead we're just the the next Thiem...
>Merz will be thereZverev has already lost.
>>156591322christ
clay season 2 starts tomorrow
Fraudix has dropped his long time coach. Surely he'll be elite now.
>>156592993Remember when he worked with Uncle Toni? What a mistake that was
>>156591350why does he do these winks?they look awful. he uses half his face to do them kek
>>156593031At least he realized pretty quickly he had to drop him
>>156591322>>Merz will be therewhy? seriously why? send the president as the symbolic guy the way the spanish king would show up. leave the blackrock guy back home in berlin to smooch with his german money elite
>>156579703this was insanely cringe.
>>156572844
>>156593358Heh
>>156577401>DraperKek what a bitch>>156579780>not balanced enoughIt's so over
>>156578988You're welcome. We need champions. Cry more.
>>156577732Based
You know I keep it real, I live for the appeal
Lotta players sacking coach right now.
>>156594123if draper wasnt made of glass he was on track to be next zverevhe was no laffin' matter
>>156595923Some players switch coaches too oftenSome players don't switch coaches often enough (if at all)
>>156576988No, in fact he's adding to it. Keeping tennis mildly interesting for a bit longer.
>>156576988I don’t think so. No one reasonably expects him to beat prime Sincaraz and he’s still destroying basically everyone else. He’s probably never winning another slam though
>>156576232Nah
>>156579703What do you expect him to say to a bullshit question like that?
>>156593358saved
>cruz hewitt is apparently friendly with roger's girlshmmm
i remember everyone said djokovic got easy ass draws because he was number one and now hes 8 and still gets easy ass draws
>>156601318I heard he fired his coach because the coach wanted him to add a source on wilipedia for why he likes Leonardo Dicaprio.
Sinnbomba
Djokovic literally stopped being good after 2016. It's all vulturing since then.
If Sinner's spirit animal is a red fox, what is Zverev's?
>>156603389>Scavenger>Males are larger than females and often violent.>Will faint and pretend to be dead at the slightest threat.
>>156603389Orangutan. Super long levers
grass season almost over
>>156600652He was also warming up for his junior matches with none other than the Feryman himself
>>156603610I've always said i thought he looks like a monkey. I also have long af arms
>>156604211When I read this I thought “what is he on about it is over maybe he’s talking about Newport final or something”Then I realised I had forgotten we still have a Wimbledon final to get through. Something is speaking volumes here. The state of men’s tennis, the condition of my brain cells? Who’s to say?
>>156593159He is not there as a "symbolic guy".He is there to raise his public support numbers, that are barely holding the two-digit percent range.Also, Berlin is in on vacation anyway. The republic is figuratively burning, but Berlin takes a rest.
Cruz bros we need to cheer him but not have too high expectations of him, let's keep it responsible before he becomes the talk of social media forever cause of muh namesake
>>156604604forget your morning cuppa?
>>156604818Will have a coffee about 11 I reckon Exciting times
>GstaadComfy kino
>>156604980>coffeenot tea?
>>156605893How was your breakfast burger?
get in>>156606078>>156606078
>>156606163bit early wouldn't you say?
>>156606128not had it yet
>>156606100he could take a break for a year and his career would be barely impacted. 7 slams is enough
>>156600674There was a while a few years ago where nolefam was trying to convince people he actually had to deal with hard draws that were rigged against him any time he actually had to face a top 30 player
>>156593358Ha. Nice.
>>156607113Too good/effort content for this general, we don’t do that here
i have not followed tennis seriously since Federer retiredthe occasional sinner alcaraz match was fun, but now i see things like zvetez winning majorsit is a sad state of affairs
>>156607152Calm down
>>156607350Fucking fuck off with this calm down shit
>>156607362steady on
Just how screwed is Zverev with these serve placements on his forehand?
>>156575859she's gonna choke won't she
uhhh guys theres no tennis today. pack it up untiil tomorrow
>>156604650>He is there to raise his public support numbersim pretty sure hes in the state where less visibility is better than more visibility, no?
>>156607688Wrong. Look at these riveting matchups
>>156607362Calme toi
>>156607928Tbf if you were a high profile man and had the opportunity to sit in solitude for once in your busy life, you'd gladly meditate at the pinnacle of Wimbly for a relaxing few minutes. Uber comfy
>>156576408The grass specialist only has one more than Joker... really makes you think
>>156608148One had to face PRIME Nadal, Sampras, Roddick, Murray, Bjorkman, Henman. The other faced the gauntlet already seen in this thread above.
>>156608356>prime Bjorkman, Henmanlolz, more like prime bait
>>156603367KWAB
Still with this?
>>156608435Based vulture
>>156608148What is their head to head at Wimbledon? Maybe that helps us decide this once and for all?
>>156608148While this is bait if you compare every grass stat you can think of Federer is miles in front. Anything else is just cope.
I never thought it would come to this I am watching doubles
>>156607717wow! TWO indian players on one day has to be an atp first
What did IBM mean by this?https://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/slamtracker/1701
>>156608688Except for an embarrassing head to head on grass at Wimbledon? It's your explanation for this that is the cope
>>156608912Better than 80% for Sinner implied by bookies
Sinner was scary yesterday, the angles and power of the CC backhand are ludicrous. He will break Rev
>>156608752No, brother. Don't do it. There's lots of things you can do before resorting to that. How about reading a book? Going out with some friends?
>>156608967This is like looking at current Djokovic and wondering why he's losing. Age is a pretty big deal when you're dealing with other atgs
>>156608995It’s turned off now of course Proper proper proper shite
>>156608981>basically same odds as vs ovakdon't agree, think zverev will keep it a bit closer but he'll still lose obv
The guy who very well could've won RG got bageled by a noname nepobaby dwarf when there was nothing wrong with him, The level is not high outside the 2 trading wins, Novak just needs to slip through the draw once without facing the doping carrot or spending a whole day on court and he's gonna pounce. It's surely not pleasant for him to lose to players he knows he dominated ~3 years ago for reasons outside his control and dope but if he has to retire then almost everyone should. He can still fluke a big win and won't feel the excitement he does playing in front of thousands ever again once he stops, no reason to not delay it no one cares about h2h's or win percentages across a career that was spent mostly outside his prime
>>156608981
>>156609060Not really. Grass is Zverev's worst surface. He can win against randos, even grass experts, because he's, admittedly, very, very good 90% of the time.But he's not facing a rando now, he's facing the best who is also great in grass. I don't see him doing better than Grandpa Djo.
>>156609064>Novak just needs to slip through the draw once without facing the doping carrot or spending a whole day on court and he's gonna pounce.People have been saying this for the past 3 years and his physical level is dropping off further and further with every single year. He's at a point where it takes everything out of him physically to get past somebody like Fraudix and he's not even cruising in early rounds either when you look at what he did vs Wu for example. RG was the perfect opportunity with Alcaraz out and Sinner losing early and what happens? He loses before even making the quarters. At this point the starts have to align so heavily for him that he might as well get 7 walkovers to be handed the trophy. It's not happening. Not at USO and definitely not next year when he turns 40 and Alcaraz should be back. Even the shitters make it way too much of a hassle for him to win comfortably. This year he basically lost to Musetti (got saved by retirement), to Fonseca and scraped by Fraudix. He's getting more vulnerable and the gap between him and Alcaraz/Sinner seems to be getting wider. AO semis was an outlier since he could save all his energy for this one match and then he couldn't do much in the final anyway.It's time to accept that USO 23 will have been his last slam. He's definitely going to struggle with shitters he would have straight setted in his sleep not too long ago this USO. Also doesn't help that he doesn't play outside of slams anymore so he needs some time to find form but every extra minute on court also hurts him now.
>>156608967>embarrassing head to head on grass at Wimbledon3-1 with two 5 sets matches played, one with Fed being 38 isn't an embarrassing h2h. Djokovic was rinsed in straight sets 3 years in a row at a younger age and similar age by Sinnercaz. Fed's just got more grass titles, finals, wins, win percentage, etc etc. Clearly grass goat. If you're big on grass h2h he fares better against the other relevant players from that era too. He's 2-1 vs Murray, 3-1 vs Nadal. Djokovic is 0-2 vs Murray, and 2-2 vs. Nadal. Also makes you think.
>>156609125It is his worst surface but he's more confident on the forehand now and he's not gassed like the old man. Triple 64 is a deceiving scoreline. Djokovic had absolutely zero chance that match. Maybe Zverev even sneaks in a set win. It won't be super close either but hard to get whooped harder than Djokovic did unless Zverev just capitulates 3 games in.
>>156609136until Djocko is getting embarrassed by shitters the nhe is going to continue because of the state of all tennis. If /atp/ can only relay on sinner or Alcaraz and maybe Zverev now then it's not going to be a deterrence knowing that at least one of them is going to fail in a GS. Alcaraz has now fallen to number 3 in the world, so that will be his seeding in the USO if he competes there. The thing about draws is you can get lucky on the matchups, you can also get lucky with people losing early on like sinner was taken to 5 sets in the 1st round. Let's say Sinner was knocked out in the 1st round, would Djoko now be in the final? Probably.
>>156609136>Even the shitters make it way too much of a hassle for him to win comfortably.That's the biggest problem for him. I thought he would cruise past most players in his draw, but everything except Tsitsipas (worse than challenger level) was a battle. And this is grass, where it should be the easiest for him as the level is very poor across the board except for a couple of players, one who wasn't even playing.
>>156609204But Sinner is better than him at everything he does, and has a trillion more tricks up his sleeve. It will be as humiliating to Z as the Madrid beat down was. And that was in clay, Sasha's best surface.
Why did sinner and all of them suddenly get so good and why did novak completely crash? He won 3 slams in a year when he was 36. Does your body really just completely collapse within 3 years around his age? You could tell yesterday the guy was gassed in the first set
>>156609231>Let's say Sinner was knocked out in the 1st round, would Djoko now be in the final? Probably.Makes sense he would hang around if that's close to happening. He'd be retired already if there was a strong second tier which has been nonexistent in the 2020s.
>>156609147Nadal was shit, clay baby - 14 titles on clay and just a few outside that. I would put Nadal well behind Federer and Djoko in the big 3. Djocko was best adapted to play on all surfaces with clay being his weakest hence why he would not win RG now as anons seem to think he may well have done with Sinner and Alcaraz out. Clay is the worst surface with grass next. Hardcourts are where the serious game of tennis is played.
>>156609249Yep, people look at the 3-1 results and just think it's a typical Djokovic win. But he's truly struggling for good portions of the match at times. Also has to make way too many mini comebacks which gas him out further. That first set vs Safiullin? That hurts when the minutes and hours on court stack up.
>>156609288Djocko isn't going to care about petty interweb debates on some fantasy matchups if somehow Federer or Nadal etc were still playing and how well they would fare in the modern game. He just likes reeling off records as he knows once he retires they will have to stand on their own
>>156609310Right. He actually needed Safiullin to choke. It wasn't that bad even 12 months ago.
>>156609281I think aging happens like a step function. Sudden precipitous falls followed by plateaus. But the inflection point for Sinner becoming the better player for me was when they traded end of season wins in the indoors Paris and Turin 2023. That imo was Novak trying to assert himself over the young buck. There was real venom in his shots. Then the floodgates opened in the following season
>>156609136His physical level was definitely weaker in 2024 after RG until early 2025 when he'd fully healed the leg, apart from when he played all out in Olympics but you could hear he was in pain every point almost. USO feels like a bigger opportunity than some others I'd say, everyone but him are actually playing tournaments outside of slams and start getting worn out by that point in the calendar. Yeah, he was certainly saved by the Musetti retirement but RG was his for the taking if he just made it past Fonseca despite the tough draw, it was the last truly hot day of the tournament and that's what did him in in that match>>156609281Sinner doped, Alcaraz got major winning aura due to Novak's absence in USO 2022 and then Novak got a big injury, still crawled into wimbledon final somehow but his movement took a big hit for a long time and by the time it became good again he was even older than his adversaries while they entered their prime
>>156609281>>156609281>Why did sinner and all of them suddenlyFixed his serve, improved his mental strength in pressure moments, improved his physicality once he hit his early 20s. The potential was always there for him. Wasn't he around top 10 at 20/21ish?>and why did novak completely crash?I wouldn't say he completely crashed because he's still going deep in slams. Father time remains undefeated even if more athletes these days are showing increased longevity.
>>156609006>Age is a pretty big deal when you're dealing with other atgs>>156609147>one with Fed being 38Yet age isn't factored in when judging Novak's loss to Sinner yesterday or similar situations... really keeps on making one ponder...
>>156609489Age is a huge factor anon, no one is saying it isn't. Djokovic in his prime would be too much for Sinner on grass the majority of the time.
>>156609524Nah
>>156609281Sinner and Alcaraz were always good and had great potential, they were just a bit iffy until mid 2022 for Alcaraz and the end of 2023 for Sinner. There's a pretty good video by Mr. Gross reviewing a video of his that talked about them in 2021https://youtu.be/hY0jgjch0aw
>>156609489The whole thread is talking about Djokovic being old? What are you on about? Of course age is the biggest factor in his loss yesterday. Nonsensical complaint.
>>156609645>2021 SinnerHe was meme tier still. >So Sinner, who was getting stomped out by Karatsev in Lyon, attempted to become just one more tactical user of time-out fraud. But he made a catastrophic error during his ersatz toilet break: He failed to even pretend to use the toilet. The chair umpire issued a code violation for unsportsmanlike conduct because, as I confirmed with an ATP spokesperson, the line umpire who escorted him off the court reported that Sinner had not used his break for its intended purpose. And the ATP handbook decrees that “Toilet breaks should be taken on a set break and can be used for no other purpose.” Sinner, struck down by the letter of the law, mumbled something to the effect that he didn’t know and was sorry, and then resumed the match, which he would win in three sets. Next time Jannik Sinner is aiming to break his opponent’s momentum, he will be sure to shuffle into that stall and flush down a phantom poo
Do not look up what kind of legendary Swiss player Otto is currently losing to in THE Gstaad qualies
I do wonder what his last match will look like. It was sad to see Roger eat a bagel for Hurkacz. Likewise Nadal having no chance against Zverev at RG, or his Davis Cup match against Botic. Curious who it'll be for Novak.
>>156609911Fritz
>>1566099112-6 1-6 loss to Prizmic in the 2028 Olympics
Dylan Dietrich... Now that is a player to watch out for
>>156609911USO 2028 against Tsitsipas, it's the final and he destroys that bum by the way, after having previously defended his Olympic gold against Ruud
>>156609857Just a holiday trip for him, can't figure other reasons for him to play post grass season clay tournaments.The Swiss guy is some NCAA player and is apparently pretty decent. Otto's level on clay is like top200 at max.
Knew the Finn was lurking when his doubles merchant is playing
Now that Wimbledon is almost over, who were the biggest frauds of this year's edition? For me, it's gotta be fourth seed Shelton.
>>156610182Easily this shitter
>>156610167
>>156610182Shelton's skill is his variety on serve especially from the left side but he lacks the great grass weapon - a sweeping slice serve. He needs a slice serve that's super secure that stays low. Also he has literally zero patterns or "set plays." He's more likely to win RG in this era than he is Wimpleton>>156610295bbl?
>>156610182It has to be him. He missed a golden opportunity to go far (the semis were theoretically possible).Besides him Shitz and Kwabboli got upset hard in the quarters and had big opportunities to reach the final. But at least their losses had justifications (Cobson had immense pressure he's not used to and TayTay was injured). Shelty had no excuse
>No matches>England>Haaland>ArgentinaYeah there's no way we stay up today
>>156609281Djokovic has won half of his slams since 2018. This is not because he's as good a player as he was before then; he isn't. It's just that this 2018 - 2023 coincided with all his rivals dying a death. Sinner/Alcaraz matured, and developed their game, and were eventually able to provide the kind of consistent competition Novak hadn't see since before 2018. Also, having to beat both of them in a row is incredibly difficult. For me, it's just about competition. Yes, he's declined physically, but without the Little 2 he would still be winning slams.
>>156610841>The Little 2
>>156610324Some back operation probably
Overlooked fraud performance by Landaluce getting straight setted by a part time military officer
>>156610167kek didn't take long either
Not to be a pedo but Cruz Hewitt in the boys final
>>156611512It's more suspicious that you included the first part./tennis/ has twisted your melon
>>156611512He got 40,000 dollarydoos for a WC and then losing in the first round of AO qualisNice little Bunsen burner
The weakest tennis era in history (2019-2023) became the weakest tennis era in history, plus Sinner and Alcaraz (2024 - present)
>>156611692personally i blame ruud
are peeps here actually following Hewitt? he any good?
>>156611833>are peeps here actually following Hewitt?No>he any good?No
>>156611833He's in with roger's daughters so he's doing ok. Federer/Hewitt hybrid looking good in about 18 years.
>>156612030>18 years.not too long a wait lel
>>156612030Do the sons of former greats ever become legit good? At best we get Kordas
In tennis? I can't think of any. In other sports there are a few.
>>156593358lmaooooooo
We die tonight
Meh, it's fine. There's no matches today and we can start a fresh one for the finals.
>>156613989Two World Cup matches and Conor is back, the guy is for the Irish Jesus christ reborn.
But seriously, how many games for Zverev tomorrow?
>>156614730He probably takes one TB and then folds
>>156614876Fery and Djokovic both won exactly 12 games in the semis. Surely he can do better than that.
>>15661473014
CAM ON ZVEREVYOU CAN DO IT
>>156610841only proves federer is goat
>>156614095I’ll see you on the other side in Valhalla brother
>>15661496731
Big Z bros, I don’t feel so good
>>156617201*GULP*
Does slam win this count?
>>156617564Yes, slam wins count as slam wins, anon.
>>156617564average Djokovic-tier vulture draw
/atp/ needs to at least survive norway-england as the it's in miami (you know, where the gp is held) (and some masters tournament)
>>156618501>the it'sgodverkankeryou know what i mean
>>156618501>>156618560Okay, you keep us posted throughout the match with your favourite memories of the Miami Masters through the years.
>>156619122never watched
>>156619156You’re a real piece of work Jonne
Kouame tomorrow
>>156619964>Jonnei knew a jonne once
Your favourite tennis player? For me it's Jamal Le
Who's the Norway of tennis?
>>156626758I don't know but Kacper Pood is the England
>>156619964>>156623850
>>156626968I kind of see it
reckon sinner garn make loads uncharacteristic unforced errorsspraying the ballhe will be unable to break zverev defensive gamezverevwin two early tie breaks consecutievhe drags sinner deep watera. match going into 4 hours along the wayas usualsinner will detioratethe day will be won by zverev outlasting sinner who phywically breaks down7-67-63-66-76-4zverev win
>>156630434Is it finna be hot tomorrow?
It’s gonna be the most routine raping since Genghis Khan was in business.
I saw ajdukovic’s name on flashscore earlier and laughed at my own joke again
Riggland
>>156637198lol
>>156630434You were wrong about Norway you WILL be wrong about Sinner
>>156646587Tummie
The /atp/ meetup for the Wimbly final still happening tomorrow?
>>156646587yeh?
>>156646587women are a disgrace manall the gifts given in the world and they still think they have it hard done by. Saw a woman propped up on her husband's back who was bent over double trying to fix her shoe earlier.
>>156610903based
>trying to find /atp/ in the log, ctrl-f atp, /tennis/ shows up first and have to click through 4 results before getting to gaytp>trying to find /tennis/ in the log, ctrl-f tennis, /atp/ shows up first, have to click through 8 results before getting to /nonce/What's the math working here
>>156648407Just remember "gentleman's"
>>156648620feels wrong somehowI respect the /subject/
>>156649283use the slashes
>>156650028I salute the subject not the slash
Not sure if Sinner is actually good on grass or field is just dogshit
>>156651156Jesus watching one of the two thiefs nimbly traverse the plain of golgotha while the other loses his footing
strewth its fast
>>156651919australian djokovic watching a sinner backhand
hmm
>>156652811quite
problem is you cant bump 8 times and then the thread dies anyway, deeply embarrassing
Head out of the window my song on the radio
a comfy Gina win could be huge
carloth alcarath
>>156658141miss that guy
We still up?
>>156660891Fraid so
Hmmm
Bump
Switzerland are so boring
>>156667541Y'know who else was boring from Switzerland?
>>156668131How dare you. Stan was always a thrill ride.
Benuldies loom
We did it reddit
Hey now, hey now. This is what dreams are made of
>>156674374You got the lyrics wronghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9gKyRmic20
bump
>>156622443It's on Monday Kouame vs Borges
>>156668553Based
>bumping a thread near bump limitsure
>>156678177I've nothing better to do
>>156679430Binner in 3
>>156660891I want you to put the word out that we still up
have carlos having some cawfee
>>156679876>>156680484I didn’t realise I missed him until I typed carloth alcarathFuck I miss it
>Jannik Sinner has won the first set 6-1 in each of his last two ATP main draw matches against Alexander Zverev.Surely not again
>>156680908I have some higher expectations of Slamrev but will probably be a slaughter anyway
Maybe he'll get to a tb in one of them
>>156680509I don't miss the way they say his name
Everyone thinking pre slam Zverev will show up today is in for a surprise
>>156682616Very satisfying to type for mecarloth alcarath
>>156683265Binner owns Zverev. Z is already mentally holding the loser's plate.
>>156683265
do ya think it's worth calling the next thread a final prethread or will it last awkwardly into the first set
>>156683265You know it wasn't long ago when Zverev only reached 4th rounds at Wimbledon. And as far as I'm concerned he should still be there.
>>156683464no pre-, as>/atp/ - Gentlemen's Tennis - Wimbledon Finalfits anyway for the day of and the final itself
>>156683668Ok, I'll check back in in 2 hours
>>156683265Zverev is the favorite , no question. Boris said the same, I think Sinner knows with his health issues it could be his last chance to win a Slam. The pressure will be enormousy
Today this rating Zverev meme dies
>>156679876>>156680484the tour NEEDS a spanish caveman at all times. Things are boring and gay without them
>>156609281Aging is rather slow until ~60, then it becomes exponential.But in elite sport even a slow decline is very visible
If Zverev wins today and Argentina with a white team beats England and all their blacks, Starmer will hit the nuke button and destroy London. He has nothing to lose and bongs need a reset
Why did the Lord take Carlos and Holger and leave us Pood and ShitzWhat sins have we committed
Want to watch Cruz Hewitt in the boys final but it's not on Channel 9 and BBC isn't letting my VPN through
Oh wait it's in two hoursHope it's on Channel 9 later then
4pm wimbledon finals are asterisked
>>156684688>two hoursmore like 5
Roger is a cunnyseur after all
>>156684863only one hour to go
Someone bake
I don't know if I should even bother watching it. The only suspense here is whether Zverev will get bageled in at least one of the three sets.
>>156635923making the last competitive match of wimby Djoeker v Phoenix
I screenshot all the fags doubting Zverev. Will be a legendary collage
Got caught up >>156686207>>156686207>>156686207>>156686207
