Tour de France (2.UWT)Stage 15Champagnole - Plateau de Solaison183.9kmStartlist:https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/tour-de-france/2026/startlistGC after stage 14:https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/tour-de-france/2026/stage-14-gcRoadbook:https://www.xoo-cycling.ch/download/roadbooks/roadbook_tour-de-france_2026.pdfLive stats:https://racecenter.letour.fr/en/https://www.procyclingstats.com/race/tour-de-france/2026/stage-15/liveStreams:https://cyclingtiz.live/https://dlhd.pk/Eurosport / Discovery+ / HBO / TNT / France TV / ARD1 / RTBF / VRT / DKTV2 / RTVE / Rai / NOS / EITB / RTP / RTV Slo / SRG-SSR13:00 CETPrevious thread:>>156888202
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>>156896550
since visma cries about climbs being too easy what's the hardest climb the tdf can realistically feature
>>156896586Pogacar will ride up this mountain tomorrow like hes on a 1200 cc motorcycle and everyone will tell you to just enjoy this sport
>>156896612Mont Blanc
Jonas saving his matches for week 4?
Timegaps to Vingegaard:1. Vingegaard2. Evenepoel +0:343. Seixas +0:494. Ayuso +0:525. Lipowitz +1:146. Del Toro +1:207. Skjelmose +3:058. Pidcock +3:299. Martinez +3:5510. Bernal +11:25
>>156896612Within France it's the Col de la Loze from Méribel. Otherwise probably Finestre
>>156896615Why do you let 1 man have so much impact on your well being and joy of a sport? Just ignore him, just like I ignore Danes.
The fact that Jonathan Vingegaard Hansen cannot distance the others on long climbs anymore and is just "another guy of the GC group" nowadays is beyond sad...
New remco cope> suffered from cold due the rain> rode a strong last 1.5k even though organization car hindered him> Tomorrow's climb suits me better
A minute of silence for CHARMIG.17 mins out of time, fought till the end
Reef (visma):> The difference was AGAIN made after the top of the climb. Tomorrow we'll see how it goes with the finish at the top of the climb. It's too soon to give up, anything can still happen. The mountain top finishes on these longer climbs suit Jonas better.
>>156896777>OTL Charmig Anthon +58:17
>>156896806Did he watch the stage?
>>156896806Its a long way to Paris (where the final up the Montmartre suits Vingegaard better)
>>156896777just get off the bike. completely pointless riding injured for no reason. I don't think you're a hardman I think you're a stupid man.
>>156896777>>156896846
At least the white jersey battle is exciting
>>156896926>seixaswinslol
I for one enjoy seeing athletes push the boundaries of what is humanly possible, turning their blood into oatmeal just for our enjoyment.
>>156896612https://climbfinder.com/en/climbs/chalets-des-auges-entremontreplying to myself, this one seems to be best suited for jonas since it has some high gradients. jonas needs steepness
>>156897303Jonas needs multiple climbs not one hard one. So like 3 proper climbs before doing Loze that will do the job.
>>156897384that's the old meta. pogi has fixed his fueling so it's no longer viable to wear him out with watts
>>156897426https://youtu.be/JbDLVTMr0V4?t=85this one
oh well
Since both Remco and Jonas claim tomorrow's climb suits them better. Are we gonna see Pog being dropped by these 2 absolute madmen?
classic Remco
another weird stat
>The harder it is, the easier it isSometimes we could all apply some Jonas logic to life's problems.
Weird seeing you guys twist his words thinking he wants harder climbs If a climb has a short steep increase Pog will attack and Jonas cant follow its not about how hard but how long and steady it is
Did vingegaard switch teams? Why was he riding for UAE today?
I strongly believe Jonas will lose 2nd place to someone
>>156898331as they say, if you can't beat them, join them
>>156896974I just wish it clogs up and stops their heart more often
>>156896702Just ignore the dude that gets the majority of camera time, wins the exciting stages, controls the race to his whim, wins the classics, and finishes the season winning the most exciting races. All in a boring predictable fashion. Not to mention he's constantly spoken about on the live streams and interviews. Just ignore him bro. Fucking belgians jesus.
>>156898673You are witnessing greatness. Possibly the greatest of all time. I can find peace in that.
>>156898777The greatest sporting fraud of all time. Puts Lance to shame.
Chat is this true?
Lance did enormous amount of charity work. Don't see that anymore. For everything he's been accused of he eclipses the modern peloton in terms of positive impacts in the world and on the sport.
>>156898813They're all frauds, every single one. If there was no pogi we would be complaining about the dominance of Jonas for the past 5 years (until this tdf where he looks weak).It's always something.I enjoy this era the most since I started watching cycling mid 90s, even with the pog dominance they ride much more agressive and with balls than in the past. Especially the classics.I'm enjoying this era to the fullest
>>156898877Do you also watch marvel films and support barcalona by chance? And you own a iphone? Should be illegal to like this era of cycling. Once joodas and pogacar retire I think the racing will be terrific.
>>156898877This pretty much. There's always something to nag about>Indurain too dominant>Lance too dominant>Contator too dominant>Jobber era>Ineos merda>Jumbo too dominant>Pogi too dominantSeen this in other sports, too. If there is a dominator, everybody cries that it's too predictable, and if not, they claim that everyone's trash and even mediocre athletes can win.
So what does Pogacar need to obtain undisputed GOAT status?>at least one more WC>the most TdF stage wins>seven TdFs in total>at least one Vuelta>at least one more Giro>at least one Paris-Roubaix and at least seven more monuments in totalAnything else? It's actually quite a long list, before thinking about it, I thought it was just around the corner
>>156898865>Lance did enormous amount of charity workAlways wondered how that worked in his mind. Must have been some sort of karma balancing attempt. Anyway, Lance on a bike was kino, couldn't even hate him. Still remember how he waited when Ulle crashed, while Beloki (think it was Beloki, not 100% sure) tried to attack.
>>156899048He already is. Merckx raced nobodys and got caught doping. Pogi didnt even get caught yet so he still could be natty
>>156899048hour record that lasts decade+
>>156897691I don't think this is true
>>156899139Sketchiest team manager in the sport whhad multiple top riders pop but suddenly stumbles upon the greatest of all time after getting big bucks from arab sponsors? Sure he might be clean.
>>156899048At least as many Grand Tours as Merckx. Two more Tour de France wins than him would be nice, but he also needs 3 Giros and 2 Vueltas then or something. If he has more Tour de France wins, more total Grand Tour wins, more monuments (as well as the entire set), and more WCs, it's over
>>156899406Monuments should not be an issue. He can just farm lbl and lombardia for 3 more years and he's basically there.
>>156899093I think he genuinely gave a fuck. I haven't had cancer so I can't speak on that, but I'd imagine it's terrifying watching your body deteriorate so fast. You don't put time and effort into something like that if you don't care. poogacar selling his grotty used chamois to fund his 'charity' which helps >kids. He doesn't even have kids himself. So blatantly a PR scheme. Pick a cause, we'll set up a charity for a few hundred grand and boom, you're now a fully fledged alturist. Might even benefit a few kids along the way. Livstrong had a far more significant presence and will have a much bigger legacy. That's the difference between a genuine act of charity and a PR project.
>>156898976No I don't watch superhero movies and I dont watch footy, don't own an iphone. I agree they should all be illegal, but not cyclismo
Marlen REUSSER.>>156899048I don't think anyone seriously thinks that Merckx, Pelé, etc. are the greatest of all time; Pog is clearly the greatest. The quality in almost all sports 50+ years ago was so poor
>>156899203Its semi true. The mechanics of a bike is not completely understood, like they are for a car where all the behaviors of a car driving can be modeled.
>>156899550I absolutely despise comparisons between different eras.You can only beat the people racing against you and all that.
>>156899785Likewise. It's the shittiest patter of old bores at the pub
>watch tour de france every year casually>pogacar has won this one solely by wining the mountain stageshow many more years will the domination continue
>>1568999252 more weeks
>>156899139>so he still could be nattysweet summer child
>>156899603UAE have solved this. That's their advantage.
>>156900045>Just pedal harderIs this really the breakthrough that causes seething all around the world
Watch footy or rewatch P-R? Though choice
>>156900140No one cares about third place
>>156900120Imagine the seething when Pog attacks and you want to just pedal harder but you simply can't. This is why Remco is always angry.
>>156900175Hmmm it's probably like a Zwift race when there's one dude clearly smurfing who just rides away and there's nothing you can do but fight for lower positions. Not much anger, just a sense of inevitably
>>156900237*Inevitability
>>156900169Tell that to ineos pulling to protect Bernal's 10th place
>>156900175I have this problem with life in general.
>wheelsuck>lose>lead and try to grind him out>losei mean what can you even do then
>>156900634Me too. Actually we have it much harder than them. When they fail, its like "damn you're right behind the GOAT". When we fail its "Why havnt you been outside for months bert?".
>>156900776What do you mean by months? Don't you mean years?
>>156900634You are constantly getting attacked by Slovenians?
This movie is so funny and sexy. Pauline having to wear a bikini 2 sizes too small.
>>156900763What they did last year is actually the gigabrain plan. They mentally and physically broke him so much that he wanted to quit the race and was losing to Arseman and Wout. But Jonas was not fit enough to do anything. Then this year Jonas and the team are even weaker. n-next year guys..
>>1569001403rd is just the cuck game. No one should watch it.
>>156901092Do you say this because you're scared of getting 4th and be a laughing stock?
Jonas to Uno-X (or UAE).But seriously the Visma team is beyond pathetic. Something has gone wrong in their preparation.
>>156901272I don't believe that. They simply aren't the high budget team anymore. They're falling behind in innovation and their team is basically still what they had 5 years ago, there's no new blood. Kuss is still pulling like he pulled Roglic (may he have a nice retirement)
>>156901272kussen was good today, did a deathpull and then still managed to reel in some attackers
>>156901205You are a laughing stock if you take this game seriously. Neither team wants to play this game.
>>156901272
>>156901394>>156901427Kuss waking up for 20min after 3 years in stasis is not something to celebrate.
>>156901430Ofc they do. Maybe not for glory but surely for the extra money they'll get out of the pockets of retards
>>156901427Kuss literally lost time to Carapaz who spent the day in the break and was supposed to launch an "explosive attack" from Jonas. I love Sebb Goose as much as the next burger but he's not an elite mountain domestique anymore. Visma needs some new blood. I'm not sure what to think about Jorgenshit. Yeah he's sick, but he's had a pretty anonymous season otherwise
>>156901272>better stronger faster 3rd week !Just believe it motherfucker!
>>156901573>"I have a duty for this game. It is not a friendly. It is a third-place playoff. The players, staff, and I have the duty to reach this last objective. It is less important than the final. England does not want to play this game, and neither do we. But here we are," Deschamps saidIt's a joke of a game. The players want to go on holiday
>>156901272They never properly replaced Zeeman.
>>156900763Its all 8Miles rap battles as Pog is Slim Shady now >You go first>You lose >You let Eminem go first>You lose
>>156901839Why do they even play this game. I can't think of other sports leagues that do this
>>156901839They don't deserve a holiday with the money they're making. First thing after this game they should start training again for the next
>>156902130Hmmmm, goood question.To be able to give a bronze medal?Maybe to give the fans something extra?So they can stay an extra day away from their annoying wives?hmmm.Or is it maybe because infantino needs more money? Could it? Naaah can't be
visma have gone downhill since Jumbo left. coincidence? I think not. Jumbo were the secret all along.
>>156901205Apparently they scored, still don't give a fuck. Pointless game.
>>156902710Is there anything you enjoy
>>156901839Tuchel put of a bunch of shitters and even replaced Pickford. Should have just cancelled the game.
>>156902130tradition I suppose. It would have meant more 80 years ago when the teams were all amateurs and travelling to tournaments was an arduous journey. they scrapped it in the euros decades ago
>>156902855DCS flight sim and I went to an airforce museum across the country yesterday, that was absolutely brilliant. Mostly history and military history. Modern era everything is gay as fuck. Bring back concords. cringeshaart and poogacar retiring will be great though, GC will be brilliant.
Joodas to uno x would be kino but he's looking to retire ASAP so he'll probably squirrel off. If he had any self respect he'd retire after this tour. I don't think there's anything left for him. Riders are already nipping at his ankles. He doesn't enjoy it anymore, he's made that clear. The same spiel after every stage is shameless and humiliating. He should have another few kids and retire from the public eye off the back of a good season.
>>156904198He still wins every stage race or GT with ease when Pogi isn't there. Plenty of races to farm
>>156904347Imagine if he loses the giro to Lipowitz or Ayuso. He can't let it get to that stage. Go out holding the cards.
4-0 england at half time. in case you thought this was a serious game
>>156907467Shameful for England to actually net the goals. Smash it over the bar in a comical manner every time. Just grim really.
>>156902097https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9-hxfcklGsNow, everybody from the U E APut your motherfuckin' hands up and follow me!Everybody from the U E APut your motherfuckin' hands up! Look, lookNow, while he stands toughNotice that this fish did not have his hands upThis Jumbo Visma's got you gassed upNow, who's afraid of the Big Bad Pog?One, two, three, and to the TourOne Win, two Wins, three Wins, fourFour Wins, three Wins, two Wins, oneYou're Win, We Wins, more wins? NoneThis guy ain't no motherfuckin' GCI know everything he's 'bout to race against meI am white, I am a fucking bumI do live in Monaco with my momMy boy Voigt is on Euro SportsI do got a dumb friend named Del ToroWho shoots his own legs for a stage winI did get jumped by all six of you chumpsAnd some black dude did fuck my girlI'm still standin' here screaming, "Fuck this Fish Squirl!"Don't ever try to dope test me, dudeYou don't know what the fuck I've been throughBut I know something about youYou worked at Chrisfish, that's a fish factoryWhat's the matter, dawg? You go fast?This guy's a gangster? His real name's Jonas!
>>156908335shit i meant U A E, i fucked up
>>156901272Never been the same since the mighty JUMBO left
10 stage wins from Cav now9 after tomorrow
