Fall off is fucking crazy. This used to be Germany just some 10 years ago or so
>>156607210That's what you get when you field players who don't give two shits about winning for their country.Players should be threatened with capital punishment if they lose.
>>156607210>4 Germans>1 Turk
>>156607210and this used to be Germany a mere 40 years ago
>>156607210The decade has been warp speed for white replacement.
>>1566072642014 Germany had Khedira, Ozil, Boateng too. Its not even about that, its a quality issue. The average german national team player now is a bum who doesnt play for any big european club apart from Havertz and Kimmich. Half of the 2014 squad were Bayern and Real Madrid starters
>>156607318But khedira ozil and boateng did care, im not saying they're immigrants or whatever. Look at Mbappe, he's barely got any french heritage but he plays every game with passion and will probably become the best WC player ever if he keeps performing.It IS also a quality issue though, that is true. I don't know what the fuck happened to Germany but I used to be scared as shit of facing them, now I don't even take them into account.
>>156607354Yeah idk either. I thought they had some resurgance during the latest euros but I guess it was a fluke because it was a home tourney. This tourney though I realized how fucking dogshit is the average german player now. Fucking Nmecha, Goretszka, Sane, unc Rudiger and so and so. Genuinely only Kai Havertz was trying
>>156607318Those players were German with heart and soul. Even if Mesut went on a shizzo phase later. They are not at all comparable to the mercenaries we field now. Additionally, they were the minority, meaning they had considerably less power to exploit. Now it's the other way round. I've been actively rooting against this team for at least 6 or so years. There's nothing about it that represents me or that is worth supporting.
>>156607401Football is changing. Germany, Brazil, and Italy suck and have lost their identities, while Spain,France and maybe England have taken their place and have found their playstyles. I don't see either of the former recovering anytime soon, Brazil has a huge pool of talent to pull players from but none of them are performing, Germany doesn't really seem to give a shit that they're not gonna make it to RO16 for at least 16 years, and Italy is maximizing cope to not deal with the fact that they've not been present in the WC in a significant manner for a quarter of the tournament's history.>>156607455Do people over there care much about the national team? If for some reason half of my NT were of Senegalese and Venezuelan origin, I wouldn't even watch the games. The fun in international football is the nationalistic part of it.
>>156607561At least Italy won euros 2020. Germany hasnt been in a semis of a major tourney since the 2014 WC. Germany is just fucking grim lad
>>156607318>2014 Germany had Khedira, Ozil, Boateng toothey were complaining at half-time in the 7-1 game because they were rooting for brazil and started sabotaging the match after that
>>156607210yeah, well now its brown and that is improvement even if they dont win any trophies
>>156607623Khedira scored half the fucking goals that match and Ozil scored the winning goal against Algeria in one of Germanys hardest WC ties that tourney. Stop trying to do historical revisionism just because the modern day immigrants germany fields are fucking dogshit. Ozil, Boateng and Khedira were consistently some of the best players in the world in their position
>>156607607The truly GRIM part of it is the lack of any positive future expectations. In 2018 we sucked dick and management of the NT was at it's worst point historically, but we had good, passionate prospects that indicated that a new team could be built under a level-headed manager. Germany has no good players lol. They're reduced to Switzerland tier basically.>>156607623Stopping at 7 was the most german thing they could've done
>>156607733Klopp may save them. He literally saved Liverpool and is one of the most soulful coaches of all time. Also just the fact that they got rid of Nagelsman nepotism faggotry is a giant positive overall
>>156607561They care in the sense that it's Germany. And it's an occasion that allows them to wave flags and attend public viewing events. I am not sure people consider it to be "their" team and I can't seriously comment on whether or not I think they do (cause of my own, predominantly negative stance towards it). I think the issue isn't even all the negroes, but rather their attitude and general demeanor. But players like Sane simply aren't likeable, they are impossible to identify with in any shape or form.
>>156608017Nagelsman is gone so bums like Sane and Goretzka will be gone too finally
>>156607682Khedira scored one goal and Klose another, the rest were scored by ethnic Germans.
What's funny is at the time this team was criticized for not really having a star player. There were memes back in 2014 like. " argentina has messi, Brazil has neymwr, Germany has a team"
>>156608017why do you feel the need to identify with the team? I’ve always been rooting for Germany because it’s my home country and not because of how any specific player looks or acts. If the team was full of unlikeable cunts like Rüdiger then it might be a different story but from what I could tell most of the lads are perfectly nice.
>>156608504Not like it is a choice. I simply don't feel anything towards the team, cause the players are fucking boring, have no personality worth note, negative charisma and virtue signal with the ability the deliver results. I don't want them to succeed, because I don't feel anything towards the team in victory or defeat. Id rather have 11 Rüdigers, 11 Pepes or 11 Ramos', cause then the squad would at least have a personality you can single out an identityby. Albeit I also feel nothing towards those players because their demeanor is one they, in my opinion, aren't good enough for. I hate people who virtue signal and then fail to perform. If you do this, if this is what you focus on, then at least show that others SHOULD follow you by setting an example through success. Nobody follows losers, nobody will do as the loser suggests, nobody should. And I think the team has never understood that very fact. Claiming the moral high ground is something you can do when you perform, cause that's when people will follow. Because success indicates that you are right. This squad is filled to the brim with people who sport a loser mentality yet simultaneously think you should follow their moral lead. Makes them unlikable by proxy.
>>156607561People here used to love the national team, but the DFB couldn’t get enough money to satisfy their own demands after the 2014 win, so they went on an insane commercialization spree that eventually annoyed everyone. All of that money evaporated. Meanwhile, the team got worse and harder to root for, and the DFB overslept reforms. As such, people began turning away. Passion for the national team is ridiculously low now compared to 2006-2014 in particular. Part of it also boils down to politics, the freaks who think waving a German flag is Nazism were a tiny minority 12 years ago, but nowadays they are actually being listened to. By some, at least If you seriously believe no one gives a fuck in general, though, you are just clueless. Most people want to care. But they cannot be blamed for looking at the DFB and taking a safe distance>>156608204If you want to argue about ethnicity, then Klose counts as German. He is a polonized German whose family returned to Germany as a kid because Germany allowed ethnic Germans and people identifying with Germany on a cultural level to immigrate under special favorable conditions
>>156607561you are next gringo
we will rise stronger than before germbros
>>156608504What’s there to like about Sané, Rüdiger, 40yo narcissist Neuer, Nagelsmeme, Goretzka? There are enough faggots on that team, and the rest of them are mentally weak losers who apparently don’t give a rat‘s ass about representing Germany well. Doesn’t seem that fine to me, even though I won’t blame Tah for missing that penalty kick more than I blame Goretzka for not even wanting to shoot despite being askedNevertheless, identifying with the team is important. Look at the 2014 squad, they mogg this bunch of frauds in every single regard. Including personality/character. And yes, the team being 50% mutts now does not really help in any area
>>156607210I miss these players so fucking much, bros>>156608990these tournaments just don't feel the same without either of us
>>156609169It’s nice how our destinies always intertwine, for how different we are. I feel we both miss our derby. I still remember that feeling of wanting and at the same time not wanting to face Germany in a tournament
>>156609169its a fucking disgrace both germany and italy fail to perform while morrocco made it to semis then qf, and lelgium somehow makes it to qf after sucking dick the whole tournament. it really is not the same.
>>156607210that team without kroos or ozil would have been eliminated in group.
>>156609422No
going from Muller, Kroos, Schweinsteiger to Sané, Musiala, Wirtz it's just not the same
>>156607210>>156607318>>156607401How about care about your own shithole, muzzdog
>>156610529Is he wrong? Leave him be. He shows more concern for our team than 90% of the players on that team
>>156607210one Schweinsteiger would've changed the outcome
>>156610582Go home mehmet
>>156607264Didn't Pissi leave the national team at some point?
>>156610642Tell the Mehmets and Zangalabides in our squad to go home first, will you?
I genuinely think this whole antinationalism thing has done a number on you piefke; feels like the players use wc and ec games more as a staging area to sell themselves. Which is ok, as long as it comes second to an intrinsic desire to represent your country and do as well as you can together.
>>156610687ok
>>156607210Honestly, all teams should be made up of the native population's players.
>>156610729Well yea, that's what everybody says. It's the most common comment in newspaper comment sections. How the players used this world cup as a family trip etc. They lack focus, cause they don't care.
>>156610811Really? Ok it might be bs then and just the first thing people come up with to blame.I mean of course it helps if half you NT trains in madrid and the other half, barring a few exceptions, in münchen
>>156607733>They're reduced to Switzerland tier basically.We always looks like a bunch of Turks, Italians, Balkanoids and Ngubus. The swiss national team is a 100% representation of the social rock bottom lower class of the country about 20 years ago. We talk about the absolute underclass, their only chance to make money is footy. As a bonus you get 2-3 token defenders/goalkeepers swiss swiss from the middle/upper class that usually would play a more civilized sport but ended up in footy anyway to get somewhat coherent interviews done.
>>156607623Everybody, even Brazilians, know there was the thinly veiled threat of violent reprisal by the fans if they proceeded to win 10-0 o 12-0. Which was absolutely a possibility if you watch the first half.
>>156607272I used to think Özil was German because they thought me in school that German uses umlauts, I had no idea that there are Turks in Germany. In my mind Germany was the place hwere only Germans live like Poland was the place only Poles live. Just coudn't comprehend the notion that people of other nationalities can live in other countries.
